Bring it, Mr. Wirth – a challenge

UPDATE (Sunday 6/26 8:30AM): After choosing the quote of the week this week (see above here) I’ve come to the conclusion that former Senator Wirth is mentally incapable of debating the issue in a rational manner, would likely not respond, and thus there is no point in keeping this as a top post. – A

Former Senator Tim Wirth invoked the nuclear option yesterday. Small mushroom clouds are now appearing across the world as people read what he said. This is my response to him. It will remain the top post for the next few days or until Mr. Wirth responds to the offer made below.

I got the email about this bit of climate ugliness just after having dinner Friday night. I couldn’t do anything about it while I was driving home from Sacramento then, and it is a good thing, because it made me quite angry. The hour long drive gave me time to think about it and remember what the world was like before global warming supposedly made the weather worse.

First, let me remind everyone who former Senator Tim Wirth is. For that, we have to go back to June 1988. Dr. James Hansen is getting ready to testify before the Senate on what he thinks is a serious problem, global warming. The sponsor for Dr. Hansen? Senator Tim Wirth.

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/hansen_1988_congress.jpg?w=640

Dr. James Hansen testifies on global warming, June 1988

If we left it there, there would really be nothing to say beyond the fact that he’s the guy who put Hansen in front of the Senate and launched the cause. But Senator Wirth was culpable in foisting stagecraft onto the Senate to make them “feel” the problem in the form of a well crafted lie.

If any of you have ever been in Washington DC during the summertime, you’ll be able to relate to this. Senator Timothy Wirth made sure that room was “steamy”. This transcript excerpt is from PBS series Frontline which aired a special in April 2007. Here he admits his stagecraft in his own words:

TIMOTHY WIRTH: We called the Weather Bureau and found out what historically was the hottest day of the summer. Well, it was June 6th or June 9th or whatever it was. So we scheduled the hearing that day, and bingo, it was the hottest day on record in Washington, or close to it.

DEBORAH AMOS: [on camera] Did you also alter the temperature in the hearing room that day?

TIMOTHY WIRTH: What we did is that we went in the night before and opened all the windows, I will admit, right, so that the air conditioning wasn’t working inside the room. And so when the- when the hearing occurred, there was not only bliss, which is television cameras and double figures, but it was really hot.[Shot of witnesses at hearing]

Watch the Frontline video here. [UPDATE: The Frontline video has gone missing, but here it is on YouTube]

So it goes without saying, that if the case Dr. Hansen was to make before the Senate was so strong, why did Senator Wirth need to make use of cheap stage tricks?

And, why would anybody trust this man’s opinion on climate today, knowing this?

Well yesterday, the former senator insulted the Jewish race people with the tired old “denier” label, then set his foot on fire, then stuck it in his mouth trying to tell about half of the US population (according to recent polls) that he’s “coming after them” because they don’t share his opinion.

From CNS News, an extraordinary story coming out of a UN press briefing Wirth participated in, here’s the relevant portions:

Former Dem Senator: Climate Change Caused U.S. Floods, Fires; We Need ‘Aggressive Campaign To Go After’ ‘Deniers’

Friday, June 24, 2011

By Michael W. Chapman

Sen. Wirth said: “Well, Barbara, that’s again, back to the major question we’ve been talking about. First, you and I know that while you can’t predict exactly from the climate models what’s going to happen, we know that the overall trend is going to be increased drought, increased flooding, increased number of fires – and we’re seeing exactly that sort of thing in the United States today with increased flooding this last year, with the fires that have swept, raging through Arizona and western New Mexico and Texas, the kind of dramatic climate impact that we have seen in the United States already. Slowly but surely, people are going to connect the dots. They’re gonna’ understand that this is precisely the kind of significant change that has been predicted and that we’re slowly but surely seeing.

“Happily, there are people like those in, the weather forecasters who’ve come together, you know, into a major group to try to discuss and to understand the impacts and how to explain climate change and climate impacts when they’re doing the evening news and talking about the weather, which is where most people in the United States get their information. That’s going to be, I think over a period of time, an extremely important set of steps to take.

“We also have to do a better job of having the scientific community being able to explain what they’re doing and how they’re doing it and why they’re doing it in very clear terms that are understandable to 300 million Americans.

“Third, we have to, I think, again as I’ve suggested before, undertake an aggressive program to go after those who are among the deniers, who are putting out these mistruths, and really call them for what they’re doing and make a battle out of it.  They’ve had pretty much of a free ride so far, and that time has got to stop.

