Many of you are probably aware of some strange goings on over at The National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) with their Arctic Sea ice graph, specifically, this one here:
You see, up until Tuesday morning, it looked like this:
If you have a keen eye, you might spot the difference, particularly in the proximity of the endpoint of the blue line to the 1979-2000 average line. How does sea ice extent go backwards you ask? Steve Goddard of real-science.com was first to spot it sent out an email notifying many people of his post titled: Breaking News : NSIDC Gets In The Data Tampering Act. I wasn’t convinced there was deliberate tampering going on, because it seemed to me to have all the marks of a processing glitch or something similar, and I made that fact known to many last night.
The two graphs (before and after on April 16th) overlaid look like this:
So not only did the extent change, going backwards, so did the climatology for computing the 2007 line and the 1979-2000 average line. This all came to light about 6PM PST Tuesday night. There was no announcement of this change on NSIDC’s website then.
While it would be easy to start pointing fingers, especially with the timing of the change (right before the extent line looked to cross the average line), I decided the best course of action would be to start asking questions before writing anything.
So I fired off emails to NSIDC’s Dr. Walt Meier and Julianne Stroeve. Strove responded first, within the hour, indicating that she could not see anything wrong, sending the image from NSIDC’s “internal network”, which is the middle graph above. That’s when I sent her the overlay (the bottom image combining the internal image she sent and the web page output image), showing that indeed there was something wrong. The light bulb went on. Walt Meier (who was traveling) responded about an hour later, with this speculation:
Hi Anthony,
Thanks for letting us know. I have a guess at what this might be.
We’re starting to make some changes to our processing to update/improve things, including some you’ve suggested. One thing that we’ve decided to do is to change the way we calculate our 5-day average values. We’ve been doing it as a centered average – i.e., a given day’s value in the plot is actually an average of that day + 2 days before and 2 days after. This caused an issue at the end point because we’d extrapolate to get a 5-day average on the last day, which resulted in wiggles at the end that.
We’re now changing it to be a trailing 5-day average, i.e., a given day’s value in the plot is the average of that day and the 4 preceding days. This will take out the wiggle in the end of the plot (or most of it – there may be some change as sometimes we don’t get complete data and need to interpolate, and later (a day or two) we do get the data and process it.
A key point is that this change doesn’t actually change the data at all; in effect it simply shifts values two days later. In other words, the centered value for Day X is the same as the trailing value for Day X+2.
This change has been implemented in our test environment and we were going to roll it out some time in near future after we tested it for a bit we planned to announce the change. I think that by accident the test code got put into production. I’d need to confirm this, but from the plot differences, this looks like what likely happened.
We’ll look into this and get back to you. I’m traveling tomorrow, but will send a note to people and I or others will get back to you as soon as we can.
walt
That seemed plausible to me, but clearly, both Meier and Strove were caught off guard, and having prominent skeptics alerting you that your most watched public output has gone haywire certainly can’t be comfortable. But, I run a bunch of servers making automated output myself, and I know how things happen. So I gave them the benefit of the doubt, particularly since they were communicating and concerned themselves.
This morning, about 14 hours after the problem was first noticed, this news item appeared on NSIDC’s web site:
Click the image for the story.
That still didn’t explain why Meier and Stroeve were blindsided with news last night from Steve Goddard and I. I queried them more, and as it turns out, they were out of the loop on the implementation. The hand and foot of NSIDC didn’t seem to have coordination on this, and it went online with no notice. Tonight, I got this email from Dr. Walt Meier that explained it:
Hi Steve, Anthony,
I think you’ve probably heard from Julienne and seen the posts we’ve made. But now that I have a chance to respond, I’ll add a few words of explanation and some thoughts. If you want to post these, you’re welcome to.
