Readers may recall Dr. Mann’s emotional hullabaloo over an NRO published Mark Steyn editorial here. NRO responded to Dr. Mann’s legal threat today, and the headline is priceless.
NRO’s headline is succinct and to the point, I like it. Here’s the response from NRO editor Rich Lowry:
And this is where you come in. If Mann goes through with it, we’re probably going to call on you to help fund our legal fight and our investigation of Mann through discovery. If it gets that far, we may eventually even want to hire a dedicated reporter to comb through the materials and regularly post stories on Mann.
My advice to poor Michael is to go away and bother someone else. If he doesn’t have the good sense to do that, we look forward to teaching him a thing or two about the law and about how free debate works in a free country.
He’s going to go to great trouble and expense to embark on a losing cause that will expose more of his methods and maneuverings to the world. In short, he risks making an ass of himself. But that hasn’t stopped him before.
Heh, how well can Mike pound sand? Read the whole thing here.
UPDATE: The response from NRO’s attorney to Dr. Mann’s attorney is here (PDF)
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I’m laughing. Long and loud alone in my classroom during lunch.
And it feels goooood. 🙂
I zipped the page and included a pdf print of it as well. Get it here:
http://www.bengtboysen.se/upload/getlostrichlowry.zip
“Get lost.”
Either NRO has evidence of fraud or famous last words I’m afraid.
If he sues, maybe we’ll finally get to see the UVa e-mails through discovery.
@ur momisugly Jeremy Poynton 12:17 pm
You weren’t even on the podium.
Unfortunately this good news will never be reported by the MSM.
Mann’s fevered outpourings on the other hand…
KevinM says:
August 22, 2012 at 11:49 am
“Mann could win or lose this battle and walk away with a fat wallet either way. I’d like to be stupid like that.”
Mann made himself a national celebrity and quite consciously so. Maybe his books didn’t sell but he still might get a movie deal – Hollywood, ya know.
Has Mann sued Muller? Surely, no one has put down Mann more than Muller. So, why has he not sued Muller?
The lawyer’s letter is excellent. Our courts are the one remaining realm of free speech in the world. Sadly, they are also the one remaining realm of reason. And I do not mean to say that our courts are always supporters of free speech or that they are always reasonable.
In the old days, if you loved reason more than all else then philosophy was your discipline. Because the Leftists took over academia, the law, imperfect as it is, is all that remains to lovers of reason.
Get into a pissing match with the NRO? Dimwit.
NRO is fine as of 10 seconds ago.
NileQueen says:
August 22, 2012 at 12:28 pm
RE: National Review website has crashed.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/314680/get-lost-rich-lowry
Works for me. (unlimited security clearance… 🙂 )
Please, please, please, Mr. Steyn. Write another article. Please, please, please! And go a little bit closer to the line this time. Please, please please. I want Mr. Mann to sue so bad I can already taste the popcorn.
;-))
The trick is to get a counter claim rolling based on the costs he has put you to thus compelling the discovery process. He losses the power of withdrawal.
Advice to NRO’s attorney: take a screen dump or equivalent immediately, of every web page that you reference, especially if it is controlled by Mann or his mates, to protect yourselves against them being changed. (Hopefully you are smart enough to have done that already).
Dave says:
August 22, 2012 at 11:40 am
“…we look forward to teaching him a thing or two about the law and about how free debate works in a free country.”
If someone ever needed to learn that lesson, that would be Mr. Mann
Tis true, tis true. However, what immediately came to mind was the old saying: “Don’t waste time trying to teach a pig how to sing. After several lessons, all you’ll have is a nonsinging angry pig.”
“AnonyMoose says:
August 22, 2012 at 11:48 am
I hope the price of popcorn is not too high….”
Thanks to mother nature (drought) and the EPA (stupid use of what corn there is) the price of popcorn might become an issue.
Who will get to court first – NRO or Tim Ball ?
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Paul Homewood says:
August 22, 2012 at 12:22 pm
Who’s paying Mann’s legal costs?
Answer – We all are !!
NRO site is up. You guys must have swamped it.
A philanthropic person or foundation would provide an immense corrective boost to climate science by bankrolling Dr. Ball against Mann’s law suit, and any similar action. In which case,
in the interest of science, the blunt injunction would be:
“Do so!”
I encourage readers to donate to Dr. Ball’s legal fund where he is undertaking such discovery.
“… And the truth goes marching on …”
Another battalion repealing an assault in that army of independents?
Soldier on!
The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley says:
August 22, 2012 at 11:14 am
Even so, I think we should be prepared to contribute toward a fund for NRO – should that be necessary – for legal costs.
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My money’s safe.
Mann will never sue NRO over this matter and we all know why.
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ATheoK says:
August 22, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Personally, I think the NRO should put a weekly status notice below any Steyn postings. Something like, Mann still lost, no lawsuit no legal sweat, this week. Stay tuned to this space for further news if the Mann lost in the climate wilderness situation changes.
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Brilliant!
Ali:
At August 22, 2012 at 12:49 pm you made a post which said in total
Please read the response of the lawyers acting for NRO. It is linked from the above article and clearly states that the accusation of fraud applies to the ‘hockey stick’ graph and not legal fraud. That is a ‘shot across the bows’ for Mann if he insists on going to court.
The disputed statement was “fraudulent graph”. The graph was and is fraudulent. If you do not know this then I suggest you google “hide the decline” and “Mike’s Nature trick”.
Indeed, this is why you see so much glee in this thread. There are still people who refuse to recognise the deliberate fraud of that graph, and they fail to disdain the abusive Michael Mann who (with Bradley and Hughes) concocted that fraudulent graph.
Sadly, it is almost certain that Mann will not go to court on this NRO article. He is already bogged-down in two similar silly legal cases he has presented. Those defending against his legal attacks are asking for documents he does not want to reveal, so the cases are stalled by him. And he intends another similar case? I fail to accept that even his immense arrogance is sufficient for such stupidity.
Richard
Rand Simberg wrote (originally):
Mark Steyn referenced that very sentence in his article but the editor ‘disappeared it’:
http://www.openmarket.org/2012/07/13/the-other-scandal-in-unhappy-valley/
C’mon Competitive Enterprise Institute – grow a pair.
Wow, if it encourages Mann to take legal action I think I will offer to chip in to HIS legal team.
Cost me a lot more money in popcorn though. 🙂
Luther Wu says: Something like, Mann still lost, no lawsuit no legal sweat, this week.
Ha! Kinda like, “Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.”