Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
Why do people not sign their own names to what they write on the internet, and in particular on this blog? I thought I’d ask people this in the form of an anonymous poll. But before I do that, I want to get the full range of possibilities, so I’ve decided to crowdsource the poll questions. To date I have a number of possible reasons someone might give for posting anonymously, which are not mutually exclusive.
Here’s the first cut of possible reasons why someone might post anonymously:
- I’m concerned that putting my real name to my ideas will cause me trouble at my work.
- I’m concerned that putting my real name to my ideas will cause me trouble at home or with my family.
- I’m concerned that putting my real name to my ideas will cause me trouble with my friends and acquaintances.
- I’m concerned that putting my real name to my ideas will cause me trouble at my school or university.
- I’m posting from a country which discourages freedom of speech.
- I’m concerned that someone will take violent exception to my views about climate and threaten me or my family.
- I feel more comfortable posting anonymously, but I’m not sure why.
- I’m concerned about putting any personal information about myself on the web for any reason.
- I find it easier to express negative views when I post anonymously.
- I’m posting from work on company time, or the equivalent (e.g. posting when I’m supposed to be studying).
- I don’t want people to be able to research my previous statements.
Now, my questions about all of this are:
- What else would be another reason that someone might have, that should be listed on the poll?
- What other questions (age, sex, etc.) would it be useful to know?
- How about the wording of the questions? Is it neutral, is it biased?
- Order of the questions? Which ones first, which ones last?
Many thanks for your contributions, the relevant ones will be included in the poll.
w.
PS – Please be clear that I’m interested in possible reasons people might post anonymously on WUWT, not a justification or an argument for or against posting anonymously. This thread is to design the poll, not to debate anonymity.
[UPDATE] Added from the comments, with my thanks. Note that in the poll people will be able to choose more than one response.
- I feel able to express more confident views if those statements aren’t personally attributable to me.
- I’m posting for relaxation – not “publication”.
- Using my real name is just asking for ad hominem attacks.
- I don’t know who might read the post and what they might do with it.
- I don’t wish to disclose my formal qualifications, or lack of them, or that I am in a different field.
- I can say things that I would be embarrassed to say in person.
- I’m lazy.
- I work with people who believe Albert Gore is a scientist.
- I work with clients/customers or in a market where skeptical views are not welcome.
- Metaphorically speaking, I have relatives in the old country …
- To be honest, I also say some pretty stupid things, occasionally, especially when imbibing the suds.
- I am concerned about identity theft.
- It’s a chance to let out my repressed wild and crazy inner personalities.
- Stalking is always a concern to a female.
- I have someone constantly Googling my name.
- It’s traditional since the beginning of the web to have a handle.
- It allows me to “compartmentalize” my opinions on very different subjects.
- I enjoy “trolling”, stirring things up.
- I have worked for oil companies, mining companies or agribusiness and it would likely be held against me.
- I use a moniker because it describes what I am and how I see the world in 3 words.
- I post anonymously for the same reason I do not register a gun.
- Who wants to be responsible for my stupid ramblings when I am involved with Jack Daniels? Not me!
- I am under an implied contract to never make public pronouncement under my name that might in any way embarrass or disadvantage any segment of a multifaceted corporate endeavor / large university / international organization.
- Greenpeace said “We know who you are. We know where you live. We know where you work. And we be many, but you be few.”
- If I posted under my own name, it would be tantamount to expressing my political views to all and sundry and in my industry/job/school would convey a lack of professionalism.
- I am concerned that my age, gender, ethnicity, educational level, etc are factors that can affect the people who read a comment and many of them unfortunately then respond in a biased way.
- I have been attacked for my views.
- It is like putting on a superman suit, you can say anything, be anything and fly anywhere. And if any-one with kryptonite strikes you down, what does it matter, tomorrow you will be Clark Kent.
- To express things I wouldn’t have courage to express otherwise, the same reason many students are hesitant to put their hand up in class.
- I’m not even half as paranoid as I should be.
- I don’t wish for my thoughts and comments from years gone by to turn up whenever someone does a search on my name.
- I enjoy putting forward an identity that says more about me than my name.
- It’s good that no-one on the internet knows if you’re a frog.
- It would be easy to connect up my posts, email address and ultimately my credit cards. Spam and fraud would then follow.
- I don’t want to be associated with my job when posting on technical subjects.
- I am concerned about the UK defamation law.
- In my country you could be targeted by the consensus people.
- I have a common name and use a pseudonym so that I can search for my postings.
