James Hansen – off the rails

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There’s not a whole lot I can say about this, except that I’m looking forward to his retirement soon. Then, he can speak as a “private citizen” as much as he wants.

Here’s the full story.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/apr/06/nasa-scientist-climate-change?newsfeed=true

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Sundance
April 7, 2012 8:57 am

Who knew Abe Lincoln could have ended slavery with a tax?

David, UK
April 7, 2012 8:58 am

sunshinehours1 says:
April 7, 2012 at 7:37 am
I propose a voluntary tax. If it is involuntary it is a tiny bit closer to slavery.

The above comment, although said in jest, sums up how little some people actually understand what freedom actually is and what a “tax” is.
Tax by definition cannot be “voluntary.” Giving money voluntarily is called “charity.” Charity is a selfless act of free will. An involuntary donation (a tax) is taken by force. It is somewhat more than just “a tiny bit” closer to slavery.

Ian W
April 7, 2012 8:59 am

Paul Westhaver says:
April 7, 2012 at 7:38 am
This man is simply insane.

No – he knows how to milk this pretend crisis for every dollar he can get before it is accepted as a scam even by the least intelligent politicians. He’s getting more income from shouting ‘wolf’ than he would for ensuring that GISS keeps good original data for real science.

April 7, 2012 9:02 am

Do I remember him actually postulating that we should reduce population to save the planet? What future generations?

Ron Richey
April 7, 2012 9:03 am

Dr. Hansen’s form of propaganda works pretty well in communism, socialism, or liberalism.
Not so well in a democracy or in the sciences.
He is fortunate he lives in a Country where there is no foolish tax.

April 7, 2012 9:25 am

Why the Global Warming Skeptics Are Wrong
March 22, 2012William D. Nordhaus.
Book review
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/mar/22/why-global-warming-skeptics-are-wrong/?pagination=false

MattN
April 7, 2012 9:27 am

I would say “He’s lost his mind” but that left him years ago, sometime around the “death trains” pronouncement…

Pat
April 7, 2012 9:27 am

And the American media actually believe The Weather Clown has a meaninful contribution to make for science rather than acknowledge that he has corrupted climate science to the point it is no more respectable than phrenology.

Shona
April 7, 2012 9:29 am

The irony of a a senior bloke from NASA wittering on about “profligate energy users”. But I forgot, NASA no longer has anything to do with space exploration …

William Astley
April 7, 2012 9:29 am

A doubling of atmospheric CO2 will result in less than 1C of warming, with most of the warming occurring at higher latitudes (Canada and Russia in the Northern Hemisphere, for example.) where the growing season is limited by the number of frost free days, as planetary clouds in the tropics increase or decrease to resist forcing changes. The IPCC extreme warming predictions – an increase of 3C average warming – require temperature amplification. The so called safe limit in warming is 2C. Mission accomplished. There is no global warming crisis due to the rise of atmospheric CO2 from 0.028% to 0.056%. CO2 is not a poison. Greenhouses inject CO2 into the greenhouse to 0.1% to 0.12% to increase yield. The biosphere will and is expanded due to atmospheric CO2 rise.
The real crisis is massive public spending and a massive increase in taxes which will force all primary industry and most secondary industry to leave Western Countries. The government does not have a magic wand to change engineering facts or to create the economic growth required to waste trillions of dollars without sovereign debit fault. If the US follows California the US will be turned into an economic version of Spain, unemployment of more than 20% and massive public debit.
The schemes which are being proposed to reduce carbon dioxide emissions are scams. The actual cost of the schemed is four to five times greater than what is proposed if the costs for massive storage systems such a compressed air or liquid sodium batteries to enable wind power or solar power to be available on demand, is included. Those advocating for wind power ingeniously reference Denmark knowing full well Denmark is a special case, Denmark is a small country located in region where there are high winds due to the proximity of the ocean and the arctic. Denmark is the Saudi Arabia of the Western world as it has a small population and large amounts of oil revenue to pay for wind farms. Denmark (population 5.5 million) uses the hydro electrical power of Norway and Sweden as a battery. Wind power requires a battery. Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, Chicago, New York, Houston, and so on do not have a source of wind and even if they did could not possibly afford the cost for both wind generation and a storage system. Reality is reality.
Even if the Western governments had a magic wand to create the trillions of dollars to spend on scams and ignoring the fundamental engineering issues such as it takes roughly 170 years for the direct energy savings of high speed trains over airplanes to offset the energy required to construct a high speed medium distance train (think road bed and rails, electric lines, and so on.), assume the scams could reduce Western emission by 20% by say 2020, CO2 will continue to rise due the emissions of the Asia countries. The Asia countries will not follow Europe into economic ruin. Atmospheric CO2 will therefore continue to increase.
The end of this madness will be two eminent events:
1) Obviously, Greece will default and Spain will follow, as surely as water flows downhill. The question is not if but when.
2) The planet will cool due to the interruption of the solar magnetic cycle. There are 1500 year cycles of warming and cooling – Dansgaard/Oescheger cycles (also referred to as Bond cycles named after the late Gerald Bond who tracked 23 of the cycles) – which coincide over and over again with solar magnetic cycle changes.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-21/spain-risks-default-now-more-than-ever-buiter-says-tom-keene.html
“Spain’s Default Risk Is Rising, Buiter Says: Tom Keene
Spain has never been so close to default and Greece, Ireland and Portugal may need further bailouts, Citigroup Inc. chief economist Willem Buiter said. “Spain is the key country about which I’m most worried,” Buiter, a former Bank of England policy maker, said in a radio interview today on “Bloomberg Surveillance” with Tom Keene and Ken Prewitt. “It’s really moved to the wrong side of the spectrum and is now at greater risk of sovereign restructuring than ever before.”

