Pielke Sr. on a new paper discussing urban climate issues

New Paper “Climatic Trends In Major U.S. Urban Areas, 1950–2009″ By Mishra and Lettenmaier

By Dr. Roger Pielke Senior

There is a new paper

Mishra, V., and D. P. Lettenmaier (2011), Climatic trends in major U.S. urban areas, 1950–2009, Geophys. Res. Lett., 38, L16401, doi:10.1029/ 2011GL048255

which reports on the effect of urban areas on multi-decadal surface temperature trends.

The abstract reads [highlight added]

We evaluate changes in climatic indices for the 100 largest U.S. urban areas and paired surrounding non‐urban areas. During the period 1950–2009, we find that there were statistically significant changes in as many as half of the urban areas in temperature‐related indices, such as heating and cooling degree‐days and number of warm and cool nights, almost all of which are reflective of a general warming.

Similarly, statistically significant changes (mostly increases) in indices related to extreme precipitation, such as daily maximum intensities and number of days with heavy precipitation, were detected in as many of 30% of the urban areas. A paired analysis of urban and surrounding non‐urban areas suggests that most temperature‐related trends are attributable to regional climate change, rather than to local effects of urbanization, although the picture is more mixed for precipitation.

Among the conclusions

Consistent with previous studies [Easterling et al., 2000; Kalnay and Cai, 2003], trends related to temperature minima in the urban areas are generally stronger than those related to temperature maxima.

For both minimum daily temperature based climate indices and precipitation‐related trends, changes in urban and non‐urban areas are generally consistent; suggesting that the trends are dominantly a response to climate [Parker, 2004; Peterson, 2003], rather than local land cover changes during the period of analysis. However, there is somewhat less consistency in urban vs. non‐urban trends in climate indices related to daily maximum temperature, which suggests that land cover change may be at least partially responsible for those trends.

An important caveat to their study is that they have not factored in the role of microclimate changes at the observing sites which we have started to explore, as reported on in our paper

Fall, S., A. Watts, J. Nielsen-Gammon, E. Jones, D. Niyogi, J. Christy, and R.A. Pielke Sr., 2011: Analysis of the impacts of station exposure on the U.S. Historical Climatology Network temperatures and temperature trends. J. Geophys. Res., 116, D14120, doi:10.1029/2010JD015146.Copyright (2011) American Geophysical Union.

Their finding of less of an effect on minimum temperature trends on whether they are located in urban or rural areas is, however, puzzling, as the urban heat island effect on minimum temperatures is very well know (e.g. see EPA heat island effect). Since the spatial scale, density of build-up and type of constructions on urban areas continues to change over the time, the failure to find a difference between rural and urban areas needs more investigation as to why this was found in the Mishra and  Lettenmaier analysis.

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Philip Bradley
September 22, 2011 1:11 am

Australia has temperature data for many stations taken at fixed times.
Jonathan Lowe has done a detailed analysis of this time based data going back 60 years.
In summary, there is no warming trend overnight (midnight, 3 am, 6am) but then a sudden warming trend at 9am, which is especially large in winter.
The supposed warmer nights due to AGW simply don’t exist. At least in the Australian data.
The increasing Tmin is due to something that occurs in the early morning. And that something is likely a combination of decreased particulates and decreased clouds causing increased solar insolation resulting in earlier and higher Tmins, and higher temperatures at 9am.
This data also eliminates UHI as a cause of increasing Tmin, because UHI doesn’t suddenly start in the early morning.
http://gustofhotair.blogspot.com/

Disko Troop
September 22, 2011 1:41 am

I am sorry to have to say this but:
“During the period 1950–2009, we find that there were statistically significant changes in as many as half of the urban areas in temperature‐related indices, such as heating and cooling degree‐days and number of warm and cool nights, almost all of which are reflective of a general warming.” is complete bo***cks.
What is wrong with you “scientists?” Statistically significant in as many as half also means no statistical significance in as many as half. It does not take a McIntyre to work out from this mushed statement that they found nothing but are blaming the nothing on regional climate change. Then they have the gall to start on 30% for statistical significance for precipitation. i.e. 70% discarded. The whole bl**dy lot of you should be sent back to primary school for the starter course on statistics. Mann, Dessler, et Al, now this lot. When will you learn that if there is no statistical result you pack it in and say “Oh well never mind, lets try something else.” Not publish mush and draw conclusions which are just not there. You are wasting my valuable time that could be spent chopping wood or de-rusting the gate and oiling the mailbox hinges. Rant over.
PS Thankyou, Anthony, for drawing all this to our attention, but really, somewhere out there there has to be someone doing some useful science.

