Bizarre reactions to my PBS interview continue – PBS Ombudsman to publish criticism of my inclusion into PBS Newshour

UPDATE: 1:50PM – The PBS News Hour Ombudsman has posted his essay, you can read it here.

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For the record, just now, I’ve called PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler to give him an opportunity to ask me questions before he publishes his article. I got voice mail, so we’ll see if he’s interested in hearing anything about my side before condemning me. I predict he will not return my call, but if he does I’ll report it here. UPDATE 11:50AM: Mr. Getler HAS returned my call and we had a pleasant conversation.

Via Tom Nelson:

PBS Ombud: NewsHour Climate Change Report Worth Criticizing | Blog | Media Matters for America 

A PBS NewsHour global warming report that allowed a climate change contrarian to “counterbalance” mainstream scientific opinion is worth criticizing, according to PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler, who said he received hundreds of emails and calls about the program.

Getler said he is penning a column on the issue that is likely to be posted late today or Monday, and hinted it will be critical.

“There’s just a lot of…hundreds of emails about it,” Getler said when asked why he is writing about the issue. “Commentary about it all over and it’s interesting.”

Getler declined to offer specific views on the NewsHour report, which aired last Monday. But when asked if he has found elements to criticize, he said: “Oh yeah, of course there’s material to be critical about.”

When Media Matters first called this morning, Getler said he had been contacted by many viewers since Monday about the issue: “It’s what everyone’s calling about, the global warming thing.”

Former CNN science reporter Miles Obrien:

PBS NewsHour Science Reporter Miles O’Brien: Climate Denier Segment A ‘Horrible, Horrible Thing’ | ThinkProgress

The general public has spoken out as well, with over 15,000 [aren’t there a lot more than 15,000 people in the general public?] people signing a Forecast the Facts petition to PBS ombudsman Michael Getler demanding an investigation of how this violation of PBS journalistic standards made it to broadcast.

And here’s some thinly veiled hate:

Warmist Doug Craig: You know what Anthony Watts is like? A dark figure with no wood who tears your home down every night

Redding.com Blogs: Doug Craig’s blog

Imagine you are building a house and at night while you are sleeping someone destroys all your work. Each day you return to build your home and each night, dark figures tear it down. Anthony Watts and others like him have nothing to build. They have no scientific “wood.” They create nothing while they destroy everything.

…Like the cancer victim who refuses treatment because they deny they are sick, Watts is that voice of denial that prevents us from decisive action on behalf of our children and their future. The lie lives. The saboteurs are free and in control of this false debate.

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For the record, this is what they are upset about:

Here’s the story/transcript from Spencer Michels, along with video that follows. I have not seen the piece that will be airing nationally yet, and I don’t know how much of me they use, but this just appeared on the PBS website.

One note: when they talk about “heat sync” they really meant to say heat sink. – Anthony

Conversation with global warming skeptic Anthony Watts  – Climate Change Skeptic Says Global Warming Crowd Oversells Its Message

From PBS:

It was about 105 degrees in Chico, Calif., about three hours north of Sacramento, when we arrived at the offices of one of the nation’s most read climate skeptics. Actually, Anthony Watts calls himself a pragmatic skeptic when it comes to global warming. Watts is a former television meteorologist, who has been studying climate change for years. He doesn’t claim to be a scientist; he attended Purdue. He’s the author of a blog, Watts Up with That?, which he calls the world’s most viewed site on global warming. For a story I was working on for the PBS NewsHour, Watts was recommended by the Heartland Institute, a conservative, Chicago-based non-profit that is one of the leading groups that doubt that climate change — if it exists — is attributable to human activities.

Watts doesn’t come across as a true believer or a fanatic. For one thing, he has built a business that caters to television stations and individuals who want accurate weather information and need displays to show their viewers. He has developed an array of high tech devices to disseminate weather data and put it on screens. He has several TV stations around the country as clients.

