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February 19, 2012 8:51 am

Has anone else noticed that on
http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/execute.csh?amsutemps+002
we are once again in record low temperatures for the calendar date?

February 19, 2012 8:51 am

Global Warming Denier Poster
I see alot of this sort of thing on Facebook, so I though I’d make my own version.
http://www.minnesotansforglobalwarming.com/m4gw/2012/02/global-warming-denier-poster.html

Tripid
February 19, 2012 8:57 am

Has anyone seen the article in Wired Science “The Inside Story of Climate Scientists Under Siege”? http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/climate-desk-michael-mann/
To me, they brought it on themselves by not being open with their data and methods. Its not science unless it is in the open with data and methods for all to review.

Tripid
February 19, 2012 9:01 am

Also note the mention of the Heartland Institue memo’s without any mention of the possibility that one of the memo’s was faked. I only read Wired Science for physics and cosmology stories and this is why.

LearDog
February 19, 2012 9:01 am

THIS story is hysterical.! Have at it!
http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_19984502
Clearly ‘Hate Crimes’

Jim Barker
February 19, 2012 9:07 am

Just tried to get onto http://www.numberwatch.co.uk and Firefox keeps locking up. What’s up?

Dr. Science
February 19, 2012 9:10 am

Q: Why are the geese flying north?
A: This time of year it starts warming up in the Southern U.S., resulting in overcrowding at golf courses in the region…

Snapple
February 19, 2012 9:23 am

Joe Bast could post a screen shot of the email his duped staffer allegedly sent. We could all see if the Climate Strategy document is on it. We could also see who got the email. Bast is telling his donors that he has contacted the FBI and police. Chicago FBI Special Agent Royden “Ross” Rice states that, based on media accounts, the FBI has no legal basis to investigate.
http://www.legendofpineridge.blogspot.com/2012/02/heartlands-hypocrisy.html

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
February 19, 2012 9:26 am

Apparently not everyone has gotten the memo:
http://planetsave.com/2012/02/19/heartland-institute-funnel-of-funding-infographic/

Heartland Institute Funnel of Funding Infographic
By Zachary Shahan On February 19, 2012
Skeptical Science has put together a nice infographic of the Heartland Institute’s funding sources and where the money goes based this week’s leaked documents (note, however, that nearly half of the Heartland Institute’s revenue, $14.26 million of its $33.9 million, comes from a single anonymous donor, according to the document). Some notes from Skeptical Science before showing the infographic:

These numbers come from the Heartland 2012 Budget and Fundraising Plan documents (in US dollars). Note that while some of the figures in this graphic have been confirmed, Heartland has not yet confirmed that all the numbers are correct. There is also no reason to doubt their veracity to this point. If any of the numbers are found to be in error, we will revise this graphic accordingly.
Although there are too many donations and programs to include in a single graphic, we selected some of the larger and more prominent contributors for the upper half of the graphic. Most of the programs and individuals in the lower half are potentially climate-related, with the exception of Operation Angry Badger, which we included because it potentially vlolates Heartland’s tax-exempt chartiable organizational status, and James Taylor, because he frequently writes climate “skeptic” blog posts for Forbes.

Apparently Anthony Watts hasn’t sufficiently corrected the record on how much was pledged and that it was for his new NOAA info website. Note: When trying to jam correct information through such thick skulls, he should use a larger hammer.

Additionally, some notes from the AP:

Because Heartland was not specific about what was fake and what was real, The Associated Press attempted to verify independently key parts of separate budget and fundraising documents that were leaked. The federal consultant working on the classroom curriculum, the former TV weatherman, a Chicago elected official who campaigns against hidden local debt and two corporate donors all confirmed to the AP that the sections in the document that pertained to them were accurate. No one the AP contacted said the budget or fundraising documents mentioning them were incorrect.

