CO2 Sensitivity is Multi-Modal – All bets are off

Guest Post by Ira Glickstein

A multi-modal probability distribution, such as the graphic below [from Schmittner 2011], cries out “MULTIPLE POPULATIONS”. Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity (expected temperature increase due to a doubling of CO2 levels, all else being equal) is distinctly different for Land and Ocean, with two peaks for Land (L1 and L2) and five peaks for Ocean (O1, O2, O3, O4, and O5).

When a probability distribution includes more than one population, the mean may, quite literally, have no MEANing! All bets are off.

Example of a Multi-Modal Distribution

According to the basic tenets of System Science (my PhD area) probability distributions that inadvertently mix multiple populations often lead to un-reliable conclusions. Here is an easy to understand example of how a multi-modal distribution leads to ridiculous results.

Say we graphed the heights of a group of infants and their mothers. We’d get a peak at, say 25″, representing the average height of the infants, and another at, say 65″, representing the mothers. The mean of that multi-modal distribution, 45″, would represent neither the mothers nor the infants – not a single baby nor mother would be 45″ tall!

If some “alien scientist” re-measured the heights of the cohort of children and their mothers over a decade, the mean would increase rapidly, perhaps from 45″ to 60″. If that “alien scientist” did not understand multi-modal distributions representing different populations, he or she might extrapolate and predict that, a decade hence, the mean would be 75″! Of course, actual measurements over a second decade, as the children reached their adult heights, would have a mean that would stabilize closer to 66″ (assuming about half the children were male). The “alien scientist’s” extrapolation would be as wrong as some IPCC predictions seem to be.

Implications of Multi-Modal CO2 Sensitivity

Schmittner says:

The [graph shown above], considering both land and ocean reconstructions, is multi-modal and displays a broad maximum with a double peak between 2 and 2.6 K [1 K = 1ºC], smaller local maxima around 2.8 K and 1.3 K and vanishing probabilities below 1 K and above 3.2 K. The distribution has its mean and median at 2.2 K and 2.3 K, respectively and its 66% and 90% cumulative probability intervals are 1.7–2.6 K, and 1.4–2.8 K, respectively. [my emphasis]

The caption for the graphic says:

Marginal posterior probability distributions for ECS2xC. Upper: estimated from land and ocean, land only, and ocean only temperature reconstructions using the standard assumptions (1 × dust, 0 × wind stress, 1 × sea level correction of ΔSSTSL = 0.32 K…). Lower: estimated under alternate assumptions about dust forcing, wind stress, and ΔSSTSL using land and ocean data.

So part of the cause of multi-modality is due to different sensitivity to dust, wind, and sea surface temperatures for the combined Ocean and Land data, and part due to differences between Ocean and Land. But, that is only part of the story. Please read on for how Geographic Zones seem to have different sensitivities.

Geographic Zones Have Different Sensitivities

Another Schmittner 2011 graphic, shown below, indicates how different the Arctic, North Temperate, Tropics, South Temperate, and Antarctic zones are. Indeed, there is a startling difference between the Arctic and Antarctic.

Zonally averaged surface temperature change between the LGM and modern. The black thick line denotes the climate reconstructions and grey shading the ±1, 2, and 3 K intervals around the observations. Modeled temperatures, averaged using only cells with reconstructions … are shown as colored lines labeled with the corresponding ECS2xC values.

The thick black line represents the “climate reconstruction” (change in temperature in ºC) between current conditions and those of about 20,000 years ago during the Last Glacial Maximum. The LGM was the coldest period in the history of the Earth in the past 100,000 years. Note that the Tropics were about 2ºC cooler than they are now, the South Temperate zone was about 3ºC cooler, the North Temperate zone about 4ºC cooler, and the Antarctic about 8ºC cooler. However, according to the climate reconstruction, the Arctic was about 1ºC WARMER than it is today!