Thank you to both of you for noticing the issue and bringing it to our attention. Let me clarify (in case it’s not already clear) and provide some context. We are well aware that the daily timeseries plot, as we call it, is closely watched, particularly during the summer melt season. We’ve received various critiques of the plot, which we have taken under consideration to change when we got resources to do it. One them was the “wiggle” in the last two days of the plot. The plot was initially, and by and large still is, meant to provide a simplified glimpse of sea ice extent. The focus was on creating a clean, clear, easy to read, easy to understand graphic. As seen in other plots, the extent is often fairly noisy from day to day. Some of that variation reflects real changes, but much of it is due to limitations in the accuracy of the data or short-term weather effects, such as storm front blowing the ice one direction or another for a short period of time.
Thus, to reduce the noise and better reflect the seasonal trends we decided to use a 5-day average (5 days is a reasonable, though arbitrary, time period to reduce synoptic effects). We chose a centered average because that seemed the most logical. This means the average value is always 2 days behind the latest extent value. However, people wanted to see “today’s” value. So, we decided to provide preliminary values for those last two days by using a simple linear extrapolation. When we got enough data for a full centered 5-day average, we replaced that with the final values. However, this means that the values for the last two days change and one can get a “wiggle” in the data, particularly where there is a day or two of steep change because that day or two gets extrapolated out to 5 days. This can be misleading because, at least for a day or two, the slope may look more extreme than it really is.
I think you’re both familiar with this because it’s been commented on in the past, but I provide the background again for the full context. We refrained from changing it because of three reasons. First, after initial confusion, people understood it, so changing it could cause more confusion. Second, changing the averaging method would slightly change things in comparison with our previous analyses, namely, the date when minimum and maximum extents occur (a shift of two days). This is a minor change, but could cause some confusion. And finally, third, we wanted to make a few other changes and needed to plan resources to do them, so we put this on the list of things to do.
Last week we started to work on some changes. This was simply planning – looking at our processing, assessing what needed to be change. In the process, it was noted that changing the 5-day average would be simpler than we expected and could be done quickly. So I gave the go ahead to do this and was informed a couple days later that it had been done. However, there was some miscommunication. I was expecting that we wouldn’t put it into production immediately, but our developers assumed that it was good to go, so it went into production. Though the change had been discussed amongst all of us, the decision to do it right away happened fairly quickly and I don’t think Julienne was aware that it was in the process of being done.
In any event, what we have now implemented is a 5-day trailing average – in other words, the value plotted for a day is the average of that day and the four previous days. What this means is that there should no longer be a little. The data that we plot on a day should not change and we won’t be doing extrapolation. We think this is a better way to display the data and I think most would agree.
Another issue that wasn’t immediately noticed was that the climatology shifted more than the daily. This is because the climatology used a 9-day average. I don’t remember exactly why this was chosen, but I believe it was to make it look just a bit cleaner, though since it is an average, it already is pretty smooth. And since we were using a centered average, 5-day vs. 9-day, makes little difference. For example, the 5-day average for April 17 is 14.797 million sq km and the 9-day average is 14.801, a difference of 0.004 (4,000 sq km). Effectively, there is no difference because we estimate the precision to be on the order of 0.05 (50,000 sq km). So as long as both the daily and the climatology used a centered average, there was a consistent comparison.
However, when the centered average is moved to a trailing average there is a relative change between the 5-day daily, which slides 2 days, and the 9-day climatology, which slides 4 days. Thanks to Steve for noticing this and pointing it out. We should have it changed to a 5-day by tomorrow so that the comparison plot will again be consistent.
As for the timing of this, as mentioned above, it was mostly simply due to opportunity – we had a chance to make the change, so we decided to do it. Also, knowing that we’re heading toward the summer melt season, it was advantageous to make the change sooner rather than later. As the extent line steepens going through spring and into summer, the “wiggle” is often more noticeable. So making the change now would remove the issue for this summer’s melt season.
The fact that we made this change as the daily extent was nearing the average was entirely coincidental. It never actually entered my mind because I didn’t think it would make any difference (and it shouldn’t once we implement a 5-day average for the climatology). In fact, the change should help because we won’t be using extrapolation that can misleadingly make lines on the plot look closer than what the data really indicate.
