Many of you are probably aware of some strange goings on over at The National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) with their Arctic Sea ice graph, specifically, this one here:
You see, up until Tuesday morning, it looked like this:
If you have a keen eye, you might spot the difference, particularly in the proximity of the endpoint of the blue line to the 1979-2000 average line. How does sea ice extent go backwards you ask? Steve Goddard of real-science.com was first to spot it sent out an email notifying many people of his post titled: Breaking News : NSIDC Gets In The Data Tampering Act. I wasn’t convinced there was deliberate tampering going on, because it seemed to me to have all the marks of a processing glitch or something similar, and I made that fact known to many last night.
The two graphs (before and after on April 16th) overlaid look like this:
So not only did the extent change, going backwards, so did the climatology for computing the 2007 line and the 1979-2000 average line. This all came to light about 6PM PST Tuesday night. There was no announcement of this change on NSIDC’s website then.
While it would be easy to start pointing fingers, especially with the timing of the change (right before the extent line looked to cross the average line), I decided the best course of action would be to start asking questions before writing anything.
So I fired off emails to NSIDC’s Dr. Walt Meier and Julianne Stroeve. Strove responded first, within the hour, indicating that she could not see anything wrong, sending the image from NSIDC’s “internal network”, which is the middle graph above. That’s when I sent her the overlay (the bottom image combining the internal image she sent and the web page output image), showing that indeed there was something wrong. The light bulb went on. Walt Meier (who was traveling) responded about an hour later, with this speculation:
Hi Anthony,
Thanks for letting us know. I have a guess at what this might be.
We’re starting to make some changes to our processing to update/improve things, including some you’ve suggested. One thing that we’ve decided to do is to change the way we calculate our 5-day average values. We’ve been doing it as a centered average – i.e., a given day’s value in the plot is actually an average of that day + 2 days before and 2 days after. This caused an issue at the end point because we’d extrapolate to get a 5-day average on the last day, which resulted in wiggles at the end that.
We’re now changing it to be a trailing 5-day average, i.e., a given day’s value in the plot is the average of that day and the 4 preceding days. This will take out the wiggle in the end of the plot (or most of it – there may be some change as sometimes we don’t get complete data and need to interpolate, and later (a day or two) we do get the data and process it.
A key point is that this change doesn’t actually change the data at all; in effect it simply shifts values two days later. In other words, the centered value for Day X is the same as the trailing value for Day X+2.
This change has been implemented in our test environment and we were going to roll it out some time in near future after we tested it for a bit we planned to announce the change. I think that by accident the test code got put into production. I’d need to confirm this, but from the plot differences, this looks like what likely happened.
We’ll look into this and get back to you. I’m traveling tomorrow, but will send a note to people and I or others will get back to you as soon as we can.
walt
That seemed plausible to me, but clearly, both Meier and Strove were caught off guard, and having prominent skeptics alerting you that your most watched public output has gone haywire certainly can’t be comfortable. But, I run a bunch of servers making automated output myself, and I know how things happen. So I gave them the benefit of the doubt, particularly since they were communicating and concerned themselves.
This morning, about 14 hours after the problem was first noticed, this news item appeared on NSIDC’s web site:
Click the image for the story.
That still didn’t explain why Meier and Stroeve were blindsided with news last night from Steve Goddard and I. I queried them more, and as it turns out, they were out of the loop on the implementation. The hand and foot of NSIDC didn’t seem to have coordination on this, and it went online with no notice. Tonight, I got this email from Dr. Walt Meier that explained it:
Hi Steve, Anthony,
I think you’ve probably heard from Julienne and seen the posts we’ve made. But now that I have a chance to respond, I’ll add a few words of explanation and some thoughts. If you want to post these, you’re welcome to.
Thank you to both of you for noticing the issue and bringing it to our attention. Let me clarify (in case it’s not already clear) and provide some context. We are well aware that the daily timeseries plot, as we call it, is closely watched, particularly during the summer melt season. We’ve received various critiques of the plot, which we have taken under consideration to change when we got resources to do it. One them was the “wiggle” in the last two days of the plot. The plot was initially, and by and large still is, meant to provide a simplified glimpse of sea ice extent. The focus was on creating a clean, clear, easy to read, easy to understand graphic. As seen in other plots, the extent is often fairly noisy from day to day. Some of that variation reflects real changes, but much of it is due to limitations in the accuracy of the data or short-term weather effects, such as storm front blowing the ice one direction or another for a short period of time.
