Answering a reader question on climate web traffic

Reader “Andrew” asks in comments:

Andrew Submitted on 2011/10/05 at 10:55 am

We can always check on hits to climate blogs/sites. I’ll bet there already down on ALL pro and con AGW/climate sites (maybe ask Anthony to provide data comparing all sites with say, same of a year ago). Interest in these sort of issues nearly always fade away, especially when there is nothing on note happening with the weather etc .

Happy to oblige. Here’s the current ranking and past numbers of skeptic/lukewarmer  sites compared to the “premier” site, realclimate.org, run by “real climate scientists” and others.

Traffic rankings on October 5th, 2011:

Site Information for realclimate.org

Alexa Traffic Rank: Global Rank,181,105 Traffic Rank in US: 98,924

Sites Linking In: 4,036

Statistics Summary for climateaudit.org

Alexa Traffic Rank Global Rank 94,096 Rank in US 35,748

Sites Linking In 1,602

Statistics Summary for judithcurry.com

Alexa Traffic Rank Global Rank 144,262 Rank in US 37,218

Sites Linking In: 409

Statistics Summary for skepticalscience.com

Alexa Traffic Rank Global Rank 100,778 Rank in US 43,144

Sites Linking In: 1,776

Site Information for wattsupwiththat.com

Alexa Traffic Rank: Global Rank 17,087 Traffic Rank in US: 7001

Sites Linking In: 4,093

And the summary graph for the past year:

As a side note, one thing I’m particularly amused at is the difference in rankings in New Zealand. You see, Gareth Renowden, a truffle farmer who runs the website hot-topic.co.nz who has in the past referred to WUWT as µWatts (microwatts) seems to think he’s reaching a lot of people, much like John Cook of Skeptical Science. The numbers are quite interesting, it seems I’m not the one with the traffic rank in six plus digits.

He seems to have the traffic numbers for the basis of that µWatts label inverted:

Now compare that to WUWT’s rank in New Zealand:

Hmm, WUWT is beating him at his own game in his own country, 490 to 8,788. I hate it when that happens. Or as he puts it- Savaged by a dead sheep. Indeed not. Of course Gareth may simply be confused over the fact that in the Alexa traffic rank scheme, lower numbers are better.

h/t to Charles The Moderator for the tabular summary.

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October 5, 2011 6:18 pm

Now I understand why the warmists claim that the skeptics are well organized, well financed and superior in the messaging business. Well, except for the well financed, they are right: the warmists have lost the interest of their believers, let alone the undecided.
Now it makes sense, the warmist feeling of being ignored. They are being ignored, except for the scandal, and that was attention in the negative way. Not what the CAGW crowd wants.
Perhaps Mann or Schmidt could write semi-smutty stories, like Pachauri. That would at least get the RealClimate numbers up.

Evan Thomas
October 5, 2011 6:45 pm

The Sydney Morning Herald says WUWT is not known for its scientific rigour. Anthony could you email readersed@smh.com.au and state why and how your bog is scientifically rigorous and list the well respected scientists who contribute posts pro and con? SMH is a quality Australian paper but vey warmist.
[REPLY: a link to the article in question would be most helpful. -REP]

Chris B
October 5, 2011 7:08 pm

Daniel Vogler says:
October 5, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Oh believe me i find it highly educational here. I know there will always be trolls and whatnot. I wish i could absorb half the knowledge that i read here!
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I agree, this is the best site on the web for Climate Science, and the discussion in the comments are especially important. Thank you Anthony and your team.

Chris B
October 5, 2011 7:12 pm

Evan Thomas says:
October 5, 2011 at 6:45 pm
The Sydney Morning Herald says WUWT is not known for its scientific rigour. Anthony could you email readersed@smh.com.au and state why and how your bog is scientifically rigorous and list the well respected scientists who contribute posts pro and con?
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Evan, I’ve used many bogs around the world but never had caused to question their scientific rigour, usually I am concerned about cleanliness and odorifosity. 🙂

Robert of Ottawa
October 5, 2011 7:58 pm

ChrisM, No, Megawatti was PM of Indonesia; she had a daughter called Milliwatti ;^)

George E. Smith;
October 5, 2011 8:14 pm

“”””” Andrew Submitted on 2011/10/05 at 10:55 am
We can always check on hits to climate blogs/sites. I’ll bet there already down on ALL pro and con AGW/climate sites (maybe ask Anthony to provide data comparing all sites with say, same of a year ago). Interest in these sort of issues nearly always fade away, especially when there is nothing on note happening with the weather etc “”””””
Well I consider myself to have about average command of the English language; in at least three different dialects.
But I must confess, that I have absolutely no idea what the above quote means.
If somebody else can translate into either ‘Mercan, or perhaps Kiwi, I’d be most appreciative..

u.k.(us)
October 5, 2011 8:35 pm

Ray says:
October 5, 2011 at 12:47 pm
To show our appreciation to this fine website, please click on the ads (google ad-sense) to send Anthony some Love…
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I agree with your premise, but can someone/anyone tell me what Anthony gains when I click on said “Google ad-sense”.
It is never spoken of, so I assume the effect is minimal.
If I am mistaken, let me know.
Help.

October 5, 2011 8:51 pm

I remember commenting on the size of WUWT and the reply at dinner. Anthony simply said, “I have a mission.”
It misses something without the modest inflection but it is clear that he has BOTH a special talent and a mission.
There is something which goes missed in the above post. There are other highly trafficked sites, but this one is highly populated by thoughtful people who look at details. Like the rational discussion, WUWT is a true pole on the internet.
REPLY: Thanks Jeff for the kind words – Anthony

Theo Goodwin
October 5, 2011 9:00 pm

I cannot pass up an opportunity to compliment Anthony. He is a genius as a blogger. The mix of items that he offers is truly unparalleled elsewhere in the blogosphere. To me, the thread (as in weaving) that adds glory to his creation is his love for natural history and human experience.