Even using a 5-day average, short-term changes in the extent should be taken with some caution. It would be interesting if we did match or exceed the climatology, simply because it’s been several years since it happened. However, the ice near the edge now is all seasonal ice and quite thin and will melt fairly quickly. Any anomaly now will have little to no effect on the summer extent or the amount and thickness of multiyear ice.
As a final, personal note let me make a more general comment. I am saddened that some people have become so cynical about climate scientists and climate data. I can appreciate that scientists have brought some this on themselves. And of course, a healthy dose of skepticism is essential to science. But it is disappointing to see people immediately jump to conclusions and assume the worst. I hope people will take from this explanation that NSIDC, and scientists in general, are working hard to the best we can, both in understanding the science and communicating it. We’re not perfect, we make mistakes. When we find them or hear of them, we try to fix them as quickly as we can and to explain what happened as best we can. I’m proud of our team for working very hard today to address the issues, fix them, and answer questions. I think they did a great job today. And in my experience with other climate scientist, I’ve seen nothing other than that same level of dedication.
Thank you,
Walt Meier
So in a nutshell, NSIDC made a goof in implementation, and in communications. I could find all sorts of criticism for that, but I think they are probably punishing themselves far more than anything critical I might say, so I’ll just let the incident speak for itself.
I will say this though, I can’t even begin to fault them for being upfront and quickly communicative. That is a rare trait in a government agency, so on that basis, they get high marks from me, as well as my thanks. I’m fully satisfied with the explanation.
On Thursday, we’ll likely see this problem rectified, and this time I’m pretty sure I’ll get an email in advance or at the time it happens. I look forward to seeing the changes. On the plus side Dr. Meier tells me that they plan to make the raw extent data available, and that will of course allow us to plot ourselves.
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UPDATE: 4/19 9AM PST NSIDC has the new corrected graph online – see this story
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As someone who is not at all involved in the field and is simply observing everything from the bleachers, I have to say that there is something that bothers me and this graph is a perfect example.
It seems to me that the variations we are talking about, day to day, year to year and decade to decade are so small that they fall well within the margin of error of any statistical device.
It’s like looking a poll that shows Obama up one point and the next day Romney up one point with a margin of error in the poll of two points. It is essentially useless.
But, that’s just me I guess.
I think Dr Meier provided a credible and complete explanation for the graphical differences. Good job to all three of you!
However, if he really wants to improve climate science & scientists credibility, he needs to start a campaign to force Dr Hansen to stop manipulating historical temperature data and return to the pre-2000 data ( specifically the 1910-1990 data) on all of the GISS US & world temperature graphs. Failure to do so means he is complicit in the deception and is just as guilty as Hansen for tolerating these felonious activities. I’ll be waiting for his public condemnation of Hansen and GISS. I won’t hold my breath!
Bill
T test? A two-standard-deviation data display has nothing to do with a t test. Sure, it is arbitrary. But since, for better or worse, the ‘normal’ curve is symmetrical, you can visualize 1.9 std dev or 2.1 std dev if you like, and reference the corresponding frequency of occurrence.
Dr. Meier has always been open and polite with the posters on this site. I suggest we reciprocate.
I still do not understand why the historical average shifted to the right..
Anyone got an explanation to this?
HLx
I agree that both Walt and Julienne have been very cooperative in sharing and discussing information.
I have to say I have also been very impressed with Reto Ruedy at GISS for the same reasons. This however is in stark contrast to the guys at NCDC, who often don’t even bother replying to requests.
I am reminded of the recent trend towards slight “errors” in pill counts for medications delivered by mail. Careful counting of pills received shows occasional “errors” where the numbers that arrive are not what the manifest shows. In my experience with 127 orders there were 14 that had fewer pills than ordered. There were NO orders that had more than the order. Of the 14 under counts 12 were on the much more expensive non-generic medications. I am sure this is merely coincidental. When queried the pharmacy said, “Errors happen, even in automatic pill counters.”
These days I always count upon receipt and promptly notify of undercounts. Amazingly, there have been NO errors in recent months after they realized I was monitoring them and had contacted the state consumer affairs bureau. Again, purely coincidental I am sure.
As a former soldier our motto was always , “Once is chance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.”
