I’m caught up in Mothers day duties as well as reviewing data for a new paper, so please talk quietly amongst yourselves and don’t make me come back here.
For those going to the Heartland ICCC7 in Chicago, I’ll be there and I propose a Tuesday evening informal meetup. Leave a comment if you are interested. – Anthony
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At least one has the gumption to call Hansen on his crazy.
“U.S. Govt Scientist vs. U.S. Govt Scientist: NOAA’s Hoerling turns on NASA’s Hansen: ‘Facts should, and do, matter’ — Hansen is ‘intent to instill fear rather than reason’ – Claims ‘patently false'”
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/05/12/hoerling-to-hansen-facts-do-matter-to-some-people/
Happy Mother’s Day, Y’all!
“and don’t make me come back here” <– Anthony is channeling the Kids Table at family gatherings?
This caught my eye and deserves a read:
Environmental Extremism:
backgrounding:
California’s ‘Fishy’ Water Problem
http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000080107&play=1
An area the size of the State of Rhode Island will not be planted this year in just one region of California due to the lack of water. Part of the issue relates to fresh water that’s being diverted by Court order to protect the Delta Smelt. The bigger issue relates to the lack of desalination plants.
The Zetas And The Surfriders
Extremism In Defense Of Environmentalism Can Be A Catastrophic Vice.
http://hbfreshwater.com/uncategorized/the-zetas-and-the-surfriders
excerpt:
If the country has so hamstrung itself with regulatory process and tolerance for greens gaming the system that public agencies responsible for the water supply think that contending with the Zetas in Mexico is a more attractive option than contending with the Surfrider Foundation in California, are we facing an environmental crisis of existential proportions — or a governance crisis of existential proportions?
http://www.justice.gov/usao/pam/news/2012/Grimes_01_31_2012.htm
Thought this was interesting. Got to both NIH and NSF but looks like he’s going to pay for it.
Thanks, E.M.Smith 🙂 My daughters were the biggest challenge in my life and the greatest satisfaction. They grew up to be women I’m proud to call my friends.
Kirk Sorensen 2 h Molten Salt Reactor, Thorium, reposting this here because it’s the best video about it I’ve seen so far. Near the end, the ongoing attempts of the Chinese to build a LFTR are mentioned.
Anthony wrote, ” please talk quietly amongst yourselves and don’t make me come back here.”
::taking frog out of pocket and letting it hop down the aisle…::
;>
MJM
Solar variation has a much stronger effect on climate than prominent warmists and prominent commenters on prominent climate sites would have you believe.
Thanks, pwl.
“Those who continue to talk in certain terms of how local weather extremes are the result of human climate change are failing to heed all the available evidence.”
So true.
I’m surprised that anyone listens to the alarmists at all any more. I’m beginning to wonder if it’s only the media that believes in CAGW (we know the politicians don’t, they’re just using that to control the people).
I tell you, the people are ready the world over for the media to start investigating the con and the fraud behind the scaremongering. You’d think they’d notice sales of newspapers dropping off. You’d think they’d want to deliver the sort of news people will get excited about.
We’ve had the excitement of “scare”, it doesn’t excite anymore, in fact it’s getting downright boring. Can we now please have the excitement of “exposure”, discovery of all the facts, and a good sprinkling of court cases to juice up the “Now we’ve got to put things right!” message.
From Christopher Booker’s column:-
“Someone whom I was delighted to meet again in Australia was Professor Ian Plimer, a prominent “climate sceptic”, who is one of Abbott’s advisers (Australian opposition leader). In his latest entertaining book, How To Get Expelled From School (by asking the teachers 101 awkward scientific questions about their belief in global warming), Plimer cites a vivid illustration of how great is the threat posed to the planet by man-made CO2.
“If one imagines a length of the Earth’s atmosphere one kilometre long, 780 metres of this are made up of nitrogen, 210 are oxygen and 10 metres are water vapour (the largest greenhouse gas). Just 0.38 of a metre is carbon dioxide, to which human emissions contribute one millimetre. Australia’s share of this is 0.015 of a millimetre, the breadth of a human hair………”
Link for Booker’s column:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/9261122/Keeping-the-country-short-of-water-is-now-government-and-EU-policy.html
Agree with everything Christopher Booker says, he’s a one-man Campaign for Real Science.
Something though that people in the UK don’t say about the drought. Over and above all the leakage in the water systems, our immigration controls here are so lax that we don’t know what the population of our own country is because we don’t know the true number of illegal immigrants. No wonder the water’s running out!
There was a ‘certain workshop’ held this week in Bern, Switzerland. I have no idea what went on there, but do sincerely hope that the participants were kinder to each other than those on a display in the Bern cathedral.
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/switzerland/images/bern/munster/resized/d80_a_174.jpg
Quotes, A War Against Humanity:
“The planet is about to break out with fever, indeed it may already have, and we [humans] are the disease. We should be at war with ourselves and our lifestyles.” –Thomas Lovejoy, Smithsonian Institution
“The only real good technology is no technology at all. ” -John Shuttleworth, Mother Earth News
“An ecocatastrophe is taking place on earth…..discipline, prohibition, enforcement and oppression are the only solution. [And those most responsible should] be sent to the mountains for re-education in eco-gulags… The sole glimmer of hope lies in a centralised government and the tireless control of citizens.” — Pentti Linkila, Finnish Ecologist
“It is a campaign not for abundance but for austerity. It is a campaign not for more freedom but for less. Strangest of all, it is a campaign not just against other people, but against ourselves.” — George Monbiot, British Ecojournalist
The comments of James Hansen directed to President Obama were the subject of several comments in Slashdot.org, which is a blog for people interested in computing. Slashdot is usually quite skeptical, but I don’t think they have benefited from the work on this website. I was especially chagrined to read the comments, which assume that the propositiion that AGW is causing climate dislocations has been established. Here are the materials to which I refer.
http://politics.slashdot.org/story/12/05/12/0451228/nasas-hansen-calls-out-obama-on-climate-change
I would be interested in any suggestions as to how to respond to this.