Thus, to reduce the noise and better reflect the seasonal trends we decided to use a 5-day average (5 days is a reasonable, though arbitrary, time period to reduce synoptic effects). We chose a centered average because that seemed the most logical. This means the average value is always 2 days behind the latest extent value. However, people wanted to see “today’s” value. So, we decided to provide preliminary values for those last two days by using a simple linear extrapolation. When we got enough data for a full centered 5-day average, we replaced that with the final values. However, this means that the values for the last two days change and one can get a “wiggle” in the data, particularly where there is a day or two of steep change because that day or two gets extrapolated out to 5 days. This can be misleading because, at least for a day or two, the slope may look more extreme than it really is.
I think you’re both familiar with this because it’s been commented on in the past, but I provide the background again for the full context. We refrained from changing it because of three reasons. First, after initial confusion, people understood it, so changing it could cause more confusion. Second, changing the averaging method would slightly change things in comparison with our previous analyses, namely, the date when minimum and maximum extents occur (a shift of two days). This is a minor change, but could cause some confusion. And finally, third, we wanted to make a few other changes and needed to plan resources to do them, so we put this on the list of things to do.
Last week we started to work on some changes. This was simply planning – looking at our processing, assessing what needed to be change. In the process, it was noted that changing the 5-day average would be simpler than we expected and could be done quickly. So I gave the go ahead to do this and was informed a couple days later that it had been done. However, there was some miscommunication. I was expecting that we wouldn’t put it into production immediately, but our developers assumed that it was good to go, so it went into production. Though the change had been discussed amongst all of us, the decision to do it right away happened fairly quickly and I don’t think Julienne was aware that it was in the process of being done.
In any event, what we have now implemented is a 5-day trailing average – in other words, the value plotted for a day is the average of that day and the four previous days. What this means is that there should no longer be a little. The data that we plot on a day should not change and we won’t be doing extrapolation. We think this is a better way to display the data and I think most would agree.
Another issue that wasn’t immediately noticed was that the climatology shifted more than the daily. This is because the climatology used a 9-day average. I don’t remember exactly why this was chosen, but I believe it was to make it look just a bit cleaner, though since it is an average, it already is pretty smooth. And since we were using a centered average, 5-day vs. 9-day, makes little difference. For example, the 5-day average for April 17 is 14.797 million sq km and the 9-day average is 14.801, a difference of 0.004 (4,000 sq km). Effectively, there is no difference because we estimate the precision to be on the order of 0.05 (50,000 sq km). So as long as both the daily and the climatology used a centered average, there was a consistent comparison.
However, when the centered average is moved to a trailing average there is a relative change between the 5-day daily, which slides 2 days, and the 9-day climatology, which slides 4 days. Thanks to Steve for noticing this and pointing it out. We should have it changed to a 5-day by tomorrow so that the comparison plot will again be consistent.
As for the timing of this, as mentioned above, it was mostly simply due to opportunity – we had a chance to make the change, so we decided to do it. Also, knowing that we’re heading toward the summer melt season, it was advantageous to make the change sooner rather than later. As the extent line steepens going through spring and into summer, the “wiggle” is often more noticeable. So making the change now would remove the issue for this summer’s melt season.
The fact that we made this change as the daily extent was nearing the average was entirely coincidental. It never actually entered my mind because I didn’t think it would make any difference (and it shouldn’t once we implement a 5-day average for the climatology). In fact, the change should help because we won’t be using extrapolation that can misleadingly make lines on the plot look closer than what the data really indicate.
Even using a 5-day average, short-term changes in the extent should be taken with some caution. It would be interesting if we did match or exceed the climatology, simply because it’s been several years since it happened. However, the ice near the edge now is all seasonal ice and quite thin and will melt fairly quickly. Any anomaly now will have little to no effect on the summer extent or the amount and thickness of multiyear ice.
