I wonder if the “Climate Science Rapid Response Team” is going?
From PR Newswire Available for Radio and All Media
CANCUN, Mexico, Nov. 24, 2010 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — CFACT, the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, will feature two prominent experts on climate science and policy at COP 16, the UN conference on climate change which convenes next week in Cancun.
Lord Christopher Monckton will be in Cancun December 1 – 10.
Dr. Roy Spencer will be in Cancun December 6 – 10.
Both will be available (allowing for travel) before and after Cancun.
Last year COP 15 in Copenhagen ended without serious progress on a successor treaty to the Kyoto protocol. A series of meetings in Germany and China were likewise inconclusive. The UNFCCC is under severe pressure to jump start the treaty process in Mexico, however, public doubts about climate science and policy coupled with an inability of developed and developing nations to find common ground leave the UNFCCC with a daunting task ahead.
With billions at stake for carbon traders (whose markets expire with the Kyoto protocol), warming science and policy campaigners, developing nations and subsidized industries in Cancun, the push for a new treaty will be fierce. The treaty proposals being circulated impose crippling costs and regulations that will choke off economic recovery while doing nothing to alter the climate. CFACT, Dr. Spencer and Lord Monckton will open minds and effectively challenge a scientific “consensus” that never was, detail global warming’s scope, causes and effects, separate smart energy strategies from waste and skewer the global warming lobby’s propaganda and abusive tactics.
Dr. Roy W. Spencer is a Principal Research Scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. He was formerly a Senior Scientist for Climate Studies at NASA. He is co-developer of the original satellite method for precise monitoring of global temperatures from Earth-orbiting satellites. He has provided congressional testimony several times on the subject of global warming. He recently wrote, The Great Global Warming Blunder: How Mother Nature Fooled the World’s Top Climate Scientist. In 2008 he wrote The New York Times bestseller, Climate Confusion.
Lord Christopher Monckton, Third Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, has been a leader of CFACT’s delegations to numerous UN summits. He has held positions with the British press and in government, as a press officer at the Conservative Central Office and as Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher’s policy advisor. Monckton advised Thatcher on technical issues such as warship hydrodynamics, psephological modeling; embryological research, hydrogeology, public-service investment analysis, public welfare modeling, and epidemiological analysis. He is author of a detailed analysis and summary of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Changes’ Fourth Assessment Report.
SOURCE Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow
h/t to R. de Haan
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Remind me. Does the Kyoto Protocol expire in 2012? Can’t wait.
UN Permanent Emergency Session sought for Kyoto
“George Dvorsky, a director of the Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies summarises his preferred way forward as follows ‘Given the failure of Copenhagen, I’m inclined to believe that semi-annual conferences are not the way to go. Instead, I’d like to see the United Nations assemble an international and permanent emergency session that is parliamentary in nature (i.e. representative and accountable) and dedicated to debating and acting on the problem of anthropogenic climate change (a sub-parliament, if you will).
The decisions of this governing board would be binding and impact on all the nations of the world.”
http://spectator.org/blog/2010/11/26/un-permanent-emergency-session
Prediction-if what I am seeing in North Korea/South Korea is any indication Cancun is not going to even be on the Radar. I think things there are about to get very unpleasant.
In Ireland, despite snow storm and freezing temperatures over 100.000 people protest against the EU and the UN IMF bail out, not prepared to give up the countries sovereignty and not prepared to compensate for the continuing bank bail outs.
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/11/parish-news-not.html
It would be good if someone Dr. Spencer respects were to advise him not associate himself with Monckton.
Douglas DC says: “Prediction-if what I am seeing in North Korea/South Korea is any indication Cancun is not going to even be on the Radar. I think things there are about to get very unpleasant.”
The Administration and its lapdog MSM will happily accept any and all distractions. Lindsay Lohan, where are you when your President needs you?
Steeptown
“Remind me. Does the Kyoto Protocol expire in 2012? Can’t wait.”
AGW may expire before 2012
Douglas, I hope you’re wrong. Not only for the obvious reasons but also because I can see them shoving somegthing through while the world’s attention is elsewhere.
A small request.
Please write UNO, not UN. It is not a unity of nations, it is an organization. It is probably not your friend.
Do this everywhere.
hunter says:
“It would be good if someone Dr. Spencer respects were to advise him not associate himself with Monckton.”
Why not?
Maybe Dr Spencer sees through the alarmists’ Saul Alinsky-type of ad hominem attacks against Lord Monckton – who regularly spanks their heroes in public debates. How embarassing, eh?
Just to make clear where we’re heading in the US and Europe, two examples from the blogs today:
Your money is government’s major power over you
The Government-Triggered Subprime Meltdown And Other Government Insanity!
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/30459
Huge EU funds plan to corrupt Czech science and fabricate Czech alarmists
http://motls.blogspot.com/2010/11/huge-eu-funds-plan-to-corrupt-czech.html
Spencer is fantastic, and I like Monkton on a personal level, but I kinda wish Dr. Richard Lindzen would be there as well! I really enjoyed his testimony before Congress when he sat on the panel before Congress:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/11/18/profess-richard-lindzens-congressional-testimony/
Man, he REALLY makes ’em squirm! It is a long clip, but I highly recommend watching the entire video of this event. The guy knows his stuff, period.
