UPDATE: 1:50PM – The PBS News Hour Ombudsman has posted his essay, you can read it here.
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For the record, just now, I’ve called PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler to give him an opportunity to ask me questions before he publishes his article. I got voice mail, so we’ll see if he’s interested in hearing anything about my side before condemning me. I predict he will not return my call, but if he does I’ll report it here. UPDATE 11:50AM: Mr. Getler HAS returned my call and we had a pleasant conversation.
Via Tom Nelson:
PBS Ombud: NewsHour Climate Change Report Worth Criticizing | Blog | Media Matters for America
A PBS NewsHour global warming report that allowed a climate change contrarian to “counterbalance” mainstream scientific opinion is worth criticizing, according to PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler, who said he received hundreds of emails and calls about the program.
Getler said he is penning a column on the issue that is likely to be posted late today or Monday, and hinted it will be critical.
“There’s just a lot of…hundreds of emails about it,” Getler said when asked why he is writing about the issue. “Commentary about it all over and it’s interesting.”
Getler declined to offer specific views on the NewsHour report, which aired last Monday. But when asked if he has found elements to criticize, he said: “Oh yeah, of course there’s material to be critical about.”
When Media Matters first called this morning, Getler said he had been contacted by many viewers since Monday about the issue: “It’s what everyone’s calling about, the global warming thing.”
Former CNN science reporter Miles Obrien:
PBS NewsHour Science Reporter Miles O’Brien: Climate Denier Segment A ‘Horrible, Horrible Thing’ | ThinkProgress
The general public has spoken out as well, with over 15,000 [aren’t there a lot more than 15,000 people in the general public?] people signing a Forecast the Facts petition to PBS ombudsman Michael Getler demanding an investigation of how this violation of PBS journalistic standards made it to broadcast.
And here’s some thinly veiled hate:
Warmist Doug Craig: You know what Anthony Watts is like? A dark figure with no wood who tears your home down every night
Imagine you are building a house and at night while you are sleeping someone destroys all your work. Each day you return to build your home and each night, dark figures tear it down. Anthony Watts and others like him have nothing to build. They have no scientific “wood.” They create nothing while they destroy everything.
…Like the cancer victim who refuses treatment because they deny they are sick, Watts is that voice of denial that prevents us from decisive action on behalf of our children and their future. The lie lives. The saboteurs are free and in control of this false debate.
For the record, this is what they are upset about:
Here’s the story/transcript from Spencer Michels, along with video that follows. I have not seen the piece that will be airing nationally yet, and I don’t know how much of me they use, but this just appeared on the PBS website.
One note: when they talk about “heat sync” they really meant to say heat sink. – Anthony
Conversation with global warming skeptic Anthony Watts – Climate Change Skeptic Says Global Warming Crowd Oversells Its Message
From PBS:
It was about 105 degrees in Chico, Calif., about three hours north of Sacramento, when we arrived at the offices of one of the nation’s most read climate skeptics. Actually, Anthony Watts calls himself a pragmatic skeptic when it comes to global warming. Watts is a former television meteorologist, who has been studying climate change for years. He doesn’t claim to be a scientist; he attended Purdue. He’s the author of a blog, Watts Up with That?, which he calls the world’s most viewed site on global warming. For a story I was working on for the PBS NewsHour, Watts was recommended by the Heartland Institute, a conservative, Chicago-based non-profit that is one of the leading groups that doubt that climate change — if it exists — is attributable to human activities.
Watts doesn’t come across as a true believer or a fanatic. For one thing, he has built a business that caters to television stations and individuals who want accurate weather information and need displays to show their viewers. He has developed an array of high tech devices to disseminate weather data and put it on screens. He has several TV stations around the country as clients.
But Watts’ reputation doesn’t come from his business — IntelliWeather — but rather from his outspoken views on climate change. He says he’s been gathering data for years, and he’s analyzed it along with some academics. He used to think somewhat along the same lines as Richard Muller, the University of California physicist who recently declared he was no longer a skeptic on climate change. Muller had analyzed two centuries worth of temperature data and decided his former skepticism was misplaced: yes, the earth has been warming, and the reason is that humans are producing carbon dioxide that is hastening the warming the planet.
