The punch line from Rex Murphy’s recent editorial in the National Post will upset sensitive readers who still think Gore is the messiah rather than a barker.
Gore’s meltdown might just be the moment when the people of the planet saw the carney show for what it was.
Heh. He is of course referring to this.
Read the entire brilliant editorial here
It is one thing to read his prose and another thing entirely to hear him speak on Climategate.
This video is from just after the Climategate story came to light and the MSN would not touch it; Rex on the other had had different ideas and used his Canadian national news segment (on the most watched newscast in Canada) to put the word out.
It is a succinct four minute condemnation of the climate science industry. Rex uses his vast vocabulary to select the specific words needed to communicate his ideas in an unambiguous way, if you understand English and have a good vocabulary there can be no misunderstanding.
Most if not all of the sentences in this video could have been ‘Quotes of the week’
Huffman has a very interesting blog. He demonstrates that the pressure/temperature profile comparison of the Earth and Venus shows that, between 1000 millibars (earth surface) and 200mb, Venus’ temperatures are consistently 1.176 higher than Earth (measurements in K degrees). It also turns out that, according to Stefan-Boltzmann when used properly, outside the earth’s atmosphere), that the radiating temperature of Venus invariably turns out to be be 1.176 higher than that on earth. The implications lead to a simple theory, proven by the data and some simple arithmetic that there is no greenhouse effect. It’s a simple theory so, if there is a rebuttal, it should be quickly demonstrable. If not easily rebutted, that already speaks to the “settled” science issues surround greenhouse gas. The few physicists who previously made this claim used rather sophisticated mathematics, probably beyond the ken of most climatologists, and those few who might have have understood probably opted not to bother because, after all, there was this “consensus” (ahem, sounds like SOP for warmists!). Gentlemen, start your engines.;…..
http://theendofthemystery.blogspot.com/2010/11/venus-no-greenhouse-effect.html
Bravo Rex. Again.
The question that should be posed to you is why you put stock in anyone’s grading of any documentary? Why not think for yourself? Why this incessant appeal to authority from the CAGW believer side?
With any luck, Gore’s upcoming “Climate Reality Project” on Sept. 14 (only 22 shopping days left!) will be his swan song. Or, maybe in his case, it should be “swine song”.
What a waste. He would have made a good used car salesman, especially of the shadier variety.
I’ll keep reading articles at this most instructive web site, but I have to say that I am more impressed by arguments that address the scientific issues than by all the argumenta ad hominem.
And I would be more likely to be converted to general viewpoint expressed on this site if someone could come up with a better explanation of the following phenomena other than that “it’s a cycle of nature” or “we just don’t know”:
— The polar ice cap is shrinking; the Northwest passage has become navigable in the summers, something that has not been true at least since the time of Frobisher, Cabot, Baffin, et. al
— About 90 % of the world’s glaciers are melting and in retreat. The age of the ice that is currently melting is indicated by occasional discoveries such as the frozen body of the ice age hunter in the Alps a few years ago
— Nights are staying warmer, world-wide, a change that makes heat waves such as the one in Europe in 2003 particularly deadly to the old and the sick
— The year of Katrina produced three hurricanes of the highest intensity in addition to Katrina — making it the first year on record when three, let alone four, achieved this level
— The overall power of tropical storms has increased by roughly 50% since the 1970s
— The number of record high temperatures being recorded world wide is now running at about twice the number of record low temperatures, indicating that something has nudged the natural variability of the weather in the direction of greater warmth.
I would welcome being shown that I have “followed a charlatan”. When I had recovered from my initial embarrassment, I would buy a large, comfortable, gas-guzzling SUV and re-enact one of my favorite books — “Travels with Charlie” — and feel no guilt. Until then, I’m staying home.
Al appears to be in stage of upset where you say things, and know you’re saying them, that are burning bridges behind you. As we used to say in a shop I worked in decades ago, “It’s usually not good to burn your bridges behind you but the flames do cast a lovely light.” Usually associated with quitting on short notice and saying why in no uncertain terms on the way out the door. 🙂
Al’s going down in flames. Do we have a thread on spontaneous human combustion?
