Warming skeptic gets key Science post – may do "mean things"

No one’s mentioned the fox currently guarding the hen house. Wouldn’t that be a good place to start the “retirement” process ??

Bruce — Attacking Palin is like a secret Masonic handshake.
Nonsense.
I’m a (moderate!) republican and reckon her to be an idiot. Moreover IMHO she’s what ultimately gave us an inept clown for a president. The loss of the election was the fault of the twits who let her speak. She needs to go back to obscurity and find a rock to crawl under before she screws up the next one.
Mosher — I would suggest that he avoid personal witch hunts against Mann and others. that ONLY gives them talking points.
I disagree in that **anything** that doesn’t go Mann’s way will be attacked with just as much vitriol as attacking Mann himself with a rusty spoon. Gore wasn’t gentlemanly enough to concede in 2000, and Mann strikes me as even worse. There’s going to be a pig fight no matter what.
Since this seems to be the lay of the land, I’m all for burying the SOB. This is a fight, and your being a gentleman about it is — most unfortunately — not how you win in today’s dumbed down world. The only thing GW Bush got was 8 years of screeching about being “selected” president.
Since this is the way the b**tards want it, then we may as well resign ourselves to getting it over with and stomping Mann’s guts out as part of the deal no matter how distasteful or wasteful some aspects may seem.

He may uncover some actual “inconvenient” truth.
Even if some of these new Representatives are liberal, the season for a cap and trade bill is over.

About the “better surface stations”, I posted this on one of JC’s blogs (Michael’s controversial testimony):

The average ‘global temperature’ for the 40 years from 1950 to 1989 is 1.5° below the average for the 11 yrs. from 1990 to 2000.
In 1990-91, inclusion of data from ~60% of the reporting stations was (permanently) discontinued.
The coincidence beggars belief.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/ball120610-2.jpg
Cutting reporting stations by half seems to pay off with about a 1.3°C absolute jump in “trend”, virtually instantaneously.
Of course, it’s quite possible that the cut stations might have to be skillfully chosen, rather than counting on random elimination and simple coarsening to do the trick. But I’m sure the ‘keepers are up to the job!
The obvious ones to go for, based on past successes, are the ones with high “‘tudes” (altitudes and latitudes). Then go for the lonely isolated ones far from the loving attention of meteorologists at airports and data centers. If there are any of those left; Anthony Watts seems to be having a hard time locating many.

Heh. 😉
I’ll probably get banned. Or just ignored.

See what you can achieve when you know the REAL “forcing driver”?
😀

I’m with Moshpit on this one. My hope is that this will happen:
“Fix the process.
1. Open data and money to support open data. ( data is being lost by the terabyte)
2. Free the code and money to support free code.
3. More money for reclaiming stored historical data.
4. An official statistical office for generating a US/world temperature series.”
But more likely, this will not happen because this doesn’t fall into the current political debate framework. Free data and code doesn’t really fall into the current US political mindset – the great bear of the 21st century, “intellectual property” appears to be king.

Brian, are you still seriously suggesting that global warming is not really happening but only due to measurement error in US data? And that a singly jump in temperatures in 1991 is the main sign of warming? Doesn’t sound very convincing at first sight.
Despite all the fuss and the repeating of the UHI-meme, there still is no evidence that UHI has any significant impact beyond the level of blogs while a number of peer-reviewed papers have shown little or no effect. And what effect was found, is already corrected for in climate models.
Get your results into the literature – that’s the only way to impress the frequenters of the blog you were addressing. Without that validation, they might rightly refer you to the literature and ignore any of your assertions.

It’s about bloody time. We need to fund honest people without an agenda.
Hansen going to jail…hurray.
Ed.

[snip – dial it back in imagined projections on Mann and Hansen ~mod]

Be generous! Allow a month for Mann, Jones, and Hansen to arrange asylum in Zimbabwe.

Sense Seeker
I suggest that you get up to date with published peer reviewed papers on UHI.
Also take a look at the temperature history of individual truely rural locations or those that are not otherwise marred by UHI.
You’ll not find any long term temperature rise, just cyclic fluctiations.

I think that Mosher is definitely right to call for people like Palin to stay clear of the debate. In the first place, I think she is likely to damage the skeptic cause by making easily discredited counterfactual statements , however even if she did study up and get a clue, she is likely to turn-off many people skeptics side need to convert, while not bringing anyone with her who isn’t already on side.
I disagree about not going after Mann et al., however. The have done immense damage to the moral authority of science, and their continued bad faith and efforts to just brazen it out make my blood boil. They need to meet with the scientific equivalent of having their heads placed on pikes, as a warning to others.