But Watts’ reputation doesn’t come from his business — IntelliWeather — but rather from his outspoken views on climate change. He says he’s been gathering data for years, and he’s analyzed it along with some academics. He used to think somewhat along the same lines as Richard Muller, the University of California physicist who recently declared he was no longer a skeptic on climate change. Muller had analyzed two centuries worth of temperature data and decided his former skepticism was misplaced: yes, the earth has been warming, and the reason is that humans are producing carbon dioxide that is hastening the warming the planet.

Watts doesn’t buy Muller’s analysis, since, he believes, it is based on faulty data. The big problem, as Watts sees it, is that the stations where temperatures are gathered are too close to urban developments where heat is soaked up and distorts the readings. So it looks like the earth is warming though it may not be, he says.

Read a transcript below.

SPENCER MICHELS: So let’s start out with the basic idea that there’s this debate in this country over global warming. There’s some people who call it a complete hoax and there are some people who completely embrace it and so forth. Where do you stand in that spectrum?

ANTHONY WATTS: Well, I at one time was very much embracing the whole concept that we had a real problem, we had to do something about it. Back in 1988 James Hanson actually was the impetus for that for me in his presentation before Congress. But as I learned more and more about the issue, I discovered that maybe it’s not as bad as it’s made out to be. Some of it is hype, but there’s also some data that has not been explored and there’s been some investigations that need to be done that haven’t been done. And so now I’m in the camp of we have some global warming. No doubt about it, but it may not be as bad as we originally thought because there are other contributing factors.

SPENCER MICHELS: What’s the thing that bothers you the most about people who say there’s lots of global warming?

ANTHONY WATTS: They want to change policy. They want to apply taxes and these kinds of things may not be the actual solution for making a change to our society.

SPENCER MICHELS: What are you saying? That they’re biased essentially or motivated by something else? What?

ANTHONY WATTS: [T]here’s a term that was used to describe this. It’s called noble cause corruption. And actually I was a victim of that at one time, where you’re so fervent you’re in your belief that you have to do something. You’re saving the planet, you’re making a difference, you’re making things better that you’re so focused on this goal of fixing it or changing it that you kind of forget to look along the path to make sure that you haven’t missed some things.

I started looking into the idea that weather stations have been slowly encroached upon by urbanization and sighting issues over the last century. Meaning that our urbanization affected the temperature. And this was something that was very clear if you looked at the temperature records. But what wasn’t clear is how it affected the trend of temperatures. And so that’s been something that I’ve been investigating. Anyone who’s ever stood next to a building in the summertime at night, a brick building that’s been out in the summer sun, you stand next to it at night you can feel the heat radiating off of it. That’s a heat sync effect. And over the last 100 years our country, in fact the world, has changed. We’ve gone from having mostly a rural agrarian society to one that is more urban and city based and as a result the infrastructure has increased. We’ve got more freeways, you know more airports, we’ve got more buildings. Got more streets, all these things. Those are all heat syncs. During the day, solar insulation hits these objects and these surfaces and it stores heat in these objects. At night it releases that heat. Now if you are measuring temperature in a city that went from having uh maybe 10% of um, non-permeable surface to you know maybe 90% over 100 years, that’s a heat sync effect and that should show up in the record. The problem is, is that it’s been such a slow subtle change over the last 100 years. It’s not easy to detect and that’s been the challenge and that’s what I’ve been working on.

SPENCER MICHELS: Well in a way you’re saying that the records aren’t accurate, the data isn’t accurate.

ANTHONY WATTS: I’m saying that the data might be biased by these influences to a percentage. Yes, we have some global warming, it’s clear the temperature has gone up in the last 100 years. But what percentage of that is from carbon dioxide? And what percentage of that is from changes in the local and measurement environment?

SPENCER MICHELS: I want to go back to what we were talking about a little bit earlier, the idea that there is, there are people who are sort of invested in promoting the fact that there is global warming. There’s money involved and grants. Is that what you were saying? Maybe explain that.