Here’s the audio clip, Wirth’s remarks are at about the 3 minute mark.

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I can’t print my initial reaction.

First let’s address Mr. Wirth’s claims of “increased drought, increased flooding, increased number of fires”.

To do that, we have to assume his claim relates to Dr. Jim Hansen’s warning in 1988 that increased CO2 in the atmosphere from the then 350 parts per million, to the now 390 parts per million made the claim of “increased drought, increased flooding, increased number of fires” happen.

Wirth probably isn’t familiar with the revolutions in technology making worldwide reporting a nearly instantaneous event. I address that issue here: Why it seems that severe weather is “getting worse” when the data shows otherwise – a historical perspective.

It seems like we get more of these things because news media and social media and people with cameras and cell phones are everywhere. Take for example the train crash today in the desert east of Reno, NV, which was covered mostly by citizens on the scene. Hardly anything escapes electronic notice anymore.

Second, Wirth’s hero, Dr. James Hansen, claims that we need to return to 350 parts per million of CO2 in the atmosphere to keep the Earth “safe” and avoid what Wirth claims we are seeing. An entire cult following has developed around this number, thanks to Bill McKibben and his 350.org eco-worriers.

That 350 number isn’t based on peer reviewed science. Hansen’s 2008 paper citing the 350 number was NOT peer reviewed, nor even published in a journal at the time. he just foisted it onto his website and a compliant press distributed it without question. No, that 350 number is based on the fact that was the value of CO2 when Jim Hansen and Wirth set this story loose in the Senate with the stagecraft. As Andy at NYT says “Back to 1988 on CO2, Says NASA’s Hansen

1987   348.99

1988   351.44

1989   352.90

Source: ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_annmean_mlo.txt

So if what Wirth says is true, we probably didn’t have much in the way of ” increased drought, increased flooding, increased number of fires” back around the time of that magic 350 ppm number right?

Let’s have a look:

Drought:

The most severe drought in California’s history was the 1987-1992 drought. It is the drought Californians are most familiar with due to its recency and severity.

North America as a whole has experienced numerous droughts. When pioneers first began settling the Great Plains, they were told that “rain follows the plow.” However, it was an unusually rainy period. In the late 1880s drought struck and over half of the settlers lost their land. Many people are familiar with the Dust Bowl of the 1930s and the lesser drought of the 1950s. What many people don’t recognize, however, is that over the past 400 years droughts equivalent to the 1950s drought have occurred several times per century (Priest et al., 1993; NOAA Paleoclimatological Program, 2000).

Source: College of the Siskiyous

And it wasn’t just California, it seems India was hit hard in 1987, when CO2 was 349 ppm.

India’s Drought Is Worst in Decades

By STEVEN R. WEISMAN, Special to the New York Times

Published: August 16, 1987

”I am 75 years old, and I have never seen anything this bad,” said Naufat Mohammed, a white-bearded farmer, looking at the cracked earth around a well. ”This is God’s will, but God is angry with us.”

The drought, which Government officials say is unprecedented in intensity, has already spread through most of the country, hitting hardest in the northern grain belts. There wells, reservoirs and water tanks are running at dangerously low levels or are already dry. Rain 75% Below Normal

No mention of CO2 or global warming in that article, they just blame God. It works  just as well.

It seems the drought continued in the USA though summer 1988. Just a few weeks after Jim Hansen and Tim Wirth scared the bejesus out of a bunch of sweaty senators, Time Magazine put up this cover story:

Time, July 4th, 1988 CO2 at 350 ppm

Of course, in the US, drought was worse in 1934 when CO2 was at something around 290 ppm

The extent and severity of the driest year of the Dust Bowl in the United States as indicated by the Palmer Drought Severity Index, 1934

The extent and severity of the driest year of the Dust Bowl in the United States, 1934

Source: National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, 2000

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Flooding:

One only has to look at Dartmouth’s 1988 Global Register of Extreme Flood Events to see that 1988 was a busy year in flooding globally while CO2 was at 350 ppm.

Bangladesh got the worst of it that year.  Monsoon rains flooded about two-thirds of Bangladesh in 1988, killing nearly 5000 people and destroying farm animals and crops.

www.itnsource.com

But even though much of the USA had drought conditions in 1988 when CO2 was at a “safe” level of 350 ppm, there were still some significant flood events:

U.S. Floods of 1988

By C.A. Perry, B.N. Aldridge, and H.C. Ross of the USGS

Many areas throughout the United States were affected by drought conditions in 1988. There were few significant widespread floods. A few flash floods occurred during the summer months due to localized, intense rains from thunderstorms. Several flash floods occurred during the summer.

