The “I Can Change Your Mind about Climate” website of the ABC TV in Australia reminds me of the famous phrase “your gonna get your mind right, Luke” from the 1967 classic movie “Cool Hand Luke” with Paul Newman:
The round1 voting, which I talked about here, is over, and the skeptics, listed as “dismissive”, well outnumbered the alarmists, looking to be 2 to 1, as seen in this Google cache image from Apr 26, 2012 11:50:33 GMT, ending with 19,900 votes counted:
Now, they profess to have changed people’s minds with their video and website, and Round 2 voting is open here…the alarmists have a lead.
So for those of you in Australia, no matter which side of the debate you are on, you can vote again.
For expats living abroad, you’ll need to remember your old Australian postcode to vote.
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UPDATE:
Jennifer Marohasy reports that according to Jo Nova, the video interview with the skeptic side mainly ended up on the cutting floor:
“We did 4 hours of footage at our house, and they showed not one single point I made, not one answer to Anna Rose’s questions. I repeated my favourite lines about 28 million weather balloons, 3000 ocean buoys off by heart at least 4 times [which show no global warming and therefore a mismatch between reality and theory]. Obviously everything I said was too ‘dangerous’. But we have the full tape of the whole event, so sooner or later the world will see the parts that the ABC deemed to be not ‘interesting’ to the Australian public. So all in all, pretty much as we expected. They trimmed it down to the point where it’s tame, they gave the alarmists the last word (they always do)…”
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Now In Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/apr/26/climate-change-sceptics-australian-tv-show
“TV show giving voice to climate sceptics is skewing evidence, scientists say
Australian documentary gives ‘misleading impression that the debate on the science of climate change is not settled”
2045 votes counted. Dismissive leads. Seems to be honest vote counting. Good for them.
Rather than a futile polling contest against 57000 wundwerkind, I would suggest leaving the poll to them. I would rather see dismissive drop from 60% to 10%. How convincing would that look?
The Delphi Technique. Create a false consensus by controlling information delivery and planting leading questions, and establishing a false consensus early on.
There are no “journalists,” only propagandists.
They’re only losing the poll because the public is overwhelmingly tired of the Chicken Little routine.
A number of friends texted me to alert me that the show was on. I decided that my time would be better spent in a karaoke bar.
Who controls the past now controls the future
Who controls the present now controls the past
Who controls the past now controls the future
Who controls the present now?
“They trimmed [the anti-Global Warming evidence] down to the point where it’s tame, they gave the alarmists the last word (they always do)…”
No, Jo, they gave the Global Warmists the last word, the first word, the middle word, most of the other words and I was surprised when they actually gave any air-time at all to the skeptics. And as for the disgraceful part at the 3/4’s point where the narrator started talking about how giving any air-time to “skeptics” was actually more of a problem than Global Warming is alleged to be.
The whole program confirmed to me one solid thing: Anyone who goes against the Gaian Religion will be forcefully shut down, while being ridiculed in the process.
I watched the show and it didn’t do too much to my blood pressure. I’d summarize it as, climate change meets reality TV. Not much in the way of science or even relevant information. Just the usual ‘sky is falling’ stuff.
I came away with the distinct impression that Nick Minchin was using the show to push some business interest of his in ‘renewable’ energy. Not that I blame him for that. Given the opportunity to game the lame-brains at the ABC, I’d probably do the same.
Gail Combs says:
You spell “strait” this way: straight
PPM stands for one part per million. [ One million (1000000) or one thousand thousand ] so that is a one divided by 1,000,000 = .000001 therefore 392 ppm is 392 times .000001 = .000392
Now I know how Bill Shorten feels.
Dismissive now well ahead. 2252 votes counted, including mine.
bunch of biased questions based on a supposition that Global Warming is happening and we should be doing something. I got dismissive, even though I said I didn’t know if Global Warming was happening – which I don’t, but not becuase I am apathetic, just that the data, such as it is, appears equivocal to me – but they didn’t have a box for that. As for the next questions on the causes of global warmng “assuming that global warming is happening” what are you supposed to answe then – The ABC is clearly a true believer.
Doesn’t make any difference that I’m not from Australia. I’m from Chicago. We can vote anywhere and as often as we like. Even the dead have the right to vote. It’s one of those special things about Chicago.