Jesse Fell 13,000 years ago much of Northern Europe was covered in Ice , some of it a mile thick. Now due to natural changes most of it has gone , now compare the scale of that with the changes you claiming can ‘only come about becasue of AGW.’
Jesse Fell says:
August 22, 2011 at 2:01 pm
I would welcome being shown that I have “followed a charlatan”
Judging from your standard CAGW copy n’ paste laundry list of warmist talking points, and your obligatory strawman arguments of “it’s a cycle of nature” or “we just don’t know”, somehow I doubt that. Don’t you have a bridge to scurry back to somewhere?
Jesse –
I’m curious, which of those items you listed do you feel shows that an anthropogenic action, specifically emission of CO2 into the atmosphere, is the cause?
We’ve been on a slight warming trend since the end of the Little Ice Age and most reasonable folks are thankful that we are. I’m fairly certain you will not find anyone here disputing that globally we are warmer now than we were in the mid-1800’s.
Remember, the primary tenet of Gore’s gospel is that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are causing us to be moving toward catastrophic climate events.
So who is going to replace Al as the face of the next enviro scam?
Hooray for Rex! He rarely disappoints!
Jesse said:
– The polar ice cap is shrinking; the Northwest passage has become navigable in the summers, something that has not been true at least since the time of Frobisher, Cabot, Baffin, et. al
You are actually agreeing that it was at least as warm 500 years ago as it is now? So, what did cause cause Northwest passage to be navigable in 1500? All that wale oil they were burning? Incidentally, Northwest passage was quite navigable in summer months in 1930s. Again, can you explain the reason for it to be navigable then?
– About 90 % of the world’s glaciers are melting and in retreat. The age of the ice that is currently melting is indicated by occasional discoveries such as the frozen body of the ice age hunter in the Alps a few years ago
THis one really cracks me up. Glaciers are retreating and they finding things previously covered by ice. What exactly does this prove, besides that it was warmer a while back than it is now (before those newly defrosted things got covered by ice).
Fair questions, John Who.
First of all, what can explain the fact that nights are staying warmer, other than a buildup of CO2 in the atmosphere?
Then, if all we are seeing is a gradual warming that has been taking place since the Little Ice Age, what has caused this gradual trend, extending over hundreds of years, and why has the trend picked up speed in the last century — roughly, during the time when people starting pouring CO2 into the atmosphere in large quantities?
And, since it is undisputed that atmospheric CO2 absorbs heat energy radiated from the surface of the Earth in the form of infrared radiation, and then, becoming warm itself, sends some of this heat back to the surface of the Earth, again in the form of infrared radiation — how could the addition of billions of tons of CO2 to the atmosphere annually NOT be damming up heat at the Earth’s surface? What principle or force is intervening to prevent what the nature of CO2 tells to expect to happen?
The audio of it:
Al Gore: the infamous “bulls@ur momisugly#t” rant
Yes, of course, the use of the word bullshit is obviously the beginning of the end. Is this opinion piece by Rexmurphy really the best that the alarmists can muster? Rexmurphy forgot to address any of the points Mr. Gore was saying bs to. Another alarmist opinion piece written so that the believers will have something to post on their blogs. An uninspiring personal attack.
Loved some of the comments that Murphy is not a scientist, like Algore is. The moron couldn’t even pass theology. The final nail in the coffin of AGW was anounced by NASA and virtually ignored by the MSM. Long wave radiation (heat) escaping into space has not changed since 1978 measured by satellite data despite the massive build up of CO2 at the rate of 1.5 parts per million per year. Every one of the computer models used by the so-called scientists utilize equations that ignore this reality. No wonder that their predictions are catastrophic. Not one of these models has been able to history match the actual temperatures when taken back to 1900 without using fudge factors(artificial manipulations to force the correct answer that the model can’t calculate.)
Jesse Fell says:
August 22, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Fair questions, John Who.
First of all, what can explain the fact that nights are staying warmer, other than a buildup of CO2 in the atmosphere?
Any of a number of things, Jesse.
Here’s the problem, you (the Warmist collective) must show that it is the CO2 in the atmosphere that is causing anything in the climate. Then show that not only can it cause a change in the climate, but the change is enough to be either noticeable or detectable.
The “I think it is CO2 now you prove me wrong, but in the meantime let’s all change our way of life because, well, because “Al Gore said”” argument doesn’t do well here.