The “former TV weatherman” didn’t tell the AP the documents were incorrect? The SkepSci “infographic” shows “Watts Surface Stations” getting $88,000 when we already have Anthony stating only half of that was pledged.
Also note, the “genius” who wrote that piece saying $14.26 million is coming from a single anonymous donor, apparently didn’t notice the “infographic” shows only $3.9 million.
(Note: Honestly I don’t think I’ve ever even seen this “Planetsave” site before, it showed up when I Googled for fresh Heartland news. I can though tell from the “Other Planetsave Posts You May Like” that they are quite willing to unquestioningly join in any smearing against the “global warming deniers,” facts be damned.)

Eric (skeptic)
February 19, 2012 9:27 am

I would like Doug Cotton (or anyone else) to provide an alternative explanation to why radiational cooling is more effective when there are no clouds. Here is a conventional and widely accepted explanation: http://ryanhanrahan.wordpress.com/tag/radiational-cooling/

Calm winds and clear skies promote what we call radiational cooling. The longwave radiation emitted by earth into space is maximized on clear nights. On cloudy nights some of that radiation is absorbed by the clouds. A portion of that absorbed longwave radiation is emitted into space and a portion is re-emitted back to earth. On clear nights there are no clouds around to re-emit longwave energy back to earth. The more radiation escapes into space the cooler we get.

But according to Doug Cotton, the colder clouds cannot slow the warming of the warmer surface.

John Peter
February 19, 2012 9:29 am

So the oceans are doomed after all, notwithstanding Willis Eschenbach’s attempts to explain that the oceans are not turning acid.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17088154
Jacuzzi vents’ model CO2 future
“A UK scientist studying volcanic vents in the ocean says they hold a grave warning for future marine ecosystems.
These vents have naturally acidified waters that hint at how our seas might change if atmospheric carbon dioxide levels continue to rise.
They are conditions that would make it harder for corals and similar organisms to make the hard parts in their bodies.
Dr Jason Hall-Spencer’s work suggests our oceans could lose perhaps 30% of their biodiversity this century.”
and on it goes.

DirkH
February 19, 2012 9:33 am

Via a link posted by Nerd, I found this video by Dr. Robert Lustig, lecture about the American obesity epidemic and High Fructose Corn Syrup.

Now, I don’t consume sugary drinks but my teenage son does and the soft drinks here in Germany just say “sugar” (Zucker) on the ingredient list so I wanted to know whether it is legal to use HFCS in the highly regulated German food market.
So I consulted the wikipedia. I found that HFCS needs to be declared in Germany when there’s a fructose content above 5% in the syrup and simply writing “sugar” won’t do, so that was good. But what really astonished me is the difference between the German and the English wikipedia page about HFCS – while the German one talks freely about the problems associated with fructose metabolization, the English one is as clean from criticism as they are clean from CAGW criticism.
So that’s another area where the wikipedia is more than useless, except for seeing who plays what kind of games.

Nerd
February 19, 2012 9:35 am

4 months ago when Texas was going through exceptional drought and there was some concerns about La Nina continuing to make this terrible drought even worse during 2012 with reservoirs being low in some places. Since then, we have made a remarkable recovery for large part of Texas.
I’m wondering what could have made that happen despite La Nina in place?

DirkH
February 19, 2012 9:36 am
Eric Dailey
February 19, 2012 9:44 am

THIS IS NOT YOUR FATHERS GPS
“The Geospatial Revolution Project”
Blow you mind, view this video. The same tools may be used for truth or deception. Knowledge is power.
http://youtu.be/OEWKTaY2ahg
from this site…
http://www.geoeye.com/GeoEye101/what-is-geospatial/geospatial-revolution.aspx

DirkH
February 19, 2012 9:45 am

Snapple says:
February 19, 2012 at 9:23 am
“Joe Bast could post a screen shot of the email his duped staffer allegedly sent. We could all see if the Climate Strategy document is on it. ”
Snapple, you don’t seem to believe their word, so why would you believe a screenshot? If you don’t know how to fake a screenshot and would like to learn it, contact me for an offer.

