Kilimanjaro regaining its snow cap

Paging Dr. Lonnie Thompson and Al Gore. From ETN:

“Global warming” has nothing to do with this, it’s all about rainfall, deforestation, and evapotranspiration. I’m not ashamed to say: “We told you so”, several times:

More proof that Kilimanjaro’s problems are man-made; but not what some think it is

OSU’s Dr. Lonnie Thompson pushes gloom and doom, still thinks the snows of Kilimanjaro are melting due to global warming

Kilimanjaro’s snow – it’s about land use change, tree cutting

Oh no, not this Kilimanjaro ice rubbish again!

Another dumb climate stunt from NBC – climbing Kilimanjaro

Gore wrong on Kilimanjaro snow: Its the trees and “freezer burn”

Yet another inconvenient story ignored by the MSM.

h/t to ClimateDepot and Steve Goddard

 

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Sundance
March 21, 2011 7:57 am

More WAG based science bites the dust. Please inform your librarian that “An Inconvenient Truth” should now be moved to the fiction section of the library.

Gary Pearse
March 21, 2011 8:35 am

I climbed Kilimanjaro while waiting for an electrical inspection of a project in the 80s. It was a day after President Carter climbed it. It was very snowy and cold at the last camp and a beautiful experience starting in jungle, crossing tundra and into winter. Oh I got robbed at gunpoint losing a bit of cash, a twenty doolar traveler’s cheque and my passport which sent me off on another unplanned adventure by bus to Dar es Salam for travel docs.
I’d gotten a contract to develop a stone quarry in an ignimbrite bed (welded volcanic ash)and build a stone sawing plant near Moshi at the foot of Kilimanjaro. The ash bed is 8m thick and many km long and was to serve as a cheap substitute material for concrete blocks for housing construction. The specifications were for a labor intensive op that would would employ workers who were quarrying and shaping blocks by hand and burying the quarry with waste (about 80% of the stone). We bought an old wire saw from Vermont, a compressor, drills and tools and shipped them over in 20′ container. We had to build an electric generator out of two scrapped Soviet units and a quarry crane from hardwood telephone poles a 3 ton chain hoist and a counterweight made of a steel barrel filled with scrap iron and poured concrete. The boom was suspended from a tripod of poles with the short end over the quarry and the long end rigged with the chain hoist and counterweight for leverage. The short swing was enough to lift a 5-10t block from the quarry and onto a flat-deck truck usin nuscle power. The crame was a substitute for one that was supposed to be available and the generator for tthe grid power that was supposed to have been ready to hook up (the poles for it were lying on the ground along 10 miles of road, afew of which we borrowed for the crane).
Anyway, I’m happy the snow is coming back. Anyone checked out the status of world mtn glaciers recently?

klem
March 21, 2011 8:41 am

The thing is, the environmentalistss and watchdogs actually want Kilamenjaro to lose it’s glaciers, they don’t want the ice to return. Though they cry about the loss publically, it is to their benefit to have the ice vanish permanantly.

Richard Keen
March 21, 2011 8:44 am

Kilimanjaro’s ice cap seems to have stopped shrinking almost ten years ago. Check out this plot of published acreages of the “permanent” ice:
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/KILIMANJARO_KEEN.jpg
Joe D’Aleo and I have a write-up of this on ICECAP:
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/lonnie_thomson_again_snow_cap_disappearing_from_mount_kilimanjaro/

Sun Spot
March 21, 2011 9:10 am

Quick alert for the “Google Climate Spin Fellows”, I’m sure this perception of snow on Kilimanjaro can be corrected with the proper search filters.
~!/sarc

Holbrook
March 21, 2011 9:28 am

The snow returns to an African mountain and there is a very cold period from late November through to January in the Northern Hemisphere including the UK.
The cold weather stays in the USA and many parts of the Northern Hemisphere well into the New Year but Britain settles down to a more normal winter.
It is probably something to do with the Gulf Stream.
Sorry Al, I just thought I would point it out.

