This is just….just…ah heck I can’t even begin to describe it. The stupid, it burns.
Here’s the odoriferous essence of this publicity stunt story:
“In addition to the anticipated warming of lakes and rivers, we may also see an increase in the occurrence of extreme weather events such as floods, droughts and heatwaves.
“All of these could have an impact on much of the native wildlife in England, especially aquatic species such as the rare and specialised vendace, so we are taking action now to conserve the existing populations.”
So let’s move the animals into the ClimateArk for the “anticipated warming of lakes and rivers”. Eeegads, let’s not wait for the actual data to see if there’s a real temperature problem or not, act now!
The commenters on her blog are having none of it, for example:
ravenscar
Today 09:17 AM
“The endangered vendace, that has been in Britain since the Ice Age, is in danger of dying out as lakes and rivers warm up because of man made global warming.”
Are we to infer man has been warming up the planet since the last ice age?
How powerful must they have been, our ancestors.
This plucky little fish survived the Roman Warming, the MWP, which were warmer – so now, when it is cooler but the fault lies with Mankind? Thus, Global warming is the culprit.
That’s pretty poor logic even from you Ms. Gray.
I think the solution if you’ll excuse the pun can be found in the [lack of] water quality.
And this one….
I’ve understood that the threat to the vendace and other white fish wasn’t so much that the lakes are getting warmer as from eutrophication caused by run-off from fields and the sewage output of towns like Keswick.
They were saying this in the 1980s. Obviously the fertilisation problem must have been solved just in time for global warming. (Or maybe not).
This was the story the Telegraph was running about its demise in 2008;
“No trace of the vendace, a small herring-like fish, has been found at Bassenthwaite in the Lake District despite an intensive search.
The disappearance leaves Derwent Water as the last surviving habitat of the vendace in the England.
Competition from invasive fish species and poor water quality are being blamed for the demise of the rare freshwater fish.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ear…
It’s notable that they were still in Derwentwater at the time (largely upstream of Keswick), but had gone extinct in Bassenthwaite Lake ( immediately downstream of Keswick).
Not a mention of any of this in Louise’s cut and paste.
Ms. Gray has been pwned by the purveyors of this story. Read it and weep here.
Here’s the “experts” documenting it all on video:
So here’s the question. After introducing these fish into a new lake, what if they don’t survive? Blame global warming?
h/t to WUWT reader Robert Doyle
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So if I read this right they are being moved because of the better water quality and as a slight bonus that being higher and so colder if there is some climate change, man made or not, it will not matter. Sounds sensible. But then the climate change part got blown out of proportion.
I hope those llamas don’t crap in the lake! Noooooo.
By the way, a lovely part of the world there. Lucky fish.
Andy
First, this:
oh no, not the clown fish…it’s the end
448 DAYS UNTIL LABOR’S CLOWN FISH NAVIGATION TAX – Tim Blair
blogs.news.com.au
Now the vendace fish whatever, then what’s next?…It’s worse than we thought…
Ok, just to be clear…these guys are NOT introducing these fish into a remote Andean lake? I’m still a bit confused by the Llama angle.
Why not get Professor Cory Bradshaw of the University of Adelaide to say it might not be worth saving the rare fish in England (or anywhere else), and just let them die.
Here in New Zealand we are very proud of the work that’s been done to save NZ’s endangered birds such as the Kakapo. Professor Bradshaw who knows nothing about NZ birds said “It might not be worth trying to save the kakapo”.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/4879292/Let-wonderfully-weird-kakapo-die-scientist
Using a mathematical formula, Professor Bradshaw and colleagues from Adelaide and James Cook University, in northern Queensland, created a new index called Safe (Species’ Ability to Forestall Extinction), which ranks the probability of animals becoming extinct based on population.
Sure!
Ok, the way it started was they take a cross of an American and a Chinese chestnut. They inoculate them with blight and select the blight resistant trees.
Next, they take these and back-cross them with an American chestnut, plant the nuts, inoculate the seedlings with blight, select the survivors, and back-cross again with American chestnut.
With each successive generation, it becomes more American chestnut and less Chinese chestnut. The only feature they are selecting is blight resistance.