As a final, personal note let me make a more general comment. I am saddened that some people have become so cynical about climate scientists and climate data. I can appreciate that scientists have brought some this on themselves. And of course, a healthy dose of skepticism is essential to science. But it is disappointing to see people immediately jump to conclusions and assume the worst. I hope people will take from this explanation that NSIDC, and scientists in general, are working hard to the best we can, both in understanding the science and communicating it. We’re not perfect, we make mistakes. When we find them or hear of them, we try to fix them as quickly as we can and to explain what happened as best we can. I’m proud of our team for working very hard today to address the issues, fix them, and answer questions. I think they did a great job today. And in my experience with other climate scientist, I’ve seen nothing other than that same level of dedication.
Thank you,
Walt Meier
So in a nutshell, NSIDC made a goof in implementation, and in communications. I could find all sorts of criticism for that, but I think they are probably punishing themselves far more than anything critical I might say, so I’ll just let the incident speak for itself.
I will say this though, I can’t even begin to fault them for being upfront and quickly communicative. That is a rare trait in a government agency, so on that basis, they get high marks from me, as well as my thanks. I’m fully satisfied with the explanation.
On Thursday, we’ll likely see this problem rectified, and this time I’m pretty sure I’ll get an email in advance or at the time it happens. I look forward to seeing the changes. On the plus side Dr. Meier tells me that they plan to make the raw extent data available, and that will of course allow us to plot ourselves.
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UPDATE: 4/19 9AM PST NSIDC has the new corrected graph online – see this story
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Is the arctic sea Ice above normal now or is it further away from being above normal because of this change?
The praise that the NSIDC is receiving for their quick excuses for this uncorrected mistake is baffling,
The arctic lost about one quarter of a million square kilometers of sea ice over night according to this graph, I’ve seen enough untimely adjustments to data in recent years, I don’t believe the official excuses of processing glitches, lack of communication with developers making the important decisions to go live without rigorous testing. But I guess it’s all my fault for having too much mistrust in climate science and those behind the scenes. It’s all just an honest mistake they said so in a nice e-mail so it must be true.
Maybe Mann, Hanson, Al Gore and all the other CAGW proponents are actually correct but just misunderstood as well, if only they wrote a nice e-mail saying how sad they were that you didn’t trust them.
Whatever average is used, the plot is showing a recovery of Arctic ice cover towards the ‘normal’ range 1979 – 2000.
Can we call off the impending doom of the missing ice once the current year crosses back above the ‘normal’?
No one has been able to explain to me why it should make any difference at all, even if the entire Arctic Ocean became ice free. We know the ice extent around 1000 AD was much smaller than today’s. Yet, somehow, all the animals in the region survived and there was no runaway global warming due to melting permafrost, halted ocean currents, fresh water floods into the oceans, etc.
What exactly would happen if the ice cap should disappear in the near future and there was an ice free Arctic Ocean?
According to a pixel count of this map, Artic ice is currently above average. http://www.real-science.com/a-look-at-the-high-resolution-nsidc-map
Great comments regarding the science mongers Willis.
I’ll have to go with Willis on this one. Because it’s plain to see that this is just one more example of every government agency “adjustment” going in the most alarming direction; which is, as always, in the direction of increased funding. What are the odds, eh?
But at least Dr Meier isn’t hiding out, I’ll give him that.
I’ve been following these ice changes for years, and as I have repeated on this site repeatedly, watch out for NH ice downwards adjustments when NH ice approximates or goes over their fabricated “mean”. Note lack of movement on NORSEX. As I said they CANNOT allow NH ice to go above normal it is a BASIC premise of the AGW. If this got out to MSM it would erode AGW to nothing. They cannot fiddle with SH ice because it is one single mass and presto it has been ABOVE anomaly for many many years now. Ironically CT has the NH ice close to normal and up to date. Maybe they are getting ready to face the music.
Actually after reading Steve Goddards site on this subject, I think we need to be much much more direct with these people here. He and maybe Bastardi and Climate Depot seem to taking these people on directly with detailed assessment of the data and then catching them blatantly attempting fraud. What in H##’s would have happened in Goddard had NOT reported this?
richardbriscoe says:
April 19, 2012 at 1:14 am
“Whatever way the data is presented, there is clearly something odd going on with Arctic ice. I find it strange that everyone seems much more interested in the NSIDC than the icecap itself. In a short space of time, the ice cover has gone from below the 2007 level to close to the 1979-2000 average. What seems to be happening is that the ice is melting much slower than in previous years.