On April 1 and 2, southern Kansas received 3 to 7 in. of localized rain, which caused flash floods. New Orleans, Louisiana, received 7 to 9 in. of rain on April 1 and 2 . Severe flooding occurred, and $18 million in damages resulted. Albuquerque, New Mexico, had $3 million in damages as a result of flash flooding on July 5-9.

Tropical Storm Beryl hit Louisiana and Mississippi in early August. The storm brought as much as 15 in. of rain to coastal counties of Mississippi. Significant flooding occurred on the Biloxi River in Mississippi.

Hurricane Gilbert, the first category five hurricane to make landfall since 1969, struck Louisiana and Texas on September 15 through 19. The storm caused coastal floods in Louisiana and produced excessive rains across Texas and Oklahoma.

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Fires:

Fires approach the Old Faithful Complex on September 7, 1988.

Well, who could forget the year of fires in 1988, especially at Yellowstone just three months after the Jim and Tim show before the Senate? The Yellowstone fires of 1988 together formed the largest wildfire in the recorded history of the U.S.’s Yellowstone National Park.

The Yellowstone fires of 1988 were unprecedented in the history of the National Park Service, and many questioned existing fire management policies.

California and Texas had major wildfires in 1988 too, with Texas having in March the Big Country Fire burning 366,000 acres. In 1988, while CO2 was at that “safe” 350 ppm level there was also the Great Lashio Fire, Lashio, Myanmar, with 134 killed , and 2000 buildings destroyed. I’ll bet Mr. Wirth, you never heard about that one.

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So with all these horrible disasters happening in 1988 while Jim and Tim were turning off the AC and opening windows in the Senate hearing room to get all those senators hot and bothered over global warming at 350 ppm of CO2 concentration, the world went on as usual with droughts, fires, and floods, just like it is doing today.

But our former senator Wirth “knows” that the present batch of drought, floods, and fires are caused by that 40 parts per million increase since 1988. Those same events in 1988 must have had another cause because CO2 was at the “safe” 350 ppm level back then.

So Mr. Wirth, I call BS on your statement, and in my opinion, your opinion on the matters of “increased drought, increased flooding, increased number of fires” is what I would describe as not grounded in historic reality, or henceforth to be known as wirthless.

And yet, you say “…as I’ve suggested before,undertake an aggressive program to go after those who are among the deniers, who are putting out these mistruths, and really call them for what they’re doing and make a battle out of it.

Alrighty then. Mr. Wirth, let me give you the perfect venue by which to challenge skeptics, a “target rich environment” if you will. It’s right in your old stomping grounds in Washington DC, so it should be no trouble for you.

Next week, on June 30th and July 1st, hundreds of skeptics, including me, will be in Washington for a conference.

6th International Conference on Climate Change: June 30-July 1

The Sixth International Conference on Climate Change will be held in Washington, DC on June 30 – July 1, 2011 at the Mariott Wardman Park, 2660 Woodley Road NW. Timothy Ball, Ph.D., Larry Bell, Ph.D., Robert “Bob” Carter, Hon. FRSNZ, Steve Goreham, S. Fred Singer, Ph.D., and Roy W. Spencer, Ph.D. are among the confirmed speakers.

STANDING OFFER TO TIM WIRTH:

Federal and state elected officials can attend ICCC6 for free, but I’m sure Heartland will also open that offer to you as a former elected official.

I’m the first session speaker on June 30th, and to give you ample opportunity to tell the worldwide skeptic community what your plan is to “go after” us and “make a battle of it”  I yield my 15 minutes to the former Democratic Senator from Colorado.

I’ll sit quietly and respectfully during that 15 minutes sir, and then it will be our turn to tell you what we know.

Mr. Wirth, this offer is genuine.

If your intent is genuine, bring it. I’ll expect to see you there, as you won’t find a better venue or opportunity to make good on your threats. You may find though, that skeptics won’t threaten you back, but will engage you in a factual discourse if you are up to it. I predict though you have not the intestinal fortitude. Prove me wrong.

You can contact me at this web link, or contact Heartland directly here. Given their longstanding policy of inviting the opposition, I’m certain they’ll work to make it happen and I’ll gladly assist.