ANTHONY WATTS: Well global warming had become essentially a business in its own right. There are NGOs, there are organizations, there are whole divisions of universities that have set up to study this, this factor, and so there’s lots of money involved and then so I think that there’s a tendency to want to keep that going and not really look at what might be different.

SPENCER MICHELS: Now Dr. Muller at the University of California Berkeley had similar concerns. Went back and looked at the data, took much more data than anybody else had, and concluded, well maybe there was some problems, but basically the conclusions were right. There is global warming and it comes from carbon dioxide which is meant, made by man. Do you buy that?

ANTHONY WATTS: Unfortunately he has not succeeded in terms of how science views, you know, a successful inquiry. His papers have not passed peer review. They had some problems. Some of the problems I identified, others have identified problems as well, for example, he goes much further back, back to about 1750 in terms of temperature. Well from my own studies, I know that temperature really wasn’t validated and homogenized where everything’s measured the same way until the weather bureau came into being about in 1890. Prior to that thermometers were hung in and exposed to the atmosphere all kinds of different ways. Some were hung under the shade of trees, some were on the north side of houses, some were out in the open in the sun, and so the temperature fluctuations that we got from those readings prior to 1890 was quite broad and I don’t believe that provided representative signal because the exposure’s all wrong. And Dr. Muller did not take any of that into account.

SPENCER MICHELS: His conclusion though is that basically global warming exists and that the scientists, no matter what the problems were, were pretty much right on.

ANTHONY WATTS: I agree with him that global warming exists. However, the ability to attribute the percentage of global warming to CO2 versus other man-made influences is still an open question.

SPENCER MICHELS: I want to ask you a little bit about attitudes towards this among the public. We talked to a public opinion specialist at Stanford who says there’s been 80 percent belief in global warming and man-made global warming consistently over at least the last 15 years in this country. Do you buy his theory?

ANTHONY WATTS: Well I look at a number of opinion polls. You’ll find a lot of them on my blog and that we’ve covered. And depending on how you ask the question we’ll sometimes give you a different answer. My view is, is that the view of global warming peaked about at the time that Al Gore came out with his movie, An Inconvenient Truth. But ever since then other factors have kicked in. Climate Gate for example. And it has become less of an issue, in fact you hardly see politicians talking about it anymore, or pushing it as an issue. What’s been happening now it’s just become a regulation issue. It’s gotten away from the political arena and into the bureaucratic regulation arena. And so people I believe based on the polls I’ve seen, aren’t quite as believing as they used to be. And I think the trend is downward.

SPENCER MICHELS: What do you think is the upshot of your attitude toward this? Should the Congress, should the American public say, you know nothing’s been proven yet. We should wait. Or should we go ahead with trying to solve what many people consider a really scary problem?

ANTHONY WATTS: Hmm…You mentioned a really scary problem and I think that’s part of the issues. Some people don’t respond well to scare tactics and there have been some scare tactics used by some of the proponents on the other side of the issue. And that’s where the overselling of it comes in. But this is a slow problem and it requires a slow solution I believe. For example, our infrastructure for electricity and so forth and highways didn’t happen in 5 years or 10 years. It happened over a century. We can’t just rip all that up or change it in the space off five, 10 or 15 years because it’ll be catastrophic to our economy. We need a slow change solution, one that is a solution that changes over time at about the same rate as climate change. More efficient technologies, new technologies, the use of more nuclear for example. There’s a nuclear type of a reactor that’s more safe called a, a liquid thorium reactor that China is jumping on right now. And we should be looking into things like that.

SPENCER MICHELS: Has this issue, I know you think it’s been oversold and scare tactics have been used. Do you think it’s become too politicized?

ANTHONY WATTS: Oh, it’s definitely become too politicized. In fact, some of the scientists who are the leaders in the issue have become for lack of a better word, political tools on the issue.