Us skeptics are frequently accused of not caring about Nature. A false accusation of course. I recommend that all WUWT readers go to the Decorah Eagle bird cam and watch our National Bird raise their family of three eaglets. You will not be sorry.
tallbloke says:
May 13, 2012 at 2:11 pm
Solar variation has a much stronger effect on climate than prominent warmists and prominent commenters on prominent climate sites would have you believe.
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I’ll grant you the prominent warmists, but outside of skeptical sites, I am not really aware of any Other ‘prominent’ climate sites, although I have heard faints cries of anguish from such places as ‘real’climate…
Water has memory?
Salt effected by sound:
I’m excited about the upcoming solar eclipse on Sunday, May 20.
http://www.nature.nps.gov/features/eclipse/wheretoview.cfm
I just wonder is anyone will blame the solar eclipse on increasing CO2 levels. :-))
I really would like an answer to this question: Why isn’t the heat direct from the Sun included in the AGW energy budget?
Why is it missing, why has no one noticed it is missing?
Water, is a transparent medium for visible light. Transparent means that visible light is not absorbed. It is not absorbed but transmitted through. Transmitted through because it is not absorbed.
Transmitted through – which is what AGW energy budget cartoon says visible light is in the atmosphere – but – the atmosphere is not transparent to visible light in the real world, the electrons of the molecules of oxygen and nitrogen absorb visible light, and bounce it back out – blue being more energetic gets bounced around more, hence our blue sky.
Visible light works on the electronic transition scale, not molecular vibrational.
Visible light is tiny. The electrons of the molecules of nitrogen and oxygen bounce it around and so it isn’t powerful enough to bounce around the molecules., and it’s pretty much useless even when captured in photovoltaic cells to make electricity…
But, water is really transparent to visible light, the electrons of the molecules of water do not absorb visible light, but transmit it through without being absorbed. Transmitted is a technical term in optics. And, visible light does not have the power – as from the Sun – don’t confuse yourself with lasers here, the Sun isn’t a laser, visible light does not have the power to move the whole molecule of water into vibration which is what it takes to heat it up. So, it doesn’t heat the oceans.
But – where is the missing heat in the energy budget? Why have you taken out the real heat direct from the Sun?
Thermal infrared does have the power to heat water, it moves the molecules into vibrational states. Just as when you rub your hands together the mechanical energy you are using moves the molecules in your skin into vibrational states, and heats the skin up. visible light from the Sun can’t do this – it doesn’t heat matter, heat direct from the Sun can and does.
The pavement gets hot because the invisible heat, thermal infrared, direct from the Sun heats it up. Why isn’t it in your energy budget? Because you’ve called it ‘backradiation’?
The heat we feel direct from the Sun is the actual Sun’s heat that is radiating out to us, the invisible thermal infrared. Just as the heat you feel from a fire or from a hot pavement is actual heat radiating out to us.
That’s not visible light or uv or near infrared radiating out from a hot pavement, but thermal infrared, longwave. Why isn’t this direct heat from the Sun in the energy budget?
I find it astonishing that you don’t use this in your arguments with Hansen and Mann and Trenberth…
michaeljmcfadden, I don’t think Mae West would confuse having a jumpy frog in your pocket in lieu of a banana.
Now if Anthony will just turn out the lights, close the door, and walk away the party can begin!
Amino Acids in Meteorites says:
May 13, 2012 at 3:27 pm
“Water has memory?”
Nice pictures; the guy talks pretty esoteric BS though. He should have repeated the experiments in the dark.
Dr Gerald Pollack. 2008
Photonic energy induces charge separation in water; leading to layer formation near surfaces. This is a much more prominent effect than heating the water by photons.
The Chicago Sun-Times newspaper (circulation of 422,335), deposited its daily dose of bad news upon my driveway apron again this morning (Sunday).
The fact it was Mother’s Day didn’t rate a mention till page 24a (titled “commentary” with two articles under the heading “other views”).
The first article was headlined “Let moms just enjoy their special day”, the second was “Today’s GOP: You can’t reason with crazy”.
The second article showed the Heartland billboard, and ended with this:
“Crazy can’t be reasoned with. Only defeated”.
Here’s the link:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherviews/12471883-452/todays-gop-you-cant-reason-with-crazy.html
The new Calvinists:
It seems to me that, even if one could build a completely carbon neutral perpetual motion machine from, say, the energy of “empty” space, there would be a greenie wienie filing a lawsuit to halt the deployemnt and utilization of it.
Amino Acids in Meteorites says:
May 13, 2012 at 3:27 pm
Water has memory?
That’s quite amazing. None of this homeopathy ‘memory’ which is what I confess I was expecting. There seems to be quire a lot about water that has been overlooked. After coming across the video posted here: http://diggingintheclay.wordpress.com/2012/04/01/shedding-new-light-on-clouds/ I woud even venture we have fundamentally overlooked properties that have real, practical importance.