Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
Whoever took the Climategate emails from the Climate Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia (UEA) are certainly playing the long game. Two whole years they waited before publishing the second group of 5,292 CRU emails, now known as Climategate 2.0. Impressive. I’m mentioned in 17 of the emails, because I made the first Freedom of Information Act (FOI) request to Phil Jones and the CRU to release his taxpayer-funded temperature data collection. Phil at the time was the head of the CRU. His data collection was and is the basis for one of the major global temperature records.
At the time they fobbed me off using a succession of excuses. They claimed the information was available on the web. But they were unable to say where. They put me off and put me off. My contemporaneous account of the CRU and the FOI lunacy is a posting on ClimateAudit entitled “Measuring Precipitation on Willis’ Boots“. (Not my title, that was Steve McIntyre’s). You should read it first for a concise background, it’s important for understanding the following story. I’ll wait here while you read it …
Eventually, after much time, long after I’d given up the chase as hopeless, the CRU folks admitted that the reason they didn’t release the data was that they didn’t have the data. Somewhere along the line, it had been lost.
Mr. David Palmer was the Freedom of Information Officer for the CRU at the time. In the newly released emails, he expresses his frustration with the whole procedure. I absolutely love his honesty at the time, but unfortunately, it’s a shame he didn’t say the same thing publicly. These latest emails fill in some very interesting holes in the story with new information that wasn’t revealed in the first set of Climategate emails.
From David Palmer to Phil Jones, regarding my FOI request, email #1184, April 2007 (emphasis mine):
Gents,
My head is beginning to spin here but I read this as meaning that he wants the raw station data; we don’t know which data belongs to which station, correct? Our letter stated:
“We can, however, send a list of all stations used, but without sources. This would include locations, names and lengths of record, although the latter are no guide as to the completeness of the series.”
Can we put this on the web? Perhaps I am being really thick here but I’m not sure if putting this on the web will actually satisfy Mr. Eschenbach – we’ve said we don’t have data sources, he says the external websites don’t have them, so who does? Are we back to the NMS’s? [National Meteorological Services -w.] I am happy to give this one more go, stating exactly what we are putting on the web and seeing if that suffices. Should Mr. Eschenbach still insist that we actually possess the information in the form he requests, I can then only give the file to Kitty Inglis for review and then we move on formally….
Cheers, Dave
Dave is right, there’s yer problem. “We don’t know which data belongs to which station, correct?”. That’s staggering, it’s gotta be in the running for some kind of truth in advertising award. Shame he wasn’t that honest with me. Instead, he worked hard to obscure that fact.
Phil Jones isn’t having any of it, though. He replies to David Palmer’s email on 23 April 2007 (emphasis again mine)
Dave,
…
I do not want to make the raw data available, as it will involve more and more requests. We make the gridded data available and that should be enough.
I think it would be worthwhile having a meeting involving a few more people in the light of the Keenan letter and what has been said on the Climate Audit website from Friday.
This to my mind is bullying and virtual harrasment. This is not for any reasonable scientific point. It is quite simply harrasment. These people are self appointed.
Cheers
Phil
My conclusion after all this time is that Phil truly didn’t get it. He actually didn’t understand. He was not the owner of private data. He was the curator of public data. He didn’t understand that FOI requests are legal documents. Throughout the whole episode he treated them as some kind of optional request to grant or not as he saw fit. In this he was aided and abetted by David Palmer.
Upon reading this email, I was very curious to find out what had gotten Phil’s knickers in a twist regarding “what has been said on the Climate Audit website from Friday”. Upon looking up the ClimateAudit post from Friday, April 20, 2007, I laughed when I found out that what Phil was referring to as “bullying and virtual harassment” was the post I cited above and requested that you read. I’m sure you picked up on how I was “bullying and virtually harassing” Professor Jones.
So that was what Phil was complaining about—me pointing out the foolishness of their various excuses. And on that basis he said that would not make the raw data available, as though me laughing at his transparent dodges were a valid exemption to an FOI request.
I note that over at RealClimate they are desperately trying to spin this as two-year-old turkey. However, it’s not just my case that has new information. Regarding a host of other issues, the recent emails contain much previously unrevealed evidence of the perfidy, subversion, misdirection, and malfeasance practiced by the Climategate un-indicted co-conspirators. Among many other things, they provide clear evidence of the destruction of incriminating emails. This was not just “boys will be boys”. This was the leading lights of the AGW supporting scientists, working together to deny access to publicly funded climate data, and twisting, bending and breaking the scientific norms, FOI regulations, and possibly the law in the process. And that’s just what they did in my case, that doesn’t even begin to touch their other misdeeds that they discuss in detail.
The discouraging part is that, to this day, not a person among them has admitted that they did anything incorrect in the slightest. Not one has acknowledged that they went a ways, not just a little ways, but a long ways over the line of ethics, morality, and honesty. No one has said they did a single thing wrong, no one has admitted they evaded an honest FOI request. Silence.