SPENCER MICHELS: One final question, do you consider yourself a skeptic when it comes to global warming?

ANTHONY WATTS: I would call myself a pragmatic skeptic. Yes, we need to make some changes on our energy technology but more efficient technology’s a good thing. For example, I have solar power on my own, you know, I have done energy reductions in my office and in my home to make things more efficient. So I think those are good things. Those are good messages that we should be embracing. But at the same time I think that some of the issues have been oversold, may have been oversold, because they allow for more regulation to take place. And so the people that like more regulation use global warming as a tool, as a means to an end. And so as a result, we might be getting more regulation and more taxes that really aren’t rooted in science, but more in politics.

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Steve P
September 21, 2012 12:24 pm

The self-righteous green weenies don’t like to be told they really aren’t saving the planet by dismantling Western civilization, for that means they must abandon the (imaginary) moral high ground they thought they occupied, along with their (imagined) moral superiority.
The vitriol being hurled at Anthony will open many eyes, I think, and cause no few fence-sitters to re-evaluate the entire AGW conjecture, so it’s not all bad. You don’t get to be “The world’s most viewed site on global warming and climate change” or the Web’s Best Science Blog (2008) by mere chance, or by faulty science either, for that matter.
To be a valid theory, AGW must be falsifiable, and the Null Hypothesis (natural variation) must be overturned without resorting to special pleading.
It’s always worth mentioning that warmer is better for agriculture, and that CO2 is plant food. There is a reason greenhouse owners burn propane to elevate CO2 in their structures. That’s the real greenhouse effect.

David
September 21, 2012 12:25 pm

That would make for great television!

September 21, 2012 12:26 pm

I emailed Michael Getler the following-
Dear Michael Getler,
I’m a long time PBS viewer and contributer these last few decades. I recently retired to SC, but remain an educator. Every day at 6 PM I watch the News Hour. I congradulate the News Hour on always voicing opposing sides to controversial issues. The interview with Anthony Watts was consistent with PBS policy. I am a life long conservationist, s social liberal, and usually vote Democratic, which I tell you only because of the stereotypes in the climate change controversies. I ALSO TEACH A COURSE ON GLOBAL WARMING/CLIMATE CHANGE at a local university. There is much misinformation and disinformation about the so-called consensus, about the so-called settled science, about the important difference between AGW (anthropogenic global warming) which virtually all climate scientists endorse and CAGW (catastrophic anthropogenic global warming) which is controversial in the science community. Most journalists, and you too, my friend, it seems, do not understand this important distinction. AGW is based on atmospheric science, the role of CO2 as a greenhouse gas, and is a foundational principle in climate science. CAGW is based upon models (computer simulations which are hypotheses) which assume mainly positive feedbacks (water vapor and other feedbacks) and assume attribution for warming is mainly greenhouse gas “forcings” and not natural variability. Though critically important, neither of these assumptions on which CAGW is based can be proven or is even testable with present climate science understanding. There are many informed disagreements in the science community about these issues which are referred to as “climate sensitivity” and “attribution.” You do climate science, the PBS viewers, and yourself no favors by censoring or condemning informed points of view. As ombudsman, you have a responsibility to understand the scientific controversies before weighing in with an opinion. It appears you have some homework to do.

Jeff D.
September 21, 2012 12:27 pm

Off Topic… Anyone else hate the auto-complete on their smart phones as much as I? Those things can take a good post and make you look out right stupid…

James Ard
September 21, 2012 12:27 pm

I eamiled the omsbudsman congratulating PBS for finally breaking free of their one sided coverage of the issue. Although most likely he will come out saying inviting Anthony was a mistake, surely in his heart he discovered what thugs the warmists are.

