Non-quote of the week

Usually I have “Quote of the week, but in this case, the silence says far more than any words the Goreacle might utter.

At least somebody outside of the blogosphere noticed.

From masslive.com where they say:

“Snows of Kilimanjaro defy global warming predictions”

Representatives for Al Gore declined to comment on this article.

Could Al Gore look any dumber over this?

Read the full article here, give the journalist some props.

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See also this story Kilimanjaro regaining its snow cap where commenter SonicFrog says:

Anthony… Here is a better article to link to on the subject. And isn’t this a most damning quote?

“Unfortunately, we made the prediction. I wish we hadn’t,” says Douglas R. Hardy, a UMass geoscientist who was among 11 co-authors of the paper in the journal Science that sparked the pessimistic Kilimanjaro forecast. “None of us had much history working on that mountain, and we didn’t understand a lot of the complicated processes on the peak like we do now.”

WHAT?????

“None of us had much history working on that mountain, and we didn’t understand a lot of the complicated processes on the peak like we do now.”

So WHAT THE HELL were you doing publishing and supporting this AS IF IT WAS CERTAIN?????

I wonder if anyone will demand a retraction from Thompson and Hardy?

Yes, I wonder.

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BarryW
March 21, 2011 12:16 pm

Robertvdl says:
March 21, 2011 at 11:52 am
“Could Al Gore look any dumber over this?”
He knew it was nonsense. You think he is stupid !

Never underestimate Gore’s stupidity. Re: “The earth’s core is a million degrees”.

Philip Peake (aka PJP)
March 21, 2011 12:18 pm

The problem for these people is that things didn’t move as fast as they anticipated/hoped.
They thought there wold be sweeping international agreements within a year or so, and that shortly after that most of the world’s population would be living living in caves, only getting information relayed to them from on high by officially sanctioned messengers, so their prognostications would never be put to the test, and if anyone did notice, they could claim it was recovery due to their enlightened policies.
In a less civilized (but more just) world, these people would be burned at the stake.

FerdinandAkin
March 21, 2011 12:19 pm

/SARC ON
Global Climate Disruption has disrupted our ability to predict future disruption of the climate.
In other news, the well documented warming in the Arctic, caused by the atmospheric increase in the powerful greenhouse gas CO2, is melting the ice over the Arctic Ocean. This reduction in the weight of the ice is causing geologic rebound resulting in seismic events like the one off the coast of Japan.
The Church of CAGW is pleased to inform you that you can now buy your way out the sins of CO2 through our non-profit, globally green, Carbon Credit Corporation. Just send money, all will be forgiven.
/SARC OFF

Jeremy
March 21, 2011 12:21 pm

What is a “Geoscientist” ??
Sounds made up. Is that like one of those custom-majors that some universities let you make where you pick your own coursework and slap a name on your degree?

Harold Pierce Jr
March 21, 2011 12:24 pm

IIRC I saw a short clip on the TV about a lady whose goal was to plant a billion trees around the base of the mountain.

polistra
March 21, 2011 12:26 pm

“None of us had much history working on that mountain, and we didn’t understand a lot of the complicated processes on the peak like we do now.”
“The glaciers are still shrinking, and in the next decades they will almost certainly disappear…”
Real scientists should be able to apply a sort of mathematical induction here.
If P is true of X, and P is true for X+1 no matter what X is, then P is true of the whole series.
By extension: If you’re wrong about the present value, and you have no way of knowing how to calculate a future value given the present situation, then you’re wrong about the whole idea.

D. King
March 21, 2011 12:27 pm

Then there’s this little nugget.

Jimbo
March 21, 2011 12:30 pm

They must let go of the heat on Kilimanjaro.