Watts doesn’t buy Muller’s analysis, since, he believes, it is based on faulty data. The big problem, as Watts sees it, is that the stations where temperatures are gathered are too close to urban developments where heat is soaked up and distorts the readings. So it looks like the earth is warming though it may not be, he says.
Read a transcript below.
SPENCER MICHELS: So let’s start out with the basic idea that there’s this debate in this country over global warming. There’s some people who call it a complete hoax and there are some people who completely embrace it and so forth. Where do you stand in that spectrum?
ANTHONY WATTS: Well, I at one time was very much embracing the whole concept that we had a real problem, we had to do something about it. Back in 1988 James Hanson actually was the impetus for that for me in his presentation before Congress. But as I learned more and more about the issue, I discovered that maybe it’s not as bad as it’s made out to be. Some of it is hype, but there’s also some data that has not been explored and there’s been some investigations that need to be done that haven’t been done. And so now I’m in the camp of we have some global warming. No doubt about it, but it may not be as bad as we originally thought because there are other contributing factors.
SPENCER MICHELS: What’s the thing that bothers you the most about people who say there’s lots of global warming?
ANTHONY WATTS: They want to change policy. They want to apply taxes and these kinds of things may not be the actual solution for making a change to our society.
SPENCER MICHELS: What are you saying? That they’re biased essentially or motivated by something else? What?
ANTHONY WATTS: [T]here’s a term that was used to describe this. It’s called noble cause corruption. And actually I was a victim of that at one time, where you’re so fervent you’re in your belief that you have to do something. You’re saving the planet, you’re making a difference, you’re making things better that you’re so focused on this goal of fixing it or changing it that you kind of forget to look along the path to make sure that you haven’t missed some things.
I started looking into the idea that weather stations have been slowly encroached upon by urbanization and sighting issues over the last century. Meaning that our urbanization affected the temperature. And this was something that was very clear if you looked at the temperature records. But what wasn’t clear is how it affected the trend of temperatures. And so that’s been something that I’ve been investigating. Anyone who’s ever stood next to a building in the summertime at night, a brick building that’s been out in the summer sun, you stand next to it at night you can feel the heat radiating off of it. That’s a heat sync effect. And over the last 100 years our country, in fact the world, has changed. We’ve gone from having mostly a rural agrarian society to one that is more urban and city based and as a result the infrastructure has increased. We’ve got more freeways, you know more airports, we’ve got more buildings. Got more streets, all these things. Those are all heat syncs. During the day, solar insulation hits these objects and these surfaces and it stores heat in these objects. At night it releases that heat. Now if you are measuring temperature in a city that went from having uh maybe 10% of um, non-permeable surface to you know maybe 90% over 100 years, that’s a heat sync effect and that should show up in the record. The problem is, is that it’s been such a slow subtle change over the last 100 years. It’s not easy to detect and that’s been the challenge and that’s what I’ve been working on.
SPENCER MICHELS: Well in a way you’re saying that the records aren’t accurate, the data isn’t accurate.
ANTHONY WATTS: I’m saying that the data might be biased by these influences to a percentage. Yes, we have some global warming, it’s clear the temperature has gone up in the last 100 years. But what percentage of that is from carbon dioxide? And what percentage of that is from changes in the local and measurement environment?
SPENCER MICHELS: I want to go back to what we were talking about a little bit earlier, the idea that there is, there are people who are sort of invested in promoting the fact that there is global warming. There’s money involved and grants. Is that what you were saying? Maybe explain that.
ANTHONY WATTS: Well global warming had become essentially a business in its own right. There are NGOs, there are organizations, there are whole divisions of universities that have set up to study this, this factor, and so there’s lots of money involved and then so I think that there’s a tendency to want to keep that going and not really look at what might be different.
SPENCER MICHELS: Now Dr. Muller at the University of California Berkeley had similar concerns. Went back and looked at the data, took much more data than anybody else had, and concluded, well maybe there was some problems, but basically the conclusions were right. There is global warming and it comes from carbon dioxide which is meant, made by man. Do you buy that?