September 21, 2012 12:27 pm

Sherlock Holmes channeled by Anthony Watts:
“On the contrary, Watson, you can see everything.
You fail, however, to reason from what you see.”
“Data! Data! Data!
I can’t make bricks without clay.”
“It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data.
Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.”
“We must look for consistency.
Where there is a want of it we must suspect deception.”
“It is a capital mistake to theorize before you have all the evidence.
It biases the judgment.”
“One should always look for a possible alternative, and provide against it.
It is the first rule of criminal investigation.”

Sun Spot
September 21, 2012 12:33 pm

The cAGW clergy will soon be issuing Fatwa’s, maybe even getting Hassen out to whip up the suitable frightened masses to burn a few well sat surface stations.

D. Patterson
September 21, 2012 12:33 pm

The self-appointed foes of Anthony Watts have added a posting with comments to YouTube:
PBS NewsHour Features Climate Denier Anthony Watts, ‘Science Has A New Home’

Anyone wish to add their own comments?

Guam
September 21, 2012 12:34 pm

Science by Email how novel, oh wait did someone say climategate 🙂

lurker, passing through laughing.
September 21, 2012 12:35 pm

The AGW true beleivers are bigots in the smae vein as racists and eugenicists.
They are not seeking to be reasoned with. They are seeking to stop those who dare to disagree.

MarkW
September 21, 2012 12:39 pm

Media Matters: Isn’t that the same group that has been recently exposed as conspiring with the Justice Dept to discredit critics of the Obama administration?

MarkW
September 21, 2012 12:40 pm

It never ceases to amaze me the way some people, almost exclusively liberals, actually believe that people who don’t agree with them have no right to be heard.

Fred Allen
September 21, 2012 12:42 pm

I have a great deal of respect for PBS. They do a great job with limited resources. My level of respect just went up because they included another view (Anthony’s) on the climate change discussion and they would have had a good idea about the expected reaction, but included the discussion anyway. I would hope this leads to more questions about this global warming “consensus”; a greater look at the so-called “evidence” and a discussion of the politics.

Jimbo
September 21, 2012 12:43 pm

Paul Westhaver says:
September 21, 2012 at 11:59 am
Ombudsman???
Really…??
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So what did Anthony say that was wrong?

This is where the problems will start for the Ombudsman. He will have to find fault which won’t be easy. Anthony also gave his very mild opinion about what’s driving the alarmist scientists. What’s faulty about that? Ha the Ombudsmand seen the billions being pumped into this religion?

Walt
September 21, 2012 12:44 pm

PBS seems to follow the principle that truth & scientific fact are determined by the volume of emails & protestations.

CEH
September 21, 2012 12:46 pm

Stand fast Mr Watts, you have people all around the world backing you.
We all benefit from your excellent work.

Theo Goodwin
September 21, 2012 12:52 pm

To Doug Craig: please visit the website of Roger Pielke, Sr. He is the best among practicing climate scientists and has yards of peer reviewed publications. He endorses much of Watts’ work. Then, Mr. Craig, ask yourself why you do not know about Pielke, Sr?

DesertYote
September 21, 2012 12:54 pm

Well the reaction is pretty much absolute proof that this is not about climate, but all about the destruction of capitalism to make the world safe for the much desired marxist utopia. Just look at the list of attackers!

Theo Goodwin
September 21, 2012 12:54 pm

Will the ombudsman be publishing PBS’s relevant guidelines from PBS, explaining their application, and encouraging debate? I really, really look forward to that.

Mark Wagner
September 21, 2012 12:55 pm

I found the PBS report well done, and have emailed the ombudsman to say so.
http://www.pbs.org/ombudsman/feedback.html

