This tiff started because of this story by Tom Nelson yesterday, followed by this today. This post is my first involvement as all this happened without my involvement or comment until now. I don’t even care that I wasn’t mentioned, but I do care when I’m libeled.
I have just one thing to say to you, Mr. Zivkovic:
Prove your assertion of “gaming” led to an undeserved win, or retract it and issue an apology.
Perhaps it doesn’t occur to Mr. Zivkovic that Scientific American’s readership is on decline, just like those opinion polls that show people thinking AGW is a serious problem. People are getting turned off to SciAm partly because of ridiculous and hateful things like this being said on the part of the current crop of of writers and editors running SciAm.
And they wonder why people don’t like the magazine like they used to.
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About Bora Zivkovic
Born in Belgrade, Yugoslavia (now Serbia), Bora was always interested in animals and nature. His studies in veterinary medicine were interrupted by the 1990s war in the Balkans, when he arrived in the USA. He went to graduate school at North Carolina State University where he studied how bird brains measure time of day (circadian rhythms) and time of year (photoperiodism). He started ‘A Blog Around The Clock’ in 2004. He teaches introductory biology to non-traditional students at North Carolina Wesleyan College, organizes the annual ScienceOnline conference, and edits Open Laboratory – the annual anthology of the best writing on science blogs.
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Perhaps I’ll start considering the fall of Scientific American a two step function process.
The first was when a hoard of newer, flashier magazines distracted advertisers away from the quality magazine it has been for decades. That led to the sale to a German company and the quality simply collapsed and political/military policy issues replaced holograms and electrophoresis.
The second step may have a harder date to pin down, I probably stopped subscribing before then, and I’ll need readers’ help to pin that down, if indeed it there is an event. When did SciAm branch away from military policy to their current activist role? Did that happen with the fall of the Soviet Union and their need to find an new topic to blather on about? Is it more recent and is the global warming bandwagon they jumped on and are now trying to drive?
Wikipedia might have the answers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_American says in part:
Does this mean the glory days were 1948-1986, and the second step down in 2008? 2008 must be too late – Wiki’s photo is of a 2005 cover “Did Humans Stop an Ice Age?” The Wiki warticle also includes:
So the second step must precede 2002.
That’s the problem with being a liar, you assume everyone else is a liar. We have all seen the gaming techniques of the warmist team, no wonder they don’t trust anyone else.
I have had a similar experience in the uk reading newscientist that many of the other commenters are reporting with the editorial changes at SciAm.
brennan says:
July 16, 2012 at 10:52 am
“he studied… bird brains”
Using a mirror, no doubt.
That made me chuckle.
Something terribly sad has been going on in the Western science culture for a couple of decades. For Marxists and their philosophic offspring, the Post Normal Scientists, totally everything in life, even the Truth, is political. Totally, as in totalitarian. To lie in service to the movement or the cause is as noble for the Post Normal Scientist as it is for an Islamic to lie in service to Islam. To lie in such a manner is sanctified and cleansing of guilt.
The advance of CAGW is a subset, or “submovement”, of the whole movement of Post Normal Science, which itself is part of a movement working to undermine what we understand to be the norms of Western Civilization. Such norms include such notions as honorable people do not lie, even in service of a cause. Such norms include Science as a process for approximating objective truth through empirical testing of plausible hypotheses.
For the Marxist or Post Normal Scientists, “Truth” is a social construct to be “deconstructed”, not a reality to be sought through the scientific method. CAGW is just one facet of this grander process.
2002. Bjorn Lomborg. I simply couldn’t believe what I was seeing as I read through their treatment of Bjorn Lomborg. It was so far below any ethical examination of his thesis that it took me some hours to believe they had really done that.
But in the end I couldn’t deny it. The evidence was right there in my hands. That’s when I banned Scientific American from my life.
Then I washed my hands. Thoroughly.
Oh man, I have to include this. The great thing about SciAm is top notch scientists wrote articles about new discoveries distilling a few years’ of technical journal articles into something that brought intelligent lay people up to speed. So, I was going to look for a list of titles and authors figuring that might show the transistion to what it is now. Wiki had a link to the Cato Institute’s reaction to the Lombord excoriation. An interesting flock of names:
The only unfamiliar name to me is Bongaarts.
I should get back to work for a bit, but I think a list of titles and authors would be good. SciAm used to print a great index. I wonder if there’s something on the web.
I used to read every edition of SA and had a stack of them in my closet several feet high.
I quit reading them in the mid 1980’s and 1990’s when they started pushing anti-nuclear opinion pieces that were nothing but PR and sales pitches with out even an attempt to be accurate. At the time I was also working in a related field and knew first hand they were peddling BS, so I reluctantly quit buying them on site, and started “reviewing” them at the news stand. My ratio of purchase rapidly declined to the point I was only finding one issue a year that had anything worth buying in it. At that point I did not even bother to open them on the news stand any more.
I check out an edition about once every 2 years now and have never failed to find it is just a rag and shadow of its former self. I do wonder how they will cover the 100 years ago feature in 2100, as they explain the total crap they were spewing as we crossed into this century.
Larry
I used to read SciAm when I was bored at university. I started with the 1890 era and worked forwards in time. Nothing has changed. The articles and ads are still remarkably similar.
This is an amazingly revealing thread, with very visceral truths in some comments.
Anthony, the real effect of “Birdbrain” Bora’s smear is to see you unofficially elevated to the rank equivalent to what the editor of Scientific American was once, before rot set in.
Nothing Bora says can undo the evidence of the migration of so many SA veterans that is visible here.