ANTHONY WATTS: Unfortunately he has not succeeded in terms of how science views, you know, a successful inquiry. His papers have not passed peer review. They had some problems. Some of the problems I identified, others have identified problems as well, for example, he goes much further back, back to about 1750 in terms of temperature. Well from my own studies, I know that temperature really wasn’t validated and homogenized where everything’s measured the same way until the weather bureau came into being about in 1890. Prior to that thermometers were hung in and exposed to the atmosphere all kinds of different ways. Some were hung under the shade of trees, some were on the north side of houses, some were out in the open in the sun, and so the temperature fluctuations that we got from those readings prior to 1890 was quite broad and I don’t believe that provided representative signal because the exposure’s all wrong. And Dr. Muller did not take any of that into account.
SPENCER MICHELS: His conclusion though is that basically global warming exists and that the scientists, no matter what the problems were, were pretty much right on.
ANTHONY WATTS: I agree with him that global warming exists. However, the ability to attribute the percentage of global warming to CO2 versus other man-made influences is still an open question.
SPENCER MICHELS: I want to ask you a little bit about attitudes towards this among the public. We talked to a public opinion specialist at Stanford who says there’s been 80 percent belief in global warming and man-made global warming consistently over at least the last 15 years in this country. Do you buy his theory?
ANTHONY WATTS: Well I look at a number of opinion polls. You’ll find a lot of them on my blog and that we’ve covered. And depending on how you ask the question we’ll sometimes give you a different answer. My view is, is that the view of global warming peaked about at the time that Al Gore came out with his movie, An Inconvenient Truth. But ever since then other factors have kicked in. Climate Gate for example. And it has become less of an issue, in fact you hardly see politicians talking about it anymore, or pushing it as an issue. What’s been happening now it’s just become a regulation issue. It’s gotten away from the political arena and into the bureaucratic regulation arena. And so people I believe based on the polls I’ve seen, aren’t quite as believing as they used to be. And I think the trend is downward.
SPENCER MICHELS: What do you think is the upshot of your attitude toward this? Should the Congress, should the American public say, you know nothing’s been proven yet. We should wait. Or should we go ahead with trying to solve what many people consider a really scary problem?
ANTHONY WATTS: Hmm…You mentioned a really scary problem and I think that’s part of the issues. Some people don’t respond well to scare tactics and there have been some scare tactics used by some of the proponents on the other side of the issue. And that’s where the overselling of it comes in. But this is a slow problem and it requires a slow solution I believe. For example, our infrastructure for electricity and so forth and highways didn’t happen in 5 years or 10 years. It happened over a century. We can’t just rip all that up or change it in the space off five, 10 or 15 years because it’ll be catastrophic to our economy. We need a slow change solution, one that is a solution that changes over time at about the same rate as climate change. More efficient technologies, new technologies, the use of more nuclear for example. There’s a nuclear type of a reactor that’s more safe called a, a liquid thorium reactor that China is jumping on right now. And we should be looking into things like that.
SPENCER MICHELS: Has this issue, I know you think it’s been oversold and scare tactics have been used. Do you think it’s become too politicized?
ANTHONY WATTS: Oh, it’s definitely become too politicized. In fact, some of the scientists who are the leaders in the issue have become for lack of a better word, political tools on the issue.
SPENCER MICHELS: One final question, do you consider yourself a skeptic when it comes to global warming?
ANTHONY WATTS: I would call myself a pragmatic skeptic. Yes, we need to make some changes on our energy technology but more efficient technology’s a good thing. For example, I have solar power on my own, you know, I have done energy reductions in my office and in my home to make things more efficient. So I think those are good things. Those are good messages that we should be embracing. But at the same time I think that some of the issues have been oversold, may have been oversold, because they allow for more regulation to take place. And so the people that like more regulation use global warming as a tool, as a means to an end. And so as a result, we might be getting more regulation and more taxes that really aren’t rooted in science, but more in politics.