The estimated CO2 level during the LGM is 185 ppm, quite a bit below the estimated Pre-Industrial level of about 280 ppm, and about half that of the current measured level of about 390 ppm. Thus, IF CO2 DOUBLING CAUSED ALL of the temperature increase from the LGM to the present, the sensitivity for the geographic zones would range from +8ºC (Antarctic) to +4ºC (South Temperate) to +3ºC (North Temperate) to +2ºC (Tropics) to -1ºC (Arctic).

Of course, based on the Ice Core temperature records for several ice ages over the past 400,000 years, the warming 20,000 years after a Glacial Maximum tends to be significant (several degrees). Thus, while increases in CO2, all else being equal, do cause some increase in mean temperatures, it is clear from the Ice Core record, where temperature changes lead CO2 changes by from 800 to 1200 years, that something else causes the temperature to change and then the temperature change causes CO2 to change. Thus, it would be wrong, IMHO, to assign more than some small fraction of the warming since the LGM to CO2 increases.

The colored lines in the above graphic correspond to modeled temperatures based on different assumed CO2 sensitivities, ranging from 0.3ºC to +8.4ºC. The darker blue line, corresponding to a sensitivity of 2.3ºC, is the best match for the thick black climate reconstruction line.

IPCC CO2 Sensitivities are Mono-Modal and have “Fat Tails”

So, how do the IPCC AR4 Figure 9.20 graphs of Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity compare to the Schmittner 2011 results? Not too well, as the graphic below indicates!

...Comparison between different estimates of the PDF (or relative likelihood) for ECS (°C). All PDFs/likelihoods have been scaled to integrate to unity between 0°C and 10°C ECS. ...

First of all, notice that NONE of the individual IPCC graphs are multi-modal! Yet, taken as a group, there are several distinct peaks, indicating that each of the researchers characterized only one of a number of multi-modal peaks, and were inadvertently (or purposely?) blind to the other populations. Thus, the IPCC curves, taken as a group, seem to support Schmittner’s results of multi-modality.

For example, compare the green curve (Andronova 01) to the red curve (Forest 06). They hardly overlap, indicating that they have sampled different populations.

There is another, less obvious problem with the IPCC curves. Notice that they each have a relatively “normal” tail on the left and what is called a “Fat Tail” on the right. What does that mean? Well, a “normal curve” has a single peak, representing both the mode and the mean, and two “normal” tails that approach zero at about +/- 3ơ (Greek letter sigma, representing standard deviation). A mono-modal curve may skew to the left or right a bit, which would put the mode (peak) to the left or right of the mean.

The problem with the IPCC curves is that, in addition to the skew, the right-hand tail extends quite far to the right, out to 10ºC and beyond, before approaching zero. According to Schmittner 2011:

High sensitivity models (ECS2xC > 6.3 K) show a runaway effect resulting in a completely ice-covered planet. Once snow and ice cover reach a critical latitude, the positive ice-albedo feedback is larger than the negative feedback due to reduced longwave radiation (Planck feedback), triggering an irreversible transition … During the LGM Earth was covered by more ice and snow than it is today, but continental ice sheets did not extend equatorward of ~40°N/S, and the tropics and subtropics were ice free except at high altitudes. Our model thus suggests that large climate sensitivities (ECS2xC > 6 K) cannot be reconciled with paleoclimatic and geologic evidence, and hence should be assigned near-zero probability….[my emphasis]

Based on the above argument, I have annotated the IPCC figure to “X-out” the Fat Tails beyond 6°C. I did that because any sensitivity greater than 6°C would retrodict a “total snowball Earth” at the LGM which contradicts clear evidence that the ice sheets did not extend equatorward beyond the middle of the USA or corresponding latitudes in Europe, Asia, South America, or Africa. Indeed, if Schmittner is correct, the tails of the IPCC graphs that extend beyond 5°C (or perhaps even 4°C) should approach zero probability.

Conclusions

Schmittner 2011 contradicts the IPCC climate sensitivity estimates and thus brings into question all IPCC temperature predictions due to human-caused CO2 increases.