Take away. Count your pills. Watch the ice measuring and the temperature readings.
John
Paul Homewood says:
April 19, 2012 at 6:55 am
I agree that both Walt and Julienne have been very cooperative in sharing and discussing information.
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Julienne said: “As you know, we average in order to remove artificial ice from weather effects. Weather effects can result in noisy data that is not a real sea ice signal. The underlying data going into the averaging are unchanged.”
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You don’t have to change the underlying data to show less ice……..if you change the “averaging” to show less noise to remove even more artificial ice ……..to show less ice
One final point. For you to feel “saddened” is totally inappropriate, and it is part of the reason we still don’t trust you.
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Actually, expressing this feeling of being ‘saddened’ is just a ploy of manipulation. He’d like us to back off with the scrutiny they (now) find themselves in as if that isn’t part and parcel of Science.
On a sad note: Sad as it is, it is sad to say that we’re saddened by the fact he is sadenned, and……that is saddening thought indeed. !!!
Doesn’t quite explain why the 1979 – 2000 average is different to the original.
Also, I cant understand why they use 2x Std Deviation on plots that are averages of the data. Unless the sd are from the data in which case I would expect them to be larger.
“As a final, personal note let me make a more general comment. I am saddened that some people have become so cynical about climate scientists and climate data.”
I am one of those people who don’t believe much of anything that a government paid climate “scientist” would put out there. I can not believe that this man does not understand why. Decades ago I was a big fan of climate scientists and then they sold out for money, position, power, and so on and began to fudge the numbers. That is the biggest cheat in science. My wife wants to know if the data can ever be fixed back to reality after all the tampering. I tell her I don’t think so.
Willis’ postings last evening (11:30pm & 12:23am) shed some light on the adverse effects of polarization, whether in climate science or elsewhere.
A wise mentor once said to me: “Avoid `we vs. they’ based attitudes and arguments”. Taken to its logical conclusion, a “we vs. they” attitude practiced by parties with differing viewpoints damages both “us and them” to some extent, and sometimes to great extent.
Far better to reach out in a positive manner to the Dr. Meiers of the world, just as Dr. Meier chose to respond professionally and civilly to Anthony.
It works … usually.
Thanks Anthony, Dr. Meier, and Willis for your efforts … keeping it civil is in everybody’s best interest (in part because it drives nefarious people nuts :>) ).
Dr Meier says
I’d be very interested for his opinion about which bits he thinks were brought by anybody else…and exactly what he and his fellow climatologists propose to do about it.
It is not the sceptics who Climategate exposed as a bunch of untrustworthy incompetents.
It is not the sceptics who rig the climate journals.
It is not the sceptics who use dodgy hidden statistics and lawsuits rather than standard methods and openness
It is the climatologists who must clean their house before any semblance of trust in them is restored. They are too deeply immersed in grime already.
I think Walt Meier should serve as an example to us all, within or outside of government service. What a gent.
Couple of questions for Dr. Walt Meier…
Why does the small change in the smoothing have such a big effect on the line of anual 1979 to 2000 mean, scewing the line down at the start and up at the end. What caused this significant change?
When are you going to change the base average to the usual 30y period, used by most climate researchers as a base ‘normal’ period for checking anomolies?
Until we get clear answers to the above, I’m still sceptical about the honesty and the transparency of NCDC.
I totally concur with Willis and what Steven Goddard have written about the matter. For whatever reason the little script below keeps running through my head…
NSIDC Exec #1 – “It appears that bastard Goddard discovered our data adjustment to cover up increasing ice levels. We can’t have that with AR5 coming out soon.”
NSIDC Exec #2 – Well let’s trot out old Walt again and see if he can do some damage control with the deniers.”
Exec #1 – “I don’t believe he was in the loop on this one, do you think he’ll play ball?”
Exec #2 – “Walt doesn’t need the whole story, just tell him there was a miscommunication and I’m sure he’ll run with it. He’s a real team player.”
