The Air Vent closes shop

I’m dismayed to see this, but not at all surprised. People (like Jeff, like me) who own businesses and are self employed while trying to raise family have it tough in this economy. If I didn’t have guest posters, and help with moderation, I couldn’t keep WUWT alive. I also understand Jeff’s frustrations with unruly posters. My only saving grace is that I had 25 years experience in TV news dealing with the public and the inevitable emotional BS that comes with highly charged debate.

Jeff has made a powerful contribution to the climate discussion, the most important of which is the publishing of a solid rebuttal of the Steig et al paper which used mangled Mannian math to smear warming on the Antarctic peninsula all over the continent, giving a false impression of continent wide warming. Even Steig himself agrees with the rebuttal.

Let’s not forget the pivotal role TAV played in Climategate as well.

Please take a moment to wish Jeff well, and to thank him for his contribution here.

Jeff, the door at WUWT is always open to you. I give my sincerest wishes for health, happiness, and success to you and to your family. Enjoy your retirement.

– Anthony Watts

Here is his post:

Closed

Posted by Jeff Id on January 21, 2011

Update:

There is a lot more I could say about this group of people who have read and commented here.  I know of very few unmoderated blogs which have been able to maintain such a civil tone through such controversial subjects.  That says a lot about the quality of this group.  Of all things, I think that is what makes tAV special.  The world is a rough place and when I sat down one sunny Saturday morning to start this blog just over two years ago, I expected very little. In the end, tAV contributed more to the discussion on a truly global scale than I had ever imagined.

I may be back after some time off but it is better to let readers know where I’m at.

Best regards to all.

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On the SOP thread we got into too heated a discussion.  I’ve had more than my fair share of the public lately and don’t know when tAV will be back.

Of all the elements of the periodic table stupididium is the most abundant.  The idiots pushed me over  the edge tonight.   I’ve had well enough of people who think they know — well anything — yet don’t have a clue.  The blog has been very much entertaining and I’ve appreciated the technical contributors very thoroughly.  I may continue someday in coming years but at this point… I’m done.

I’ve spent two years of my life in climate science, digging fairly deeply – I think you’ll agree.  My conclusion is that those who believe they know believe for unknowable reasons.  This includes BOTH sides.  In what I believe is the rarest of cases, the middle ground is the correct ground and that is where the climate battle lies.

I don’t know if I will post again here, it has been fun though.  Thanks to all who have been supportive and thanks to the guests.

Jeff Condon

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Monroe
January 22, 2011 10:22 pm

The Air Vent was my first look at a climate sceptic site, it won’t be my last.
Thanks Jeff.

Roger Knights
January 22, 2011 10:59 pm

Steven Mosher says:
January 22, 2011 at 3:46 am
Here is the thing about political comments.I already know what you are going to say. I’ve heard it all before. That’s not to say it doesnt have value for others, I speak only for myself.
My experience after having read these blogs since 2007 is that sooner or later every good science discussion gets derailed by a political or personal food fight.
SINCE the issues in the forefront at places like WUWT are the SHORTCOMINGS of the science, derailing that discussion is not in your interest.

I agree; political comments are counterproductive, especially sweeping ones — they make it easy for swarmists to dismiss the site as “right wing,” etc., they aren’t persuasive to middle-of-the-roaders, and they deter their participation here.

el gordo
January 23, 2011 12:22 am

Steven Mosher said: ‘Put at least 30 minutes of good research in before you make a comment, try that for a couple weeks. Then you might be adding to the conversation rather than derailing it.’
That is a fair comment.
Over at Jennifer Marohasy’s blog we have been restricted to one comment a day on each thread, to get some backbone into the debate instead of waffle or abuse.
Dr Marohasy is also giving long time warmist commenter (Luke Walker) an occasional guest post, a novel idea which should open up the debate.

edriley
January 23, 2011 5:57 am

Jeff,
Really enjoyed your site. Thanks for taking the time to share your insight with us. It has been enlightening and appreciated. Best wishes in your future endeavors.

Area Man
January 23, 2011 8:38 am

Nice to see the SOP thread has been restored. Good stuff.

tallbloke
January 23, 2011 1:41 pm

Sorry to hear about this.
All the best to Jeff for his future endeavours.

January 23, 2011 8:02 pm

Id WILL BE MISSED!!!!!!!!
sorry to see you go, you could post here once a week?????
would be good for all….
Thank you jeff for all your hard work
Sky Warmer

Sharpshooter
January 25, 2011 7:49 am

Safe and prosperous journey, Jeff.

Marcus
February 4, 2011 11:15 pm

Eric Steig is not accepting this work as a “rebuttal” but Esther expresses scientific disagreement
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/02/west-antarctica-still-warming-2/#more-5967
“Mangled mannian mathematics” On the other hand is an example phrase for Propaganda contaminising civilised scientific discussion. Probably that kind that frustrates jeff Id
regards, Marcus

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