Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it — and stop there; lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again — and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one any more.
—Pudd’nhead Wilson’s New Calendar
I was reminded of this Mark Twain quote by a recent paper called “Acute sun damage and photoprotective responses in whales” published in the Proceedings of the Royal Society B (hereinafter “Sunburnt Whales”). Their Abstract reads in part:
We conducted photographic and histological surveys of three seasonally sympatric whale species to investigate sunburn and photoprotection. We find that lesions commonly associated with acute severe sun damage in humans are widespread and that individuals with fewer melanocytes have more lesions and less apoptotic cells. This suggests that the pathways used to limit and resolve UVR-induced damage in humans are shared by whales and that darker pigmentation is advantageous to them.
Figure 1. A whale working on suntanning its stomach
So what does Pudd’nhead Wilson have to do with sunburnt whales?
Unfortunately, the authors of Sunburnt Whales did not stop with learning the wisdom in the experience. They went on to tell us how the whales are being threatened by the upcoming Thermageddon™:
Taken together, our results show that whales exhibit lesions typical of acute UVR exposure, suggesting that the thinning ozone layer poses a significant and rising threat to the health of our oceans’ whales. Considering that UVR is expected [by climate models] to increase 4 per cent in the tropics and up to 20 per cent in the poles, more studies are needed to fully understand the consequences of UVR-induced damage and the evolutionary significance of cetacean pigmentation.
OK, what’s their evidence for that? Well, they measured UV-induced blisters and a corresponding measure of UV exposure called “cytoplasmic vacuolation” in a small number of whales in 2007, 2008, and 2009. Both measures increased over the period, although the changes were statistically insignificant for cytoplasmic vacuolation.
For the blisters, in 2007, 12% of the whales had blisters (N, the number of whales measured, was 48). In 2008, 28% had blisters (N=28). In 2009, 68% had blisters (N=22). How do they explain that?
Despite the short time frame, our results would suggest that, as predicted, heightened exposure to UVR secondary to global and regional ozone depletion is leading to more skin damage in whales.
Say what? They’re claiming that the large two-year changes in whale skin health was caused by increased UV … but unfortunately, there’s a huge, glaring problem with their claim. According to NASA:
UV Exposure Has Increased Over the Last 30 Years, but Stabilized Since the Mid-1990s
There has been no increase in the UV radiation in the last fifteen years … but the authors of Sunburnt Whales claim that increased UV has caused whale blisters to quintuple (five times as many) in two short years.
Now I’m sorry, but I simply don’t believe that claim. I can believe that whales have more blisters. But I don’t believe that UV radiation, which has not changed in the last 15 years, has caused whale blisters to suddenly increase five-fold in two years.
They claim that this blister increase is related to the fact that these whales spend time in Baja California, where tropical UV levels are high. But UV levels have changed less in the Tropics than elsewhere. NASA (op. cit.) says about the post-1979 increase:
The high latitudes of the southern hemisphere have seen ultraviolet exposure increase by as much as a quarter. The low latitudes have seen little increase, and the mid-and-high latitudes of the northern hemisphere have seen about a five percent increase.
The low latitudes, where Baja California is located, have seen “little increase” in general, and even less in the last 15 years. So no, I don’t think UV increases are harming the whales, because for the last 15 years UV hasn’t increased. And in Baja California, even the increase since 1979 is on the order of only 5% or less.
Judith Curry keeps on about how we need to repair the trust between the public and climate scientists, and I agree with her. However, she thinks the scientists are not explaining things well, that it is a communications problem.
I say the problem has nothing to do with communication. The problem is bogus climate science being shovelled in our direction by the Royal Society and the other “scientific” journals. Until this kind of bovine waste-product stops being shipped in containers saying “100% Peer Reviewed Climate Science Inside”, people are not going to believe anything a climate scientist says, even though it may, through some unusual combination of misunderstandings and coincidences, actually be true. How does this kind of clearly nonsensical junk ever, ever get through peer review?
Oh, yeah, one final note. Seems to me if you want to see if the UV exposure is increasing the blisters on whales, how about measure some whales year after year and see if the blisters are increasing? Seems like a bozo move, simple, give you good data to confirm or deny the hypothesis.