It is clear from the several, widely-spaced peaks in the IPCC AR4 Figure 9.20 curves that Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity is indeed multi-modal. Yet, ALL the individual curves are mono-modal. Thus, the IPCC figure is, on its face, self-contradictory.

If Schmittner 2011 is correct that sensitivity beyond about 6°C is impossible based on the fact that Tropical and Sub-Tropical zones were not ice-covered during the LGM, the Fat Tails of all the IPCC Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity curves are wrong. That calls into question each and every one of those curves.

The multi-modal nature of CO2 sensitivity indicates that the effects of CO2 levels are quite different between geographic zones as well as between Ocean and Land. Thus, the very concept of a whole-Earth Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity based on a doubling of CO2 levels may be misplaced.

Finally, if CO2 is as strong a driver of surface temperatures as the IPCC would have us believe, how in the world can anyone explain the apparent fact that, given a doubling of CO2 levels, the modern Arctic is about 1°C COLDER than the LGM Arctic?

BOTTOM LINE: The Climate System is multi-faceted and extraordinarily complex. Even the most competent Climate Scientists, with the best and purest of intentions are rather like the blind men trying to characterize and understand the elephant. (One happens upon the elephant’s leg and proclaims “the elephant is like a tree”. Another happens to grab the tail and says with equal certainty “the elephant is like a snake”. The third bumps into the side of the elephant and confidently shouts “No, the elephant is like a wall!”) Each in his or her way is correct, but none can really understand all the aspects nor characterize or predict the behavior of the actual Climate System. And, sadly, not all Climate Scientists are competent, and some have impure intentions.

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Dave Springer
December 19, 2011 4:34 am

Robert Brown says:
December 19, 2011 at 3:18 am
“Finally, if CO2 is as strong a driver of surface temperatures as the IPCC would have us believe, how in the world can anyone explain the apparent fact that, given a doubling of CO2 levels, the modern Arctic is about 1°C COLDER than the LGM Arctic?”
Lots of ways? Even warmists don’t deny things like continental drift
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Continental drift is 1-10cm per year. Since the LGM the maximum drift would be 2 kilometers. That isn’t enough to significantly change climatic zone even if the drift were entirely latitudinal.
Brown, you may do decent work when you slow down to think about it and seek peer review before publishing but your off the cuff comments here leave a lot to be desired. I suggest you think more and write less in this forum in the furture. Or at least think more.

Tony Berry
December 19, 2011 6:29 am

All very interesting but the fundamental problem is that the climate is not in thermal equilibrium thus the application of equilibrium thermodynamics to the problem of climate sensitivity is incorrect unless you can demonstrate that equilibrium thermodynamic equations are a reasonable approximation. Thus the results have little value otherwise and you are wasting your time. I don’t see any of this! Non equilibrium thermodynamic analyses are notoriously difficult if not impossible to do but that’s what makes them fascinating

R. Gates
December 19, 2011 7:56 am

wayne Job says:
December 19, 2011 at 12:31 am
This R Gates person seems to be particularly concerned about the rising levels of CO2 and our doom by fire.
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Nope, this R. Gates person has never spoke of any such thing as “doom by fire”. A run- away greenhouse effect is highly unlikely.

beng
December 19, 2011 8:07 am

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Dave Springer says:
December 18, 2011 at 6:12 pm
So you see it isn’t the sun heating the surface of Venus it’s the molten interior of the planet that’s heating it. The temperature gradient of the planet from core to surface is different on Venus because the surface is far better insulated.
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I considered this too. But if true, measurements would show that Venus was emitting more energy than it receives from the sun, like Jupiter. Someone may correct me, but I think that is not true — Venus is like the Earth in that it radiates outward the same energy that it receives (minus reflection of course).