Does anyone have any comments on or possible explanations for this phenomenon ?”
The sun is going into a Dalton type minimum. There wasn’t much real warming going on, it was more a matter of Hansen coloring the Arctis red where he has no thermometers, and the little warming there was is now gone, see UAH record, we’re back where we were in 1980 or so, all due to the double dip La Nina. My guess is that we will continue to see very short and weak El Nino’s and strong and long La Nina’s and we will go down the temperature scale stepwise.
We will see a lot of adjustment activity in the climate research institutes as they try to save their warming, inventing ever more ludicrous reasons for adjustments. NSIDC is a small fish. Satellites will “fail”. ENVISAT already has.
It’s more sensible that when you are in a hole “not to start digging”. So I can draw no conclusions.
I think you have fallen for another trick this time. Its very obvious to me that they are under pressure to not allow the wiggle to go over the normal. Poor ol Walt and Co have been forced to change something, anything to not allow the wiggle to go over the line. Why? because it ALWAYS occurs when the wiggle gets to close to the normal. Just check ALL changes implemented to programs data etc over the past 15 years when ice was about to go over. Suggested research for Goddard…. I prefer Goddards approach take no prisoners
>>Willis Eschenbach says:
>> … as climategate made perfectly clear, we were lied to and cheated by the leaders of the AGW movement, the key players in the game …
Well put Willis !
“I can appreciate that scientists have brought some this on themselves.”
While Dr. Walt is clearly an honourable guy, he’s attempting to split the difference here.. Climate scientists have brought ALL this on themselves; firstly, through direct malfeasance, secondly, through indirect near-universal silence regarding the malfeasance and subsequent white-washing of such.
While unfortunate, it doesn’t sadden me that the villagers didn’t come to the aid of the boy who had fraudulently cried wolf (numerous times) when the wolf finally attacked him in reality. Did some of the responsibility for what ultimately happened to the boy lie with the villagers? Of course not. The boy had never been straight with anyone on the matter. When skeptics see something funky with data presentation, we automatically assume the possibility to which we have been conditioned — by climate scientists and politicians and “journalists”.
This is not just past history — it continues to the present day. Just last week, the ‘blue marble’ blog on Mother Jones published a piece on ‘disappearing’ arctic ice, using a NASA video which included a version of the sea ice plot (here on the sea ice page) with the final downward plot from late 2011. The author, Julia Whitty, made no note of the most recent striking upward plot and record freeze-up duration. Nor did she when I pointed it out. No one did so among the haranguing commenters when I pointed it out, only a subdued silence when it dawned on them what had actually happened. Such an admission wouldn’t fit the ‘narrative’, would it? Just like all the myriad other truncating and adjusting of data to present a ‘cooked’ trend.
So, until Dr. Walt and all the silent others come clean about their complicity in this whole dirty business, sadness is not the emotion that animates.Sorry.
Jack Simmons says:
April 19, 2012 at 2:23 am
Whatever average is used, the plot is showing a recovery of Arctic ice cover towards the ‘normal’ range 1979 – 2000.
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Not really, IMO. After 2007, the arctic appears to have entered a new annual cycle profile which is characterized by going way up during spring and way down during fall (relative to long-time average).
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.anomaly.arctic.png
I don’t see any real rising trends there yet.
I just had a relevant post, hope it hasn’t completely vanished.
I think everyone should read this quote from Wayne Hayle, I think it goes for the whole human race.
“You see, this is how I found out that we were never really as smart as we thought we were.”
http://waynehale.wordpress.com/2012/04/18/how-we-nearly-lost-discovery/
Wills is right. His first comment says it for me. His second comment ‘for corruption to triumph..’ puts me in mind of what happend in Europe during the second world war. Especially today. Lots of’ good men’ remained silent. Its not on the same scale as that but many people have suffered hunger and starvation even death because of what these activists have done.
