Yesterday we saw the satellite image of the UK, buried under snow for the second time in 2010, see UK Covered in snow, for the second winter. And we’ve seen and heard the reports about the impact snow is having in the UK and in Europe. Now let’s have alook at some cold records.
Translated from http://www.yr.no/english/1.7405789 yr.no is the joint online weather service from the Norwegian Meteorological Institute and the Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation.
Norway got over a hundred new records in November.
Cold, colder, coldest. Unless you remember back to the year 1919, November 2010 is definitely the “coldest.”
The whole country is in the freezer
In the middle of November, it was extremely cold in many parts of the country, “says Hans Olav Hygen.
It is not uncommon for parts of the country to stand out when meteorologists summarize the weather of the past. This time the whole of Norway that stands out.
“It is so special that large areas are cold at once. It has simply been an unusual situation that has pumped cold air into the country, “said Hygen.
On the whole, Norway has therefore experienced the coldest month of November since 1919, with the full 3.57 degrees below the normal level. Because the norm is regarded as cold , this is a very big difference!
In many parts of the country, this is the coldest November in living memory, “commented Hygen.
Of the various regions is the Trøndelag and western that stands out the most:
| Region | Deviations from the norm | |
|---|---|---|
| Norway | -3,57 | |
| Eastern | -3,66 | |
| Agder College | -2,85 | |
| Western Norway | -3,58 | |
| Trøndelag | -4,42 | |
| North Norway | -3,28 |
Norwegian November stats published today showing 93 of 200 national stations setting record lows (average or absolute) for November.
http://www.yr.no/nyheter/1.7405789
A station like Utsira, in the middle of the Gulf current, had a min low of -6.2 beating the 1890 record of -5.6
h/t to readers “rtgr” and Geir Nøklebye
tarpon says: at 6:21 am
. . . nuclear power plants can be now built on assembly lines, improving quality, making the construction the same, and improving the cost.
These are good thoughts, but still, just thoughts.
Olkiluoto 3 was originally scheduled to be in operation in 2009 but is now about 4 years behind and double budget.
http://www.xe.com/news/2010/11/26/1548209.htm?c=1&t=
So, I agree – “better start building” because they won’t come too soon.
66 today in the Denver area, thank you La Nina!
I know this sounds trivial, but all this winter weather is taking place in the fall. I believe it lasts until the 21st.
Every winter when it is cold we burn a lot of coal to get warm. Hence, we produce a lot of CO2 and what is happening? With a few months lag we get really hot weather. CAGW is happening every year 😉
John Marshall says: at 7:13 am . . . that car ran all night
I use a block heater:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/517643/how_to_install_a_block_heater_in_your.html?cat=27
Some relevant photos:
http://www.kennedydiesel.com/dmaxblockheater.html
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C.M. Carmichael says: at 1:00 pm
Seasonal starts are country specific. The USA follows the sun but some places use a calendar – first of the month thing.
Apparently the polar bears suddenly started carrying their cubs around 2007 due to AGW, but this webpage, after a quick search says:
http://www.seaworld.org/infobooks/polarbears/pbbirth.html
Date of publication: 2001.
“When ready, the mother polar bear leads her cubs to sea ice. Travel is slow with frequent rest and nursing stops. A mother will sometimes carry her cubs on her back through areas of deep snow or water”
So it’s more nonsense to scare to sheep.
Nice and warm here in Nova Scotia Canada. 46F and out and about without a jacket. Does that negate cold in Norway? Don’t be silly. Local means nothing globaly.
Interesting to see that Norway suffered from abnormal cold last month. In Hungary, we had the 6 or 7th warmest November since 1780. In contrast, 2010 October was the coldest in the last 40 years.
December tends to be below normal again: http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_Budapest_ens.png
Look,
Most of the temperature, snow, rain “records” come from city centers and/or airports. Quit complaining, you rural folks; its time to move to the center of the airports. We can buy and move those inexpensive foreclosed homes.
In addition, airports have the best snow removal equipment. After removal of snow the runways heat up faster (less reflection) so your new home will be warmer. This will be needed during a “quiet Sun”.
By the way, where are those Solar Physicists? Why haven’t they predicted the “quiet Sun” . Oh, I forgot, Solar Science is settled.
You all have heard/read that the Sun is 75% H and 25% He. But in the core, the Sun is 75% He and 25% H and other things. Maybe the core runs low on H every 400 years and the migration of H into the core takes a while; maybe 50 years (see Maunder Minimum).
Bottom line -> As it gets colder [quiet Sun], move to where it is warmer. It is warmer where the AGW people measure temperature!!!
jantar: “However the raw data from Cliflo shows that it was no different to 1937, 1958, 1985, and possibly cooler than 2007, 2008, and 2009.”
I’m not familiar with “Cliflo”, but the newspaper articles I linked to said that November was one of the warmest on record, and that several temperature records were broken.
“This was also the first November since 2001 that we’ve had to light the wood burner because of the cold.”
One of the articles I linked to refered to “above average” November temperatures, so a few cold nights don’t negate that claim.
