Big jumps in September solar activity metrics

NOAA’s Space weather prediction center released their solar cycle progression updates, and it shows one of the largest jumps for all common solar metrics since cycle 24 began.

Of course we know that the sunspot number has jumped significantly partly due to the recent large sunspot group that released X-class flares, but there’s more than that.

 Big gains were seen in 10.7 CM radio flux as well as the Ap geomagnetic index.

As always, be sure to check the WUWT solar reference page for the latest information.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/solar/

UPDATE: Here’s the daily SSN’s from SIDC

20110901  2011.666  85  59  26

20110902  2011.669  88  72  16

20110903  2011.672  91  71  20

20110904  2011.674  68  48  20

20110905  2011.677  74  53  21

20110906  2011.680  58  38  20

20110907  2011.682  47  31  16

20110908  2011.685  35  27   8

20110909  2011.688  47  28  19

20110910  2011.691  52  33  19

20110911  2011.693  61  37  24

20110912  2011.696  90  53  37

20110913  2011.699  94  54  40

20110914  2011.702 110  64  46

20110915  2011.704 124  89  35

20110916  2011.707 124  86  38

20110917  2011.710 104  73  31

20110918  2011.713  93  79  14

20110919  2011.715  92  78  14

20110920  2011.718  80  68  12

20110921  2011.721  70  61   9

20110922  2011.724  71  56  15

20110923  2011.726  59  59   0

20110924  2011.729  75  68   7

20110925  2011.732  79  69  10

20110926  2011.734  73  73   0

20110927  2011.737  67  67   0

20110928  2011.740  71  71   0

20110929  2011.743  83  83   0

20110930  2011.745  75  75   0

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AFPhys
October 5, 2011 8:26 am

There remains to be exceptionally low sunspot activity on the Southern hemisphere of Sol.
Another observation: it is right now 11 years since the maximum sunspot spike during the last cycle, SC23.
We are now entering into the period of observations that will yield enormously important data for understanding Sol.

patrioticduo
October 5, 2011 8:37 am

When the temperatures continue to fall, the democratically elected Governments will be forced back to finding ways to provide cheap energy. That will put the nail in the coffin of the wind farms, the solar panels and all of the scams (Solyndra) that are out there soaking up hundreds of millions of dollars that represent our hard work and toil. The basic disconnect between every individuals hard work and toil and these failed “green energy” ideas will be deleted when it really gets cold. When reality sinks in that our planet is getting colder, survival instinct will be the mechanism for ending the last thirty years of madness.

Mark Hladik
October 5, 2011 8:45 am

Jim Cripwell:
When I “Ask’ed” ‘Livingston & Penn’, a link came up to a SC24 discussion board (which an earlier post-er has cut & pasted; this might have the most current data available.
http://www.solarcycle24.com.proboards/index
if I got it right.
Hope that helps,
Mark H.

October 5, 2011 8:51 am

Eternal Optimist says:
October 5, 2011 at 8:26 am
Possibly a dumb question from a layman. If the sunspots have an immediate effect on us, is there any mileage on getting a look at the far side, to see what is coming down the pipe in 6-12 months time

Not a dumb question, but reveals the layman’s ignorance that the Sun rotates on its axis approximately* every 27 days. So no need to wait 6 months, just 2 weeks. :-]
* The Sun is not solid, so parts of it rotate at slightly different speeds.

w blair
October 5, 2011 9:03 am

Here in the UK our buffoon ‘energy and climate minister’ has told a meeting that we must not exploit a huge newly discovered shale gas field because it would jepardise our EU carbon reduction treaty…MADNESS!!

October 5, 2011 9:15 am

To M.A.Vukcevic. Thanks for the info. However, how to we access data from L&P on a routine basis? Is there a URL where we can go to get the latest info, as there is for just about any other solar data?

October 5, 2011 9:32 am

Jim Cripwell says:
If you email Dr.S. you may get the data; occasionally he puts up a link active just for a few days.

Mr. Alex
October 5, 2011 10:29 am

Southern hemisphere has been noticeably weaker though!!

Bart
October 5, 2011 10:29 am

Just remember, the measurement becomes most variable at the peaks. It may be peaking.

Bloke down the pub
October 5, 2011 10:49 am

matt says:
October 5, 2011 at 8:11 am
Why are the graphs labled ‘jan’ if they are for september output?
The graphs are labeled September but the axis is labeled from Jan 00 (2000) to Jan19(2019)

Andrew
October 5, 2011 10:55 am

We can always check on hits to climate blogs/sites. I’ll bet there already down on ALL pro and con AGW/climate sites (maybe ask Anthony to provide data comparing all sites with say, same of a year ago). Interest in these sort of issues nearly always fade away, especially when there is nothing on note happening with the weather etc .