- I am concerned it may cost me business/lose me funding.
- I want readers to judge my comments on their content, not their provenance.
- I plan to run for president and want to be able to change my opinions as may be convenient.
- I am pleased to get some protection from the cloud of gnats hovering around the net.
- A future employer might have issues with some of the things I post.
- Didn’t Zorro and the Lone Ranger wear their masks because of things like this?
- I am the sole support of others.
- I’m not British / American, and for an English speaker my name is difficult to remember / sounds weird / carries a silly pun / leads to misunderstandings.
- I think it is fun to call myself by my handle.
- I don’t care.
- My name is the same as a wanted criminal / bad person.
- I don’t want current comments being dredged up in a possible future political campaign.
- I want to maintain plausible deniability.
- Posting anonymously offers an opportunity for crowd-sourced criticism before having my name attached to a bad idea.
- I I do a fair bit of sub-contract work for companies that have bought into the green dream, so I’m invoking my very own version of the … uh … precautionary principle 🙂
- A rabid green has haunted me in other forums.
- I was stalked relentlessly by some creep who decided that it was fun.
- Would you seriously consider using your real name after a reasonable period of retirement.
- Would you prefer to be able to post under your own name?
- Career
- Age
- Sex
- Location
It has also been correctly noted that I am describing posting pseudonymously, not anonymously.
It strikes me that I haven’t looked at the other side of the equation, why people post under their own name … ah, well, one thing at a time. My own reasons for posting under my own name, in no particular order, would be:
- I want to be able to claim ownership of my ideas.
- I refuse to be intimidated by the dangers of the world.
- I am much better mannered when I have to take responsibility for my words.
- My claims tend to extravagance when I post anonymously.
- I grew up a cowboy, and criticizing someone from behind a mask of anonymity feels like shooting someone from ambush … and a cowboy can’t do that, it’s in the contract, ask Tom Mix.
- I am retired, and don’t care if people read what I post.
- I prefer to say what I think and feel anyway without hiding under a cloak.
- I don’t post anonymously because I have a martyr complex.
- I think it is cowardice to post anonymously.
- Because I don’t follow the herd.
- I say what I mean and am terribly honest at it.
- I believe it is simply good manners to identify yourself when talking to people.
- I have no concern about people reading my opinions a decade from now.
- I can’t lie with a straight face.
- I have to stand for what I believe as who I am, otherwise what I say is all posturing.
- I started posting under my real name after making an ass of myself anonymously in a blog comment section.
- Using my name forces me to keep my posts measured and decent.
- I feel uneasy posting anonymously.
- It’s a matter of clarity and honesty.
- If such things as climate change are important we should pony up and admit where we stand.
- I’m confident enough in who I am to not be concerned about what others think of my opinions.
- Since my work is not publicly funded or grant funded, I’m at liberty to say what I wish without concern of losing my job.
- A person of worth will stand up in their own name for what is right and against what is wrong.
- If they want to google my name, they should do it if they don’t have better things to do.
- I have never not posted with my own and real name. Why would I do otherwise?
- I feel free to change my opinion should I have reason to and will defend or dismiss my former opinions accordingly.
- It would be cowardly for me to hide behind an alias.
- A screen name feels like hiding behind a false front.
- I think that in the long view we as a society get along much better when we know each others names.
- If I have too little courage of my own convictions to sign my name to my opinions, why should anyone pay attention?
- I don’t fear professional retribution as most of my peers hold similar views to mine or are just plain disengaged from the topic of global warming.
- It’s a statement that I will not be intimidated.
- I am totally uninterested about what other people think of me.
- I’ve had my own name a long time and have grown attached to it.
- I consider my self responsible for my own opinions.
- If I write something, I’ll stand for it, or I would not write it.
- I dislike anonymity on principle
That’s it to date, I’ll add more as they come up. I must say that I find the variety of reasons much wider and deeper than I had expected. Ain’t life grand?
Indeed, I rather like this process of crowdsourcing the poll questions. It strikes me that this is a kind of appreciative inquiry that could be of use in other contexts where there is a wide variety of opinions.
w.
(OT) I know it’s late in the day, but let’s make an effort to:
(a) Stop using ‘google’ as a verb. Google (which as a trade name should be capitalized) is not the only search engine. ‘Search’ is a perfectly good, neutral equivalent. Jeff’s usage above is just an example of many in this thread.
