Gore blowback on severe weather links to climate

Uh oh, when you’ve lost the Guardian, you can be pretty sure you’ve lost middle America.

The claim that we are “painting more dots on the dice”, causing weather events that simply could not have occurred in the absence of human influence on climate, is just plain wrong. Given the paucity of reliable records and bias in climate models, it is quite impossible to say whether an observed event could have happened in a hypothetical pristine climate. Our research focuses on quantifying how risks have changed, which is a much easier proposition, although addressing all the uncertainties still makes working out these “relative risks” a painstaking affair.

Enthusiasm for doing anything about climate change seems to have given way to resignation that we will simply have to adapt. For the foreseeable future, this overwhelmingly means dealing with harmful weather events that have been made more likely by human influence on climate. What we can’t say right now is which these events are, and therefore who is being harmed and how much.

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There’s that darned uncertainty thing again.

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Bill H
October 7, 2011 7:58 pm

Al is washed up and irrelevant… he just hasn’t figured it out yet..

tokyoboy
October 7, 2011 8:00 pm

Is this a bonus Friday Funny?

October 7, 2011 8:08 pm

Science was pretty damaged by the Climategate thing, and Gore kicks it when it is down!

Doug in Seattle
October 7, 2011 8:13 pm

Nice to see the “uncertainty thing” mentioned though.

Reed Coray
October 7, 2011 8:18 pm

Wow, such a comment from an AGW proponent must be unsettling to the “Science Is Settled” crowd.

October 7, 2011 8:18 pm

So this twit is upset Gore stated what his paper suggested.
I’ll do him one better…..This moron is doing a disservice to science even more so than Gore. Gore is easily ignored with this idiot writes gibberish.
From the paper……….
“They found that greenhouse gas emissions had actually reduced the risk of such a flood: understandably, since springtime floods in the UK tend to result from melting snow, and thanks to greenhouse warming there is now less snow around.”
http://suyts.wordpress.com/2011/06/01/the-rapidly-melting-snow-extent/
http://suyts.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/too-much-blathering-about-snow-loss/
We don’t have less snow.

A different Bob
October 7, 2011 8:19 pm

This made me laugh. According to the Telegraph: “Italy struggled to roll over debt on Thursday, paying 4.68pc for €3.1bn of three-year debt, up 81 basis points from last month. Rome announced plans to sell €30bn of state assets, mostly property. It may include €10bn of CO2 emission rights – a form of debt reshuffling to gain time.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/8797958/German-bailout-vote-is-too-little-too-late.html

October 7, 2011 8:26 pm

And this is how the Australian Government is treating sceptic submissions to the Joint Select Committee on Australia’s Clean Energy Future Legislation: http://blogs.news.com.au/couriermail/andrewbolt/index.php/couriermail/comments/a_government_committee_to_discover_you_love_this_tax/

Mike Bromley the Kurd
October 7, 2011 8:46 pm

Hey! This is MY meme! Don’t sully it with your answers to my unquestions! You’re not a model! You can’t be so certain! (/sarc FGM)

Richard
October 7, 2011 9:09 pm

“When Al Gore said last week that scientists now have “clear proof that climate change is directly responsible for the extreme and devastating floods, storms and droughts that displaced millions of people this year,” my heart sank. ”
Who will believe me now? For God’s sake he should leave people like me to say that!

Jesse
October 7, 2011 9:11 pm

I wonder what our mainstream media will find to sensationalize when CO2 global warming finally dies a well-deserved death?

Theo Goodwin
October 7, 2011 9:14 pm

If someone prominent praises Gore’s work, especially a so-called climate scientist, be sure to send this article to them.
Gore may open new and unimagined territory in the art of self-destruction.

Fred Allen
October 7, 2011 9:21 pm

There was a lot that went unsaid in Obama’s press conference yesterday. Energy was a topic, but not one mention of climate change. Republicans appear to have turned their back on it. Democrats don’t seem to be far behind. I suspect we’re seeing a sea change. Is there something that will be public knowledge soon?

charles nelson
October 7, 2011 9:24 pm

The Guardian better be careful or George Soros will stop propping them up financially.

erfiebob
October 7, 2011 9:25 pm

I love how he said “there is now less snow around”. I think he’s been desperately ignoring the last few winters, not looking out his windows or at any weather reports. I don’t blame him; no doubt his world would be shattered if he discovered yet another dire AGW prediction that is refusing to pan out…

Richard
October 7, 2011 9:26 pm

Actually Al Gore has already crossed his tipping point with Tipper.