– Anthony Watts

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Brian Johnson uk

Inevitably one of many puns but the AGW exponent in the above missive is making Wirth-less
claims.

John A

If Wirth speaks at the ICCC, can I have the popcorn concession?

cinbadthesailor

A new wave of McCarthyism is rolled out!

DN

Nicely done, Anthony; best throwdown since Kurt Russel asked Billy Bob in “Tombstone” whether he was gonna do somethin’, “or just stand there and bleed?”
Don’t hold your breath, though. For the professional warmists, it’s always been about ideology, the “narrative”, and what they want to believe. It’s never been about evidence. You can’t use logic, reason or observed data to deconstruct a position that wasn’t built on them in the first place.

Ziiex Zeburz

As a politician, this man found his place, you got it right Anthony,” Wirthless”

Alicia Frost

I hate to be the bearer of bad news Mr Watts but this site and real climate are coming close to being irrelevant as all things seems to be pointing to no problem or maybe an ice age

john edmondson

Wirth won’t show.

An excellent exposé, Anthony but …

Well yesterday, the former senator insulted the Jewish race with the tired old “denier” label [emphasis added -hro]

There are Jewish people, most of whom follow – to varying degrees – the religion of Judaism; but there is not now – and never has been – a “Jewish race”.
Would you mind changing that phrase?! Thanks 🙂

Ed Zuiderwijk

Ok Mr W. come after me. I’ll be waiting … with my hockey stick.

gnomish

ha ha! good on ya, mr. watts!
bring us his head

The climate warming crooks at the Common Purpose controlled UEA CRU can come after me any time they choose and I’ll be ready and waiting.
bwaahhhh!

“Go after” the deniers implies a campaign of persecution, and this climate bigot actually thinks that skeptics have gotten free ride?
Good, dignified response Anthony (especially considering your understandable anger). Challenge Wirth to debate, watch him swirm out, then add him to the list of cowardly warmists who refuse to engage in civilised discussion.

Julian in Wales

Good offer. This is his chance to proove his sincerity, if he ignores your offer you know he has no interest is seeking the truth through science and debate.

Jimmy Haigh

Wirth, like the rest of them, is all hot air…

TBear (Warm Cave in Cold-as-Snow-Sydney)

Nice post but, well, the likes of Mr Wirth just don’t do serious debate. They never have. They never will.
Propogandists are all about one-way information flows. Soft-ball interviews with compliant media hosts/`interviewers’, is, in this day and age, their usual go.
The Bear bets his cave that `Wirth’ will duck, or simply av oid the offer.

Ken in VA

With any luck, Marriott’s A/C will crash the night before.

Archonix

So much for the new tone in politics?

kadaka (KD Knoebel)

His recent comments would be deplorable enough coming from one of the common deluded, but former Senator Wirth was a deceiver from the get-go.
I have too much respect for human excrement to consider him a piece of it.

Rob

cinbadthesailor: “A new wave of McCarthyism is rolled out!”
Well Mr McCarthy at least had the advantage that he was almost right, and he was on the right track.
But even Mr McCarthy didn’t begin to appreciate the true scale of what was really going on (all confirmed by documentation that became available with the fall of the Soviet Union).

Lew Skannen

This will probably be a rerun of the famous James Cameron wimp-out at the OK Corral.
It will be amusing to watch.
My guess is that he will be all set to take you down, kick yourt ass and wipe the floor with you… only to discover that he has a dentist appointment that day…

Shevva

How often do priests get into a theological debate about there religion?
I’d make plans for Mr Wirth not turning up Antony and remember your blood pressure last thing us WUWT lurkers need is something happening to you.

If he turns up, give him a small ante room to wait in where the windows have been left open all night.

There you go again, Anthony – littering your argument with facts.
Great post!

Anthony the Frontline video link of Wirth’s smug tale has magically disappeared.

Alan T

A typo is in the standing offer- it says July 30th instead of June 30th. I wouldn’t want Mr. Wirth to “accidentally” miss his opportunity to set us proles straight. Surely the Enlightenment would follow.

fenbeagle

Well, at least he’s not after small dogs in Lincolnshire……Is he?

Anthony why don’t you let him post here? After all you do say you want to give him a forum to address skeptics.

