Readers may recall Dr. Mann’s emotional hullabaloo over an NRO published Mark Steyn editorial here. NRO responded to Dr. Mann’s legal threat today, and the headline is priceless.
NRO’s headline is succinct and to the point, I like it. Here’s the response from NRO editor Rich Lowry:
And this is where you come in. If Mann goes through with it, we’re probably going to call on you to help fund our legal fight and our investigation of Mann through discovery. If it gets that far, we may eventually even want to hire a dedicated reporter to comb through the materials and regularly post stories on Mann.
My advice to poor Michael is to go away and bother someone else. If he doesn’t have the good sense to do that, we look forward to teaching him a thing or two about the law and about how free debate works in a free country.
He’s going to go to great trouble and expense to embark on a losing cause that will expose more of his methods and maneuverings to the world. In short, he risks making an ass of himself. But that hasn’t stopped him before.
Heh, how well can Mike pound sand? Read the whole thing here.
UPDATE: The response from NRO’s attorney to Dr. Mann’s attorney is here (PDF)
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Mann has sued Dr. Tim Ball. I’m not sure where the suit itself stands. It has a couple of interesting aspects:
Mann may have a problem with discovery. I’m not sure if he can save his bacon by dropping the case or not.
It looks like Mann and co. have tried a smear campaign against Tim Ball’s legal advisor.
In the above linked post, there is a strong implication that Mann is being accused of criminal fraud.
IANAL (I am not a lawyer) but that looks, to me, like the serious accusation of fraud has been leveled and that ‘they’ haven’t presented evidence to refute it. Perhaps someone more clueful than I can enlighten me about that.
I wouldn’t suppose that either of Mann’s cases has any chance of success. On the other hand, anyone who has followed the SCO cases on groklaw.net will tell you that crap can have a life of its own and go on for years in the courts. It isn’t necessary to win a case if your goal is just scorched earth.
For anyone from Rio Linda – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIQ70is-RPM&feature=player_embedded
Mike M:
re your post at August 22, 2012 at 1:51 pm.
It does not matter if the statement you quote has been redacted from the article because there is no dispute that it was in the article as originally published. The legal response (linked in the above article) addresses the redacted statement and seems (n.b. I am NOT a lawyer) to indicate there is no legal case to answer for the statement because it is justified in the article.
Anyway, discussion of that in court would provide much needed publicity about the nature of the so-called investigation into Mann by Penn State Uni..
Richard
NRO fine at 22:10 BST.
The first article about Mann, then his ridiculous response, and now NRO’s “Get Lost”! Priceless! It’s readily apparent that Mann hasn’t stayed in a Holiday Inn Express for years.
All things come to he who waits.
If this were to go to court, it might be a case where someone other than the lawyers win…
The hockey stick got the shaft. Priceless.
Three cheers for Rich Lowry.
I wasn’t expecting a “Dear John” letter, but there it is, “Dear John.” That would annoy someone too proud of his degree and station in life.
Apparently there is a missing parallel that could be drawn between the Mann and Sandusky affairs, I think it should be safe for me to utter this:
Coach Sandusky doesn’t belong at Penn State, he belongs in the State Pen.
Is this Mann the mouth? All mouth and no action, or mann of the month on an ego trip?
Well I like “Nuts!” myself. A lot more esoteric, than “what part of n o do you not understand?” and likely to bamboozle many more, who are just learning the four letter words for the first time.
People understand the word fraud in different ways. Fraud has a number of different meanings including a trick and something not fulfilling what is claimed of it (Oxford English Dictionary). Why Mann has found meaning in the article in the way that he claims is open to interpretation.
Most people understand words in context and would have seen the article for what it is, journalistic exaggeration for effect, with a dose of satirical humor, obviously not to be taken literally.
A good example of such hyperbole is: “Get Lost”.
Mann is all bluff, this won’t go anywhere. Love the response from NRO’s attorney, though, and I sure wish Mann would push it forward. It would be quite a show. 🙂
Excellent… I just subscribed to NRO’s digital edition and will be more than happy to contribute to the legal fund!
“Best response since General Anthony McAuliffe (look it up if historically challenged). :-)”
I prefer Surgeon Joe Johnstone’s of 55 field surgical teams response ,following the battle of Mirbat when he was told, while operating, that the local Wali had demanded that injured enemy be sent out for public execution. “Bill, will you go outside and tell them to f**k off”…
Michael Mann — insulated arrogance about to get bit. How can an ass possibly make an ass of itself?
“Never interrupt your enemy when they’re in the process of making a mistake”
They should have just kept razing him on until he sued, then hit with discovery by surprise. A perfect opportunity to get the evidence out in the open has been blown.
Google mark steyn, big city lib and shagged sheep. Long but worth it.
Early on as a skeptic with a serious science background, debate noise prevented me from personally making a judgement on the famous hockey stick. But delve into it I did, eventually, and I came away utterly shocked and disillusioned. It did not involve technical glitches but at its very heart was rotten in a way that strongly suggested small fry cunning rather than naïveté. A guote by Dali comes to mind that ties the AGW debate into the overall cultural one in which children are still being literally sold a bill of goods:
“Cézanne is the finest expressions of this decadence. He was truly unable to imitate the masterpieces and all of his admired technique is merely proof of his inability. His apples are made of cement. The paradox is that what is least admirable is most admired: nullity! What a symbol for a period! On the pretext of the academic being detestable, the worst in the class was made a hero! He opens the door to the ethics of sh*t! Newness at whatever costs and art becomes just a latrine! The logic of this search for newness leads to the gratification of total sh*t of which Cézanne is the high priest.” – Salvador Dali (“Dali on Modern Art” 1957)
Spanked!!
What did Jerry Sandusky say when he got out of prison? “Mann, it feels great to be out of there, I feel like a kid again.”
AnonyMoose says:
August 22, 2012 at 11:48 am
I hope the price of popcorn is not too high. We’d all be needing to buy large quantities.
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I believe the price of corn is at an all time high at the moment. Something to do with fuel.
Although you might get a good discount for quantities of large bags.
I just want a jumbo bag to pop when FOIA releases climategate III.
cn
I have been sued by fools a couple of times. The discovery process opens up everything and in both cases the litigant ended up looking the fool. I have no doubt that experience will repeat itself. Lawsuits are usually files for emotional reasons, always a bad way to make a decision.
Also I bet this is just what Penn State needs right now, another botched internal “pal review” investigation and coverup brought into the light of day.
loser