davidmhoffer
December 19, 2011 8:24 am

mods ~ if Mr. Springer wishes to call me a moron while in the same sentence stipulating to being a jerk, I see no reason for suppressing his remarks. I’m certain that your readership is quite capable of determining for themselves if, in fact, I am a moron or not. As my expectation is that any who have followed my participation in this forum for any length of time will conclude otherwise, I can only leave it up to others to speculate as to what the root cause of Mr. Springer’s behaviour pattern actually is.
REPLY: I’ve grown tired of Mr. Springer’s behavior here – he’s on notice – Anthony

December 19, 2011 8:51 am

henry@allofyouseekingthetruth
I am surely puzzled by my latest results
which show that
in Easter Island -27.16 degrees (Chile)
Maxima have risen at 0.035 degrees C per annum
Means have risen at 0.014 degrees C per annum
Minima have risen by -0.007 degrees C per annum
whereas in Marcus Island (MinamiToriShima) + 24.28 degrees (Japan)
Maxima have risen 0.012 degrees C per annum
Means have risen 0.012 degrees C per annum
Minima have risen 0.021degrees C per annum
This difference in warming of NH and SH seems to be quite significant and is caused by;?
http://www.letterdash.com/HenryP/henrys-pool-table-on-global-warming

December 19, 2011 9:42 am

Just to be sure that everyone understands
exactly what puzzles me (about the results reported in my previous post)
I am hoping Dave Springer will help me??
;;
it seems on the NH, temps are pushed up by minima
whereas on the SH, temps. are clearly pushed up by maxima.
But , now, how can that be? There must be a rational explanation somewhere?

December 19, 2011 10:37 am

eeehhhh
could not clock in again for getting notifications of follow ups
let me try again

kwinterkorn
December 19, 2011 12:40 pm

Snarky comments re R Gates, and others, really do not belong here. If we skeptics are only preaching to the choir, what is the point? We need to encourage those on the AGW side who are respectful of logic and science to make their arguments here, not to stay away.
Another point: Even Dr Glickstein, whose post here is wonderful, shows a hunger for certainty in his comments re the anthropogenic source of the recently rising CO2. The isotopic ratio arguments for the rising CO2 being anthropogenic may be strong, but never will they or any other scientific argument based on such indirect proxies be “certain”. One of the John B entries above references an alternative hypothesis. Embracing any certainty in Science closes the mind when it is best to keep the mind a little open.

LazyTeenager
December 19, 2011 1:35 pm

Ira reckons
When a probability distribution includes more than one population, the mean may, quite literally, have no MEANing! All bets are off.
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The important word here is “may”.
The climate system is one system whose parts can be considered individually. A population of mothers and children is a bogus bogus analogy for that system.

LazyTeenager
December 19, 2011 1:45 pm

Ira says
First of all, notice that NONE of the individual IPCC graphs are multi-modal
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My lying eyes says that 2 of those curves are multimodal.

LazyTeenager
December 19, 2011 1:55 pm

Ira says
Thus, it would be wrong, IMHO, to assign more than some small fraction of the warming since the LGM to CO2 increases.
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So what is a sensible way of finding this fraction when 2 causes are related by a feedback loop?
Consider an old fashioned regenerative radio receiver. Let’s say its open loop gain is 1. we add 0.1 positive feedback and assume we get a gain of 10. If I want to claim that regenerative receivers don’t work I point at the 0.1 number. If I want to claim they do work I point at the 10 number. Who is right?
P.S. The example is only illustrative. I have forgotten how regenerative receivers work.

LazyTeenager
December 19, 2011 1:59 pm

Ira says
Thus, the IPCC curves, taken as a group, seem to support Schmittner’s results of multi-modality.
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It is pointless claiming that without a detailed examination of what each of the individual “IPCC” curves represent.