(b) Stop using Google at all. There are other search engines. I use Yahoo these days, ever since the Google corporation, through its foundation, started hiring people to evangelize the Cult of Global Warming:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/03/18/friday-funny-google-to-take-on-climate-skeptics/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/03/19/an-open-letter-to-google/
I’m not a huge fan of boycotts, but I’ve decided not to support Google by using its services, and I would encourage others to do the same.
/Mr Lynn
I post only vary rarely and mostly lurk. I post a pseudonym because I wish to keep my views and general discussion on climate (and science more generally) distinct from my professional life which has an element of being public.
I sign publicly in forums related to my profession, but feel it wise to keep distinct the fascination I have the AGW debate (or shouting match as it generally seems to be) from my profession. It is not to say I am ashamed of those views, which have become pretty skeptical of CAGW, and I often discuss them in my professional forums – just that I don’t wish to be “known” for any views on the subject as commentator devoted to the subject. I want my name to be associated only with views regarding my line of work.
However, if pressed I would give my name.
I am dead against any form ad hominem type of discussion and although my own views are currently firmly skeptical, my opinion of this site is that while it is extremely interesting and informative it is far too unbalanced and dogmatic with regards to the opposing view point.
For this reason I much prefer Judith Curry’s site where warmist views are discussed and defended, and argued rationally against (although at times it can get pretty silly there too). I honestly want to know what is going on rather than take a side in a bitch fight.
but Mr Lynn, Yahoo is in the cult of round earthers how can we possibly support them ?
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org
How about this one: My identity does not validate or invalidate the contents of my post. Too often credentials are used instead of a sound argument.
Or this one: Having an anonymous username makes personal attacks and stereotyping baseless and thus merely a reflection of the attackers inherent bias.
Agnostic says:
“…my opinion of this site is that while it is extremely interesting and informative it is far too unbalanced and dogmatic with regards to the opposing view point.”
I think you misunderstand scientific skepticism. Nothing is blindly accepted at face value; conclusions must survive all attacks. The only opposing views that are accepted are those that remain standing after all attempts to falsify them have failed. That is not “unbalanced and dogmatic,” that is the scientific method in action.
Those who want us to accept their catastrophic AGW conjecture don’t like being refuted, but that’s how the scientific method works: if a hypothesis doesn’t agree with experiment, or with observation, it’s wrong.
A very simple reason is: I have no strength of conviction or lack intestinal foritude.
Smokey: no, throwing out a number of random points that have long ago been debunked is not how science is done but passes for “real science” here. If you wanted to actually find the truth of the matter you would follow a point through and not switch to a random new point when coming close to an answer you don’t want.
AGW theory is quite simple :-
A) CO2 has a warming effect ( demonstrable in the lab)
B) CO2 levels are increasing
C) The majority of this increase is coming from human activity
How instead of following these points through to their conclusion, what passes for “scientific” argument here is something like “oh, yeah these stolen emails have the word trick so therefore it’s all a global hoax by the hippies”
BTW: Is the “C” being added now because you’ve given up denying AGW ? What’s the definition of catastrophic ? What’s wrong guys I thought we were actually cooling because it really was all those misplaced weather stations or something, now we are warming and it is caused by humans but it’s not that bad ?
http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/weather_stations/
Flat Earther says:
“AGW theory is quite simple :-
A) CO2 has a warming effect ( demonstrable in the lab)
B) CO2 levels are increasing
C) The majority of this increase is coming from human activity”
None of that stands up to even mild scrutiny [and for the record, AGW is not a theory, it is a hypothesis]. Yes, CO2 has a warming effect. But the temperature rise attributable to human emissions is small; so small that it isn’t even measurable. That is where the debate arises: the climate sensitivity to CO2 is in dispute, from the preposterously exaggerated IPCC claims, to the more supportable ≤1°C per doubling. If the sensitivity to CO2 was higher than that, temperatures would closely track rises in CO2. They don’t.
Yes, CO2 levels are increasing, but the null hypothesis supports natural variability as the primary cause of the current very mild 0.7°C warming over the past ≈150 years.
The basis of the entire catastrophic AGW claim is that the rise in CO2 will cause runaway global warming. There is no indication that that is happening, and there is no evidence of any global damage from the rise in CO2. Prof. Feynman points out that when a hypothesis doesn’t agree with observation, it is wrong. The CO2=CAGW hypothesis is wrong, it is as simple as that.
Willis Eschenbach says:
April 25, 2011 at 1:54 am
Septic Matthew says:
April 24, 2011 at 7:27 pm
I like to follow the example of The Federalist. The choice to reveal or conceal your name is a civil right, requiring no justification one way or the other.