Then, if all we are seeing is a gradual warming that has been taking place since the Little Ice Age, what has caused this gradual trend, extending over hundreds of years, and why has the trend picked up speed in the last century — roughly, during the time when people starting pouring CO2 into the atmosphere in large quantities?
Uh, I’ll wait here while you discover that over the warming trend of the last 100 years (including the last 10 years or so there has been absolutely no significant increase in the warming trend “speed” at all. It’ll make you wonder – if the warming trend is roughly the same now as it has been for about 150 years, whatever started it is continuing at roughly the same rate very much independently of the rising of the CO2 level (which also may be an effect of this cause).
I know – Al Gore doesn’t teach that, so it just can’t be.
And, since it is undisputed that atmospheric CO2 absorbs heat energy radiated from the surface of the Earth in the form of infrared radiation, and then, becoming warm itself, sends some of this heat back to the surface of the Earth, again in the form of infrared radiation — how could the addition of billions of tons of CO2 to the atmosphere annually NOT be damming up heat at the Earth’s surface? What principle or force is intervening to prevent what the nature of CO2 tells to expect to happen?
Gee, I dunno, Jesse. I guess we will just have to re-write all of the historical climate temperature records ’cause there were times when the atmospheric CO2 levels were much higher than they are now and the planet’s “global” temperature was cooler than it is now.
Darned inconvenient that historical data, isn’t it? Hmmm… now that I think about it, the current data is a bit inconvenient, too, isn’t it?
/trending sarc
jozwhales,
Please try to pay attention. Rex Murphy is certainly not a member of the alarmist cult. And he was responding to the Climategate emails, not to Gore’s recent complaints. Gore’s rant came about two years after Rex’s video.
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Jesse Fell says:
“First of all, what can explain the fact that nights are staying warmer, other than a buildup of CO2 in the atmosphere?”
That is a classic example of the Argumentum ad Ignorantium fallacy: “Since I can’t think of any other cause, then it must be CO2.”
Maybe this explains it.
Seriously, where’s the correlation? The planet has been warming along the same trend line since the 1600’s, and the warming has not been accelerating. The correlation with the rise in CO2 may simply be a coincidence. If we get a few cold years, it’s almost certainly a coincidental correlation.
Jesse Fell, I was going to rebut your points item by item, but I don’t need to. It is incumbent upon you to demonstrate the null hypothesis, that all these things you mention (some of which I do dispute) are NOT naturally caused. In the meantime, I will assume they are, as these things HAVE occured before.
When your bull$hit moment is on youtube, you are toast.
“First of all, what can explain the fact that nights are staying warmer, other than a buildup of CO2 in the atmosphere? ”
Increased urbanization and irrigation in rural areas are two that come immediately to mind.
Of course, one has to question the premise of your statement itself, since the most recent peer reviewed literature contradicts the statement that “nights are staying warmer”.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/05/19/according-to-the-best-sited-stations-the-diurnal-temperature-range-in-the-lower-48-states-has-no-century-scale-trend/
Jesse – the climate varies naturally. It would be very unnatural for it to always stay in one place. One aspect of climate – temperature – has gone up and it has gone down as much or more than you have seen in your life time. It will never remain constant, and it will never always go in one direction or another. It never has – it can’t. There are too many drivers at work to allow it.
John M says:
August 22, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Anecdotally, I live in the same house I occupied growing up as a teen in the ’60’s. I remember many hot, dry summer days that for weeks at a time got into the mid- to upper-90’s, even hitting 100 or 101 on occasion. We had many summers that produced delicious red tomatoes from our garden.
However, during last year’s summer we had just 5 days where the temperature was 90 or better–the official record showed 90, 90, 90, 91, 93. Nothing close to 100; nothing 90 or above on consecutive days.
This summer is not much different–we’ve had 7 days where the temperature was 90 or better–just add a couple of 90’s to last year’s temperature records and that’s it. Again, nothing close to 100 but we’ve had a couple of consecutive days of 90 or better–maybe an improvement.
I’m hoping I’ll get some red tomatoes out of my garden this summer (17 big beautiful plants 5′ tall) but I’m not betting on it. I hate frozen green tomatoes.