LazyTeenager
December 19, 2011 2:25 pm

Ira says
Finally, if CO2 is as strong a driver of surface temperatures as the IPCC would have us believe, how in the world can anyone explain the apparent fact that, given a doubling of CO2 levels, the modern Arctic is about 1°C COLDER than the LGM Arctic?
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That’s an easy question to answer!
Let’s consider the astonishing fact that climate is affected by more than one thing.
And that the relationship between temperature and those other things is not linear.
There are two factors of interest here. The amount of sunlight and the amount of CO2.
Let’s assume the amount of sunlight is different in the 2 hemispheres because of the milankovich cycles. That would account for the different temperatures in the northern and southern hemisphere.
Changes in the CO2 amount simply change how effective the changes in insolation are at producing changes in temperature. This effect is likely the same in both hemispheres.
So we have a plausible explanation. Don’t know if its the correct explanation. But Ira has not made a good argument against CO2.

LazyTeenager
December 19, 2011 2:36 pm

Ira says
That calls into question each and every one of those curves
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Well the question is to what degree are they wrong and should the curves be rejected altogether? This appears to be what Ira is trying to sneak by.
Seems like a good opportunity for that well worn logical fallacy: if something is a little bit wrong it must be totally wrong.

John Billings
December 19, 2011 3:37 pm

I’m enjoying reading this discussion. Too technical for me though 🙁

davidmhoffer
December 19, 2011 4:06 pm

LazyTeenager;
Let’s consider the astonishing fact that climate is affected by more than one thing.>>>
Yes! Let’s!
LazyTeenager;
Let’s assume the amount of sunlight is different in the 2 hemispheres because of the milankovich cycles. That would account for the different temperatures in the northern and southern hemisphere>>>
Gasp! So the fact that the earth’s land mass is predominantly NH, the NH has an ocean at the pole surrounded by land, the SH has a land mass at the pole surrounded by ocean, these things have nothing to do with it? That’s an astonishing number of major factors to dimiss in order to make your assumption that milankovich cycles account for the difference to make sense. Gee, and right after you were on the right track about climate being affected by more than one thing!
LazyTeenager;
There are two factors of interest here. The amount of sunlight and the amount of CO2.>>>>
Whoa! Just two? But you said….
LazyTeenager;
Changes in the CO2 amount simply change how effective the changes in insolation are at producing changes in temperature.>>>>
So…there’s no feedback after all? How interesting….
LazyTeenager;
So we have a plausible explanation.>>>
No we don’t. By your own assertions above, we do not.
LazyTeenager;
Don’t know if its the correct explanation. >>>
As Einstein once quipped; That’s not right. That’s not even wrong.

December 19, 2011 4:24 pm

Konrad says on December 18, 2011 at 10:01 pm and on December 18, 2011 at 10:25 pm:December 18, 2011.:
“++++++++++”
First of all, if you have not read any of the comments which I have made to various articles posted here on WUWT and to their various responses made by the many knowledgeable readers, then you may not be aware of my standpoint, or position on the CAGW hypostases.
Well, I believe in making things easy, therefore my “stance” is that as long as I see no “Empirical Proof” for the theory of warming, of any sort, by CO2 (Carbon Dioxide) – or any other gas, for that matter, say H2O. – I shall agree with no-one who proposes such a scenario.
In the case of H2O, – yes – Water Vapor (WV) has the property of retaining Thermal Energy (TE) for longer than any other Atmospheric gas component, – but then again WV is an intricate and undeniable link between the (liquid) surface and the atmosphere.
I do like, and whole-heartedly approve of, the fact that you – do experiments. – I too, do experiments and so did Fourier, the Frenchman who is “mistakenly” heralded as the “Father of the Greenhouse Theory” – And So did John Tyndall. – Tyndall is the man they will tell you “proved” the existence of the “Greenhouse Effect”. He, of course, did no such thing as he failed to distinguish between absorption and reflection.
Fourier wrote in his 1824 paper: “The heat of the sun, coming in the form of light, possesses the property of penetrating transparent solids or liquids, and loses this property entirely, when by communication with terrestrial bodies, it is turned into heat radiating without light”.
Arrhenius in 1896 catches on to the ” loses this property of penetrating transparent solids entirely” bit and proposes that “Hotboxes” or the later “Greenhouses” derive their increased heat because of “trapped heat radiation” – Hehehehehe – “but omitted completely that “dark radiation” cannot penetrate water (and therefore its vapor.)
I do not normally refer people to the various “who said what” on various blogs or web-sites but this time I’ll just say: Enter “Fourier 1824” into your search engine – and you will be educated. – Well, if you don’t want to be, then OK, —– but it is interesting.
-Meet Timothy Casey B.Sc (hons.)