Anecdotally, the warmer-than-normal November strikes me as credible. For example, it’s notable that temperatures in some parts of the deep south have on a number of occasions exceeded temperatures up north. You usually only get that sort of situation later in the summer rather than in spring, and for some places like Invercargilll, it’s rare even then.
Dr Roy Spencer’s data for November is now on his site:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/
Although still comparatively high, the “satellite temperature” has dropped further to +0.38 degC
Ralph says:
December 3, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Garethman says in response,
The spelling is Cancun. Therefore a plural or indication of belonging would not be spelt in the way indicated above. I am not not sure why it has been spelt in a way that could suggest a racist insult, but hopefully it is a one off and will not be repeated.
You are being hyper sensitive here, aren’t you? Perhaps it reflects the way you think.
I read this as meaning ‘oon’ as in ‘loon’ (loony).
Lunar becomes Loon, in ridicule, and thus Cun becomes Coon.
So the simpletons of Cancun have to be Cancoons. To write Cuncuns would be idiotic, and have no ridicule merit whatsoever. (if one wishes to ridicule, of course).
Stop seeing racism in every knot and wrinkle of language.
.Garethman says:
Ah yes………..of course, it’s just me being sensitive. Tortuous rationale, but there we are, However I think the point has been made and hopefully we shall see no more of this sort of posting. Perhaps your connection with lunacy reflects the way you think?
In the final analysis lets hope the Cancunians as a local population have more sense than their visitors who it is hoped may see more pressing needs in that blighted Caribbean playground than the billion pound Dutch auctions rooted in discredited sciences.
For those of you determined to believe at all costs that “snow in your backyard means the whole world is freezing” the following excerpt from The Age newspaper will make your eyes squeeze shut.
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The 2010 heatwave has hit some of the world’s poorest and most vulnerable areas, with swathes of northern Africa and southern Asia sweltering through record average temperatures. New benchmarks were also set at the Greenland ice sheet and the Canadian Arctic, with average temperatures more than three degrees above normal.
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The original contrasts this with the cold temps elsewhere.
Don’t blame me if you walk into the coffee table and get a bruise on your thigh.
By changing the name from “global warming” to “climate change” climatologists made it clear that they’re not very confident which way global temperatures are headed. Global cooling would be much more catastrophic than global warming. If there’s a chance we’re headed toward another ice age, shouldn’t we be cranking out CO2 as fast as we can to mitigate the damage?
Paul80 and others, asking whether “2010 is almost certain to rank as one of the hottest three years on record” etc.
The El Nino this year lasted much longer than many had expected. If you accept that global lower troposphere temperatures as measured by satellite are a reasonable indication of global temperature, then the highest Jan-Oct global temperatures in the satellite era (1979+), from RSS, are:
0.61 1998
0.56 2010
0.39 2005
0.35 2002
0.35 2007
0.34 2003
0.28 2006
0.26 2004
0.25 2009
0.23 2001
0.18 1995
0.13 1991
Clearly 2010 is in the top three years, and likely to stay there even if Nov & Dec temperatures drop sharply. And clearly the last decade will be the warmest of the three decades of the satellite age.
It doesn’t prove AGW, just that this last El Nino was quite a powerful one. But warmists may exploit it of course.
(RSS temperatures from http://www.remss.com/data/msu/monthly_time_series/RSS_Monthly_MSU_AMSU_Channel_TLT_Anomalies_Land_and_Ocean_v03_2.txt)
Kevin Mowen says: December 3, 2010 at 7:05 am
Seconded. Especially with the refutation of Steig’s Antarctica “warming” in Nature. Willis?
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The Norwegian part of me is over the moon that Norway has broken so many records for cold, and that we now see so many Norwegians posting here. Norway has been pretty bad re. AGW – and that is shameful because Norwegians have traditionally been the best weather recorders (and hence, climate observers, and polar explorers) through sheer necessity.
The English part of me fears for the coming cold, comfort-wise.
Brendan H says:
December 3, 2010 at 10:36 am
EM Smith: “And the Pacific is showing decidedly cold…”
Not where I live:
‘Weather records are being broken throughout the country by one of the strongest weather systems in the past 50 years…Monthly temperatures for November were more than two degrees above average throughout the South Island, where many long-term November temperature records were broken. It was also 0.5C to 1.2C warmer than usual throughout most of the North Island.”’
Thanks. Comparisons such as the one you make are valuable. However, as someone who has lived in Florida, Missouri, and Virginia over the last few decades, I am unaware of “hot spells” that compare to the many “cold spells” that occurred. I report cold spells, such as our third annual December disaster in Central Florida, because they are very extreme and have very nasty effects on the foliage. If I knew of comparable hot spells, I would report them just as readily. But the last hot spell I experienced was in Missouri in 1982 when we found ourselves mowing grass in November, at least two months late. What gives? Must I chalk up my experience to “Weather” and say that it is evidence of nothing while I must take seriously an abstract “global average” that depends on utterly mysterious calculations undertaken on the basis of temperature readings that are notoriously unreliable? Will the “global average” always remain purely abstract? Why should I care about it?
My question is why is it only 10C inside the house?