DanDaly
September 22, 2011 3:41 am

“Their finding of less of an effect on minimum temperature trends on whether they are located in urban or rural areas is,” indeed, “puzzling.” If I understand CAGW theory, CO2 being gratuitously pumped into the atmosphere by urbans ought to cause urban temperature minima to be markedly higher than rural areas where one would think there would be less CO2. Unless, of course, CO2 instantly disperses. But even then, I would think that if urban areas warmed significantly more than rural areas, the reflective properties of CO2 still would keep urban minimum temperatures relatively higher.
The precipitation findings, however, are unsurprising. A column of hot air rising over any given urban area is bound to produce precipitation. Just watch Broward County, Florida, on any Summer’s day.

P Wilson
September 22, 2011 4:23 am

there comes a point of temperature increase termination, though the assumption is that during periods of cooling, the urban heat effect decreases, and during warming periods, it increases in step with rural areas

wozza
September 22, 2011 4:31 am

Much ado about nothing really

golf charley
September 22, 2011 4:31 am

Sadly Phil Jones 1990 Nature paper declaring that UHI is not a factor in global warming still stands and is quoted routinely.
In the absence of any data, it is not possible to prove that he was not comparing the price lists of urban and rural chinese take aways
That’s AGW science for you

AndyG55
September 22, 2011 5:43 am

I wonder if they took into account things like where the prevailing wind was from.
We see a picture of a wheat field next to a city, where were their study fields?
Were they close to large urban areas, or even near areas of newly cleared land.
If the prevailing wind is from the direction of a city, there could be significant UHI drag across the study field, whereas if the prevailing wind is towards the city, there would be minimal UHI effect.
And of course, the prevailing winds in many places is often dependant on time of day.
How many other things have they ignored?
Is this really just another superficial study?

Jacob
September 22, 2011 5:56 am

I second Disko Troop.
Someone who can’t write an abstract in understandable English probably can’t do anything else in science.

Alan D McIntire
September 22, 2011 6:10 am

My two cents worth. They were trying to determine whether there is an actual general warming trend or the percieved warming trend is due solely to urbanization.
“…there were statistically significant changes in as many as half of the urban areas in temperature‐related indices, such as heating and cooling degree‐days and number of warm and cool nights, almost all of which are reflective of a general warming. Similarly, statistically significant changes (mostly increases) in indices related to extreme precipitation, such as daily maximum intensities and number of days with heavy precipitation, were detected in as many of 30% of the urban areas…”
That ” as many as 50%” and ” as many as 30%” were red flags for me. It implies that the data
as a whole may have implied that both rural and urban areas were warming ( though maybe at different rates), but the results were not statistically significant. Rather than throw their results away, they went data snooping, and found subsets of just about 50% and just about 30% that WOULD have been statisitically significant if they had been based on independent studies rather than on data snooping. The moral of this is, there MAY be a warming trend, but more data is needed before we can come to any reasonable conclusions.
See this referrence to “Bonferroni correction” and do a little google searching on the subject.
http://generallythinking.com/what-the-hell-is-bonferroni-correction/
“Imagine that we did 20 studies, and in each one we got a p value of exactly .05. A 5% chance of a fluke result over 20 studies means it’s odds on that one of these results really was a fluke. Now think about how many thousands of studies have been done over the years! This demonstrates the importance of replicating studies – fluke findings have definitely happened and will continue to happen.
However this situation isn’t limited to findings spread over multiple papers. Sometimes in larger papers with several studies and/or analyses rolled into one, you might get a similar predicament. Simply, the more tests you do in a paper, the more chance there is that one of them will have come about through pure chance.”

Theo Goodwin
September 22, 2011 6:25 am

Disko Troop says:
September 22, 2011 at 1:41 am
“When will you learn that if there is no statistical result you pack it in and say “Oh well never mind, lets try something else.” Not publish mush and draw conclusions which are just not there. You are wasting my valuable time that could be spent chopping wood or de-rusting the gate and oiling the mailbox hinges. Rant over.”
Apparently, the goal now is to turn science into something like a sitcom father, the butt of all jokes.

Pamela Gray
September 22, 2011 6:29 am

Something to consider: ENSO long term oscillations create statistically significant differences on a large regional basis (ex: La Nina dominant pattern – colder in the west, warmer in the southeast). Do studies such as the one examined above take this into consideration? Might they be violating the random sample requirement by accidently picking stations predominantly located within one large regional area whose warming pattern is connected with ENSO parameters?
I sometimes get the feeling that when studies are done, they concentrate on station selections east of the Rockies and then assume the results apply to all of us in the US. However, ENSO influence across the US demonstrates statistically significant, and often opposite, large regional affects.

Scott Covert
September 22, 2011 6:43 am

How many Rural sites were at airports? How many Urban sites?
Were they all GHCN sites?
Where is the data and methods?

