Bizarre reactions to my PBS interview continue – PBS Ombudsman to publish criticism of my inclusion into PBS Newshour

UPDATE: 1:50PM – The PBS News Hour Ombudsman has posted his essay, you can read it here.

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For the record, just now, I’ve called PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler to give him an opportunity to ask me questions before he publishes his article. I got voice mail, so we’ll see if he’s interested in hearing anything about my side before condemning me. I predict he will not return my call, but if he does I’ll report it here. UPDATE 11:50AM: Mr. Getler HAS returned my call and we had a pleasant conversation.

Via Tom Nelson:

PBS Ombud: NewsHour Climate Change Report Worth Criticizing | Blog | Media Matters for America 

A PBS NewsHour global warming report that allowed a climate change contrarian to “counterbalance” mainstream scientific opinion is worth criticizing, according to PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler, who said he received hundreds of emails and calls about the program.

Getler said he is penning a column on the issue that is likely to be posted late today or Monday, and hinted it will be critical.

“There’s just a lot of…hundreds of emails about it,” Getler said when asked why he is writing about the issue. “Commentary about it all over and it’s interesting.”

Getler declined to offer specific views on the NewsHour report, which aired last Monday. But when asked if he has found elements to criticize, he said: “Oh yeah, of course there’s material to be critical about.”

When Media Matters first called this morning, Getler said he had been contacted by many viewers since Monday about the issue: “It’s what everyone’s calling about, the global warming thing.”

Former CNN science reporter Miles Obrien:

PBS NewsHour Science Reporter Miles O’Brien: Climate Denier Segment A ‘Horrible, Horrible Thing’ | ThinkProgress

The general public has spoken out as well, with over 15,000 [aren’t there a lot more than 15,000 people in the general public?] people signing a Forecast the Facts petition to PBS ombudsman Michael Getler demanding an investigation of how this violation of PBS journalistic standards made it to broadcast.

And here’s some thinly veiled hate:

Warmist Doug Craig: You know what Anthony Watts is like? A dark figure with no wood who tears your home down every night

Redding.com Blogs: Doug Craig’s blog

Imagine you are building a house and at night while you are sleeping someone destroys all your work. Each day you return to build your home and each night, dark figures tear it down. Anthony Watts and others like him have nothing to build. They have no scientific “wood.” They create nothing while they destroy everything.

…Like the cancer victim who refuses treatment because they deny they are sick, Watts is that voice of denial that prevents us from decisive action on behalf of our children and their future. The lie lives. The saboteurs are free and in control of this false debate.

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For the record, this is what they are upset about:

Here’s the story/transcript from Spencer Michels, along with video that follows. I have not seen the piece that will be airing nationally yet, and I don’t know how much of me they use, but this just appeared on the PBS website.

One note: when they talk about “heat sync” they really meant to say heat sink. – Anthony

Conversation with global warming skeptic Anthony Watts  – Climate Change Skeptic Says Global Warming Crowd Oversells Its Message

From PBS:

It was about 105 degrees in Chico, Calif., about three hours north of Sacramento, when we arrived at the offices of one of the nation’s most read climate skeptics. Actually, Anthony Watts calls himself a pragmatic skeptic when it comes to global warming. Watts is a former television meteorologist, who has been studying climate change for years. He doesn’t claim to be a scientist; he attended Purdue. He’s the author of a blog, Watts Up with That?, which he calls the world’s most viewed site on global warming. For a story I was working on for the PBS NewsHour, Watts was recommended by the Heartland Institute, a conservative, Chicago-based non-profit that is one of the leading groups that doubt that climate change — if it exists — is attributable to human activities.

Watts doesn’t come across as a true believer or a fanatic. For one thing, he has built a business that caters to television stations and individuals who want accurate weather information and need displays to show their viewers. He has developed an array of high tech devices to disseminate weather data and put it on screens. He has several TV stations around the country as clients.

But Watts’ reputation doesn’t come from his business — IntelliWeather — but rather from his outspoken views on climate change. He says he’s been gathering data for years, and he’s analyzed it along with some academics. He used to think somewhat along the same lines as Richard Muller, the University of California physicist who recently declared he was no longer a skeptic on climate change. Muller had analyzed two centuries worth of temperature data and decided his former skepticism was misplaced: yes, the earth has been warming, and the reason is that humans are producing carbon dioxide that is hastening the warming the planet.

Watts doesn’t buy Muller’s analysis, since, he believes, it is based on faulty data. The big problem, as Watts sees it, is that the stations where temperatures are gathered are too close to urban developments where heat is soaked up and distorts the readings. So it looks like the earth is warming though it may not be, he says.