October 6, 2011 1:40 am

This quote that Anthony mentioned above reminds me why I visit this site “The most respected scientific bodies have stated unequivocally that global warming is occurring, and people are causing it.” that, and these Misanthropic quotes below.
“Giving society cheap, abundant energy… would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.”
~ Paul Ehrlich, an American biologist, referring to the prospect of a future abundant source of energy like fusion, in light of the environmental damage wrought by the first wave of cheap energy, fossil fuels (1978).
“Human happiness [is] not as important as a wild and healthy planet. I know social scientists who remind me that people are part of nature, but it isn’t true. Somewhere along the line we … became a cancer. We have become a plague upon ourselves and upon the Earth…. Until such time as Homo Sapiens should decide to rejoin nature, some of us can only hope for the right virus to come along.”
~Biologist David Graber, in a Los Angeles Times book review of Mother Nature as a Hothouse Flower.
“The ending of the human epoch on Earth would most likely be greeted with a hearty ‘Good riddance!’.”
~Paul Taylor in his book, Respect for Nature: A Theory of Environmental Ethics.
And there are thousands of such quotes from these so-called “respected scientific bodies” and their representative scientists, I find their kind of science distasteful, disrespectful and offensive, it publicly promotes distrust of the great men and women who are actually making a difference in this world to make our lives better through the advancement of technological achievements, invaluable contributions to our vast reservoirs of factual knowledge and the understanding of our resilient planet and it’s environments.

TomL
October 6, 2011 6:45 am

Kind of OT, but has anybody noticed that the most recent postings on RC are all excuses? Excuses about bad cartography, excuses about the ocean not warming (the models don’t predict it! Really!), spin about cosmic rays, and spin about Greenland ice melting less than last year. Grasping at straws, it appears.

CW
October 6, 2011 11:36 am

” Daniel Vogler says:
October 5, 2011 at 3:00 pm
Out of those 675,000 comments, how many were unique? Meaning did the same group of people spam comments? I keep seeing the same names over and over.”
Frequent comments from a group of people is not spam. It’s discussion. HTH

October 6, 2011 12:43 pm

Perhaps you missed a site?
TheClimaterealityProject.org (NOT)
Alexa Traffic Rank Reputation
11,900,562 4
I would’ve thought millions (barf) of views would’ve given the boreman a better rank. /sarc
Moderators: Just a note, I’ve never been able to open the Tips thread. It crashes my computer (Win7, 64b, 8gb ram, IE9) and it crashed my last computer (XP, 32b, 4gb ram, IE8) every time. Sometimes I almost get to see the top post before it locks. My only choice is to reboot after using task manager to close IE. I tried Firefox on my old computer and had the same result.

David Ball
October 6, 2011 12:49 pm

Just my humble opinion, but I enjoy WUWT? because we are not told what to think, or how to think. The information is laid bare and one can formulate ones own opinion based on that information. All the different perspectives make for incredible open discussions. There is no better way of learning about a subject that I am aware of. Thank you Anthony and Mods !!

sagi
October 6, 2011 3:36 pm

A real truffle-maker.

DSW
October 6, 2011 5:20 pm

I have to agree with most here – the articles got me here to the site but it was (and is) the post-article discussions that kept me coming back. I think I have posted once before that I learn more from that than the articles most of the time.
Actually, what got me here the first time was being on another site (a political one) and a troll was blathering about AGW. Another poster told him to, “Go to WUWT and trot that argument out and see what happens.” Being a debater in high school and college, I couldn’t resist seeing what was up with that – and I have been hooked ever since.
That you ALL for the continuing education.

Matt
October 7, 2011 11:17 am

To George E Smith
Like I said on October 5 at 1.36 pm
———Embarrassing.—————
———-Andrew’s English.———-
By this I meant that Andrew’s English is embarrassing OR Andrew’s being English is embarrassing.
Or both.

Brian H
October 10, 2011 12:00 am

Richard and whoever else loses posts:
Install the Lazarus FireFox addon (new version with basic functions available for other browsers). It automatically saves what you type. The right-click in the context menu on the reply box, and Recover Text and Recover Form options appear. You can cache/save all entries for longer than the 14hr default; I keep mine for 54 weeks, since I have plenty of disk space.

Brian H
October 10, 2011 12:06 am

TedK;
I have an old 2.7 GHz XP machine, 2 GB ram, FF 8.0. I keep a Tips & Notes tab open at all times. After an entry, it takes ~1 min to reload. No crashes/lockups from using it.

Brian H
October 10, 2011 12:13 am

u.k.(us) says:
October 5, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Ray says:
October 5, 2011 at 12:47 pm
To show our appreciation to this fine website, please click on the ads (google ad-sense) to send Anthony some Love…
==============
I agree with your premise, but can someone/anyone tell me what Anthony gains when I click on said “Google ad-sense”.
It is never spoken of, so I assume the effect is minimal.
If I am mistaken, let me know.
Help.

It’s a pay-per-click system. Google Ads pays WUWT to display, and extra when someone clicks on an ad.

Brian H
October 10, 2011 2:32 pm

TedK says:
October 6, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Perhaps you missed a site?
TheClimaterealityProject.org (NOT)
Alexa Traffic Rank Reputation
11,900,562 4
I would’ve thought millions (barf) of views would’ve given the boreman a better rank. /sarc

That’s not views. That’s rank. In other words, it’s ranked so low you can probably beat it with a personal site with pix of a few pretty girls and kittens.