I notice that page 3 of the July 4th 2012 ex-scientific magazine New Scientist starts an article with the words “Global warming denialists……..”
“… but I do care when I’m libeled”
Can we expect a court case ? I would be great publicity for WUWT.
The all pervasive rise in political correctness, the new age doctrine reincarnating socialist inspired equality, ensures all opinions are treated equal, irrespective of scientific merit, and most importantly, it is very very impolite to say “NO, that’s scientifically questionable,” when commenting upon an individual or collective belief for fear of inflicting any number of states of diminution, reflective of the intense individual or collective personalisation of perspective. ‘Denial’ or challenge of the collective belief or ‘mission statement’ is a heinous ‘sin’. From this point of view therefore, magazines and journals will not be perceived to ‘sin’. Scientific American, New (Age) Scientist, et al. all conform nicely. It also forgives those towing the party political line when they dispense ‘ad homs’. They argue from a displaced sense of righteousness.
Lots of folks here seem to have tolerated the decline of Scientific American for quite a while after it tanked. The date was 1984 when Gerard Piel turned the publishing and editing jobs over to his nincompoop son Jonathan. He lasted two years before the magazine was sold to the Holtzbrinck group in Germany. They have done nothing to restore the magazine’s former glory since then.
I have been coasting with SciAm for a few years based on the dictum of Sun Tzu — “Know your enemy.” One has to hold one’s nose, mostly. Still there are some decent articles when they do not deal with climate, sustainability, oceans, atmosphere, water, land, sea ice, land ice, ice cream, carbon based fuels, nuclear energy, polar bears, penguins, seals, wolves, spotted owls, wombats, . . ., and/or zebras.
Oh, and Anthony, that check never arrived for the vote. Just kidding!
An ex-subscriber here, too. Also – to my great sadness – an ex-subscriber to Sky & Telescope, for many of the same reasons.
For all their sensationalism, Scientific American have, at least, always taken the scientific position.
And that is the most important thing that you can do.
Anyone have any figures for SciAm circulation and its presumed decline?
RE Scientific American
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Circulation since 1981 down ~ 31%
Circulation in 1981 was 705,124 (“Was There Really a Popular Science “Boom”?” by Bruce V. Lewensteín, Spring 1987, Popular Science)
http://bit.ly/NE1p5B
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Circulation in 2007: 604,924
Circulation in 2011: 484,061
2010 – 2011 Rate of Change : -19.9%
ABC Trend Analysis of Total Paid & Verified Circulation
http://bit.ly/NP5gAI
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Total Paid Circ: 397,260 (of which 10,372 are digital)
Total Paid & Verified Subscriptions: 420,260
Total Paid & Verified Circulation: 491,255
Scientific American, Audti Bureau of Circulations, for six months ended December 31, 2011
http://bit.ly/NP5gAI (previous link)
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Here’s a list of the top 100 magazines by circulation in the US (Caution: Wikipedia):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_magazines_by_circulation#United_States
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“Scientific American magazine has resigned from membership in the Audit Bureau of Circulation, one of the most important organizations in the print advertising field.” NYT 1 Feb 1982
http://www.nytimes.com/1982/02/01/business/advertising-magazine-quits-auditing-body.html
Two years ago they conducted a survey of their subscribers and their opinions on AGW. The results are quite interesting:
http://rogerhelmermep.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/scientific-american-readers-survey-rejects-warmism/
I read Sci Am regularly and had a subscription until about 1980. It seemed every issue had an article on the horrors of nuclear winter. I got tired of being preached to and let my subscription run out. The Amateur Scientist was my favorite part.
Sci Am = Nat Geo = worthless, in current political agenda state.
stopped reading both way long ago !
So many formerly great publications have been ruined by political correctness..It really is sad.
This is marginally related, but here goes….
I began watching a National Geographic program this weekend. The program was a full one hour long, and it was about a whale which exploded on transit by truck to a scientific labaratory in Japan. The entire one hour program was dedicated to “forensically” determining exactly what caused the whale carcass to explode. There were a couple of photos from the original incident, but many more phony looking “re-enactments” of blood and organs flying around for dramatic effect.
What a complete waste of time and resources. Thankfully, my time was not wasted as I was watching out of the corner of my eye while working on my laptop.
I would simply ask for a retraction. I have mixed feelings about asking for apologies because most of the apologies I see in print aren’t sincere. I don’t know what the point of an apology is if they don’t really mean it. The retraction is important though since if it isn’t forthcoming, someone may use that comment since it comes from a writer from a well known magazine.
To answer the question about why people don’t sue over defamation, libel or slander is that it is enormously expensive. Courts in the U.S. don’t always award attorney’s fees even if you win. Rather, I think Anthony is smart to note his displeasure here so it is documented that he took issue with it. I take anything on twitter with a grain of salt, as I do with most everything on the internet.
However, with demise of once thoughtful magazines, it seems there would be a market for scientific articles without the politics.
As for gaming the blogging awards, I’d guess that votes are roughly proportionate to the readership of each. That assumes that each blogger is notified of the nomination and that each conveys that to their readers. In which case everybody “gamed” the system. I don’t know if he followed up on the tweet to explain his comment, but it would be fun to see if he did.
Lucy Skywalker says:
July 16, 2012 at 2:59 pm
This is an amazingly revealing thread, with very visceral truths in some comments….
Nothing Bora says can undo the evidence of the migration of so many SA veterans that is visible here.
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You nailed it Lucy, Scientifically inclined people have voted with their feet and migrated to WUWT, ClimateAudit, Bishophill, JoanneNova and the other great sites now on the web.