Read a transcript below.

SPENCER MICHELS: So let’s start out with the basic idea that there’s this debate in this country over global warming. There’s some people who call it a complete hoax and there are some people who completely embrace it and so forth. Where do you stand in that spectrum?

ANTHONY WATTS: Well, I at one time was very much embracing the whole concept that we had a real problem, we had to do something about it. Back in 1988 James Hanson actually was the impetus for that for me in his presentation before Congress. But as I learned more and more about the issue, I discovered that maybe it’s not as bad as it’s made out to be. Some of it is hype, but there’s also some data that has not been explored and there’s been some investigations that need to be done that haven’t been done. And so now I’m in the camp of we have some global warming. No doubt about it, but it may not be as bad as we originally thought because there are other contributing factors.

SPENCER MICHELS: What’s the thing that bothers you the most about people who say there’s lots of global warming?

ANTHONY WATTS: They want to change policy. They want to apply taxes and these kinds of things may not be the actual solution for making a change to our society.

SPENCER MICHELS: What are you saying? That they’re biased essentially or motivated by something else? What?

ANTHONY WATTS: [T]here’s a term that was used to describe this. It’s called noble cause corruption. And actually I was a victim of that at one time, where you’re so fervent you’re in your belief that you have to do something. You’re saving the planet, you’re making a difference, you’re making things better that you’re so focused on this goal of fixing it or changing it that you kind of forget to look along the path to make sure that you haven’t missed some things.

I started looking into the idea that weather stations have been slowly encroached upon by urbanization and sighting issues over the last century. Meaning that our urbanization affected the temperature. And this was something that was very clear if you looked at the temperature records. But what wasn’t clear is how it affected the trend of temperatures. And so that’s been something that I’ve been investigating. Anyone who’s ever stood next to a building in the summertime at night, a brick building that’s been out in the summer sun, you stand next to it at night you can feel the heat radiating off of it. That’s a heat sync effect. And over the last 100 years our country, in fact the world, has changed. We’ve gone from having mostly a rural agrarian society to one that is more urban and city based and as a result the infrastructure has increased. We’ve got more freeways, you know more airports, we’ve got more buildings. Got more streets, all these things. Those are all heat syncs. During the day, solar insulation hits these objects and these surfaces and it stores heat in these objects. At night it releases that heat. Now if you are measuring temperature in a city that went from having uh maybe 10% of um, non-permeable surface to you know maybe 90% over 100 years, that’s a heat sync effect and that should show up in the record. The problem is, is that it’s been such a slow subtle change over the last 100 years. It’s not easy to detect and that’s been the challenge and that’s what I’ve been working on.

SPENCER MICHELS: Well in a way you’re saying that the records aren’t accurate, the data isn’t accurate.

ANTHONY WATTS: I’m saying that the data might be biased by these influences to a percentage. Yes, we have some global warming, it’s clear the temperature has gone up in the last 100 years. But what percentage of that is from carbon dioxide? And what percentage of that is from changes in the local and measurement environment?

SPENCER MICHELS: I want to go back to what we were talking about a little bit earlier, the idea that there is, there are people who are sort of invested in promoting the fact that there is global warming. There’s money involved and grants. Is that what you were saying? Maybe explain that.

ANTHONY WATTS: Well global warming had become essentially a business in its own right. There are NGOs, there are organizations, there are whole divisions of universities that have set up to study this, this factor, and so there’s lots of money involved and then so I think that there’s a tendency to want to keep that going and not really look at what might be different.

SPENCER MICHELS: Now Dr. Muller at the University of California Berkeley had similar concerns. Went back and looked at the data, took much more data than anybody else had, and concluded, well maybe there was some problems, but basically the conclusions were right. There is global warming and it comes from carbon dioxide which is meant, made by man. Do you buy that?

ANTHONY WATTS: Unfortunately he has not succeeded in terms of how science views, you know, a successful inquiry. His papers have not passed peer review. They had some problems. Some of the problems I identified, others have identified problems as well, for example, he goes much further back, back to about 1750 in terms of temperature. Well from my own studies, I know that temperature really wasn’t validated and homogenized where everything’s measured the same way until the weather bureau came into being about in 1890. Prior to that thermometers were hung in and exposed to the atmosphere all kinds of different ways. Some were hung under the shade of trees, some were on the north side of houses, some were out in the open in the sun, and so the temperature fluctuations that we got from those readings prior to 1890 was quite broad and I don’t believe that provided representative signal because the exposure’s all wrong. And Dr. Muller did not take any of that into account.

