As reported by the NYT. Oops. Now we know why we heard the real Gore speaking, not just the made for TV version of Al. And… due to this story going viral, we get the “Full Monty” at last.
From AspenJournalism.org
These remarks were recorded in the Doerr-Hosier Center, where the event took place, through the center’s sound board. The reporter who recorded them, Brent Gardner-Smith, had a press pass to the event and was recording what he understood to be remarks that were also being streamed on the Internet and were therefore public.
Here’s the essence of Gore’s “bullshit” remarks in high quality audio, plus other highlights we haven’t heard before.
Below is the audio of his entire talk, nearly 90 minutes.
…and the highlights, with notes below:
:03 on the lack of online business models that can support investigative reporting
:56 On Tahir Square being more literal and metaphorical, including emergence of new consciousness
4:44 does not buy that the Internet is inherently polarizing
6:36 On assumptions regarding free markets
7:23 on the workings of the brain and distraction
8:39 our culture is based on distraction
9:00 on dominance of money in campaigns
9:37 fools errand to try and change campaign finance laws, but Internet can help
10:19 need for public square
11:14 has to be a neutral place to share common information
12:23 on effort to pin 9/11 on Saddam Hussein
14:18 recent debt debate also influenced by propaganda
15:19 on creating a shared reality online
16:18 problem-solving requires “a single reality”
17:11 reason can triumph over wealth and power, but in the TV age, wealth and power triumph
18:37 on the importance of New York and DC to PR efforts
19:39 how the debt ceiling debate was influenced by TV ads
20:19 share reality helped make the U.S. great, now we’re making bad decisions without it
21:05 tobacco interests fighting back on TV in the ’60s
21:47 On “The Merchants of Doubt” and tobacco regulation
22:46 On the use of propaganda in the climate debate. (The “bullshit” cut).
23:36 No longer acceptable to even use the word “climate.”
“They pay pseudo-scientists to pretend to be scientists to put out the message” seems like it would be more accurate used on Gore and his ilk than actual respected scientists simply stating the truth about this crock.
And this should finish the night off BBC in big S@ur momisugly@@ur momisugly.
http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2010/02/fingers-in-pies.html
Hey Al, what science training do you have? (Cue crickets please!)
Eisenhower addressed this very point in a rarely-quoted segment of his famous military-industrial complex speech, in 1961:
“The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.”
Plato said in the Republic:
Either kings must become philosophers or philosophers must become kings. Making scientists into politicians or public icons is something akin to the latter, but begs the question: how does the ethos of understanding the physical world relate to the ethos of understanding people? From my experience, they do not often go hand-in-hand.
This is a classic case of someone being seduced by his own advertizing, and it is a fatal tendency.
RoyFOMR says:
OK- for clarification let me replace the words ’200+ individuals’ with 200 Million+ talented individuals!
Try again Roy! I believe the US population passed 200 million sometime in the ’70s. It’s over 300 million now.
When you get found out as a fraud – you rant, you don’t apologise.
This is a normal human reaction.
Gore can read the tea-leaves as well as anyone. And when his little carbon empire comes crashing down, he’ll activate Plan B. Big Al and some unemployed climate modelers will form a pop music group. It’ll be known as the Al Gore Rhythms. 🙂
He doesn’t seem to realize that he is the “tobacco” salesman who is denying the science. — John M Reynolds
I wonder what this will do to Al Gore’s standing in the corporate speaker business. People can now get a very good idea of what they are going to get before they part with money and they might not be all that impressed by what Gore has to say.
Isn’t the swearing, the passion and the reported knowledge that Al knew nothing about the streaming, and so was off-guard, just a viral campaign by the AGW movement? When an organised movement like this wave its right hand, you should be looking at what is is doing with the left.
So they asked him to speak and Al just delivered his stool samples per usual?
“The reporter who recorded them, Brent Gardner-Smith […]”
I’m going to keep my eyes and ears open for any news reports of a “tragic accident” happening to Mr. Gardner-Smith in the coming months. He did a very big no-no and I don’t think Don Vito Gorelioni was pleased. ;o)
And people pay big money to listen to this idiot? I’ve never heard such a load of absolute crap.
RoyFOMR says:
August 9, 2011 at 9:54 pm
“I love democrasy but, sometimes, just have to say thanks to FLA”
Don’t just thank us, it was the great State of Tennessee ( Big Al’s home state) that didn’t vote for him either.
transcript?
“None of the guys in his unit in Vietnam could stand this fraud.” He was a hero of the journalistic corps, wasn’t he?
This poor fellow is getting more bizarre as time passes.
So this is what eco-nuts talk like behind closed doors? Hey Al, you need to make sure the door is closed.
In a different time and place, he would make a great dictator. One reality, his. Woe betide anyone refusing to go along with that one reality.
He got a D- in the subject that launched his ministry. Kind of gives you warm fuzzies to know the man who wants to remake the world in his own image basically flunked science. (not)
Why are y’all so upset? You guys here ARE bullshitting the world. Some of you are probably wondering when the prayers of that Perry guy are finally going to work and will put an end to the unrelenting heat and drought in Texas (to mention one example of the statistically clearly increasing number of record heat). Oh, I forgot, the weather outside is not real, it’s Al Gore with a giant furnace pestering you. Or it’s the devil incarnate tempting you with evidence for arhhgglobal warming. Evidence? Defined as: what FAUX-news tell you is as true as the bible?
Doug Badgero says:
Spot on, Doug. Gore is the LEAST qualified to critique climate “pseudoscientists”. Why, talk about abject stupidity–Gore is the quintisential example. He’s also a prime example of conflict of interest.
Good one, Larry Fields: (Al Gore Rhythms–for those of you who are a bit slow: “algorithms”). However, his preferred algorithms for climate are as tainted as his language.
a follow-up and a bit of “cover” for gore!
10 Aug: Tennessean: Karen Lee-Ryan: Al Gore’s expletives make waves on Internet
Some websites have posted the audio saying Gore is “losing it” or has become “unhinged” or is “irate” during his remarks, but the first reporter to break the story disagrees.
“Those reports are out of context,” says Brent Gardner-Smith, editor of the non-profit Aspen Journalism. “He wanted to make a point about how false information gets injected into democratic debate.”
However, Gardner-Smith, who initially reported the story on Thursday and has watched it go viral today, says “I raised my eyebrows at the language…but it was appropriate in the context. Still startling, but appropriate.”
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110809/NEWS08/110809019/Al-Gore-s-expletives-make-waves-Internet-audio-
I wonder when Gore will establish his climate-haven, perhaps to be called “Gore-town” where green individuals (we understand the dual meaning and irony involved) would be able to be totally “safe” from the predations of deniers and climate disruption….forever?
p.s. I suspect that “Gore-town” will remain fictive with a population of exactly 1, unless even he doesn’t believe his utterances.