Antonia
October 7, 2011 9:33 pm

Streetcred,
I made a submission to the Joint Select Committee on Australia’s Clean Energy Future Legislation. It was properly addressed, and covered seven points including the lack of moral authority to introduce the tax when Ms Gillard had clearly said, “There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead”.
My submission was reclassified as correspondence and rejected, while the following was accepted and published on the JSCACEFL’s website, “To whom it may concern, I am writing to express my support for the Government to legislate to put a price on Carbon.I urge the government to continue to move ahead with the Carbon tax.”
No joke.

dalyplanet
October 7, 2011 9:49 pm

Dear Dear Anthony your influence expands. From a comment on the article
And how long before a selective quote appears on WattsUpWithThat?
Funny yes !!!

RayG
October 7, 2011 10:12 pm

Jesse says: October 7, 2011 at 9:11 pm I wonder what our mainstream media will find to sensationalize when CO2 global warming finally dies a well-deserved death?
Ocean acidification.

Nick Shaw
October 7, 2011 10:17 pm

I’m thinkin’ the guys at Heathrow didn’t read this clown’s paper! Otherwise they’d be scrapping their snowplough fleet instead of tripling it!

RayG
October 7, 2011 10:19 pm

charles nelson says:
October 7, 2011 at 9:24 pm
The Guardian better be careful or George Soros will stop propping them up financially.
Charles, George seems to be having some problems of his own right now. The led:
Soros Is Found Guilty in France On Charges of Insider Trading
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/21/business/soros-is-found-guilty-in-france-on-charges-of-insider-trading.html

Roger Carr
October 7, 2011 10:19 pm

Jesse says: (October 7, 2011 at 9:11 pm) “I wonder what our mainstream media will find to sensationalize when CO2 global warming finally dies a well-deserved death?”
When I was about six years old, Jesse, c. 1943, I asked my grandfather (after another hushed evening sitting around the old radio): “What will they have have for news when the war is over?”
They found stuff…

Jimmy Haigh
October 7, 2011 10:26 pm

The Guardian disappoints. – gavin.

J.H.
October 7, 2011 10:37 pm

I’m starting to think that the Australian Labor Party is a figment of George Orwell’s worst nightmare come to life…. The things they do to the English language in order to distort or manipulate the truth, is right out of ‘1984’….. and the direction that they want this country to follow! Utter madness. They are completely out of control. They possess no grasp on reality, no understanding of the wealth of history that has preceded them…. They will not listen and they do not care.
They wreak havoc on this society……. and they won’t even print our submissions of concern.

October 7, 2011 10:41 pm

“Enthusiasm for doing anything about climate change seems to have given way to resignation that we will simply have to adapt.”
Terrible sounding thing, this having to adapt.. Does he mean like say…the way we’ve adapted for thousands of years? As a species, survived ice ages? Spread from Africa to Europe, Asia, Australia and the Americas? Built thriving communities in the mountains, jungles, deserts, and the arctic? Adapt like that? Yeah…. we’re not very good at that, scary adapt thing are we?
Of course we managed all that before technology made us lazy. We conquered fire and not much more and that enabled us to adapt all over the planet, scum of the earth, that’s what we are, just adapting willy nilly to every climate type the earth has or has had for a million years or so. Suddenly we’re faced with “simply having to adapt” like its some sort of big deal?
Pfffft! First we had fire. Now we’ve got something better. We’ve got CONCENTRATED FIRE. We no longer adapt to our environment, we adapt our environment to us. River in the way? Divert it. Swamp where we want to build houses? Drain it. Too dry where we want to grow food? Irrigate it. Too cold? Greenhouse. Not enough CO2? Fill Greenhouse with CO2. Too warm? Air conditioning. Not enough snow to ski? Artificial snow. Food grows a long ways from where people need it? Long haul trucks with reefer units. Flooding is a threat? Build dams and control the water flow. There are only two things that prevent us from adapting pretty much anything on the planet to the way we would like it to be. One is an ROI case. No return on investment, no sense doing it. (Which doesn’t stop these dysfunctional things called gruberments, oops, I mean governments from doing it anyway…. but I digress). The second is ourselves. We can drain any swamp, dam any river, or punch a road through the the mountain we just levelled if we want. Sometimes we decide that saving the last 100 members of the four toed white tailed lurching marmoset is more important that the road, but that’s us limiting ourselves, not anything else.
And what is this magic CONCENTRATED FIRE that enables all this?
Oil.
Tax the bujeezuz out of the oil, and THEN we’ve got a problem adapting.

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