Paging Dr. Lonnie Thompson and Al Gore. From ETN:
“Global warming” has nothing to do with this, it’s all about rainfall, deforestation, and evapotranspiration. I’m not ashamed to say: “We told you so”, several times:
More proof that Kilimanjaro’s problems are man-made; but not what some think it is
Kilimanjaro’s snow – it’s about land use change, tree cutting
Oh no, not this Kilimanjaro ice rubbish again!
Another dumb climate stunt from NBC – climbing Kilimanjaro
Gore wrong on Kilimanjaro snow: Its the trees and “freezer burn”
Yet another inconvenient story ignored by the MSM.
h/t to ClimateDepot and Steve Goddard
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I’m just jazzed that they are suggesting that the effects of climate change are ending.
Climate boffins are nothing if not resilient in the face of contrary data. If you listen closely you can hear the goalposts moving.
So it turns out that the supposed melting of Kilimanjaro’s cap due to
AGW was just a snow job.
Ausie Dan says, “But where are the Trolls when we need them?
This rotten snow must really hurt.”
Preparing to eat “crow” with the missing ocean heat.
Yeah, well, the snow may be returning, but it’s too late for Kilimanjaro’s Polar Bears, because they’re all extinct!
Joshs AGW table has had yet another leg kicked out from under it.
maybe time to turn it into a side table?
Polar Bears, Fail
Kilimanjaro, Fail,
warming troposphere, Fail,
ocean heating, Fail
ricketty or plain Legless?
Dermot O’Logical says:
March 21, 2011 at 1:19 am
Is the land use around the mountain changing back to what it used to be?
Good point!
Hans Meyer, German geographer and the first man to climb Kilimanjaro, noted the ice retreat in 1898. He noted that the ice limit had withdrawn by over 100m since his first ascent 8 years earlier.
http://tinyurl.com/68sbmr6
Gore needs a primer and should stop his dis-information campaign.
Global warning melted the snow caps…
Climate change is bringing the snow caps back….
Climate crisis is threatening the snow caps…
Is this yet another hole in the cAGW hypothesis which will have to be re-filled with millions of dollars of grant money?
Up until now they were ignoring that it was a hole at all, and now that metaphoric water is pouring in that metaphoric hole, they will need to fill it with something, and cAGW grant money buys them the most convenient scientific conclusions to act as hole-bungs that money can buy.
:: sigh ::
Live web cam images of Kilimanjaro with archive:
http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Kilimanjaro/webcams/latest
John McCain said he became a believer in ‘manmade global warming’ because of Kilimanjaro losing snow. Doh!
No, it’s not rotten snow. It’s new snow. What counts is multi-year snow. There is an Algorithm that measures the amount of old snow versus new snow. Model results clearly show a continued decline in old snow.
“Environmentalists warn that this highest peak in Africa could lose its ice cover and glaciers between 2018 and 2020 unless global campaigns to save the mountain’s ecology are taken.”
The new information doesn’t seem to have gotten through to their spin doctors yet. For now, it’s just stay the course. They are so predictable in their gloom and doom ideology.
From John McCain’s web site, October 30, 2003:
My favorite author is Ernest Hemingway, as he is of many millions of people throughout the world. One of his most famous short stories is entitled “The Snows Of Kilimanjaro.”…… the snows of Kilimanjaro may soon exist only in literature.
http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressOffice.FloorStatements&ContentRecord_id=f886bdee-c111-1858-281d-7e2a520b42b9&Region_id=&Issue_id=bc036142-6f29-470a-9be9-37d306822ccf
He also said this:
……“Winters In New England Are Getting Shorter,” according to the USGS scientists
Doh!
This is a report from a tourist promotion group that cites only what a few people think they see. It does not cite any scientific studies or measurements. It may or may not be valid. Even if it is correct it is not at all clear that it is significant. Snow cover expansion where there was once solid ice may or may not be the beginning of a trend. Try to be at least a little skeptical.
Harp seals move their range south: http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/03/21/harp_seal_sightings_confound_biologists/?p1=Local_Links
What’ll be more fun will be when/if this year turns seriously south (colder).
Maybe I’m being paranoid but I have notice a dearth of recent images of Kilimanjaro from NASA and other Warmist sites. Am I looking in the wrong place. I would like to see recent, dated images. Any pointers.
Been burning wood like crazy, soaking my atmosphere around me with CO2. Still too damned cold for bats or worms. I’ll have to use artificial bait and last year’s roe if I want to try to catch a nice steelhead. And it is snowing, again, in Wallowa County right now.
Reminds me of our Easter pictures from the 50’s and very early 60’s. We stood in front of a snow bank for our Easter dress-up pictures before heading off to mass.
Current weather conditions. Brrrrr!
http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Kilimanjaro/6day/top
Because this has always been cyclical one needs only give time a chance to prove the current “trend” is just a segment of a well-established cycle. Because a trend looks like a very long cycle, and because serious long cycles predate observation requiring the use of proxies, and because proxies require interpretation, and because the interpreters have been shown to be corrupt bastids, best we just be patient.
My expert analysis reposted with permission from myself:
We have said all along that the science is settled, sometimes we have to adjust our predictions forward several decades because they don’t happen. You deniers like to twist these necessary recomputations from model adjustments as ‘moving the goal posts.’ It is unfair to consider it as such, because our previously settled science of AGW meaning less snow has now been slightly updated to AGW means more snow, so thus we have all along said that the snow would not disappear from Kilimanjaro because AGW causes more snow, as well as that the snow will disappear from Kilimanjaro as AGW causes less snow. Either scenario is not inconsistant with AGW. Thank you.
“Climate boffins are nothing if not resilient in the face of contrary data. If you listen closely you can hear the goalposts moving.”
Moving?
That sound is the goalposts leaving the stadium and hailing a taxi!
Look if they were really serious about snow cover on Kilimanjaro they would have Al Gore host a climate change conference there.