Justification? Who asked you to justify anything? I asked people the reasons that they post either anonymously or under their own name.
If you don’t want to give your reason, that’s fine — in that case the polite thing to do is to go play someplace else, rather than go all “civil rights” on whether your actions “require justification”. OK, you’ve asserted your inalienable right to not participate here … now follow up on that, and go participate elsewhere.
w.
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I think you are misconstruing Matthew’s point, Willis. It is like the old “if you have nothing to hide, why shouldn’t (insert questioner’s identity) be able to know whatever they want about you?” furphy. The presumption of the question is that people need to explain their reasons for wanting privacy.
I agree with Matthew, and that is why your suggested ‘reason’ along the lines of never putting personal information about myself on the internet partially explains why I don’t do it. But at the highest level, the rationale is that the right to privacy does not have to be explained or justified.
The ‘reasons’ in your list are lower order concerns which apply differently to different people. Some of them apply to me. But in the end, if I was a multi-billionare living in a series of security compounds in desirable locations and using only private jets, I still wouldn’t put my personal information on the internet for all to see forever.
WUWT, and a few other trusted sites, have my email address which is real. I happily accept that, and it can be used to check my bona fides. I always use the same pseudonym.
Perhaps “I believe in the right to privacy” should be added to your list.
There are a couple of reasons I prefer not to completely identify myself in a blog comment. 1) Naturally on the introverted side. Don’t like the personal attention for either credit or blame. 2) Having been personally harassed (phone calls, sugar in the gas tank, nails in the driveway), I’d rather avoid dealing with more crazies. Foaming-at-the-mouth comments responding to mine can be laughed off, but nothing more than that.
Willis, FWIW, pre-test your poll in a focus group to iron out the wording, sequencing, terminology, and other bugs. You’ll really only have one chance at it, so do it right.
Handles save energy, but they do produce more CO2 on occassion too.
I could say my daddy was a truck driver and I always wanted my own “handle”, but that would only be half true.
Smokey: simple question (getting late here I’ll need to take this up tomorrow) is a 3c increase for a doubling of CO2 considered “catastrophic” ?
Specific numbers if you like, for the sake of the argument CO2 was 280ppm pre-industrial a doubling by 2050 would be 560ppm CO2 and we’re currently approaching 400ppm.
The word “catastrophic” seems to leave so much wiggle room, a bit like the tobacco industry claiming that smoking was good for the economy as it got people off the pension quicker
I always sign my name. I believe that it is cowardly not to. I am a devout Catholic and a AGW sceptic.
I post on respectable blogs such as WUWT and respectable blogs that pertain to the sanctity of human life, especially unborn children.
These issues are both highly charged and require open and honest discussion. Those people who are toxic, sarcastic or rude and do not sign their names are to be ignored.
I use one ID for snark and for comments that may be sane and sensible save for the kool-ade drinkers in my community, and another, easily linked locally to my real persona, for presumably constructive comments that won’t result in arson and tire-slashing. While snark is generally frowned upon, it sometimes works to constructively steer a thread back toward constructive interchange. I can’t think of any instances where that has worked, of course, but venting can be therapeutic
Flat Eather says:
April 25, 2011 at 5:51 am
“AGW theory is quite simple :-
A) CO2 has a warming effect ( demonstrable in the lab)
B) CO2 levels are increasing
C) The majority of this increase is coming from human activity ”
You conveniently forgot that “AGW theory” depends on positive water vapor feedback which has still not been observed. Without that, “AGW theory” is dead in the water as no “tipping point” can be reached.
Who cares, ideas matter more than name. Unless you’re into letters, then flashing your name is important.
Flat Eather says:
April 25, 2011 at 6:03 am
“What’s wrong guys I thought we were actually cooling”
You could be right with that:
http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.gif
I explained that was not aimed at you, but the question. I apologize that the clarity was required, being missing in my original post. You’re one of my favorite authors on this site and I have no beef with you. I’ve explained my reasons and now this is tiresome.
You wrote a short while back of your early life of drug abuse and alcohol abuse, and that you were an unreliable employee. Congrats on your turn-around. You have nothing to hide – many of us prefer to make those disclosures difficult to find, impossible to exploit, impossible to misunderstand. People should please try to understand and accept (is that better than “get over it”?).
Thank you for allowing all points of view.
An incredible ammount of options have already been offered, yet I couldn’t see one that affected me in the past.