Michael Tobis
December 19, 2011 4:50 pm

R. Gates in response to:
“.. The central question is: what will the effect be of raising CO2 to levels not seen in at least 800,000 years over a time-frame so short so as to not find a parallel in the geologic record”
says:
“I think that’s been our sceptical argument all along – it’s an unanswered question.”
So what are we disagreeing about then? Do you think the fact that the question is unanswered is reassuring?
If you don’t know whether I will suffer permanent brain damage from you bashing me on the head with a baseball bat, does that mean you get to do it?

Bill Illis
December 19, 2011 5:08 pm

LazyTeenager says:
December 19, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Let’s assume the amount of sunlight is different in the 2 hemispheres because of the milankovich cycles. That would account for the different temperatures in the northern and southern hemisphere.
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First, the temperatures in the two hemispheres are not much different over the timelines we are talking about here. The North has more up and down variability and it appears that the southern hemisphere is leading the path into and out-of the ice ages by several thousand years but they both follow the same general pattern of 100,000 year ice ages followed by 15,000 year interglacials.
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/9484/lasticeageglant.png
Secondly, the sunlight (solar insolation at high latitude) does not follow the 100,000 year ice age cycle. Solar insolation goes up and down over a varying 30,000 year cycle. There should have been 3 interglacials in the last 100,000 years according to solar irradiance but there was only the current one. [These two charts might be right to left opposite to what people normally want to see but Excel doesn’t allow dual axis charts to be plotted in reverse order on the X-axis for both Y-axis).
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1787/last3iamilankovitch.png
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2127/last3iceages.png
The Albedo of the ice is the explanation that works. When solar irradiance in high latitudes rises, it melts alot of ice. But it needs to break the back of massive 3 km high ice sheets and, over a short period of high solar irradiance, it is just not enough. Global temperature get higher by a degree or so but the ice age just continues on with 2 km high sheets instead.
When 2 or 3 of these high solar irradiance periods have accumulated, the 3 km high ice sheet’s back is finally broken and it melts back all the way to 75N. No change in CO2 is required for this explanation and in fact, it lags behind the ice sheet melt by 800 to 2000 years.

Doug Allen
December 19, 2011 5:37 pm

LazyTeenager’s “plausible explanation” deserves what I think is the likely (and testable) explanation. CO2 is well mixed in the atmosphere and the PPM are similar northern and southern hemisphere so, IMO, CO2 is not an important factor in the Arctic/Anarctic temperature trend differences (this also suggests to me that climate sensitivity is very low, but I won’t go there). Without any research, I would guess that the amount of sunlight is similar, but perhaps the differing land/water ratios is a factor here. Ocean currents are part of the mix, too, but climate scientists don’t know enough to say how, do they? We actually don’t know much about the Arctic and Anarctic ice areas before the satellite era, do we? So, if I am correct, we have about 30 years of evidence of decreasing Arctic and stable Anarctic icefield areas with some paleo and anecdotal information about earlier periods. What I think is happening and is testable is this- carbon black particulate from the heavily industrialized northern hemisphere had altered the Arctic albedo, causing increased spring-summer melting. Additional melting changes the albedo further and is a positive feedback. I am a luke warmer and think AGW is mainly because of the above Arctic albedo change which effects northern hemisphere weather patterns. I’ve spent 4 years now studying the science. Have I missed any important scientific papers in this area. Is my hypothesis testable? Has it been tested?

December 19, 2011 10:21 pm

Doug Allen (Dec. 19, 2011 at 5:37 pm):
You ask “Is my hypothesis testable?” In order for it to be testable, the associated statistical population would have to be identified but this has not yet happened.