“The concept considers the peculiarities of the mountain and implies that climatological processes other than air temperature control the ice recession in a direct manner. A drastic drop in atmospheric moisture at the end of the 19th century and the ensuing drier climatic conditions are likely forcing glacier retreat on Kilimanjaro.”
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/joc.1008/abstract

It is currenty warmcold on the mountain at at 5895 m altitude with a forecast of hotsnow to fall occasionally.
http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Kilimanjaro/6day/top

Allan M
March 21, 2011 12:33 pm

I wonder if anyone will demand a retraction from Thompson and Hardy?
Are you sure this isn’t Laurel and Hardy?

Tom in South Jersey
March 21, 2011 12:38 pm

Gee, I would imagine that the processes involved in Global Climate Change are a bit more “complicated” than the snow cap of one mountain, but that is just me.

Robuk
March 21, 2011 12:38 pm

They say,
None of us had much history working on that mountain, and we didn’t understand a lot of the complicated processes on the peak like we do now.”
But they still made that prediction, they still don`t understand the processes and are now predicting 4 to 5 decades, utter rubbish.

Tenuc
March 21, 2011 12:43 pm

Funnily enough, they said the same thing about snow in British winters – and since then we’ve had three very cold and snowy winters in a row. Both evets could be an example of Murphy’s Law, which seems to be a lot more solid than the conjecture of CAGW.
Climate science doesn’t really have a clue!

Merrick
March 21, 2011 12:48 pm

Yeah. Don’t misunderestimate Al!

GeneDoc
March 21, 2011 12:50 pm

Thank goodness it was peer reviewed “science”. Science and Nature just shouldn’t bother with climate articles, since they seem to often have serious errors.

Jimbo
March 21, 2011 12:52 pm

““The opinions of global warming doubters will change on a dime depending on whether it is cold winter or a hot summer. The only opinion that matters is nature’s. Nature has a way of humbling us all. It still remains to be seen just who that will be” in the end, Thompson said.”

Ahhhhhh! We have been told that as a result of global warming a few things might happen:
Plants move uphill
Plants move downhill
Northern Hemisphere winters warmer
Northern Hemisphere winters colder
Sahel to get less rain
Sahel to get more rain
and so on……………

R.S.Brown
March 21, 2011 12:55 pm

…and this afternoon, in Chile, President Obama included the
shrinking of Chilean glaciers as a partial reason for his going
green investment encouragement/incentives down there.
Nobody’s really studied to see if deforestation for wood products
has/has not any relationship to the status of Chile/Peru glaciers,
unlike the Kilimanjaro area of Japan.
I foresee a rush for research grants tilted to document how climate
change in Chile is responsible, unlike the deforestation documented
in Japan.

Dave Dardinger
March 21, 2011 1:00 pm

Jit,

Forest + Time
= Glacier
Forest + People
= Desert
….
Forest + Time
= Glacier

I think I hear a folk song in the making…
Where have all the glaciers gone, long time passing….

kwik
March 21, 2011 1:10 pm

This is just the beginning of lots and lots of excuses from the Gore-Parrots.

Dave G
March 21, 2011 1:16 pm

Damn it’s getting harder to climb out of this hole

March 21, 2011 1:21 pm

D King… i hate you for that! I watched it… Now I can’t un-watch it!!!

March 21, 2011 1:32 pm
rbateman
March 21, 2011 1:33 pm

“None of us had much history working on that mountain, and we didn’t understand a lot of the complicated processes on the peak like we do now.”
And now they want us to believe they are all better now.

D. King
March 21, 2011 1:38 pm

Sonicfrog says:
March 21, 2011 at 1:21 pm
“…Now I can’t un-watch it!!!”
Well, I hope you learned something!
Now we have to unlearn the kids.

Amino Acids in Meteorites
March 21, 2011 1:55 pm

This will be the first story on news tonight.
/sarc

Amino Acids in Meteorites
March 21, 2011 1:57 pm

Representatives for Al Gore declined to comment on this article.
hahahahahahaha………. hahahahahahahahaha
yes, that’s laughing
Al Gore is a professional speaker. He had nothing to say.