Guest post by WUWT moderator Andi Cockroft
This has little to do with my beliefs (or otherwise) in CAGW, but more to the fact that I am tight with money and this project offers the ability to run my 5 litre SUV for free ! Please note however, this is only suitable for Petrol/Gasoline Engines – most definitely NOT for diesels
Now I should also state that I live on a block of “Native Bush” (read indigenous trees) in New Zealand, so I have a carbon sink of my very own. I also have access to an almost unlimited supply of pine from plantation operations where logging operations leave huge amounts of uneconomic timber behind – myself and several hundred souls benefit from this bountiful resource to heat our homes in winter.
Now I want to run my SUV on it as well.
So what is “Producer Gas”? Well our dear friends over at Wikipedia have an overview here. Unfortunately it is long on references, but short on detail.
So, I will define what I mean by Producer Gas, as a combination of various gasses obtained by “cooking” dry wood. Heat it enough, without burning it, and it will give off a mixture of primarily Carbon Monoxide and Methane – plus a few nasty bi-products such as tar etc. What remains we know as charcoal.
There are many different mechanisms for manufacturing Producer Gas, most concentrate these days on stationary platforms – however they are just as easily made for mobile use aboard a vehicle.
This image of a Ford Truck conversion, (courtesy of Per Larsson’s Museum) shows one of the many ways it can be achieved – here strapped onto the side of the truck.
Note the extra radiator in front, required to cool the Producer Gas after its manufacture by “cooking” – internal combustion engines work better with cooler fuels (think of this as an inter-cooler).
But looking at this doesn’t really gel with the aesthetics I want to achieve for my SUV – so how can it be done that bit better?
Let’s just look at how Producer Gas is made.
There are different designs, and I have researched many over the years I have been contemplating this project – brought to a head now simply by exorbitant fuel prices. Here is my preference for a “Stratified Downdraft Gassifier”
OK, so how do we convert our fuel (pine for me) into Producer Gas?
Here courtesy of http://www.gengas.nu/byggbes/index.shtml is the version I choose to build. On the right is the main Gassifier – here’s where all the magic happens – but do visit their site, it is a goldmine of information.
Wood Fuel in the form of dried pellets of wood (about 1” cube) are stacked in the hopper at the top, and feed under gravity into the fire tube. At the base of the tube is a dish or grate riddled with air-holes – much like a colander. Both the fire tube, and the grate must be made of pretty heat tolerant material such as stainless steel. We need a small opening in the Gassifier so we can actually set fire to the material in the grate – and for reasons we will see later, this will normally have charcoal in it.
But before we set fire to things, note the other components. In the middle is a filter unit that can be of many designs, but meant primarily to prevent nasty stuff such as tar reach our engine, Use sawdust, oil, water or sand to trap the stuff you don’t want, and then our gas heads off to the left to be mixed with air and on into our engine.
You may notice there are actually 2 throttle controls – one the master throttle, the other to control air. This is OK for an engine that will run at constant speed such as a generator, but for a vehicle it would be far better if these could be linked together – something I am working on right now.
OK, before we can start our engine, we need to light our Gassifier. Easily done, with some charcoal in the grate, add a little lighter fuel if you feel brave, and light it. At the same time, note the provision of a blower – this is only used during this phase to get air flowing into the Gassifier from above, provide oxygen to the charcoal on the grate and start the process rolling.
I am told to expect 10 to 15 minutes for this to begin – but note THIS IS CARBON MONOXIDE – DO NOT DO THIS IN A CONFINED SPACE.
Also, you should include springs to hold the lid firmly on the Gassifier – not welded on. Just in case of a back-fire, the lid will momentarily lift, allow the built-up gasses to escape, then reseal itself.
My plan is to add a spark-plug to the funnel, so I can ignite the gas with ease. Once it is burning with a very pale blue flame then we can look to start the engine – just turn off the blower first.
It has been suggested that starting with petrol/gasoline and then switching to Producer Gas is far easier – but we will see.
The beauty of this design is that the production of gas is totally dependent on demand – ie the suction provided by the engine – put your foot down and it will draw and manufacture more gas. Ease off and it will slow down. And best of all, turn the engine off and it will simply go out – but that takes another 10-15 minutes, so restarting in that time should be just a matter of turning the ignition key.
I am in the process of building the Gassifier right now, and I have a pickup SUV, where I can mount the Gassifier outside on the back and run all that plumbing outside the cab as well. I will keep you apprised of my progress.
I am also working on a stationary engine coupled to a 20Kw alternator that will not only supply all my needs, but allow me to sell the excess (at 3x retail) back onto the grid – heck if they pay subsidies to windmills, then why not to me!
Up until now, I have only mentioned pine as a fuel source, but depending on where you live, you could use left-overs from many agricultural products – corn stalks, sugar cane, coconut husks – even coal if you really want to.
Also on the design-table is a device to take large pieces of pine and chop them into the ideal sizes required – and if I can run that directly of the engine, I just about have perpetual motion – well at least motion at zero cost.
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We did this in Rhodesia during the era of sanctions. Several farmers ran their tractors using a small gas producer bolted on the front. The problem then was that liquid fuels were all imported and firewood and coal were locally available. It was good fun to watch the tractor driver stopping every half hour or so to throw some twigs into the producer and then carry on ploughing.
I was personally involved in the design and installation of larger , static, gas producers using coal. These were mainly used in the baking and food processing industries and also a paint baking line in our vehicle assembly plant.
It was all quite old technology but we added our own improvements . . . quite instructive as how people always respond to difficulties with innovation and resolve. In our case the shortage of liquid fuels was caused by the UN.