We’ve one of these in/out thermometers as well, I was impressed with our -33 and +23 inside from a couple of winters ago. Before that was only able to get +19 to +20 inside by the windows during these cruel minus temps, until we changed them to better ones.
Being from northern Ont, I can tell you what it’s like to have square tires start your morning route to work. Hopefully unlike me, you’ve remembered to unplug the car as these grounded extension cords are not cheap by the week… and the am radio announcer says in an overly cheery voice, expecting a high today of minus twenty-two with sunshine – oh yippy; wiper fluid is slushy and/or pump is weak, so you’re scrapping ice off the windshield inside and out, the side windows, the side mirrors, scrapping the windows by hand to see out as you not dare use your power windows in case they freeze open. I’d be happy with a slight temp increase in our region during winters.
~ anyone who believes in AWG must be living in a cocoon, JMHO.
Now that temps are dropping due to AGW, what better time to spend WAY more on energy sources you all require to stay alive in your homes! Invest in green energy(Ill invest in a wood boiler btw as everything else will be taxed to the skies) and you can use that warm feeling from being green friendly to stave off the frost bite lol. Cant you people see that its a scheme to make us all pay taxes on the basic necessities to stay alive? Dont pay, then die. No need to send to collections lol. Most of the developed world happens to be in climates that require heat in the winter to keep from freezing to death. Hmmmmm. How convenient.
Theo Goodwin: “Must I chalk up my experience to “Weather” and say that it is evidence of nothing while I must take seriously an abstract “global average” that depends on utterly mysterious calculations undertaken on the basis of temperature readings that are notoriously unreliable?”
In my original post I was pointing out that the claim that the Pacific is “decidedly cold” was not accurate for at least a portion of the south-west Pacific that I am familiar with. So everybody will have a story to tell about the weather.
I can’t say whether your experiences of warm and cold weather periods is either accurate or significant, so I can’t make any comment.
Otherwise, your question is essentially rhetorical, so you will already know the answer you are looking for.
“Will the “global average” always remain purely abstract? Why should I care about it?”
An average is an abstraction, anyway. But the way I read the “global average” is as a proxy for energy, and that seems to have been incereasing over time.
As to why you should care about it, that would depend on whether you accept that the global average temperature is an indication of climate change, which in turn could bring undesirable effects. If you don’t accept those things, then there’s no reason for you care about it.
Brendan H says:
December 3, 2010 at 8:00 pm
As to why you should care about it, that would depend on whether you accept that the global average temperature is an indication of climate change, which in turn could bring undesirable effects. If you don’t accept those things, then there’s no reason for you care about it.
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Wha? Huh???
And there is definitely no reason for me to care about your musings here, either.
What the hell are you going on about? We can not be sure.
But I think I get the gist. NZ….warm.
Big flippin’ deal.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
150 countries could experience 10 months of record or near record coldest months in some given year and somehow CRU/GISS/NASA will tell everybody throughout that year that the year is one of the 3 or 4 warmest on record. And then, Voila! At the end of the year, there are the adjusted numbers, smacking everybody in the face, turning an entire year of cold weather into an entire year of warm climate. – and proving that weather is not climate…
It only hurts when we laugh…
>>Tortuous rationale, but there we are, However I think the point has
>>been made and hopefully we shall see no more of this sort of posting.
The point has been made that you are one of those super-sensitive types who take offense at every possible juncture. And because of this I daresay that the Loons at Cancun will be known as the Cancoons for ever more.
BTW, I made a mistake. Because the moon is female, she should be Luna with the ‘a’ suffix. From which we derive luna-tic. Sol, on the other hand is male. Thus an eclipse was the cosmic bodies in flagrante delecto, which is why an eclipse was such an important event. In symbology, it is represented by the Star of David.
“The point has been made that you are one of those super-sensitive types who take offense at every possible juncture. And because of this I daresay that the Loons at Cancun will be known as the Cancoons for ever more”.
Thank you for your psycho-analytical profile of my personality which you appear to have carried out despite having never having met me or knowing anything about me. Throughout the ages complaints like mine were call “being sensitive” or “having no sense of humour” Fortunately we have moved on are now more aware of the impact of our jibes and digs at other cultures. By the way I don’t think our opponents in this debate are mad, they are just wrong. If such words were directed at us I ‘m sure Anthony would flag up the idiocy of such attacks. To band about any such words also undermines the suffering of victims of mental illness across the world.
You may claim the right to continue posting words which could be considered by some offensive, You will no doubt continue to rationalise why that’s OK. But hopefully people like me will continue to remind you of why it’s not OK, and keep this site based in science and our cause and not used as a vehicle for the promotion of left or right wing bigotry or insults to other cultures and peoples wherever they may be.
It’s damn cold here in Norway, no doubt!! This article is not correct, becuase it was published (at yr.no) on 30.nov. The last 24 hours was even colder, the average for novemer dropped from 3,57 to 3,9. Nov 2010 now share the record with nov 1919.
We’re looking forward to a new cold and snowy winter, like we had last year. The coldest winter on record (dec-feb) i Norway was in 1965-66, it started also with a cold November…
Btw, this is not a Norwegian “problem”. Most of europe got cold, snow and problems.