Eternal Optimist
October 5, 2011 11:33 am

Hang on a minute
REPLY: The period of rotation for the sun is 27 days – Anthony
I never knew this. I always thought the sun had a ‘push’ on us. watts m2
i think you call it.
but if we get pinged every 27 days by a big spot, what about a harmonic effect ?

SteveSadlov
October 5, 2011 11:54 am

Saved from the Grim Reaper’s scythe just in the nick of time. Take your rest now. This weak cycle will crest before we all know it then back to the long slide down the razor blade.

Enneagram
October 5, 2011 2:01 pm

@M.A.Vukcevic says:
October 5, 2011 at 3:55 am
…..Not to mention your Sun´s electrocardiogram :
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/LFC2.htm

October 5, 2011 3:31 pm

Brad says:
October 5, 2011 at 8:26 am
REPLY: …The issue of overinflation of the SSN due to counting specks is an issue we’ve addressed many times. Be as upset as you wish. – Anthony
Actually, SIDC is undercounting the SSN. And specks must be counted too, so say the rules. I’m at Mendoza [Argentina] right now [ http://iaus286.iafe.uba.ar/ ]. Here is my talk on SSNs: http://www.leif.org/research/How%20Well%20Do%20We%20Know%20the%20Sunspot%20Number.pdf
The undercounting is discussed here: http://www.leif.org/research/SIDC-Seminar-14Sept.pdf

Reply to  Anthony Watts
October 5, 2011 4:29 pm

Anthony Watts says:
October 5, 2011 at 4:13 pm
But Leif, what about that time you and I got into that argument with SIDC over the month without sunspots? I thought your position then was that they were overcounting. – Anthony
That was an isolated incident, which they corrected. The have been overcounting by some 12% since about 2000. They know it and we will eventually fix it when the ‘agreed upon and vetted’ sunspot number emerges from our Workshop #2 in May 2012.

October 5, 2011 4:32 pm

The SSN since 1945 has been overcounted by some 20%. This is not due to counting specks but just the opposite: counted big spots more than once [up to five times for a very big one]. This is explained in: http://www.leif.org/research/SSN-Workshop1-Weighting.pdf

October 5, 2011 4:47 pm

Leif Svalgaard says:
October 5, 2011 at 4:29 pm
That was an isolated incident, which they corrected. The have been overcounting by some 12% since about 2000.
They have been undercounting by some 12% relative to the SSN they counted before [and relative to everybody else]. This is different from the overcounting that Waldmeier introduced ~1945.

Enneagram
October 5, 2011 5:09 pm

M.A.Vukcevic says:
October 5, 2011 at 4:35 am
The World Government fires a nuke into moribund sun to keep Global Warming going.
Desperation has no limits

Very funny!

Enneagram
October 5, 2011 5:11 pm

BTW: Now let´s wait for the “Watts Effect”……. 🙂
It´s a “robust” correlation.

Enneagram
October 5, 2011 5:14 pm

What if we are watching N.H. maximum and the S.H. maximum will wait until December 2012? 🙂

rbateman
October 5, 2011 5:16 pm

Mr. Alex says:
October 5, 2011 at 10:29 am
Southern hemisphere has been noticeably weaker though!!
Another way to look at this would be that the Southern Hemisphere is late to the dance. You can also consider the dual behavior of light – i.e. – contructive and destructive waves vs particle (300,000 km/sec).
The Solar Max, in this case, would be determined by how out-of-phase the waves (Sunspot bands of the Hemispheres) are. If such were true, then the Northern and Southern Sunspot bands are of different frequecies of thier cycles. If not true, then whatever causes these failures is not readily apparent. SC22 and SC23 pulled apart in peaks, but neither hemisphere failed. Now it gets really interesting.

October 5, 2011 6:10 pm

Jim Cripwell says:
October 5, 2011 at 9:15 am
However, how to we access data from L&P on a routine basis? Is there a URL where we can go to get the latest info, as there is for just about any other solar data?
The plot on my website is always up to date. In fact just got September data from Bill Livingston:
http://www.leif.org/research/Livingston%20and%20Penn.png
Since we are losing the small spots the widening distribution [of which we can’t see the bottom] is pulling the average up a bit.

October 5, 2011 11:15 pm

20110930 2011.745 75 75 0
What does those numbers mean.? 75 75 0?

October 5, 2011 11:27 pm

Daniel Vogler says:
October 5, 2011 at 11:15 pm
20110930 2011.745 75 75 0
What does those numbers mean.? 75 75 0?

SSN for whole disk, SSN for Northern half of disk, SSN for Southern half of disk.

phlogiston
October 6, 2011 2:02 am

While the Titanic sank, at a certain moment the prow (front) rose upwards sharply. Those near the prow might have thought to themselves – “hey – we’re going up, maybe all this stuff about the ship sinking isn’t settled science after all. Look how fast we’re moving up!”

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