Nuke Nemesis
September 22, 2011 6:50 am

@Roy Clark says:
September 21, 2011 at 9:44 pm
I believe you’re right. We should be closely monitoring the oceans, not landmasses. But urban areas figure prominently in the calculation of global warming. I wonder why that is? Human land bias, or because including urban areas gives the most warming?
Harding says:
September 21, 2011 at 11:41 pm
Yet we keep including urban sites when measuring global warming and it seems the Urban Heat Island Effect is estimated as too low, giving a warming bias.
@Steven Mosher says:
September 21, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Yes, and we’ll keep going over this until it starts to sink in. Land use changes do affect temperature and if those changes aren’t properly taken into account in an open, consistent and scientifically justifiable we will continue to get invalid results when trying to track climate change.

richard verney
September 22, 2011 7:00 am

If Berkley extend the instrument record back to 1800 (with a note of uncertainties covering the entire period 1800 to 2010), it will be interesting to see that. It should provide further insight into the warming out of the LIA.

richard verney
September 22, 2011 7:19 am

of Newcastle says: September 21, 2011 at 8:18 pm
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Dr Spencer is suggesting that on his analysis, there are arguments supporting a conclusion that there may have been no warming in the US as from 1970. If he is right on that, that would be a very important finding.
There are a number of weather stations not just in the US but also in other countries that suggest no warming has taken place during that or similar period.
The issue raised is if CO2 is a well mixed gas which has properties that lead to an increase in DWLWIR which in turn leads to an increase in temperature, how does the theory explain how a large land mass such as the US is not warming? Ditto, with repect to the other stations.
I know that this is ‘cherry picking’ however, the usual tool used for examining the soundness of a theory is to cherry pick examples and see how the theory copes with the selected scenario. If the theory is sound, it should hold up to the cherry picked case. If it does not hold up then it follows that it is not sound and the theory needs revision (possibly fundamental revision, possibly it cannot be revised to explain the cherry picked example at least not without falling down elsewhere and which case the theory is invalid).
I personally consider that not enough emphasis is placed upon cherry picked scenarios where the theory cannot provide an adequate explanation.
PS; A cherry picked scenario cannot prove a theory correct, however, a cherry picked scenario can prove a flaw in the theory, possible a fatal flaw.j

Dr. Lurtz
September 22, 2011 7:24 am

Evaporation of water, cools. Forests, crops, live by moisture transfer, i.e., evaporation driven. Cities live on pipes {enclosed water}, and wires {electricity}; very little evaporation.
To remove the UHI effect, we need to water our cities. 😉

richard verney
September 22, 2011 7:27 am

I fully concur with others who have said that we should concentrate on monitoring and evaluating sea temp data. For a long time I have argued that the land based record has become so bastersized that it is unreliable and since it does not even measure the right metric (joules), and since the oceans store about 99% of the energy in the Earth climate system and land air/atmosphere just about 1%, the land temperature record should be completely ditched, and we should evaluate only ocean temps.
The problem is that we do not have good quality sea temperature data extending very far back in time. Therefore it is very difficult to evaluate what has taken place during the past century, and of course, natural ocean cycles play a role in ocean temperature and you therefore need a long period before and valid extrapolations can be drawn. However, as regards the future to see the heare and now, we should concentrate just on ocean data.
Of course the Team have to much invested in their land based data records and are gate keepers to the adjustments made, so they will never agree no matter how strong the scientif case is for favouring ocean temperature data sets.

Dennis Dunton
September 22, 2011 7:32 am

The following two posts hit the nail squarely on the head.
Paul Irwin says:
September 21, 2011 at 9:13 pm
the hundreds of thousands of tons of asphalt, concrete, sidewalks, and building surface area per square mile of a city absorbs vast amounts of heat that simply must skew the urban temperature record. as air moves over and beyond urban area, it carries that heat elsewhere. i’d be willing to bet that rural areas in the prevailing downwind path of a large urban area also show a similar warming trend. the null hypothesis, i think, would be to compare the temperature trends when the wind is blowing the opposite direction.
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I have done something similar by comparing rural locations outside of the St. Louis and Kansas City metro areas using the normal prevailing winds. I found that temps downwind of these metro areas are DEFINITELY higher than their upwind counterparts.
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Jit says:
September 21, 2011 at 11:54 pm
The comparison should not be rural vs urban 1950 to now. It should be *rural in 1950, urban now* vs. *rural 1950, still rural now*. I would expect the trends in places whose land use hadn’t changed over the last 60 years to be the same, whatever they were over the period.
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Once again I have had a similar look at stations which, BASED ON PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE , of the stations in question, met this standard and found this assumption to be true.
In addition I have made actual temperature measurements in and around the small town I live in (pop 2500) and found the evening temps to be 3 to 5 deg warmer at my residence than just one mile out of town during calm nights and on nights with light breezes from the east ,west,or north east. Winds from the south do not show this difference as I live on the extreme south edge of town and to the south of me there is basically nothing but forest for hundreds of miles.