Kev-in-Uk
March 21, 2011 10:18 am

I haven’t time to read all the comments – but obviously the increasing snow cover is just down to the natural variability THIS time. As soon as it’s reducing it will be cow farts and CO2 all over again….
sad really……
(sarc off )

Tim Clark
March 21, 2011 10:27 am

oh-no-not-this-kilimanjaro-rubbish-again /sarc

March 21, 2011 10:52 am

Anthony… Here is a better article to link to on the subject. And isn’t this a most damning quote?
“Unfortunately, we made the prediction. I wish we hadn’t,” says Douglas R. Hardy, a UMass geoscientist who was among 11 co-authors of the paper in the journal Science that sparked the pessimistic Kilimanjaro forecast. “None of us had much history working on that mountain, and we didn’t understand a lot of the complicated processes on the peak like we do now.”
WHAT?????
“None of us had much history working on that mountain, and we didn’t understand a lot of the complicated processes on the peak like we do now.”
So WHAT THE HELL were you doing publishing and supporting this AS IF IT WAS CERTAIN?????
I wonder if anyone will demand a retraction from Thompson and Hardy?
This will be posted on my blog shortly.

Richard G
March 21, 2011 11:15 am

All this talk of goalposts and the curly fry bulb in my heat lit up: there are goalposts at both ends of the field. That is why they can be right no matter what happens.

rbateman
March 21, 2011 12:19 pm

I think we need to address Global Warming once and for all.
Computer :
“Yes”
What is your name?
“Global Warming Mark V”
Thank you, Computer.
“Feed me”
What do you require for fuel?
“Grants. Specifically stacks of fresh bills”

March 21, 2011 12:48 pm

“The fact that so many glaciers throughout the tropics and subtropics are showing similar responses suggests an underlying common cause,” Dr Lonnie Thompson said in a statement.
Thompson would like us to believe that the cause is global warming caused by a rise in CO2. But as we can see from this ICECAP image, that explanation fails.
The planet has been emerging from the Little Ice Age since around 1800. That and deforestation would certainly have more of an effect than a change in a harmless trace gas.

March 21, 2011 2:13 pm

rbateman says:
March 21, 2011 at 12:19 pm
“Feed me”
What do you require for fuel?
“Grants”.

comic on grants
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/9540/drbagshaw.jpg

John F. Hultquist
March 21, 2011 3:17 pm

Hello. Hello. Anyone out there?
There is a question hanging in the air.
Dermot O’Logical says:
March 21, 2011 at 1:19 am
Is the land use around the mountain changing back to what it used to be?

How many mpingo seedlings have been planted? Enough to reverse a century of landuse change? Hello?
http://www.blackwoodconservation.org/kilimanjaro_conservation.html

DAV
March 21, 2011 5:14 pm

“None of us had much history working on that mountain, and we didn’t understand a lot of the complicated processes on the peak like we do now.”
We got it wrong but “This time fer sure!”
http://bullwinkle.toonzone.net/heyrock2.wav

Robert of Texas
March 21, 2011 8:48 pm

Oh, but you need to keep reading…”but the effects of climate change and global warming could still affect the mountain’s snow layers which are becoming thinner and thinner.”
Priceless; the snow layers are thinning, so more new snow isn’t as good!
Where’s my Brandy… I need a drink.

Pamela Gray
March 22, 2011 8:26 am

Greater and greater amounts of snow is nice. But the amount that doesn’t melt compared to the amount that does is the key to glacier growth. It may be the case that glacier growth occurs at such a slow pace, it may be indiscernible within a human life span, but the degree to which it melts may be discernible. On top of that, all current glaciers likely cannot keep up with erosion. This means that glaciers are made very slowly during cold epics, and then lost quickly during warm epics (which explains our PANIC). By the time a new glacial period comes along, glaciers will build in places they were not, because the mountain that used to have one is now too low to support one.

kwik
March 22, 2011 3:39 pm

Oh no!
So the universe isn’t rotating around humanity after all?

savethesharks
March 22, 2011 8:07 pm

kwik says:
March 22, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Oh no!
So the universe isn’t rotating around humanity after all?
============================
That was hysterical! So true.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA

kate sisco
March 23, 2011 4:22 pm

Actually, in case no one has noticed our atmospheric content has altered. As have all the other orbiting bodies from info gathered here at the local drive up E. The part of our atmosphere that makes up the greenhouse gas, the fabled oxygen, is increasing.
More oxygen in atmos, more water vapor, more ice falling. Makes sense?

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