SPENCER MICHELS: His conclusion though is that basically global warming exists and that the scientists, no matter what the problems were, were pretty much right on.

ANTHONY WATTS: I agree with him that global warming exists. However, the ability to attribute the percentage of global warming to CO2 versus other man-made influences is still an open question.

SPENCER MICHELS: I want to ask you a little bit about attitudes towards this among the public. We talked to a public opinion specialist at Stanford who says there’s been 80 percent belief in global warming and man-made global warming consistently over at least the last 15 years in this country. Do you buy his theory?

ANTHONY WATTS: Well I look at a number of opinion polls. You’ll find a lot of them on my blog and that we’ve covered. And depending on how you ask the question we’ll sometimes give you a different answer. My view is, is that the view of global warming peaked about at the time that Al Gore came out with his movie, An Inconvenient Truth. But ever since then other factors have kicked in. Climate Gate for example. And it has become less of an issue, in fact you hardly see politicians talking about it anymore, or pushing it as an issue. What’s been happening now it’s just become a regulation issue. It’s gotten away from the political arena and into the bureaucratic regulation arena. And so people I believe based on the polls I’ve seen, aren’t quite as believing as they used to be. And I think the trend is downward.

SPENCER MICHELS: What do you think is the upshot of your attitude toward this? Should the Congress, should the American public say, you know nothing’s been proven yet. We should wait. Or should we go ahead with trying to solve what many people consider a really scary problem?

ANTHONY WATTS: Hmm…You mentioned a really scary problem and I think that’s part of the issues. Some people don’t respond well to scare tactics and there have been some scare tactics used by some of the proponents on the other side of the issue. And that’s where the overselling of it comes in. But this is a slow problem and it requires a slow solution I believe. For example, our infrastructure for electricity and so forth and highways didn’t happen in 5 years or 10 years. It happened over a century. We can’t just rip all that up or change it in the space off five, 10 or 15 years because it’ll be catastrophic to our economy. We need a slow change solution, one that is a solution that changes over time at about the same rate as climate change. More efficient technologies, new technologies, the use of more nuclear for example. There’s a nuclear type of a reactor that’s more safe called a, a liquid thorium reactor that China is jumping on right now. And we should be looking into things like that.

SPENCER MICHELS: Has this issue, I know you think it’s been oversold and scare tactics have been used. Do you think it’s become too politicized?

ANTHONY WATTS: Oh, it’s definitely become too politicized. In fact, some of the scientists who are the leaders in the issue have become for lack of a better word, political tools on the issue.

SPENCER MICHELS: One final question, do you consider yourself a skeptic when it comes to global warming?

ANTHONY WATTS: I would call myself a pragmatic skeptic. Yes, we need to make some changes on our energy technology but more efficient technology’s a good thing. For example, I have solar power on my own, you know, I have done energy reductions in my office and in my home to make things more efficient. So I think those are good things. Those are good messages that we should be embracing. But at the same time I think that some of the issues have been oversold, may have been oversold, because they allow for more regulation to take place. And so the people that like more regulation use global warming as a tool, as a means to an end. And so as a result, we might be getting more regulation and more taxes that really aren’t rooted in science, but more in politics.

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James Ard
September 22, 2012 7:40 am

Joe Romm on cspan right now. The warmists are having a pissing in the wind contest.

Physics Major
September 22, 2012 8:05 am

Perhaps the Barbara Streisand effect will kick in and a lot of people will come to WUWT for the first time and find it interesting.
I am going to take the money that I usually donate to PBS and put it in Anthony’s tip jar.

Carrick
September 22, 2012 8:48 am

James Ard:

Joe Romm on cspan right now. The warmists are having a pissing in the wind contest.

One of the best voices for the non-warmist movement. Expect the 15,000 signature petition to appear soon, or it would, if they weren’t so oblivious to just how stark-raving mad Romm is.

Richard M
September 22, 2012 9:38 am

I also noted the ombudsman ended his essay with quote from skeptics. I smiled when I read that as I think it was a hint of what he really thought. However, he was responding as he was no doubt told to respond to mend the hurt feelings of the liberal PBS base. Why was he told to respond this way? There’s a little irony when you think about it.
Obviously, the answer is MONEY. The irony is this is exactly the same motivation that no doubt drives many climate scientists. Without the climate scare how many climate jobs would disappear? 20%? 50%? 80%? I suspect the latter figure to be quite close.
So, we have PBS acting based on MONEY, supporting alarmists who rail against the idea that climate scientists could ever be influenced in the same manner.

