I am sure that you all remember this article in the San Francisco Chronicle in October of 2006.
(10-27-2006) 04:00 PDT Norden, Nevada County — For the ski industry, both in California and rest of the nation, there is no greater truth than global warming, with its threat of a shrinking snowpack and the point that Yogi Berra once made so succinctly: “The future ain’t what it used to be.”
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If nothing is done to curb emissions, greenhouse gas emissions could raise Sierra temperatures another 5 or 6 degrees by the end of the 21st century, according to some projections. The snowpack could be reduced by 89 percent.
It all came rushing back to be when I read this on the Alpine Meadows web site:
Current Snow Conditions: Alpine is Closed – Too much snow to safely enjoy. (Extreme Avalanche Danger and High Winds)
Right now it looks like the Alpine Meadows could use some global warming to stay in business.
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UPDATE: It looks like the winds have subsided enough, as of 6:37AM with an update Monday morning they have removed the warning, after all, they don’t want all the heavy snow to scare customers away. Here’s the current snow depths:
And here is the current welcome message:
Source: http://www.skialpine.com/mountain/snow-report/
from: Global Warming and Alpine Closed Too Much Snow give Russ a shout out. – Anthony
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You are not using the proper term!!! It is Climate Change People, sheesh… That way it can mean whatever you want whenever you want it to… more snow ( Climate Change ) less snow ( Climate Change )…
Seriously how ignorant are you!!!
I’m not sure if I am just misinterpreting the chart Craig Moore and Bob Maginnis reference or what. The title on the image states “Mountain Snowpack as of March 1, 2011”. However, the data actually seems to be some kind of 29 year aggregation. The title of the color range is “Percent 1971 to 2000 Period”. Does this mean percent of the 29 year maximums versus the current values or the 29 year averages versus the current values or are the colors only for the 29 years of data from 11 years ago?
Bob Maginnis says:
March 21, 2011 at 8:59 am
The danger of AGW is that an early melt of snowpack will just cause floods rather than releasing water slowly over the summer irrigation season. If we have more warming, we will need to build more dams to store the irrigation water that is presently stored as snow.
So then, the more warming, the more snow, and the more snow/warming, the more rapid snowmelt and flooding. Whereas before, the warming was going to cause just the opposite – less snow, and droughts, not floods. Got it.
The goalpost moving by the Warmist ideologues is enough to make ones’ head spin.
308″ base on the Upper Mountain! That’s nearly 26 ft sitting on the ground – big even by Sierra standards.
Colorado has been great this winter – lots of powder days for us powder hounds!
Here’s the SNOTEL stats for the western US plus Alaska:
http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/sno_narr3_pl
Obviously, some states are doing great while others aren’t, but that’s typical of each year. Check out this site for a visual measure of the variability in snowpack from month to month, year to year.
http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/cgibin/westsnow.pl
Holy smoke, the Kyoto Protocol WORKED! And I was silly enough to doubt all those wise politicians, climate scientologists, and celebrities!
/sarc
In 2006 Oregon State University researchers predicted lighter future snows.
http://oregonstate.edu/dept/ncs/newsarch/2006/Mar06/snow.htm
They need not have worried. Central Oregon’s Mt. Bachelor has had 500″ of snowfall so far this season, while an average year is 387″ for the entire season.
http://www.mtbachelor.com/winter/mountain/snow_report
At Oregon State University a professor has been forced out by telling the truth that snowfall has not been in a long term decline, according to this:
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=11875
Here is the analysis of the winter 2011 snow coverage.
http://theinconvenientskeptic.com/2011/03/snow-coverage-update-winter-of-2011/
Jeff Carlson says:
March 21, 2011 at 7:34 am
“there is no greater idiocy than sciemce writers within the MSM”
Oh I dunno, I think they’re neck and neck with financial reporters in the MSM.
All the reservoirs in California are full or near full. Insufficient runoff margins in lake levels. Beginning to dump now, what with the unexpected series of rain/snow storms. No, that is not unusual(extended rainy season), it’s the way the weather used to be before the warming after the 70’s. Rain all the way into May some years. The problem now is that the operators of the reservoirs are in the dark as to the past history. How’d that happen?
OMG! Stormy conditions today at a US ski resort – that clearly PROVES humans have no impact on climate whatsoever …….. !!!!!
Burlington, Vermont snowfall total for the season 125.7 in (normal is about 80). And the season isn’t over. The winter wasn’t especially cold. At the moment it is the third snowiest on record behind 1886-7=132 in and 1970-1=145.4 in. The weather? It’s snowing.
Andy Mayhew says:
March 21, 2011 at 12:38 pm
And so it goes that those that bandy sarcasm about with little or no consideration for the facts or the context will be laughed at and ridiculed at length. It saves many of us from having to buy booze, books on failed political campaigns, and old reruns of Laurel and Hardy (or the Three Stooges–take your pick).
Mammoth Mountain is at about 150% of normal for the season already and more snow in the forecast. Even San Diego is about 130% of normal for the season – and that’s really unusual for a La Niña year.
But then this hasn’t been a typical La Niña winter for the US.
I read the 2006 SF Chronicle article. The Ski Industry seems to be investing heavily in alternative energy. One could argue that based on the ‘consensus’ of the early 2000’s, this was a prudent business decision. Private industry tends not to hang onto failed ideas like governments do. Watch for reluctance from the Ski Industry next time their contracts to purchase ‘green energy’, at a premium, renews.
Patrick Davis says:
March 21, 2011 at 8:01 am
The last few Skii seasons in Aus have started “early”, I wonder what winter 2011 will bring. At a guess, no science involved at all a la Gore, winter this year will be colder, lots of snow where people want it early too.
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They may have started early with some late April/early May dumps Patrick, but they went nowhere fairly quickly.
Look here : http://users.tpg.com.au/users/mpaine/snow.html
Thank God for man made snow.
I skied on that 308″ at Alpine Meadows today. Awesome. This has been the best ski season ever in California. Bring me more of that global warming.
When do you think Gov. Brown will declare an end to the drought?
All I know is we just are finishing off a good old fashioned cold winter with a warm spell in January so that the deep snow is capped with a nice crust. Predator party and Ungulate die off. I don’t think there is a yearling left around my place and they are working their way up in the size of the catch.
It appears we are gradually winning the propaganda war, but we cant underestimate these vile propagandists, they are waiting for any opportunity to re-assert their false message. Its almost surreal the way they persist no matter how much contrary evidence is presented. They must be seething with intense hatred to persist this way.
Mt. Washington (Vancouver Island) on track for record snow season
http://www.snowseekers.ca/britishcolumbia/mtwashington/ontrackforrecordsnowfall
Canadian Pacific says weather to hit earnings
“The company said “multiple severe weather events” disrupted train operations across its network in Canada and the northern United States, including avalanches on its mainline tracks in British Columbia.”
http://m.sympatico.ca/news_detail.php;jsessionid=gF-nJslODVHeOM-53YzfOQ**?type=business&lang=en-CA&rssItemId=TRE72K7DQ
I doubt that my B.C. minister of forestry will be telling the B.C. public that the snow pack is such and such percent below “normal” this year. On average he tells us this every other year.
The louder the fact speak, the louder the Warmists shriek. Funny how that works…
Mods: “facts speak” not “fact”.
Here is a good website dealing with California’s water situation.
“California Reservoir Watch”
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=116296859249755018234.000479b4b505b3da2340b&ll=38.848264,-121.047363&spn=3.422325,5.361328&z=7&source=embed
There will be epic floods during this spring in multiple places in the NH. Pack on top of saturated ground.
“When the levee breaks … “