Ian E
April 7, 2012 9:30 am

‘ He argues that storing up expensive and destructive consequences for society in future is an “injustice of one generation to others”. ‘
Too right, Jim! Please stop them building those damned wind turbines and solar panel arrays – and, for heaven’s (or even earth’s) sake, do some proper research into thorium and get fracking!

DEEBEE
April 7, 2012 9:33 am

It is a moral issue and Hansen should be ashamed of his lack of the same. What he and his ilk are proposing is to condemn the third world just because they are non white. So yeah the slave masters are people like Hansen.

April 7, 2012 9:34 am

Well he is a well known doomsday-er propagandist who works for someone who has a vested interest in scaring people over anything to help them feel miserable and guilty.That will make him feel better and be relevant to his true boss:
http://globalwarmingskeptics.info/thread-14-post-7807.html#pid7807

mwhite
April 7, 2012 9:35 am

“Then, he can speak as a “private citizen” as much as he wants”
I’m sure he will.

Unattorney
April 7, 2012 9:36 am

Buried is our psyche is an ancient archetypical fear of the cold.Just as religion protects us from fear of death,warming delusions protect us from fear of cold.

shrnfr
April 7, 2012 9:36 am

As a tax slave, I demand that this individual who is earning large quantities of money outside of his public employment be fired from that employment. “Hunger Games” comes more and more to mind each day.

TG McCoy (Douglas DC)
April 7, 2012 9:39 am

Trouble is if elected will the current front runner in the Republican
Party Mitt Romney have the guts to fire Hanson…?

nc
April 7, 2012 9:46 am

Does anyone have information on Hansen’s lifestyle? Or others on the so called team. What I mean is, does he or others walk the talk? Of course we know about Gore, but the others. Not meant to pry into their lives, but general lifestyle.

April 7, 2012 9:50 am

Apologies for the double posting. I got a message that I was not logged in, etc. The format seems to keep changing, one time calling for me to type in my information and then sign in, other times my name and e-dress are already filled in, as they are now (the first time in ages).
IanM

PaulH
April 7, 2012 9:58 am

Hansen just insulted everyone with an ancestor who experienced slavery.

Latitude
April 7, 2012 10:06 am

“The situation we’re creating for young people and future generations is that we’re handing them a climate system which is potentially out of their control,” he said.
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…so no one is upset about cancer, plasticizers in their water, lack of jobs, or any of those other things
The whole problem boils down to the youth are just not pulling their weight and living up to their obligations of paying more taxes, working more hours, and doing without…..to support the world Hansen wants to leave them…………..

Tsk Tsk
April 7, 2012 10:09 am

ChE says:
April 7, 2012 at 8:47 am
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new notion, conceived in university, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created evil.
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This was brilliant, ChE, but I’d like to hope that we’re on the right side of Gettysburg. Oh, and presumably Hansen gives new meaning to “Little Roundtop.”

Iskandar
April 7, 2012 10:09 am

This man is really without any shame.
About the peer review process at PNAS:
Wikipedia citation from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proceedings_of_the_National_Academy_of_Sciences_of_the_United_States_of_America
Peer review
All research papers published in PNAS are peer-reviewed.[1] The standard mode is for papers to be submitted directly to PNAS rather than going through an Academy member. Members may handle the peer review process for up to 4 of their own papers per year—this is an open review process because the member selects and communicates directly with the referees. These submissions and reviews, like all for PNAS, are evaluated for publication by the PNAS Editorial Board. Until July 1, 2010, members were allowed to communicate up to 2 papers from non-members to PNAS every year. The review process for these papers was anonymous in that the identities of the referees were not revealed to the authors. Referees were selected by the NAS member.[2][3][4] PNAS eliminated communicated submissions through NAS members as of July 1, 2010, while continuing to make the final decision on all PNAS papers.[5]
Hansen is member since 1996.
That’s how it works. Simple.

jack morrow
April 7, 2012 10:09 am

He’s making lots of money now and as someone said in an earlier post-his pension is building fast.
He won’t be fired because the current leaders follow the same themes. We are in a real mess in this country and with 47% dummies and lemmings we probably won’t get out soon.

Kestrel
April 7, 2012 10:13 am

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Ian E: “For heaven’s (or even earth’s) sake [Jim Hansen] do some proper research into thorium!
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James Hansen has already taken Ian E’s advice.
It’s not that Hansen thinks nuclear power is perfectly safe. Yet Hansen does appreciate that (for example) the half-life of radiation from cesium at Fukushima is far shorter than the half-life of AGW from CO2. Although other folks may differ, Hansen’s analysis seems rational, moral, and factually solid to me.
Bottom Line: Advocates of nuclear energy have a strong ally in James Hansen.
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