Maybe 10 years ago, I wrote a letter to a newspaper. I had done that before a dozen times, and most of them had been published. They also published this one, but this time, because of space requirements I guess, several sentences in the letter had been shortened. As a result, the meaning of it changed quite a lot, and made me look like a complete ignorant. Just one day later, another reader had answered to what the newspaper had decided to put in my lips, and strongly critizised that view, as it would be expected. But I never got any corrections published, although I tried three times.
This episode was bad, but would still be just one small incident without importance… if only the Internet didn’t exist. The thing is that, years later, if you googled my name, you could still find that letter to the newspaper where I was supposedly writting something that I never wrote. And you would find among the top 5 results shown by Google.
Could something like that happen again here? Well, nobody is going to alter the meaning of what I write, the words, certainly. Moderation is good and there are no space limitations. But what if I fail to express my views properly? What if I am misunderstood? I can easily correct any misunderstandings with another post, but how can I control who will read what? How can I control how will Google show any of my statements? Google certainly doesn’t know what is my current opinion on anything. What if I change my opinion later on? Can I make google show what I want to be seen about me, or in the appropiate order? No I can’t. And because I can’t, I prefer to use a pseudonim. I am protecting myself from the people who want to know about me through a quick google search instead of by asking.
So this is it. If someone reads Nylo and feels the need to know who Nylo is, I have no objection to tell it, but I will do so privately, by email or any other way. I will not put my name publicly because at the very moment I do that, I lose control over it.
Good question Willis.
In my case, I almost always post anonymously on internet, on this blog, other AGW-related blogs, or any blogs or non-professional places. Only for commercial transaction or professional e-mails do I use my real name, because there is no choice doing otherwise.
The reason why is that it is extremely quick and easy to post a message on internet, so easy that it get the conversation flowing like a 50% mix of life meeting and 50 % letter exchanges, and this usually makes information exchange lively and interesting.
But, contrary to a life meeting, where your conversation is limited in time (right now, or subject to the very imperfect memory of your interlocutor) and space (only people present in the room, at hearing distance), what you say on internet is googlable anywhere and forever.
Right now, very few of my post would cause me trouble ( those AGW-related would cause me none), none of them would cause me real trouble.
But if I change places, change occupation, or in the near of far future? Who knows?
So by default I always post anonymously, better safe than sorry, especially given the current societal evolution: It seems that people tends to favor politically correct and security above privacy and individual freedom more and more, which strengthen the case for anonymity more and more too.
I have two reasons for using a pseudonym:
1) I work for a trade association and feel it would be irresponsible to expose its members to retaliation by either radical moonbat organizations or politicians pandering to them.
2) I reside in one of America’s most notorious centers of Left-wing Liberalism, have elderly parents living in my home, and feel it would be irresponsible to expose them to the risk of harassment by Leftist barbarians.
I actually resent having to conceal my identity and will happily get in the Left’s faces using my own name, if the day ever comes when I am responsible for the interests of no one but myself.
Lots of comments, so perhaps I have missed a similar observation: my name is NOT unusual. I occasionally post, in retrospect, a goofy idea, or one that I later realize lacks logic or has an otherwise major flaw. I would hate for another person with the same moniker as I to suffer ridicule because of my shortcomings.
Other than that, I throw in with those who want to see ideas discussed based on their merits, not originators. The most astute observations are sometimes made by those far enough away from the forest as to see it for what it is. Group-think in our culture has risen to the point where I think “the one-eyed man” would not be declared king in the land of the blind, but would be locked up for insanity.
I have an MS in physics and astronomy, which I will not refer to again; I do know how to research and how science should be presented. CAGW, IMHO, is clearly a pile of political BS. Moreover, I hope for the sake of Man (I’ll be long gone) that if the climate cycles change from the way they have behaved for the last ten thousand years, the earth becomes warmer, not colder. The shorthand version of my take on climate is, “Cold bad, warm good, Gore idiot.”
James Thomas Carr, aka, jtom
I’m probably biased, but it seems to me the arguments in favor of privacy and anonymity are persuasive. Anyone is free to use their real name, but the rest of us will probably never know if the name is even legitimate. It could be as fake as Elmer Fudd. For the rest of us, the majority I believe, it is the content of the comments that matter, not the commenter. Where I would draw the line is at using multiple screen names, which I think is dishonest. It is akin to stuffing the ballot box.
@Flat Earther: I’m sorry I responded, this isn’t the right forum. If you want to discuss the evidence for or against AGW, or discuss the definition of “catastrophic,” the “It’s probably nothing” thread is more appropriate. I’ll wander over there.