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This article appears online here
Listen everyone,
As a journalist, I can tell you straight out that one of the reasons why they are attacking Anthony Watts is because he MADE the critical points that needed to be made on the NewsHour Interview on climate change. He was seen QUESTIONING – in public, in an interview on PBS.
That is why the AGW scaremongers are so upset demanding retractions, petitions, etc., etc., as they ‘complain’ to a PBS Ombudsman.
And I say, LET them be upset. They deserve it after all the BS they’ve put so many people through over the years. It’s PAYBACK TIME. I’m loving it all. Every second of it.
The more they scream and cry like the spoiled children they are, the BETTER, as it brings more coverage to the lie of man-made global warming that was never true from the very start.
What they did NOT want, those who think that they can silence any contrarian view, is ANY comment from Anthony at all, since it is obvious that ‘man-made global warming’ is OFF the policy tables of national governments worldwide.
So, what is really happening is a reactionary response attacking Anthony Watts, whom, let’s remember is METEOROLOGIST, and should know a little something about the climate and weather, don’t you think?
Whether he is considered a ‘scientist’ is simply pure bunk from those who claim that they can forecast anything akin to a hot bowl of soup on a cold winter’s day.
What they are afraid of is that Anthony Watts and those like him who strongly question ‘man-made global warming,’ that is human-caused climate change – will gain MORE coverage in the mainstream media – and THAT is what is happening here.
Of course Anthony will get more interviews and that’s a GOOD thing since it is quite obvious that the media is now more seriously questioning the fallacy of man-made global warming more than they ever did over the past 25 years – which isn’t saying much since the mainstream media has done such a piss poor job of it to say the least.
And, there has been NO violation of journalistic standards.
Every journalist knows to get as many sides of any subject as is possible. It is PART AND PARCEL of the principles of journalism to include ANY and all views as equally as possible and to let the reader, or listener decide for themselves what to think.
The media is not in the business of telling people what to think. But you wouldn’t believe that that has been the case with ‘man-made global warming.’
Those who go about raising silly petitions to PBS ombudsman Michael Getler demanding an investigation of how this ‘violation of PBS journalistic standards made it to broadcast’ obviously have NOT a clue as to what journalistic standards are.
There isn’t anything in the code of conduct and principles of journalism that says a reporter – ANY REPORTER – cannot interview anyone – no matter what their views may or may not be.
It is standard to interview whomever you want and let the chips fall where they may. I’ve done it thousands of times as a reporter myself.
The whole point of journalism is to enlighten, to explore and to expand on ANY TOPIC – no matter where it may take you. That’s what freedom of thought and expression is all about and I am all for it. Anyone who is not for this is an ideologue and a fascist.
I’m having a grand time watching all of this. I think it’s great. More people have been coming to Anthony Watts site to see for themselves and are learning the TRUTH about the FACTS behind the Earth’s climate. I think it’s a wonderful thing.
So let them scream, jump wildly up and down, pull out their hair, rant on, attack personally, sign petitions and on and on like the spoiled ignorant babies they are, because all that does is bring even MORE ATTENTION to what Anthony Watts has been saying and writing about for years – that man-made global warming does not exist. It can’t because the laws of physics say so.
We didn’t write those laws of physics that govern our planet’s climate and weather.
We did not create the first and second laws of thermodynamics that say man-made global warming is impossible and cannot exist on Earth.
We just work here. Let the Good Times Roll. Good Work Anthony. Party On Man!
[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvnOOP_bmYs?rel=0&w=560&h=315%5D
This is a news item on PBS about the oil, coal and gas industries in the US. It is a fair debate between differing points of view.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/science/july-dec12/energy_08-10.html
Does Forecast The Facts want to censor speakers from the coal, oil and gas industries? Perhaps FTF should petition PBS to allow them to vet all their content before it is allowed to air?
In my best Johnny Cochran voice:
If the data don’t fit,
You must admit:
Your models are s***!
Put that in your Ombudsmanbag and smoke it.
There’s a saying that if you’re getting a lot of flack, you’re probably over the target. You’re obviously over the target, Anthony.