What we have to do is to tell everyone we can, at every opportunity, that they are being led up the garden path. Current UK snow helps (tho’ weather ain’t climate)
And to keep abreast of Cancun, lest nasty things are agreed to while MSM interest is elsewhere or they parrot the warmists line, so we can alert people.
Widespread popular rejection of CAGW does have a (slow) political effect – I hope!
“UN Permanent Emergency Session”, how alarming.
I guess they will need onje of these:
“A series of meetings in Germany and China were likewise inconclusive.”
Pity that Cancun is not in Germany.
http://www.meteogroup.co.uk/uk/home/weather/latest-model-forecasts/gfs-popup/archiv/Germany/t2m/2010112712/nothumb/on/132/ch/934a0c48ef1e1cb638f15491c5c45b0d.html
Message to Mr. George Dvorsky:
To have some unelected bureaucratic committee rule the world, first you have to defeat us in the field. In the meantime [snip] yourself.
You don’t have to agree with Monckton about everything but he does talk sense on climate issues. He talks rubbish on some other things. Being right about one thing doesn’t make you right about everything so I find all that blurb about him annoying. Also, why do people keep mentioining his viscountness? That is relevant to what exactly?
Surely at AGW scammers won’t allow Monkton and Spencer to speak openly at the conference ?
Actually, I can’t think of a more dynamic duo to unleash on Cancun. Say what you will about Monckton, the man knows his stuff and even more importantly, he is quite skilled at communicating these concepts to lay people (and idiots like politicians). Spencer is fantastic, his credentials and expertise are beyond reproach and he, too, possesses that rare gift of being able to communicate complex ideas to those who are not members of the Climatologists Guild.
I notice on Weather Underground that Cancun has set new record low temperatures for the last 5 days.
There’s a very good summary of Viscount Monckton here:
http://globalwarmingsuperheroes.com/bad-guy-of-the-week/christopher-monckton-3rd-viscount-monckton-of-brenchley/
GG
For those folks who want to DUMP on “Lord Monckton” I can only say, “Wright Brothers, Edison, and Michael Farady….”
Let’s see: Developers of the airplane, Electric Light, Phonograph, Motion Picture Camera, Telephone (Yes, I said that…read about it, Edison made the first PRACTICAL microphone and earpiece), Capacitor, Improved Voltaic Pile, and 3000 pages of Notes on Electro-Magnetism (Faraday) which formed the basis for Maxwell’s 1861, “On Faraday’s Lines of Force”…where the Maxwell Equations are found.
WHAT’S SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THESE FELLOWS:
Wright Brothers: 8th grade education.
Edison: Home Schooled
Faraday: No FORMAL Education (self taught).
Where would we be without them?
Therefore, in consideration of the “content of his arguement” rather than the content of his “Cirriculum Vita”, I give Lord M. much respect.
Oh, last, just remember Louis Pastuer’s overall grade at the “Institute de’ Ploytechnic”, which was MEDIOCRE. Next time you get a chance to be innoculated against some dread disease, you may just want to turn it down as the primary inventor of the concept of bio-innoculation, really didn’t have strong “academic” credentials.
DailyKOS is doing a hit piece on Monckton yesterday: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/11/26/923417/-Climate-scientist-takes-on-AM-radio-host-and-wins!
“Until a few months ago, nobody ever heard of John Abraham, an engineering professor at St. Thomas University in St. Paul. Maybe you’ve never heard of him. But he’s shaping up to be perhaps the biggest hero of the fight against global warming, evah.”
Commentators on Fark are eating it up, but they’re a young crowd and I think the global warming issue to them is really a replay of Gore vs Bush and they’re just sticking to their side.
[Note: Until Abraham comes down out of his Ivory Tower and debates Monckton, he forfeits any credibility.]
Just a view:
Climate science has moved from purely ‘science discourse’ into the political and lately into fiscal arena. Inevitable it has attained, like it or not, most of the attributes of a classic ‘ideology confrontation’.
As in any political struggle there are true believers on both sides, honest interlocutors, but there are also ‘refuseniks’ as well as ‘agent provocateurs’ (sometimes difficult to tell apart), short term profiteers, the armchair generals (I am one of these), and finally, as in any revolution, the most dangerous ‘uninformed rabble’, who do not care for fancy phraseology, formulae or feedback sensitivity, they care just for what they see as the phoney excuse for extra taxation burden. Few honourable scientists may find the road to Damascus uninviting and full of potholes , while the ‘uninformed rabble’ is boarding the Boston train.
hunter says:
November 27, 2010 at 11:23 am
At least Monckton has the wherewith-all to look them straight in the eye and call bullshit. Then proceed to tell them why it is bullshit. CAGW proponents still seem to have a foothold. IMHO, skeptics have been too nice. Now it is time to not be nice. Post-normal science be damned.
GaiaGirl is handing out free kool-aid at her kool-aid stand.