I wonder if the “Climate Science Rapid Response Team” is going?
From PR Newswire Available for Radio and All Media
CANCUN, Mexico, Nov. 24, 2010 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — CFACT, the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, will feature two prominent experts on climate science and policy at COP 16, the UN conference on climate change which convenes next week in Cancun.
Lord Christopher Monckton will be in Cancun December 1 – 10.
Dr. Roy Spencer will be in Cancun December 6 – 10.
Both will be available (allowing for travel) before and after Cancun.
Last year COP 15 in Copenhagen ended without serious progress on a successor treaty to the Kyoto protocol. A series of meetings in Germany and China were likewise inconclusive. The UNFCCC is under severe pressure to jump start the treaty process in Mexico, however, public doubts about climate science and policy coupled with an inability of developed and developing nations to find common ground leave the UNFCCC with a daunting task ahead.
With billions at stake for carbon traders (whose markets expire with the Kyoto protocol), warming science and policy campaigners, developing nations and subsidized industries in Cancun, the push for a new treaty will be fierce. The treaty proposals being circulated impose crippling costs and regulations that will choke off economic recovery while doing nothing to alter the climate. CFACT, Dr. Spencer and Lord Monckton will open minds and effectively challenge a scientific “consensus” that never was, detail global warming’s scope, causes and effects, separate smart energy strategies from waste and skewer the global warming lobby’s propaganda and abusive tactics.
Dr. Roy W. Spencer is a Principal Research Scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. He was formerly a Senior Scientist for Climate Studies at NASA. He is co-developer of the original satellite method for precise monitoring of global temperatures from Earth-orbiting satellites. He has provided congressional testimony several times on the subject of global warming. He recently wrote, The Great Global Warming Blunder: How Mother Nature Fooled the World’s Top Climate Scientist. In 2008 he wrote The New York Times bestseller, Climate Confusion.
Lord Christopher Monckton, Third Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, has been a leader of CFACT’s delegations to numerous UN summits. He has held positions with the British press and in government, as a press officer at the Conservative Central Office and as Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher’s policy advisor. Monckton advised Thatcher on technical issues such as warship hydrodynamics, psephological modeling; embryological research, hydrogeology, public-service investment analysis, public welfare modeling, and epidemiological analysis. He is author of a detailed analysis and summary of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Changes’ Fourth Assessment Report.
SOURCE Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow
h/t to R. de Haan
Cancun 10 day forecast has showers and mild temperatures
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For Immediate Release
30th November 2010Boycott the Cancun Climate Circus
Statement by Viv Forbes, Chairman, the Carbon Sense Coalition
The Carbon Sense Coalition today called on all Australian governments to boycott the Cancun Climate Change Circus.
The Chairman of “Carbon Sense”, Mr Viv Forbes, said “we do not want a repeat of the Copenhagen obscenity when 45,000 people gathered to discuss how to reduce things like air travel and conspicuous consumption”.
Forbes said there is no reason for Australia to attend.
“This conference is no longer about climate – it is about international redistribution of wealth and industry from the west to the rest of the world. Australia is part of the spoils they hope to redistribute.
“There is zero chance of global agreement on emissions trading schemes or more carbon taxes. The political landscape and public opinion in the USA has turned dramatically sceptical of the increasingly shrill predictions from the desperate alarmists. Moreover, trading in carbon credits in Chicago has collapsed and even Al Gore is recanting on ethanol. Without US participation, nothing will be agreed globally.
“In addition, for over a decade, the whimsical world climate has mocked the feverish forecasts of the IPCC. Global Warming looks like becoming Global Cooling (still caused by burning coal of course). Prudently they chose tropical Mexico for this conference or the world media would be treated again to the amusing spectacle of warmists shivering in another bitter northern winter of “unseasonal” snow and blizzards.
“So they are plotting a new scheme – enforced global rationing of carbon emissions on a per capita basis. This means transfer of Australian wealth, industry and jobs to India, China and Africa for decades to come. And to bypass parliaments and the suspicious electorate, this will be attempted via “International Agreements”.
“Australia should send no more than one observer to Cancun, and that person should have no power to agree to anything. In particular there should be no promises to extend the failed but costly Kyoto Accord, and no transfer of authority to any new international body.
“A boycott makes more sense than sending jumbo jets of people to beach resorts in Mexico to talk about reducing that sort of activity.”
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Viv Forbes
Chairman, The Carbon Sense Coalition
Rosevale, Qld, Australia
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For those interested in more info see:
IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer clarifies matters:
“The climate summit in Cancun at the end of the month is not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War … one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy.”
http://thegwpf.org/ipcc-news/1877-ipcc-official-climate-policy-is-redistributing-the-worlds-wealth.html
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/its_all_about_money/
Oops, improve on my english expression
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Cancun will fail miserably and sadly, science will have little to do with it.
