From the “weather is not climate department” – New record low temperatures set in Cancun for three straight days, and more new low temperature records are possible this week.
Dr. Roy Spencer, who is in Cancun representing climate skepticism on behalf of CFACT writes on his blog:
Today’s my first full day in Cancun at COP-16, and as I emerged from my hotel room I was greeted by a brisk, dry, cool Canadian breeze.
It was 54 deg. F in Cancun this morning — a record low for the date. (BTW, Cancun is nowhere near Canada).
Al Gore is not supposed to be here…but it could be that the Gore Effect has announced his secret arrival. We will check into this.
Here’s the record for today from Weather Underground:
The old record low temperature of 57°F was bested today by four degrees.
And for the previous two days, new record lows have been set:
The weather forecast for the week ahead does not look encouraging, additional low temperature records may be set:
Here are existing Record Lows and Forecast Lows in upcoming days:
Wednesday: 53 °F (2003) Forecast: 51°F
Thursday: 60 °F (2000) Forecast: 59°F
Friday: 60 °F (1999) Forecast: 55°F
Saturday: 57 °F (2003) Forecast: 53°F
Sunday: 55 °F (2008) Forecast: 51°F
The Cancun delegates certainly live in “interesting times”.
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Could record lows be helped by UHI effect? It is great that warmists could never consider using this as an excuse because they would then have to admit their record highs were subject to the same necessary adjustments.
We in the UK should write to the Dept. of Energy and Climate Change with a copy to our MP to let them know in no uncertain terms that we are not taking this cr#p any longer.
That they are still pushing renewables, in the face of all the evidence and real world experience against them, entitles us to be as scathing and contemptuous as our upbringing will allow.
I have sent:-
The lack of news reportage from Cancun in the Main Stream Media, demonstrates that at last the AGW / Climate Change meme is dead and that few rats remain on the sinking ship, although some have been marooned in Mexico by the fast ebbing tide of public confidence – when is Kuhne coming back , by the way?
On his return you might wish to advise him to address his deficient intellect to the rather more pertinent part of his portfolio, ENERGY, and that a further revision of the departmental name, in the form of an abbreviation to that one word, might be considered politically astute, in a country entering it’s second week of subzero temperatures.
His first act could be to apologise for annually wasting billions of pounds, on windfarms, wavepower, miniature hydro plants, and related ill conceived scams, extorted disproportionately from the energy poor by means of the escalating Renewables Obligation. I will let him off photo voltaic as I believe his budgie crapped in the form of his signature on the paper proposing this little beauty and it went through in error.
He could then explain how a sustained 20% from renewables (excluding nuclear, bizarrely not to be subsidised) by 2020 is going to happen, when the vast arrays currently in production barely produce 1.5% of total consumption on a good day, and less than 0.2% for a surprising proportion of the year.
Anthropological CO2 is a discredited theory propounded and sustained by second rate Universities in pursuit of huge grant monies dispensed with abandon by reckless politicians. IT IS OVER – we don’t believe you!
If your real reason for insulting our intelligence with this nonsense was in fact to wean us on to a more reliable energy base than at present, which in the current world political climate is a sensible and laudable aim, then please divulge all the facts and let us have that debate.
The answer will undoubtedly be nuclear on a grand scale, just like France, which exports power daily to us through the French Interconnector – but you know that already don’t you?
But how to tell the arch idiot and nuclearphobe Chris Kuhne, there’s the rub.
Meanwhile, Britain tries to move towards an eco-communista state:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/08/carbon_budget_2030/
Narf.
SO they will adjourn early? Little chilly for the beach. Need to go further south next time.
SWFL is also freezing cold, hoping the crops aren’t wiped out, the inshore shallow water fish are in serious trouble.
In response to criticism that he was off to a beach resort at Cancun, the Australian Minister for Climate Change, Greg Combet, said words to the effect “Well we’re not taking our swimmers, we’re going there to work”. Now I can see why swimmers are not an option.
Dear Mod(s),
am I persona non grata or have my last two attempts at commenting dropped off the radar?
If the comments are still around, please only put up the first & delete the second.
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Dave
This is why they try not to use global warming, but climate disruption. If record highs are the only thing you get to talk about you can’t make a political case. If you can talk about everything (including the cold in Cancun) then you can talk about a lot.
John Kehr
“Dr. Spencer? Didn’t they claim Cancun was ‘skeptic-free’?”
Maybe they invited him so they could boast about representing all sides of the debate. He´s an easy target because of his views on ID, too (though I know only what the media has told me about his views).
Amazing, Ha Ha Ha!!!
Trouble is, Dr. Roy (Spencer) is a great man (knows his stuff – like you do Anthony!!), (though)…………………………..is anybody listening?
Mind you, hit count = 62 mill’ so…………………………somebody gets it (TGFT).
Ben U. says:
December 8, 2010 at 12:32 am
If a sufficient number of Gorish warmists gather and are as boring as Gore in his momentous absence, then they may operate by the same heat sink rules, drain the surrounding energy, and depress the temperature.
You may be onto something there, Ben. In the future, this may become known as the “Goreiolis Effect”.
“mmmmm If this weird phenomenon happens one more time, I will have to rethink my atheism.”
Me too! There seems to be a lot of what Adam Smith called the “invisible hand” around lately.
CAGW getting a head of steam before a 100 yr solar minimum occurring
Copenhagen frozen in.
Murray Darling scheme hidden until after the election, and then bulk rain.
And now the Gore effect in Cancun.
Every time something like this occurs I exclaim “There is a God”
Not to worry about the record lows, the temps will surely be “adjusted” soon to reflect the desired upward trend.
Ryan Maue says:
December 8, 2010 at 12:07 am
Word of caution:
hummmm.