And silence, unfortunately, has also been the overwhelming response of the climate science community to their misdeeds. The miscreants say nothing, their supporters say nothing, they keep awarding each other honors and prizes, and they hope it will go away.
Ah, well. The saddest part is that the new revelations of the unthinking, off-hand venality of these main scientists of the AGW movement have lost their power to shock. That is a tragedy for climate science in particular and for science in general.
Finally, my particular thanks to Steve McIntyre for his part in all of this. Not that he advised me or told me to file the FOI in question, he didn’t do either. That was my own idea and choice. But his dogged persistence, his insistence on and demonstration of transparency of code and data, and his general Canadian generosity, honesty, and geniality have been an inspiration to me. His work is generally an example of the scientific method at its cleanest.
My best regards to all,
w.
PS—Interestingly, whoever released the emails also released a whole host of other CRU emails in a password protected archive. The purpose of this archive remains obscure, and the password has not been provided. At a minimum the publication of the archive ensures that the other emails will not be lost in a hard drive crash, or seized by the authorities. Whether it constitutes a warning or a message, and to whom it might be addressed, is unclear. Grab a beer and some popcorn, this story’s not over.
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The question to thinking folks is:
Why is there so much secrecy concerning climate science? The deception, the shoddy science, the blatant mis-use of statistics, the blatant misunderstanding of all forces…..unbelieveable how plain flat out stupid these fine folks really are.
Summary by SteveM in 2010 http://climateaudit.org/2010/07/21/inquiry-disinformation-about-crutem/ Scroll down to Mosher’s comment, is the UHI influence on CRUTEM issue resolved?
Thank you very much Willis,
An excellent article that I have linked from my Climate pages.
Happy Thanksgiving to all!
PaulID says:
November 24, 2011 at 6:17 am (Edit)
re post: Geoff Sherrington says: November 24, 2011 at 1:58 am
Geoff, that seems a rather amazing find – good catch on your part.
So nice, so kind, of Tim Osborn to attempt to yank Phil Jones up short and provide him with the convenient way to perjure himself or lie to the world all in one little smiley email.
What’s truly astounding is that he would do so in an email no less, all while saying they need to not discuss such things using email.
All in all, the display seems about as diametrically opposed to integrity as one can get.
WE and All,
First, i wish to thank Anthony and Willis for hosting such a compelling discussion. I’ve no real background in hard science, save for schoolboy stuff years ago, but I do have a background in investigative reporting. In other words, the E-mails themselves are quite illuminating and suggest a coverup, or more broadly put, an attempt to obscure and misdirect. Are the Emails snipped/ cut or otherwise incomplete, as their defenders assert? I ask because having read through caches of discovery and Emails, some otherwise scintillating and compelling messages, when put into context of the entire thread and what was plainly being discussed, often become quite pedestrian.
In thanks.
Rod
Where would a person get his virtual hands on this cache of CRU emails?
I’m thinking a crowd sourced analysis of the texts could prove interesting, particularly with regards to determination of a probable criminal conspiracy on the part of the email corespondents to disguise or hide the evidence of their political and fiscal motivations that directly lead to their manipulation and fabrication of data to arrive at the required answer.
The Portland Oregonian, a pretty leftist outfit, just today (Nov 25,11) editorialized about how we must prepare for the coming heat wave. Prepare, as defined by the Big O’s editorial staff means accepting socialistic rulers with dictatorial powers.
If I was the deepthroat FOIA, it would have been salt on a wound, to see these bad actors, giving themselves medals and awards. With Durban approaching, the urge to make further leaks, must have been overwhelming. Now, if we could only convince him that full disclosure IS the only way to clean-up this chapter of history. He must forget about protecting all his dear friends, involved in this scandal. There are NO innocents. GK
Two years ago I posted a snarky comment on SfGate the website of the San Francisco Chronicle. Something to the effect of “Slaps forehead, has revelation, there never was any data, the guys at EAU bought some cool lab coats, castoff sets from “The Avengers” and ginned up the whole thing” Little did I know.
“That is a tragedy for climate science in particular and for science in general.”
Science in general is doing its own bad PR. There’s the recent researcher who admitted he made most of it up and gave back his degree. All the papers that referenced his had to be withdrawn, and since the studies involved human subjects, there’s a certain amount of real harm done.
Then there’s Hwang Woo Suk, who “fabricated stem cell research results” (2006). And Scott Reuben, “… faking dozens of research studies that were published in medical journals” (2010). And Diederik Stapel, “Totally fabricated. Stapel made it all up.”.
“One in ten research psychologists appear to have actually falsified scientific data, and the majority have engaged in some of the more ambiguous “questionable” practices.”
But surely, only the “soft sciences” would do such things……
It’s possible that the encrypted package includes video or audio messages.
Willis – another example of the sideways shuffle:
A post from http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/24/crus-dr-phil-jones-world-renowned-climatologist-cant-even-plot-a-trend-in-excel/#comment-807839
davidmhoffer says:
November 24, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Speaking of Phil, he’s got some explanations up on the web about the context of some of those emails. He comes up with some very nice explanations that I have some questions about. Oddly, comments aren’t allowed, so, with the permission of the mods, I’m posting my questions here in the hopes that Phil sees them and answers.