Democracies are still reeling from the near collapse of banking systems world wide and the recovery is fragile as can be. Politicians from these countries think based on the only time horizon that is meaningful for them, the next election. They know that the number one reason for getting thrown out of office is a weak economy. They don’t give sh*t about the grandchildren, or the children, they just want votes in 4 years or less. If the economy was roaring along like a runaway freight train, maybe some token or even real gestures.
As for totalitarian states, they are only there with their hands out. The only reason the believe in global warming is because they think they get money for it. If the solution had nothing in it for Mugabe, he wouldn’t even show up. As long as his personal life style doesn’t change, he really doesn’t give a cr*p what happens to everyone else.
Russia, China, India are going to do what they are already doing, industrialize. OPEC will keep selling just as much oil as anyone wants to buy. And if the UN cannot stop rinky dink nations like North Korea and Iran from building nuclear bombs, exactly how are they going to stop Canadians from buying SUV’s?
Varying governments will pay lip service and sign something meaningless. The exception perhaps might be ideologues like Obama who, frankly believe in some pretty strange things despite the real world saying NOT! Obama was very certain that if he could only be nice enough to Iran, they would stop spitting in his face, that a single speech to the Arab world would spark a new era of trust and reconciliation, that he could hit the “reset” button with Russia, and that if he just apologized enought to Europe he’s get at least one extra soldier out of them to help out in Afghanistan and that he is black.
On this last matter I allow that he may be half right. But no one is throwing away their seat in office or doing squat for their peasants grandchildren with the world economy still teatering. Cancun will fail, and science fact will have little to do with it.
Anthony – how come you don’t step in when ad hom attacks like this are made (as you do when somebopdy called Monckton a circus act)?
“Sir John Houghton, Michael Mann, Keith Briffa, Gavin Schmidt, Jim Hansen, Phil Jones, Kevin Trenberth and all that dismal cabal of the third rate, the barmy and the dishonest, ”
Yes Al Gore and Monckton are very similar – both mouthpieces who distort if not actually misrepresent the science. Gore is bad and so is Monckton. Having a nutter on ones ‘side’ does nobody any credit.
David Ball – this site is not quite as open as you seem to believe. I have had a number of postings never appear. These are never ad homs or abusive but do question some of the skeptic beliefs frequently posted here
I would hope that this post is allowed forward to prove me wrong (but I won’t be suprised if it doesn’t appear).
[Reply: WUWT moderators approve all posts that do not violate site Policy. ~dbs, mod.]
Well I just had a ‘no show’ on the hypocrisy thread. Possibly because it pointed out that this blog is not immune from charges of hypocrisy.
[NOTE: Or possibly because it had some trigger words and fell into the SPAM filter. Now recovered. Unfortunately, all your diversions don’t address the real issue of publishing things selectively at NYT, they are simply things you don’t like. ~mod]
“”””” Huth says:
November 27, 2010 at 12:39 pm
You don’t have to agree with Monckton about everything but he does talk sense on climate issues. He talks rubbish on some other things. Being right about one thing doesn’t make you right about everything so I find all that blurb about him annoying. Also, why do people keep mentioining his viscountness? That is relevant to what exactly? “””””
Well it has a similar degree of relevence to that of all the folks here who call themselves Dr. or PhD, or ordinary public servants who want people to call them Senator. It helps sort out who is whom. Dr Laura has a PhD; so are you going to take her as an authority on climate. My name is George E. Smith; but I am forced to add to that, that I AM NOT the 2009 Nobel Physics Prize winner; he is somebody else. I don’t know much about climate; and it’s an even bet that my Nobellist namesake doesn’t either. It’s for sure that Dr Steven Chu; who is both a PhD, and a Nobel Physics Prize winner, also doesn’t know much about climate; but he is the current Energy Secretary of the USA; so people take notice of what he says.
If it is your habit to simply address others as “hey you”, then I can see why it irks you if people mention Lord Monckton’s formal title; but there’s no need to choke on it.
{emmaliza says: November 28, 2010 at 7:17 am
We should all be thankful for brave souls like Spencer and Monckton.]
I whole heartedly agree, when many have fallen (David Kelly among many others) due to their divulging of information, these and Alex Jones (with his flamboyant nature!) David Icke etc. too are a testament to convictions which are not based on hearsay.
This Cancun meeting is as big as the Copenhagen one in which many bad decisions were made. Yet it will possibly be overshadowed in the media by the growing tensions in the Korea region.
Go Lord Monckton and give them a hiding! And a big (very big) thankyou, for your contribution to our freedom.
I am waiting for the Dynamic Duo to be dis-invited, bumped, detained, or suddenly subject to scheduling conflicts. Didn’t they play that with CM last time, dis-inviting him when he was already on the plane on the way there?
It is funny that they picked Cancun. I can hear the siting committee meeting now.. ” And no sites north of 30ºN! NO SNOW this time!”
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/02/shiver-global-warming-protest-frozen-massive-snowfall/
http://mrsneutronsgarage.wordpress.com/2010/11/27/global-warming-skeptic-speaks-at-liberty-university/
What a show THAT was!