Pressure:
Last Updated: Wed Dec 8 12:15:48 UTC 2010
Maximum: 1082mb (31.94″) [SLMG:Magdalena, Bolivia]
http://coolwx.com/extreme/
But,
1082 mb (NOAA)…..
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/SLMG.html
~1010 mb
http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/SLMG/2010/12/8/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA
Strange.
I missed something …..
The good doctor seems to regard Canada as the big bad boogieman of cold. Here in Nova Scotia, sunday`s high was 54F. Warm and sunny too. A beautiful May day in December.
Spenser remembers Canadian weather of yore: it isn`t like that now. The past decade has featured a Christmas day warmer than July 1 . 2008 had a November week (3) so warm, we didn`t use the furnace for 7 days.
Weird eh?
Once in a lifetime event? That can’t be right. A few weeks ago the U.K. Met Office forecast a moderate winter, if memory serves me right.
Just a reminder. Citrus fruit requires cold weather to sweeten. It evolved that way for a reason.
Yet another travesty. Are we having fun yet?
North America is about to experience a similar if not a worse winter compared to the last LA NINA winter of 2007-2008. We in Ontario are already experiencing some of this with some communities having over a meter of snow already this past week. More is to come this week-end and more next week. Note that 676cm of snow in Quebec represented 22.5 feet of snow during the 2007/2008 winter
2007/2008WINTER EASTERN CANADA
Ontario and Quebec endured one of the longest and snowiest winters in years. At times, even snow enthusiasts had had enough and were desperate for spring. Every winter sees snow on the ground for weeks at a time, but not every winter has snow falling almost every day. Winter 2007-2008 was defined by the amount of snow and the record number of snow events. The Great Lakes and St. Lawrence River Basin registered its third-wettest winter in 61 years, with most of the precipitation falling as the white stuff. Among locations recording above 500 cm of snow were: Mont Ste-Anne, 676 cm; Quebec City, 558 cm (record); Muskoka, 558 cm; Gander, 534 cm; Deer Lake, 534 cm; and Bathurst, 510 cm (record). Other locations with new seasonal snowfall records were: St. Leonard (492 cm); Trois-Rivières (457.6 cm); Montréal-Mirabel International Airport (375.6 cm); Trenton (270.8 cm); Kitchener-Waterloo (251.9 cm); and Toronto Buttonville Municipal Airport (250.8 cm).
2. http://www.ec.gc.ca/meteo-weather/default.asp?lang=En&n=B2EA41B2-1
http://www.ec.gc.ca/meteo-weather/default.asp?lang=En&n=4CE24D99-1
Yet the gang in CANCUN and WMO are telling the world that this is record warm year and they went out their way to point out how warm winters we have in Canada. Talk about our world governments and their global warming alarmists being out of tune with the world they live in .
Has snow ever fallen in Cancun?
If you look at the latest Ocean SST map, there has been significant switch in temperatures in the North Atlantic, the Gulf of Mexico and leading up to Europe. Ocean SSTs are quite a bit cooler surrounding Europe for example.
It looks like this is La Nina cooling setting in. The atmospheric cooling of a La Nina impacts the Tropics directly with its east-west winds and then it also bleeds off to the north, northeast and south east which is the pattern showing up now.
http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2010/anomnight.12.6.2010.gif
I wonder how many bathing suits have been brought to Cancun but won’t be worn.
I think that’s all the doing of the negative Arctic Osscillation. Air off the eastern US gets pushed westward into Canada. Last winter from mid January on the “Arctic outbreaks” in New Hampshire was just recycled maritime air. Further west in the Central US (including Florida) missed that and got full force Arctic air.
Here’s hoping for low heating bills again. (Caveat – here’s hoping for lotsa snow too, new snowblower gets delivered today!)
Although pro-CAGW folks get called warmists, they’re actually anti-warming and constantly praying for a reduction in temperatures. So when you accumulate a critical mass of anti-warming believers they presumably generate anti-heat, as demonstrated at the last two COPs and too a lesser extent, during the passing of the UK’s econonomic destruction. I mean Climate Change Act.
Some climate scientists already have peer-reviewed papers demonstrating how strong belief allows temperatures to be inverted with ease, and these have been widely accepted by the anti-warming community as evidence of climate change. This is after all the root of the ‘hide the decline’ problem which clearly demonstrates how a negative signal is proof of anti-heat. It’s warming, but not warming as has been classicly understood.
As this is a somewhat radical hypothesis, further research funds are necessary to enable me to conduct an in-depth study involving travel to exotic destinations and locking anti-warming believers in warehouses. This will be a controlled experiment replicating the trade show environment as seen in Copenhagen and Cancun. Limited communications will be allowed from inside the climate labs to prevent contamination. Myself and a team of dedicated researchers will perform a thorough detection and attribution study to determine if there are any changes to night time temperatures or nightlife, and beaches to determine impact on sea levels. 10 years of data collected at the most topical, tropical hot spots around the equator should allow this theory to be tested in a scientific manner.
Cash, cheques or paypal accepted, sorry, no carbon tokens.
Bill, it’s that southward flow of cold water that makes me go hmmmmm. If this cold water stays around during the next ice buildup season down there, we might see the beginnings of Antarctic ice bridges, something that has declined in previous decades. If those bridges begin to build up, even in places we haven’t seen in our life times, is it possible we might see the beginnings of an ice bridge crossing the Antarctic strait? And might this deflect the rather chilly circumpolar current into the Atlantic at a greater volume than currently is the case? And might this infusion of cold water substantially cool the Atlantic ocean?
Is the carnival barker named Joe Romm reporting this news? Or is he still clinging to ice stories? When he attacks Joe Bastardi, the Gore effect fights back.
@Ripper:
“Every time something like this occurs I exclaim “There is a God””
Not only that, He must have a sense of humor too 🙂