September 21, 2012 12:57 pm

I wrote to PBS and relied on many of your observations here–thanks. I wonder if he’ll look at all sides? I hope so. Here is what I wrote:
Dear Mr. Getler,
How many times has PBS extolled the need for “diversity of opinion?” I do not want to see journalism at PBS turn ‘science’ into ‘political correctness.’
I know your more vocal followers were shocked out of their comfortable mime when PBS showed an interview with Anthony Watts, but as one blogger stated at Anthony’s site, “Re-reading the measured, steady, honest and respectful tone with which Anthony conducted himself in his PBS interview, and comparing it with the hate filled invective of the baying mob who are attacking him, it’s easy to see who will be coming out of this with his head held high.”
I too am a published researcher, albeit not a climate scientist, but I know that science, real science, welcomes scrutiny–that is how science advances. Remember that in the 1950’s scientists said salt caused high blood pressure, in the 1960’s they said it didn’t, in the 1970’s they said it helped lower it–and so on to today where they say if you are salt sensitive, maybe you should restrict it but nothing has yet been conclusively (scientifically) settled.
Please read Richard N. Fogoros, M.D.s update of salt intake here: http://heartdisease.about.com/cs/hypertension/a/saltwars.htm
I am hoping that if you read Dr. Fognoros’ non inflammatory review of salt science and in your mind substitute “C02” for “salt,” and “runaway global warming” for “hypertension” and “planet” for “population” you will get a measured view of how to look at a balanced science debate.
I challenge you to go to the comment section of Watt’s blog on your upcoming piece about the balanced presentation of global warming that is upsetting many of your viewers–after reading our comments there–I don’t think you can escape the obvious intelligence of the professional people, scientists, and concerned citizens for the future of our planet. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/09/21/bizarre-reactions-to-my-pbs-interview-continue-pbs-ombudsman-to-publish-criticism-of-my-inclusion-into-pbs-newshour/#more-71375
Please, give it a fair shot–and if you don’t agree–then point out in your piece how we (the climate realists) fall short of being reasonable, informed, respectful and open to learning from science… and Anthony will publish that for us. (Actually he’ll publish whatever you say, but that is his integrity.)
Thank you

timg56
September 21, 2012 12:58 pm

The text of my letter to Mr. Getler:
Mr Getler,
I understand you will be doing a piece on PBS’ recent story on the subject of global warming. I want to express my disappointment with PBS’ handling of the criticism it has received. Today, with the public’s trust in media at an all time low (as reported this week on NPR), one would like to think of PBS (and NPR) as one of the last bastions of reliable, honest, information. Instead both organizations have recently shown that journalistic integrity and plain courage is discountable in the face of disgruntled viewers and listeners.
A week ago NPR ran a story on the Stanford research study indicating there was no decernable health benefits from eating organic food. While I missed the original story, there was no missing the immediate backpedalling which occured the next day.
As I recall, normal practice is to air listener feedback to the weeks stories over the weekend. In this instance a followup story was broadcast the very next day. While that in itself is not extrordinary, the content was. The host and reporter went to great lengths to appease all the upset listeners by refocusing the story to being one of insufficient time having passed for impacts to manifest themselves, rather than the crux of the study. It was almost funny, if it hadn’t been so sad.
Then this week PBS decides not to be outdone when it comes to pandering to its viewers and issues an immediate followup piece to the global warming story that was almost entirely focused on undermining the credability of a single member of the participants in that story.
I will be interested in seeing if you find fundemental flaws with how PBS went about producing and presenting this piece. To be honest, I suspect it will be a CYA exercise to appease.
I will end this with a plea. Please show us that PBS values its integrity above any blowback it might receive from viewers unhappy with the news and information you report. The loss of a few subscribers is a small price to pay.

September 21, 2012 1:00 pm

I just sent an email to the ombudsman saying I was looking forward to seeing his article so I could understand how a supposedly unbiased news source could apologize for airing both sides of an issue and not come off like a propagandist.

David
September 21, 2012 1:01 pm

My advice. Ignore this nonsense. Hundreds of emails? 15,000 people? PBS, Media Matters, Forecast The Facts, etc, etc are all just embarrassing themselves by making such a big deal about this.

September 21, 2012 1:02 pm

I think your comments were very mild, Anthony. I can think of many who would have accused the purveyors of the CO2 hoax as being junk scientists, liars and cheats.