September 22, 2012 10:29 am

Joe Postma says: September 21, 2012 at 12:06 pm Okay, seriously. How long until the alarmists just outright call for the murder of real skeptical scientists?
Hm? They already did that, sort of — not murder but execution. Everything to be done legally. Not just skeptical scientists but skeptics at large. That was when they started screaming (forgot who, actually) that skeptics should be considered enemies of humanity which, in several countries, implies the death penalty.

MikeS
September 22, 2012 11:14 am

Next time, if this bit of censorship doesn’t thoroughly chill the environment, get Burt Rutan to fly in and join the interview. Anthony needs a little more “gravitas”. Seriously, a few common sense comments from Anthony to the public and it’s a full on (religious) freak-out.

S Basinger
September 22, 2012 12:32 pm

Looks like good ol’ sleepy PBS is facing the music for deciding to violate the warm cocoon of left-wing confirmation bias with a (gasp!) contrarian viewpoint. It’d be a similar poopstorm if Fox News gave non-hostile airtime to Gavin Schmidt.
It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out and if it affects the way that PBS airs things in the future. If I was PBS’s director of programming, I’d take advantage of the contraversy and the additional eyeballs that it generates by creating a ‘blue ribbon’ panel of Watts, a somewhat neutral scientific figure and a rational but radical warmist figure for inclusion in some of their programming. It’d probably be fairly successful.

Andrew Holder
September 22, 2012 2:17 pm

It’ll be interesting to see the aftermath of this in twenty years time. If it is proven in around 2030 that the world continues to warm despite cold pdo/amo/low solar then it will be not due to CO2 – there will be an as yet unknown factor that is more significant. I think, whatever happens, Mr Watts will go down in history as supplying better climate understanding to a larger audience – which the media to its shame is not doing. Only with people like Anthony and others will there be any order of balance – and with balance comes better science. It is shameful the way people react to differences of opinion, it seems that the climate debate is a new religion for many and so tolerance is not tolerated.

pat
September 22, 2012 2:27 pm

the crazy, insane and mysterious world of CAGW:
20 Sept: TheEnergyCollective: Joe Romm: In The ‘Crazy’ World Of Carbon Finance, Coal Now Qualifies For Emission Reduction Credits
Now the UN has added coal to the list of eligible projects. Again.
At a CDM Executive Board meeting last week, the organization approved new rules that allow more efficient supercritical coal plants built in developing countries to obtain carbon credits. So theoretically, a coal-fired power plant in Europe could be “offset” by carbon credits not through renewable energy, but through another carbon-burning coal power plant in India.
“This destroys the sense that there is some sanity and rationale to this mechanism,” said Justin Guay, head of the international climate program at the Sierra Club. “The fact that we are defending coal plants as part of low-carbon finance is crazy.”
The Sierra Club and the watchdog group CDM Watch say there are 40 plants in China and India waiting for CDM approval…
According to a recent report from Thomson Reuters Point Carbon, there is currently a supply glut of credits worth 13.1 billion tons of CO2 for the Kyoto period through 2012…
Adding more coal plants to the mix will only make the problem worse, say onlookers.
“It’s unfortunate that the executive board has made this decision given that carbon markets are collapsing right now because of an oversupply of credits,” said Anja Kollmuss, a carbon markets expert with CDM Watch.
After the UN executive board approved new CDM rules for coal, prices for certified emission reduction credits fell to an all-time low of $2.01 per metric ton of CO2 equivalent.
“It’s really kind of a mystery as to why they approved this,” said Kollmuss…
“When you look at the contradictory standards set by these organizations, it shows how insane the framework for discussion has become,” says the Sierra Club’s Guay…
http://theenergycollective.com/josephromm/114571/crazy-world-carbon-finance-coal-now-qualifies-emission-reduction-credits

TomRude
September 22, 2012 4:12 pm

Perhaps PBS should have interviewed Dr Christy, Dr Lindzen then?

Zeke
September 22, 2012 4:38 pm

“an investigation of how this violation of PBS journalistic standards made it to broadcast.”
Ask an Aussie what that might mean.

Tsk Tsk
September 22, 2012 6:47 pm

Presumably Think Progress, Skeptical Science, et. al. have now applied for tax exempt status as religious institutions. We have a modern day Inquisition nearly ready to apply flame to purge the blasphemy of skepticism. What’s all the more depressing is that many of these people are likely shaking their heads in disbelief over the Muslim reaction to a silly video while they fail to see just how thin a line separates them from their perceived demons.