Steve Keohane
September 22, 2011 8:02 am

richard verney says:
September 22, 2011 at 7:19 am
of Newcastle says: September 21, 2011 at 8:18 pm
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Dr Spencer is suggesting that on his analysis, there are arguments supporting a conclusion that there may have been no warming in the US as from 1970. If he is right on that, that would be a very important finding.

With all the finagling of the numbers, I have wondered the same thing. The consistent discounting of land use change, UHI, station elimination and moves, and all biases in one direction, all we can come up with is a fraction of a degree in a century. I suspect this doesn’t rise above the noise. So where is the accelerating heating that is a prerequisite for catastrophe?

Edward McCann
September 22, 2011 8:32 am

What dataset are they using? If it is a homoginized dataset then the difference from Urban to Rural is smoothed out.

Jaypan
September 22, 2011 8:33 am

“Mark and two Cats says:
September 21, 2011 at 11:17 pm
The woman in the picture is a climate expert – she is outstanding in her field.”
Excellent.

beng
September 22, 2011 8:39 am

*****
Article says:
the failure to find a difference between rural and urban areas needs more investigation
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Does it? Dr Spencer found the lowest populated areas experienced the greatest UHIE increases. IOW, it’s almost impossible to find truly rural, unchanged sites, and the “rural” stations examined in this article are actually significantly affected by UHI.

Theo Goodwin
September 22, 2011 8:42 am

Dennis Dunton says:
September 22, 2011 at 7:32 am
“I have done something similar by comparing rural locations outside of the St. Louis and Kansas City metro areas using the normal prevailing winds. I found that temps downwind of these metro areas are DEFINITELY higher than their upwind counterparts.”
St. Louis is an excellent place to do UHI studies. There is the old city, the old suburbs, the new suburbs, the newer suburbs, and the newest suburbs. I lived on the border of the old city and the old suburbs for many years. I had many friends in the newer suburbs. In summer, the difference in temperature between old city and newer suburbs ranged from 6 to 12 degrees Fahrenheit. In the winter, the difference ranged from 4 to 8. Of course, the biggest difference was in summer evenings because the old city and the old suburbs cool very slowly. But they have always cooled very slowly because they were designed that way. That area is dominated by row houses.
In St. Louis, the “micro” aspect of temperature measurement becomes very important. Scientists must be sure that there is something like a fair distribution of thermometers among old city and the several suburbs. Doing this requires some scientific investigation of the several thermometer sites. Scientists must know the physical influences on individual thermometers just as Briffa should have known the physical influences on individual trees.
Scientists must report their raw data and intelligent summaries of it. Substituting statistical trend analysis for raw data proves only that the scientists are intent upon hiding the pea. (I know, working with raw data is fatiguing, but this is the age of computers.)

Theo Goodwin
September 22, 2011 8:53 am

beng says:
September 22, 2011 at 8:39 am
“Does it? Dr Spencer found the lowest populated areas experienced the greatest UHIE increases.”
You need to present his entire system of classification to make your claim meaningful. The lowest populated areas might be one percent of the total. In any case, their specific conditions must be known. If the thermometers were placed in villages of 100 and are now in towns of 1000, that could merit a special category of rapid growth.
“IOW, it’s almost impossible to find truly rural, unchanged sites, and the “rural” stations examined in this article are actually significantly affected by UHI.”
Really? Have you ever driven from St. Louis to Atlanta? There is one city on one hill, Nashville, and one large town in one gully, Chattanooga. Have you ever driven across Kansas? There are signs saying “No gasoline for 80 miles.”

Interstellar Bill
September 22, 2011 9:48 am

From Paul Irwin on September 21, 2011 at 9:13 pm:
“the hundreds of thousands of tons of asphalt, concrete, sidewalks, and building surface area per square mile of a city absorbs vast amounts of heat that simply must skew the urban temperature record.”
This points needs to be amplified by considering that all these tons are above-ground, with heat-sink style geometry presenting a much greater surface area to ambient air than the mere acreage they sit on. This means that urban heating by dark surfaces is actually ameliorated by the heat-storage capacity of all that stuff, storing some daily heat and releasing it at night.
Somebody try comparing two cities with the same total albedo
(determined from aerial photographs)
but greatly differing in their mass of above-ground build-up
(gauged by average building height).
The two places should have differing daily temp curves.