February 19, 2012 9:46 am

John Peter,
Clearly, Dr Hall-Spencer is a buffoon. Why give a pseudo-scientist like that publicity? He says:
“What we see as you swim along a gradient of carbon dioxide, up to levels we expect for the end of this century, is diversity loss. As you go along that gradient, species drop out of the system,” he told BBC News.
These natural vents have been emitting large quantities of CO2 for millions of years. Species have adapted to their local conditions. so obviously, there will be different species in different environments.
We can add this alarmist nonsense to the litany of grant-trolling scare stories that are quoted endlessly in the BBC by clueless nincompoops and scientifically illiterate, propaganda writing reporters.
Nothing – N-O-T-H-I-N-G – unusual is happening. These stories are no different than the scary ghost stories that children tell each other.
By definition, half the population is below average in intelligence. This is the kind of scare story that appeals to them. Fortunately, most readers of WUWT know BS when they see it. Not so for the BBC’s audience.

February 19, 2012 9:48 am
February 19, 2012 9:52 am

A lawsuit in the making?
This brand new blog entry at Jo Nova has put DeSmogblog on legal notice:
Heartland sends out first legal notice about stolen and faked documents
http://joannenova.com.au/2012/02/heartland-sends-out-first-legal-notice-about-stolen-and-faked-documents/

February 19, 2012 10:25 am

sunsettommy says: February 19, 2012 at 9:52 am
A lawsuit in the making?
This brand new blog entry at Jo Nova has put DeSmogblog on legal notice:
Heartland sends out first legal notice about stolen and faked documents
http://joannenova.com.au/2012/02/heartland-sends-out-first-legal-notice-about-stolen-and-faked-documents/
____________
Great news, thanks Tommy.
Wouldn’t it be great if the warmists ended up funding Heartland through a big settlement?
These warmists make great opponents – compared to them, the Three Stooges look competent!
If the warmists had not caused our society to squander a trillion dollars on global warming fraud, it would actually be funny.
We continue to be influenced and governed by scoundrels and imbeciles.

February 19, 2012 10:27 am

The nytimes had a nice little human interest piece on the poor ice fishing season. They made it all the way to the second before last paragraph befor getting all global warmy.
So close.

DR
February 19, 2012 10:30 am

@DirkH
You may be interested in this
http://flibe-energy.com/
I heard Kirk Sorensen interviewed on the Peter Schiff show last month dated 1/17/2012. Quite revealing how the thorium projects were mothballed in the early 70’s.

Eric (skeptic)
February 19, 2012 10:31 am

Nerd, a very strong eastern Pacific upper level ridge (orange in link below) has allowed continental upper troughs to extend down into the US southwest (light green) and, sometimes as cut off upper lows (separate patch of light green), sometimes not, drift eastward through Texas. The latest storm moving through the Carolinas was generated by one of those troughs. The latest Euro model http://weather.unisys.com/ecmwf/ecmwf.php?inv=0&plot=4p&region=a is showing another upper trough doing that during this week (wed/thurs) but for now the NWS in San Antonio is ignoring that model even though it has been pretty good at this range this winter.

Genghis
February 19, 2012 10:56 am

Eric (Skeptic),
It is all about whether or not the system is in thermal equilibrium. That is the billion dollar question climate question.
For example try this little experiment.
Take 2 identical black metal bars and wrap half of one of the bars with shiny aluminum insulating tape. Put them both under a heat lamp for a few hours (until the temperature of the bar wrapped half with the tape quits increasing). Then measure the temperature of both bars, their temperature will be identical despite the fact that one of the bars has an albedo of 50%.
Sliding the reflecting tape off or on the metal bar will make no difference to its temperature, once it is in equilibrium. If the bar isn’t in equilibrium, the tape will slow the warm or cooling of the bar. That is all there is to it.
The real question is whether or not the Earth is in equilibrium. The Warmers claim that the Earth is below the equilibrium temperature.
I claim that the Sun shining on the Earth for millions of years guarantees that the Earth is in equilibrium.

Adam Gallon
February 19, 2012 10:56 am

Looking at the whinging by certain sectors, of the paltry $1.5m donated to a certain organisation.
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2012/02/tip-of-iceberg.html
“According to Gray, in the past four years DFID has spent £900 million on climate change projects with nearly two thirds of that being spent in the past financial year. A further £533 million has already been committed up to 2013. The biggest recipients, he says, are India and Indonesia, two countries considered to be rapidly emerging economies”

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