>>Steamboat Jack says:
April 19, 2012 at 5:45 am
Willis,
…the Climategate emails show the mechanism used to rid “climate science” of anyone “not a team player”. The details of that mechanism are well known here. The bottom line is that anyone who has survived the purge of heretics is suspect.<<
No, not "suspect," but as Willis states, "quietly complicit." There's a huge difference, completely captured by the phrase "when good men do nothing…"
But good men do nothing for a reason, usually out of fear, whether fear of loss of stature within their industry, or fear of loss of employment, or, in extreme cases, of unjust imprisonment or even death. In a scientist's case, it's quite likely fear of never again being published in relevant journals (as those journals become increasingly corrupted.) I believe in the climate realm the most obvious fear is loss of funding for one's life work, which is equivalent to loss of employment for all practical purposes.
A good illustration as to the potential for abuse of the "good" was posted here recently by Dr. Craig Loehle, wherein he described the rampant abuse, bordering on libel he claimed, heaped upon his professional work by Dr. Mann simply because he published his findings on the science of tree rings per his research. Whether Dr. Loehle was, in the past, one of those "quietly complicit good men" is unknown to me, but clearly he is now under attack by the leadership of the AGW movement simply for publishing what they feel to be uncomfortable data. Whether that will affect his research funding in the future is also something I don't know, but it's quite likely that as little as two or three years ago, that would have been the case.
Whether Dr. Meier takes Willis's critique to heart and someday calls out the leaders of the AGW movement for their mendacity is of less importance than that at least some "good men" do appear, for the weight of their opinions will be considerable now that the tide is turning. The NASA group, though mostly retired, was a start. By now, no doubt hundreds of current NASA employees are losing sleep over the matter, knowing that they number among the aptly described "quietly complicit good men." Ironically, had we not wasted billions on the AGW scare, we might not be defunding NASA presently. When bad science is exposed, good science, and good scientists, suffer also in the public eye.
If this was a developers-gone-wild premature deployment as stated, it shows a terrible – and unprofessional – change control process. Any enterprise that would allow developers to ad hoc deploy code without going through the proper change control process would bring up the wrath of the process auditors in any decent business or organization. Amazing how such agencies can get away with such poor quality assurance and control. But that’s show business… uh, I mean climate science in the world of government functionality.
“NSIDC will be making further improvements to the Sea Ice Index graphs and images in the coming months”
Call me a cynic but I’m guessing that all of those adjustments will result in reporting less not more Arctic ice…
The actual quote is
“All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.” — Thomas Jefferson
which is a paraphrase of the ideas of Edmund Burke. I think it was very, very appropriate for Willis Eschenbach to cite Jefferson in this context.
I am a longtime reader of this blog, but never posted previously.
I appreciate the desire the engage on a civil level with Walt Meier and other legitimate climate scientists. To regain credibility, I think he, and other climate scientists, need to speak out against bad science and highly suspect claims about global warming when they occur. I’m thinking mainly of the work of Michael Mann, Phil Jones, Gavin Schmidt, James Hansen and their colleagues, the attempts to suppress opposing views via peer review, the false claims of scientific consensus and so on.
As scientists, I think they have an ethical obligation to speak out on these issues — whatever their personal positions on global warming are.
I think Judith Curry has been very courageous for stating her views on the state of the science underlying AGW theory, at some personal cost. I don’t think she goes far enough, but she seems to be the only one.
Reblogged this on Climate Ponderings.
Dr. Walt Meier can consider himself a victim of having been ‘Scienced in cold blood’ !!!!
Meh, deliberate or not, conscious or not, the timing was not co-incidental. Walt’s whole organization, with every fibre of its being, wishes the ice would have been all gone by 2013. Listen to him maunder on about thin ice.
An extraordinary popular delusion and madness of the crowd. I’m sad there’s so much michigas.
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For those of you calling for NSIDC to use a 30-year average : I took the opportunity to raise this issue on Steve’s blog yesterday, and Julienne responded that they were planning to do just that later in the year.
Let’s hope that implementation goes more smoothly than this one…….
I’m a little sceptical regarding why 30 year old satellite pictures need to remain classified.