But really, if the term “Catastrophic” were removed from CAGW, the vast majority of funding for this “science” would see drastic cuts. Yet nobody has a clue what that tipping point is, when it will occur, or can offer any proof. It’s time somebody owned up and quit serving up platitudes and assertions.
Quit hiding behind this lame “Catastrophic” term, Warmistas–you’re wasting a lot of time and money with your foolishness.
I am reminded of the First Gulf War in 1991 during which the loudest the Saddam government screamed was when we hit something particularly valuable – including but not limited to the infamous Baby Milk Factory. Their loudest screams took place when someone tossed a couple bunker busters thru the roof of a building used to house Baath Party families.
The volume and vehemence we are getting out of the warmists against PBS on this tells me that you have hit and seriously damaged something very close to their hearts and minds Nicely played. Cheers –
There most certainly are things in the PBS report that the Ombudsman can criticize.
For instance, the assertion that Richard Muller ever was a legitimate skeptic cannot stand up to even 10 minutes of internet research. Ok, maybe he was a skeptic for an hour. But 20 years ago he was a believer on a CO2 tipping point. 10 years ago, too. Today he believes that 100% of all warming is CO2 driven. His skepticism has been lacking throughout his career.
So much emphasis was given to Muller’s self-professed conversion. Yet nary a word of Anthony Watts own conversion to pragmatic skepticism after Anthony did the very scientific action to evaluate the quality of the temperature measurements by physically visiting the thermometers. This editorial decision is also something the Ombudsman should criticize.
Bias is far more about what is not said than what is.
Fascinating. Notice how the PBS crowd claims to be sophisticated, educated, tolerant, inclusive and dedicated to fairness, openness, freedom of expression and discussion (especially discussions of the round-table type). And yet as soon as their particular ox is gored, they react in the most vile and objectionable manner possible.
Some day a team of psychologists, operating at pay-scales well above mine, will analyze this event and probably come up with a unique chapter in the book of the human psyche.
(shaking my head)
Here is who we are dealing with.
How is it possible that so much misinformation and out and out fabrications and speculation can be packed into one paragraph.
“climate is steadily warming”
It has been doing that since the mid 19th century as we came out of LIA.
“glaciers are melting and seas are rising”
It’s been doing that for well over 10,000 years.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/searise-borth-post.jpg
“coasts are flooding”
3mm per year???? Head for the hills!!!!
“millions of people will need to migrate away from the coasts”
Bangladesh has gained land mass over 30 years. Most coral island atolls have stayed steady or grown.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5g-8geW6xzl7Ik-UWrFBtq66ybN4A
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921818110001013
“Droughts and floods will both increase”
Future prediction, no evidence of a current worsening trend.
“More heat waves, more extreme weather,”
Oh boy!
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/05/27/another-paper-shows-that-severe-weatherextreme-weather-has-no-trend-related-to-global-warming/
“more plant and animal extinctions”
Yeah, right.
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/330/6006/957.short
Since climate science did not work, they try social science; once it fails, they’ll try camps.
What tools would that be that Anthony Watts uses to tear down their work? Reason, logic, facts, and truth are the tools of that particular trade.
“PBS journalistic standards ”
Haha, hahaha, hahahaha, BWAHAHAHA.
I feel better. Hang in there Mr. Watts…
What the heck is a “climate denier”? Even “climate change denier” makes no sense; few of us doubt that climate changes. The doubt, the skepticism resides in the cause of the changes, which remains obscure.
If the science was airtight, the reaction by the warmists would be “oh yea?. Who cares what he thinks.” On the other hand if their views are based on a belief system, as in a religion, then they lash out at those who threaten their belief system. I see a lot of parallels with the viewers reaction to Anthony and the reaction by others in the world whose belief systems are being threatened.
Wow, I thought your responses to the questions were mild and if anything slightly nervous in the beginning. Could be wrong on that.
You hardly staked out an extreme position … you began by saying there has been some warming, in fact, and went on to talk about surface-temperature measurement problems.
This has provoked such fear/hatred?
How bizarre — and pathetic.