Orkneygal

It is so sad that the modern environmental movement has been hijacked by the CAGW alarmists. So many real world problems are being ignored or put on the rear burners as a result of the true believers religious like belief that essential plant food is somehow a pollutant. So many other of the world’s problems are being left behind while the world governments throw good money after bad on the IPCC crowd and their junk science “research”.
Over-fishing of the oceans.
Destruction of native habitats.
Slash and burn agriculture.
Pollution of inland and coastal waters by agricultural and industrial run-offs.
Poaching of endangered animals.
Lack of clean water in much of the third world.
Preventable diseases, especially among children lacking basic immunization.
Under-education of girls.
Enslavement of children and often their Mothers.
The selling of virginity of girls.
Poverty and impoverishment.
Killing of innocent civilians in wars of retribution.
Are all real problems of today that suffer because the environmentally minded have been tricked into believing that global warming is due to human activity in the first place and a bad thing in the second and more important than all of these other problems that are real today, not some computer projection of the future. Shame on them for embracing this drivel.
In a hundred years people will read about CAGW and shake their heads in disbelief that so many people were tricked by such a small group of scoundrels. They will put CAGW in the same scientific category as Geocentrics, Cold Fusion, Piltdown Man and The Fountain of Youth. In the future, the parallels between the IPCC the Yakuza will be studied by PhD candidates in History and Sociology. Carbon emission reduction schemes will be likened to Medieval bleeding, Papal indulgences and witch burning.
Meanwhile, as the CAGW alarmists become even more desperate and shrill, the real problems of the real world fester on and on. The truly environmentally minded find it all so sickening.

Dave

Most people, especially politicians and those in the media, know nothing about the shenanigans of June 1988 in Washington DC. How can the majority of the world`s people now be informed of this scandalous misleading trick?

John Marshall

Historically the worst flood in Bangladesh history was 1883, or there abouts. Bangladesh did not exist as a country then so it will be discounted.
Fires in Australia a few years ago was blamed on Global Warming. The truth is that in the year before the Greens had forced a law preventing home owners clearing weed growth from their gardens to ‘help the environment’. This plant matter provided plenty of fuel for the fires when they did start, which was nearly an annual event. Many people died as a result of this stupid law.

Peter Miller

History is littered with political ranters like Wirth, spewing out scary nonsense in an attempt to influence what they hope are an impressionable gullible public. Unfortunately, a few of these ranters are sometimes successful and some form of disaster inevitably follows.
The fact that the scary stories have no substance – as demonstrated by Anthony’s post – is irrelevant, as somehow or other the more you tell the same lie, the more likely it is to become a generally accepted “truth”.
Hansen, Wirth and the Team know this and not surprisingly it is the cornerstone of their alarmist spreading strategy.
There is one thing we can be certain of: In a few years from now, ‘climate science’ will be remembered in the same way as we remember the Phlogiston Theory today – a convenient idea, which made sort of sense at the time, but one which did not stand up to scrutiny.

P Wilson

Don’t hold your breath. Since advocates are peddling a bogus theory, they are unlikely to defend it to sceptics face to face. They make empty threats instead, but soon back down after giving consideration to the fact that sceptics often have a greater grasp of physics and climate than them

Dave in Delaware

I do not think he will show for the first session. Still, best to correct what appears to be a typo in the link ( that should say JUNE 30th, I believe)
STANDING OFFER TO TIM WIRTH:
“I’m the first session speaker on July 30th, and to …”
REPLY: Fixed, thanks -A

“undertake an aggressive program to go after those who are among the deniers”
Perhaps Mr Wirth is planning to set up a ‘Committee for Anti Climatic Activities’ henceforth to be known as CACA.

pokerguy

There’s no Jewish race. It’s like saying the Protestant race. It’s true, that the Jewish religion tends to be “robust” down through the generations, giving Jews a strong sense of collective identity, especially since they can trace their existence back to the days of the Old Testament.
Judaism is derived from that sense of identity, and a shared history and religion. But it is most emphatically not a race. There are Jews from many different parts of the world with many different ethnicities…

gnomish

heh- tallbloke – it will be anticlimatic cuz he won’t show

Cowards never attack openly. There is a greater chance of me becoming a millionaire by the time I’m done typing this sentence than for the senator to appear and debate with you. Just remember that his day is done. These are the last desperate attacks of a dying religion.

Pycho the magnificent !

“Anthony why don’t you let him post here?”
Sorry I have seen nothing on here that makes me think anyone has stopped Mr Wirth from posting a response to any comment made !
This is a free and open forum which he chooses not to use , that’s his fail not Anthonys!

Stacey

In the unlikely event that this foul mouthed bigot turned up the problem would be that you can’t reason with unreasonable people.