Professor Phil Jones explains the context of some of the phrases cherry-picked from the thousands of emails (from 1995 to 2009) posted on the web on November 22, 2011.
…
Email 0714:
“Getting people we know and trust [into IPCC] is vital – hence my comment about the tornadoes group.”
Phil;
This was related to the selection of contributing authors, not IPCC-appointed chapter authors over which I have no influence. It means scientists we could trust to write succinct and clear text.
REPLY:
Phil, Phil, Phil. Poor Phil, you have no influence over chapter authors? Well, the implication isn’t that you did, is it? The implication is that you were part of a concerted effort to stack the writing team with like minded individuals to ensure there were no dissenting view points for the chapter to deal with. That sounds reminiscent of one of your emails from ClimateGate 1 about keeping certain papers out even if you had to redefine the meening of peer review, does it not?
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My conclusion after all this time is that Phil truly didn’t get it. He actually didn’t understand.
Oh, I think actually Phil “got it” all right. If his data was now corrupt and untraceable, any conclusions drawn from it worthless. Admitting to that fact would be a professional faux pas rising to scientific fraud, likely the end to his career and possibly the entire CRU climate science train.
Conversely, just failing to follow FOI requirements might be a slap on the wrist, first time offence and all, which is about how it turned out. With Associate Palmer’s complicity of course.
The dog ate my homework. Bad doggy!
Climate “scientists” rank just below phrenologists and astrologers. Few, if anr, of them could hold down a real job. AGW is the greatest hoax since Piltdown man, and has far greater costs to society.
The long game may simply be phased salvos, especially prior to formative alarmist conferences.
Ken Hall’s theory is far too much of a conspiracy theory. At this point it is early to guess.
Last time theories abounded, the only ones of much credibility in my reading of theories and known parameters was an assembly of documents prepared for an FOIA request that was denied, with an insider a strong possibility as the releaser.
BTW, what is Keith Briffa’s status? Did he have health problems a couple of years ago?
I can remember when the soup de jour was described as the “Post-Modern” era, about as early as I can remember. My wife put this into perspective for me in the early ’90’s when she coined her term for when we lived as the “Post-Literate” period.
What has transpired over the past decade or so (since MBH98) is what I had come to think of as the “Post-Sentient” period. Personal experiences at the professional level since about 2006 have occasioned rethinking this definition, yet again.
Maybe it is that ever since I can claim to have become sentient I have ever since become more aware of the proliferation and permeation of perfidy. If we just take Willis’ experiences here it is impossible to come to any other conclusion. Impossible, that is, unless you cannot think for yourself.
It really is incomprehensible to me that FOIA2009.zip occasioned any blowback at all coming after the Nixon era. Which really makes you wonder if we really are nine times more susceptible to rumor than we are to facts. FOIA2011.zip, at least the tidbits we can gaze at of this moment, provide more pixels to an already horrid picture of the misprision of science.
This is staggeringly beyond the simplistic “Post-Sentient” moniker that I had been considering for the recent century. May need some help here coming to the enormity of all this.
This is “Post-” something, but what? When one considers in isolation what Willis’ experience in just this FOI excursion represents about where we are ethically, what in the world should it be called?
I was in the deep desert all this week until this evening when I got back, so I am just reeling at this moment from what happened while I was gone. A lot more new/old information, but OMG what does this really say about H. sapiens?
So, it’s confirmed: not only did they (CRU, et al.) not know from whence the data used were derived in the past, and by their own admission they dumped original data due to “storage” capacity problems (I STILL can’t get my head around the idea that a “leading” research institution did not think it both necessary and prudent to find a way to maintain such data ad infinitum), and they apparently did not really track what they did, how the did “it,” or why and when “it” was done.
Thus, one of the traditional hallmarks of [reliable and ethical] scientific research — reproducibility — is toast. There would be, apparently, no way on God’s Green Earth to even hope to assembly “raw” met data and create a new set of values that might be highly similar to what Jones, eta al., have foisted upon us. Very poor judgement, weak ethics, and a high degree of overall irresponsibility.
Unbelievable… All those millions of dollars spen,… errr … wasted by “top scientists,” and nothing left to show for it. Sounds like the usual games in Congress and the White House.
Anthony
I am a big fan and have been very well informed by your site (and others). I think the quotes in this link
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2011/11/26/456-5/#more-12663
deserves a story all by itself. I also think it should be sent to MSM around the world. If there is any integrity left in the MSM they will publish it.
No need to publish this e-mail unless you want to. Either way I am fine with it.
Rob
Perhaps the third tranche, when it comes, will not be the entire encrypted file, but another selected chunk of it. The existence of the entire file in public hands is thus mainly a guarantee it won’t be disappeared, but doesn’t necessarily imply it will be opened all at once.
BTW, the “boys will be boys” is clearly more like “malefic brats will be malefic brats”. >:}