They are now to the point where they have trees that are 100% indistinguishable from American chestnut trees but carry the blight resistance gene from the Chinese chestnut.
http://www.acf.org/
You REALLY need to dig around on that site. It is manned by volunteers who aren’t the most web-savvy folks in the world. But I 100% support their mission.
Many years ago we Brits mistakenly thought we could control the world, now our government [deliberate lower case] thinks it can control Mother Nature.
The sucking sound we rhetorically heard earlier was this woman’s brains leaving planet Gaia.
The excellent Autonomous Mind blog takes the Beeb & the Grauniad to task on their pot-stirring on the same story here:-
http://autonomousmind.wordpress.com/2011/04/12/another-fishy-climate-change-story-lovingly-told-by-bbcguardian/
But I think Kev-in-UK is being a little unfair.
@Kev-in-Uk says: April 12, 2011 at 5:13 pm
“Unfortunately, I have to deal with these Environment Agency people – and the majority and automaton ‘rule’ checkers.”
C’mon, Kev! They aren’t all “automaton ‘rule’ checkers”! Why, a lot of them that I have to deal with, are fully paid up amateur bunny-huggers as well!
Aren’t those people required to register with the authorities?
Look. the llamas are OK because, under UN Human Rights legislation and Green Manifestos, these llamas qualify as refugees. They already show themselves as valuable new citizens carrying poor little ffish to new water holes where all the critters will be expected to live in multicultural harmony.
I am no fan of Ms Gray and although she could have questioned the ridiculousness of this, the real culprit was the Environment Agency.
The Fisheries Officer when Interviewed on BBC, said they had considered using mountain ponies to carry the fish, but a local charity provided the Llamas. It was surreal as the interiewer accepted the move in all seriousness.
Shame they were’nt Flying Fish.
My flat might get too hot in the summers due to the anticipated global warming. The extra anticipated few tenths of a degree over the next hundred years are a big worry for us. We do not know how we will cope yet.
I know its not the main point, but I have never heard of Sprinkler Tarn. I do know of a Sprinkling Tarn (a favourite spot of mine on the way up Scafell Pike). I suspect a mistake in the EA release and like all good churnalists, it’s now reported by all who follow…
Since llamas and Pythons have been covered, here is fish and Pythons:
.. and we all know what happened when man introduced rabbits to Australia!
It’s not llama land, it’s la-la land.
Auntie Beeb has a slightly older report of vendace being moved to Sprinkling Tarn (they got the name right) from Derwentwater. A somewhat more conventional mode of transport was used.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/4486024.stm
It is of interest to note the difference in the quoted number of vendace available in Derwentwater in the two reports.
These people are insane. Its obvious that reason has been long abandoned.
I’ve moved my goldfish upstairs.
more dead penguins
Another older report in the Daily Telegraph indicates that this llama assisted “rescue” was not at all necessary.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/3346740/Ancient-vendace-fish-saved-from-edge-of-extinction.html
Jimbo says:
April 12, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Louise Gray has gone off the reservation.
I think you’re on to a new phrase here, Jimbo! They’ve all “left the reservation”! I like it.
AND at Theo Goodwin, you remind of a “Not the 9 O’Clock News” sketch years ago,(for you Virginian Colonials, it was a comedy sketch show on BBC 2 at the same time as the BBC 1 national news was broadcast, hence the title!) in which they spoofed Question Time (political talk show), & the Robin Day character announced a 4 min warning of a Soviet nuclear strike launch, the Lord Carrington character started thre debate painfully slowly to the tune of “Leaving the holocaust aside for one moment……..”, then the female socialist on the panel had to make the point that “what people don’t realise, right, is that 3 million people right, are going to die, right……………………….unemployed!” thus encapsulating the entire socialist ideal! They don’t really care that people will die, as long they die fairly, all have jobs, or are on the right benefits, that’s ok then!
Yes I saw this rubbish which had me screaming at the TV screen.
How on earth did these fish survive the Medieval Warm and Roman warm periods and the previous warm periods?
Complete madness of these people astounds.
Story by Louise
GreenGray, arch warmist advocate incapable of independent critical thought . So that’ll be more garbage in, garbage out then. Just like everything else she’s written.A commenter at the Telegraph points out:
And may I add the Roman Warm Period to the list.