David Spurgeon

Wish there were 6 rating stars at the end of that article, Anthony – or 7 or 8 or 9 or……
Just great !
But do mind your BP though -good men are scarce. 🙂

Eyal Porat

hro001 says:
June 25, 2011 at 2:10 am
“…but there is not now – and never has been – a “Jewish race”.”
Too bad Hitler didn’t know that… a lot of “non-jews” lives could have been spared.

Tim Wirth, former Sen. for CO.
Set the warming debate all aglow
His logic is Wirthless
His delivery mirthless
And his manner stinks more than B.O.

huishi

I think it would be great to get up a full scale debate. Five important alarmists v. five skeptics. The teams could have 20 or 30 people on them, but limit the on-stage debate teams to 5 is my idea.
The topic would be CO2 and its effects, or lack thereof, and the record of climate history. Are we experiencing anything dramatically different than in previous times?
A day long event filmed and put on climate blogs (and any other interested news outlet) across the world. I would love to see JoNova on the debate team as she looks better than Mr. Watts. 🙂 I think the debate should be held on one of the Caribbean Islands. (hurry while they are still above water!)
What about a prize? We could get donations from people around the world to fund a prize that would go to the winner’s favorite charity as a pot-sweetener to get the “consensus team” to come and play. Perhaps even give half the prize to each side so that they would know that they were doing good for charity.
There must be some way to get the alarmists on a stage someplace where they had to defend their ideas in a fair fight. Must be someway.

Bloke down the pub

Unfortunately, as the MSM will not cover your offer to the former senator. the uninformed majority of the general public will not be aware of the BS that Wirth is producing and will accept his comments at face value.

Eyal Porat

hro001 says:
June 25, 2011 at 2:10 am
pokerguy says:
June 25, 2011 at 3:33 am
“…there is not now – and never has been – a “Jewish race”.”
It is a pity Hitler did not know what you know… many innocent lives would have been spared.

Curiousgeorge

A little song for Mr. Wirth, in mirth.
Sir Joseph’s Song
from H.M.S. Pinafore
When I was a lad I served a term
As office boy to an Attorney’s firm.
I cleaned the windows and I swept the floor,
And I polished up the handle of the big front door.
I polished up that handle so carefullee
That now I am the Ruler of the Queen’s Navee!
As office boy I made such a mark
That they gave me the post of a junior clerk.
I served the writs with a smile so bland,
And I copied all the letters in a big round hand–
I copied all the letters in a hand so free,
That now I am the Ruler of the Queen’s Navee!
In serving writs I made such a name
That an articled clerk I soon became;
I wore clean collars and a brand-new suit
For the pass examination at the Institute,
And that pass examination did so well for me,
That now I am the Ruler of the Queen’s Navee!
Of legal knowledge I acquired such a grip
That they took me into the partnership.
And that junior partnership, I ween,
Was the only ship that I ever had seen.
But that kind of ship so suited me,
That now I am the Ruler of the Queen’s Navee!
I grew so rich that I was sent
By a pocket borough into Parliament.
I always voted at my party’s call,
And I never thought of thinking for myself at all.
I thought so little, they rewarded me
By making me the Ruler of the Queen’s Navee!
Now landsmen all, whoever you may be,
If you want to rise to the top of the tree,
If your soul isn’t fettered to an office stool,
Be careful to be guided by this golden rule–
Stick close to your desks and never go to sea,
And you all may be rulers of the Queen’s Navee!
W.S. Gilbert

Robb876

[snip. No d-word references, please. ~dbs, mod.]

Bruce Cobb

“Slowly but surely, people are going to connect the dots.” Yes indeed, Mr. Wirth, they are “connecting the dots, which is why the CAGW scam is on its way out, as well as lying, delusional pols such as yourself who continue pushing your pseudoscientific manmade climate change religion.
So, you want to “go after” climate skeptics/realists? Go ahead, climate punk; make our day.

NikFromNYC

This is the same guy who is the Club of Rome member and UN Foundation head who was quoted as being of the opinion that: “We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.”
Reference: “Science Under Siege,” by Michael Fumento,1996, p362

fredb

I don’t think Wirth will show, but not because of any of the reasons above. Strategically, if you’re invited to debate an opposing view which you believe has no credence (as it seems is Wirth’s opinion of anti-AGW arguments), then you’ve lost the debate minute you accept, because merely by accepting you legitimize the intellectual value of the opposing view. Thus Wirth will not show!