Good on ya. The reactor is the biggie. I know your issue is capital. But I do wonder if this in conjuction with a hydraulic hybrid might be the size compromise. With the webs help and the fact that Mother Earth News has gotten old articles online, here is what I was referring to.
http://www.motherearthnews.com/Green-Transportation/1978-03-01/This-Car-Travels-75-Miles-on-a-Single-Gallon-of-Gasoline.aspx
Gillian Lord says
There was something similar in Australia in WWII. We called them ‘charcoal burners’ and they were usually pulled behind a car.
An interesting alternative to the cycle advocated here is one that produces Biochar in lieu of Charcoal, Don’t know if the gas by products produced are combustible however.
Keith Battye says:
April 27, 2012 at 3:38 am
In our case the shortage of liquid fuels was caused by the UN.
I’m getting déjà vu here.
This is an interesting concept that I had not heard about before. I have a couple of questions:
1) How does the producer gas generated power efficiency compare with simply using a steam powered engine?
2) When a accident happens (not if), can the producer gas generation system be adequately “contained” or “protected” to prevent it from becoming a major safety hazard?
Good on ya. I know you are capital challenged. Going forward, I wonder if someone wanted to try a smaller reactor as hydraulic hybrid. I remember this from before time began. And Mother Earth News has put their old archives online (there is a small, low velocity hydro plant design I want to look up too!)
http://www.motherearthnews.com/Green-Transportation/1978-03-01/This-Car-Travels-75-Miles-on-a-Single-Gallon-of-Gasoline.aspx
With the hybrid, the scale and heat might be more user friendly? Of course a high pressure hydraulic leak at the gasifier would be the new definition of blow torch 🙂
As a fellow Kiwi, I give a wry smile … forget the look of the technology, praise the No.8-wire production. As another poster said … 1943 all over again!!
A guy I met in Leominster MA in the 1990’s ran his pick-up truck on chicken manure (methane)
I think he may have bought this kit.
For fuel, don’t overlook the sawdust. A pellet mill can make wood pellets for a wood stove or gasifier.
Reblogged this on gottadobetterthanthis and commented:
Interesting. I’m not taking the time to try to look up the statistics, but it would be interesting to know if these kinds of projects are actually catching on. There are lots of informative comments on the post. I doubt anyone will be happy with a producer gas system conversion unless they have freely available cellulose fuel (and a penchant to tinker). Like windmills, there are many good reasons these systems have never been first choice for motive power.
How much wood would a wood car burn if a wood car would burn wood?
These “Holzvergaser” were a familiar sight in Germany after WW2 up into the early 1950s to power physicians’ cars when no gasoline was available to civilians.
What? I thought Producer Gas had something to do with the movie industry.
Sounds a lot like town gas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_gas which was nice and cheap back in its heyday with just a few drawbacks (stunk, potentially deadly, etc)
This looks like a great system if you have a shortage of petroleum fuel. But we don’t have that problem just yet. maybe you should use your time campaigning against government regulations on carbon fuel.
I would suggest that you invest in some better materials for the burner section – while stainless steel is temperature resistant, it will oxidize at high temperatures – 316 in BBQ grills will rust (yes, rust) in about 3 years. Inconel isn’t cheap, but it lasts.
To start, get a small propane tank. You’re running a gas, with a different orifice and mix you can easily start and you don’t have spillage problems.
Look at using the heat exchanger as a heat source for a gas cycle refrigeration unit for in vehicle airconditioning – I grant you, you probably don’t need it in NZ, but those in parts of AUS will. It’s also a great source of BTUs on cold days, but I’m sure you’ve already thought of that.
Good luck!
http://gekgasifier.com/
These guys will sell you plans, or a complete kit on a pallet, whatever you feel like.
Combine that with a pellet burning furnace and you can run your world on wood.
“..I also have access to an almost unlimited supply of pine from plantation operations where logging operations leave huge amounts of uneconomic timber behind..”
It’s at this point my wry smile decided to appear. Onya! 😉
I support the reference to the efforts at GEK – California gas, you could call it. This is a first class and very recent initiative by Charlie Sellers and the team in California. There are many problems associated with running an ICE on wood gas and they are really doing a good job of sorting it out. They are promoting experimenter’s kits with free plans you can take to your laser cutting shop.
They have been so successful with their power plants that they are actually hiring people, if you have a technical bent. They recently hired one of the best known Stirling engine boffins from the UK which might lead in all sorts of directions.
For those following biomass energy check also Roger Samson’s work on switchgrass, he who has promoted native grass fuels for more than 20 years. There is more annually available energy (per hectare) from switchgrass than wood or bamboo as far as I hear. Pellets are available in Ontario, 5, 6.4 and 8mm.
Combine that with GEK products and you have California grass….
What about direct high pressure steam (10 t 20 MPa) into the cylinders of the SUV?
But I thought you were part of the well funded denialist machine.
/ SARC
@Gail Combs says:
April 27, 2012 at 4:55 am
A guy I met in Leominster MA in the 1990′s ran his pick-up truck on chicken manure (methane)
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“Chicken farmer Harold Bate discovered an eco-friendly way to power his car using decomposing chicken and pig manure as low-cost methane gas car fuel.”
http://www.motherearthnews.com/green-transporation/chicken-manure-car-fuel-zmaz71jazgoe.aspx
Best of luck with your project man. Here’s a youtube link to a guy who has taken the idea to the next level. Engineer775 has some very cool projects and I visit his channel a lot.
Heggs.
Phew. I thought you were going to talk about running your SUV on human produced gas for a minute there. Now that would be ‘tight’.