The PBS Ombudsman’s approach:
http://www.pbs.org/ombudsman/mission.html
The PBS Editorial Standards:
http://www.pbs.org/about/media/about/cms_page_media/35/PBS%20Editorial%20Standards%20and%20Policies.pdf
The ombudsman must therefore find that the political pressure to silence CAGW skeptics goes against stated PBS standards.
I really like Your ‘PBS-show’ and (above all) the ‘reactions’ from the drowning side which have deFacto prooved (w/o Lew-‘science’) how immensively right on track You are, Sir!
I’m getting a lot of ads from TED – quite a number of Swedish ‘scientists’ have gathered a ‘floor’ there, i.e. the doctor with his graphs…, and it would be of great interest if there’s a chance for You to appear/speak on a ‘TED’-session – which, hopefully, could/would be aired here in Sweden… We kind of have an acute lack of balanced reporting in the SVT (=Swedish Television), SR (Sveriges Radio, Swedish Radio) as well as in the ‘common’ other media, especially the print.
(No bit away from what’s going on in Australia at present).
Brgds from Sweden
//TJ
Feel the hate. The alarmist crowd is consumed with hatred. But what if someone gets into power who feels the same way about them?
Theodore White says:
September 21, 2012 at 1:05 pm
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I think you got it covered in your own words. Call it like it is and let the crybabies cry.
LarryS says:
September 21, 2012 at 11:42 am
Not that I want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but don’t you think its plausible that PBS *knew* that Anthony’s inclusion in the special would make the most fervent warmists ‘freak out’, and will now use this as a way to publicly tar and feather Anthony within the PBS/Warmist group sphere? To me, the reactions are a bit over the top, and seem heavy handed. If PBS winds up publishing some kind of rebuttal which calls their inclusion of Anthony a “mistake”, then it will just confirm the fact that PBS ultimately will have no intention of fairly reporting this topic.
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The problem is you can play back Anthony’s responses over and over and they still make sense. I think this is the problem. Denialist anti-science is supposed to be easy to deconstruct. For PBS to retract or publicly regret their earlier decision would only make them look foolish. I think the denialist argument was supposed to sound stupid on television and that didn’t happen.
This is what happens when a religion–such as the cult of catastrophic anthropogenic global warming–believes it is under attack. It lashes out.
“The general public has spoken out as well, with over 15,000 [aren’t there a lot more than 15,000 people in the general public?] people signing a Forecast the Facts petition to PBS ombudsman Michael Getler demanding an investigation of how this violation of PBS journalistic standards made it to broadcast.”
A lot more than 15,000 in the general public? Heck! there are w-a-a-a-a-y more than 15,000 people who pay a dollar to have someone guess their age or weight at the carnival. I’m surprised only 15,000 of them wrote in to PBS.
Word is getting out. Anthony made the Coyote blog:
http://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2012/09/eeek-pbs-showed-a-skeptic.html
All the storm about this show is likely to draw even more media attention to the subject. The media feeds on controversy.
Anthony may get asked to speak again on another show.
Skeptics could not have hoped for a better reaction from fanatic eco-zealots.
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Phone Ringing: Ring Ring Ring……”Anthony. There a guy on the phone called Jay Leno. He says he wants to speak to you?”
Later that evening, Jay Leno says, “So Anthony, you seem to have garnered a lot of attention lately. Tell me, if you meet a women, do you ever start talking about global warming?”
Anthony, “Sure I do. You know it’s actually a real icebreaker.”
….roars of laughter….
Jay continues, “But seriously, yesterday, a group of scientists warned that because of global warming, sea levels will rise so much that parts of New Jersey will be under water.”
Anthony, “yeah and the bad news is that this is all just hype”
Jay, “What do you mean bad news?”
Anthony, “Well unfortunately parts of New Jersey won’t be under water!”
….roars of laughter…..
Theodore White says:
September 21, 2012 at 1:05 pm
Excellent post, Mr. White; you make many good points, but I must contest this critical one:
I suggest: Ideally, telling people what to think should not be the media’s business. However, whether or not that is the MSM’s primary mission remains to be determined.
Ah, yes. Tolerance and open-mindedness: the hallmark of Leftists and Cultists.
Tell me again why NPR merits any kind of public funding.