Willis, agreed. Think of a moral pendulum, which to the left of centre denotes bad, to the right of centre denotes good. Dr Meier sits in the centre, because while he has shown no bad (that we can be aware of) he also shows a lack of good in failing to have outed the ones on the bad left.
In my field, if you went left you went to jail. If you stayed in the middle, you ended up out of the industry and driving a cab. If you were in the right right, well, that’s where your colleagues were. Your harshest and fastest critics were often your closest friends, because they knew best what you did and when you made errors.
As to smoothing, please delete it from the book of methods as much as is possible. A measurement made at a certain time is a measurement made at a certain time, period. Please resist fiddling with it.
This cannot be the whole story, it does NOT explain the changes to the average line. KEEP PUSHING!
Marcos says:
April 18, 2012 at 11:04 pm
now that you have their attention, can you ask why they use a 21 year avg period (1979-2000) instead of a full 30 years?
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There is a hidden sub-text that the period 1979-2000 represents a stable time for Arctic ice and we have entered a non-stable time. To compare one year to such a short time period is meaningless. This will be clear when the ice extent starts increasing again and climate scientists move to a new “lower” average to predict the next ice age.
” the climatology used a 9-day average. I don’t remember exactly why this was chosen, but I believe it was to make it look just a bit cleaner,”
HOw about letting the natural variation that comes NATURALLY be in the graph. No one but those from AGW or ignorant of science would expect smooth curves.
When all other parameters are being adjusted to favor a warming condition, it is no wonder that, when you do so at the same time, we conclude you have the same motivation and goals. It’s a no brainer. When a citizen runs out of a bank with a gun at the same time as the bank robbers, they surely look guilty—in this case one has to prove their innocence, in court.
I think Willis was on point with the first comment. While we all obviously applaud Mr (Dr?) Meier for being so honest and open – it was him who first sought to counter-punch with the “Im saddend” paragraph. I think Willis called him out on it, and rightly so.
Mr Meier, you obviously have integrity and dignity. If more like you could make your voices heard, science would be all the better for it.
OK I can understand why the daily trace has changed but why have the 2007 and 1979-2000 traces also changed?
I’m with Willis when he says “First, let me congratulate both Dr Walt and Anthony on this interchange, kudos to you both. That’s how it should work….”. I can’t think that open factually based science and the questioning of the facts and the analysis can cause the emotion of sadness. Scientific facts are cold simple things, as is their interpretation. They have no emotions and should not arouse emotions. Just being pedantic I think sadness is a good emotion that we let ourselves feel when something we wouldn’t wish on ourselves happens to someone and we sincerely wish it didn’t. In climate “science” facts have been ignored, manipulated, distorted, misinterpreted, withheld and enhanced which is a disrepectful and dishonest thing to do to the people who need the facts and their interpretation (i.e. the knowledge) and this deserves a strong reaction. Anyone who knows about this and remains silent won’t get any sympathy from me. The whole advanced world as we know it requires people to be honest. Ignoring corruption whether it be of scientific principles and procedures or of government or business processes deserves the strongest reactions – being saddened as a result of these reactions is being a little bit precious. Look at it another way – if it was all out in the open without anything being ignored, manipulated, distorted, misinterpreted, withheld and enhanced then I don’t think there would be any antagonism -it would be just exciting discovery – and people would have different ideas but no-one would have reason to be sad. Scientists are the ones who are claiming modelling is science – it isn’t. Acquiring data and testing the models is science because that is testing the hypothesis behind the model. If the ice don’t melt then any model that says it should is wrong. Nothing to get excited about but not to be ignored either. But a scientist who won’t revise his hypothesis and his model given contradictory data deserves criticism and scorn. Sadness has got nothing to do with it. Introducing “sadness” is a patronising ploy to avoid apologising.
Smile, believe them, agree with them when they tell the truth (finally) but never forget to count your fingers after you shake there hand and I’m sorry to say if it sadden’s you that we have to count our fingers after shaking your hand blame the guy before who nicked my watch last time I shock hands, I will not name names but there was a bloke with a hockey stick and another that was head of ethics at some political group.
I haven’t heard this ever said before so I will be the first to coin the phrase.
“If the data doesn’t fit you must resubmit”