The Dismissives are well ahead now with 41%. And I didn’t need my old Oz postcode – not that I could remember any of them. Can’t even remember my current Canadian one.
Dismissive still.
Ciao
John
Don’t know why, but I cannot log in to take the poll and be dismissive
Alistair,
You have to click on the map of Australia. It takes some time before the cursor changes and allows you to click and get to the poll. That might be the problem.
Damn I’m Dismissive again. All that propaganda I read on WUWT is affecting me.
Currently
Dismissive 41%
Alarmed 28%
Concerned 16%
Doubtful 8%
Cautious 6%
Disengaged 1%
2403 votes counted
Alistair Pope says:
April 26, 2012 at 7:54 pm
Don’t know why, but I cannot log in to take the poll and be dismissive
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http://www.abc.net.au/tv/changeyourmind/survey/
So.. they upset both sides. Both looked like fools. TV cameras have a habit of doing just that.
Each have their window on the world. Both are narrow and cannot see the whole picture. If your mind is made up according to “your window” then this is just simply confirmation bias.
I stopped looking at the world through “my window” some six years ago when I went from a skeptic to understanding science beyond political bias and green movements. I now accept the fact that the world may enter a dangerous phase of climate disruption over the next 100 years and beyond.
So here I am some sort of Christian conservative at odds with colleagues, religious unsystematic agendas, politics and knowing what just bad science really is.
I am alienated and its not pleasant.
What do I do?
I actually await the world still gazing through their small windows. Take a fresh look at your world. Get out side. Study and talk to those you disagree with. Get away from web sites that just put a shine your window glass but does not take you by hand and show you a different window.
TV shows will not do that. You need to get up from your couch and begin to answer those difficult questions you have been putting off. You have allowed others to fill your confirmation bias for too long now.
The survey is essentially push polling for the alarmist cause. For example: I believe that climate change is real, but it’s has always been with us (history shows this.) Instead I’m only given the option in this to say I do believe in AGW (with various degrees) or that I straight out don’t. Again the ABC pushing their hard core left wing green agenda.
Ross Brisbane says:
“I stopped looking at the world through ‘my window’ some six years ago when I went from a skeptic…”
Six years ago you stopped being a skeptic. Skeptics are the only honest kind of scientists. So six years ago you had a religious conversion to climate alarmism.
How is that any different than believing in witch doctors?
The Dismissive are sure that global warming is not happening. You say the issue is not at all important to you personally and are not worried about it at all. You, however, say that you have thought about global warming and believe you are well-informed about the causes, consequences, and potential solutions – i.e., that there are none, because it doesn’t exist. You are very certain about your views, and are very unlikely to change your mind about the issue. Many of the Dismissive flatly reject the proposition that global warming is happening, while a majority believe that if global warming is happening, natural changes in the environment are the primary cause. Likewise, a majority believe there is a lot of disagreement among scientists over whether global warming is occurring, while over a fifth of the Dismissive believe there is a scientific consensus that global warming is not happening. You say that global warming will not harm you personally or future generations at all. Finally, you believe global warming will never harm people.
Too Funny… they dont get it.. at all..
Before the propaganda, the ABC screened a science programme called Catalyst. The 30minutes is broken into 3 segments, and, sure enough, to put you in the correct mood, the last segment was on trees dying world wide because of stress caused by, by,………(gasp).
http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/3488105.htm
Trying to be clever, they are tripping themselves up.
I’ve just voted, and I’m with 43% of other Australians in being dismissive. However, I dislike their categorisation. Their description says dismissive believes there is no global warming and my first answer said I believed there was. Then I said I believed it was natural…. so, despite the clear definition at the top the page, they clearly changed the definition part way through to make global warming to mean AGW.
As far as I can tell this survey allows an individual to submit multiple entries!!
I have NOW completed it 3 times! Each time the system appeared to have accepted my survey results using the same email address adn post code etc. No duplication notice was received…
I am very suspcious about this!! Can anyone assure me that multiple entries are filtered-out? How is that done – according to unique email address? And if I had multiple email addresses?
Has anyone else tried to see if they can submit multiple surveys…?