DanDaly
September 22, 2012 9:05 pm

Back in the day when I was a journalist, I and my colleagues strove to present both sides of a story so as to achieve balanced reporting. We were not empowered to make decisions; it was our job to inform the electorate so that intelligent decisions would be made. When I was no longer able to present both sides, because one side was rationale and the other the drivel of morons, I went to law school. I would rather do something else than betray the trust the First Amendment had bestowed upon me. Shame on PBS! The Cold War was fought and won so that people, including Russians, could speak their minds according to their consciences. Apparently PBS would like to drop the Iron Curtain aroung the entire issue of Global Warming.

Billy Liar
September 23, 2012 2:09 am

Employed as a clinical psychologist in private practice in Redding for 24 years. One wife, two daughters, two cats, two dogs, 36 solar panels and three hybrids. ”
(information he gives about himself on his blog)

Dirk H,
I’m sure Doug Craig, realizing the immense damage he is doing to our environment, will dispose of his three cars and four pets.

Keitho
Editor
September 23, 2012 4:34 am

OK, I have read all the posts at Climate Etc. , All the commentary over at PBS and visited some disgusting and disgraceful warmist sites and blogs.
Guys we sound so calm and sensible compared to the AGW crew. We question the measurement of Global Warming not the fact particularly. We question the amount the Anthropogenic component contributes. We question the Catastrophic description. The AGW Mafia want to shut down these questions and us along with them yet they simply are unconvincing.
It’s a pity that the ombudsman is a believer, he admits this, but more worrying is his stance that Anthony should not have been allowed to create doubt. That is astonishing. The quote from Oliver Wendell Holmes is apposite here and there is no difference in my mind between the AGW crew trying to suppress public expression of doubt in the CAGW shibboleth and the attempts by Islam to get non believers to adhere to Islamic dogma.
I think it is true that Anthony hit a very raw nerve and this electrified response is a consequence of their knowing that they have a poor scientific theory carrying a rock solid political one. The politics of envy and resentment have found the perfect scientific underpinning in CAGW as it gives a reason for wealth redistribution without the need for wealth creation and what’s worse is the MSM being totally on sides with this.

Matt Y,
September 23, 2012 8:52 am

Well done, Anthony. I’m sure the harsh reaction no doubt is largely based on the fact that you came off as intelligent, well informed, thoughtful, and open minded. Something that can rarely be said of the alarmists. They feel like they must reject all skeptics as extreme nuts or fossil fuel shills. And you made both of those options very difficult. Keep up the good work!

Eric (skeptic)
September 23, 2012 11:28 am

I sent my email to the ombudsman and tried to keep it simply on one topic. I explained that the way the 97.5% agreement question was framed put Anthony Watts on the side of the 97.5% My apologies to Tallbloke and many other loyal followers of this blog in the 2.5%, keep up the good work, but you are not part of the 97.5%. Anthony is, and that’s basically what I explained in my email.
It’s interesting that in all the comments in this thread, none of the proponents for censoring Watts showed up to defend their proposed censorship of Watts. Not one. You would think (and I truly believe) that with all of their skill in defending their point of view that they could come and make a coherent and persuasive argument for censorship.
Off topic note: I have noticed (perhaps incorrectly) that Tom Curtis who nicely debunked most of Lewandowski’s crap “science” has disappeared from SkepSci. Of course just my mere noticing of that fact proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that skeptics like myself believe in conspiracies such as that the moon landing was faked.

Alexander K
September 23, 2012 4:03 pm

More power to your elbow, Anthony – the illogical reaction by the PBS has shown how little they actually believe in the freedom of speech as part of living in a democracy. The PBS ‘Ombudsman’ defiles that very honourable term with his un-ombudsman-like prouncements.

David A. Evans
September 23, 2012 4:41 pm

Richard Muller, Sceptic? What World is this guy on?
DaveE.

MLCross
September 24, 2012 3:24 am

I wonder who’s going to have to resign from PBS over this. I guess the producer will have to take the fall.

Jace F
September 25, 2012 12:29 am

Well you will go on TV and commit Blasphemy! It’s no worse than the hysteria at the height of McCarthyism akin to what might have happened if the Pope had invited Aleister Crowley to address Mass. The main point here is that if the CAGW side had anything more than adjusted temperature record sets (the raw data long lost), suspect pal reviewed papers that use suspect statistical hocus pocus and computer models that can’t hind cast never mid predict anything useful they would have wheeled it out. The fact that they don’t release data, avoid FOIA and resort to smear and diversion tells you all you need to know.

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