Which is probably why the authors of Sunburnt Whales were very careful not to do that. They report:
In each season recaptured individuals were excluded from the analyses, the first capture being the one included.
Yeah, that’s the way to tell whether blisters are increasing, throw out valid data … not. Where is the headslap icon when I need it?
PS – I’m back in the Solomon Islands for a week, where even the electrons move slowly, so my replies may be delayed … have patience.
PPS – After writing this but before posting it, I discovered that the Proceedings of the Royal Society B have a letter responding to the study, which says in part:
This article is quite interesting in that the exposure of whales to UV and their response in terms of skin cancer lesions suggests the need to worry about the possible future effects of climate change on wildlife. This suggests that any non-fur protected or pigment protected species is at risk. The risk is higher at the equator where the protective ozone layer is naturally less than at mid and high latitudes.
However, the attribution of the observations to existing changes in UVR is misleading at best. In the equatorial regions, there have been no statistically significant changes in UVR [Herman, 2010 in JGR]. The significant changes start as small increases at mid latitudes, which only become medically significant at high latitudes. Unless I missed it, the article does not mention cancer lesion measurements from the past as an indicator that there has been any change in the whale’s health over time. The lack of cause and effect studies makes the statements about ozone change in this article “alarmist”. There are enough real problems with climate change and chlorine induced ozone change without suggesting unproven and unlikely problems. …
What he said …
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Personally I think these scientists are onto something. But they’re going to need long term funding, a boat and cruise around the tropics checking out whales for a lot longer before we all understand what it is…
I say the problem has nothing to do with communication. The problem is bogus
climatescience being shovelled in our direction…FTFY. Science nowadays (perhaps it was always so) is definitely following the ‘85% of everything is rubbish’ rule.
They have cherry-picked the “convenient” whales?
In any event, the passage “…..more studies are needed to fully understand the consequences of UVR-induced damage and ….” must be the crux.
Obviously the blisters are cause by anthropogenic UVR, not the kind that we grew up with. And the predicted result is CUVR blistering. I’m going to need a research grant to study AUVR affects on non-feathered surface features of emperor penguins as a consequence of the AOH (anthropogenic ozone hole).
I may add a request to study basking sharks – clearly any shark with time to burn as basking sharks have is at risk.
My question is whether or not the non-science of AGW has plumbed new depths with this report?
It grieves me severely as one who trained as a scientist and who works in a technical field where I have to produce meaningful results to have this amount of manure shoveled out and passed off as meaningful.
Yea Gods, is this the best they have ?
If so it is Game, set and Match. TG
Aaargh they be lieing swabbies.
I see lots of whales on me mermink hunting adventures. Me and Nemo reckon they got their heads up their bilge pumps. The last one with any common sense in the Royal Society was ol Charlie Darwin, famous for saying, “I don’t think that big tub of hot water is fer bathing Cookie, I am gonna sit this exploring adventure out”. That man had the flair for causing for real debate.
Probably the next great green scam, taxpayer subsidised sun tan lotion for cetaceans. It should be easy to check, we got whale tourism on every continent.
We even got a great big white humpie be regular as clock work, runs down the east of Van Diemens Land. So if one is gonna have increased sun burn she be the one. (Her name be Migalloo.
I’ll phone Bindi’s mum, see if she can get the SS Irwin, to check it out. Always pays to have a squizz. We’ll get back to the Royal society boof head boffins in say four years.
Typical research BS. “We need to do more research”.
Perhaps we need less researchers, not more.
>Calling All Geoengineers!!!
We need to put out an RFP (request for proposals) to explore the building of machines to use carbon sequestration technology and chemistry to convert CO2 into SPF 50 sunscreen. We need a device that could continuously apply this sunscreen as a nanodeposited film on the sea surface.
Idea: (and any idea, of course, should be on the table, No?) We could explore retrofitting the seagoing previously designed aerosol monster ships, originally intended to produce clouds to cool the earth, but having failed in concept miserably to do so, to spray the converted sunscreen agent, while the “climatologists” cruise the southern seas.
NEXT: Save the whale retinas! Ray-Ban Cetacean sunglasses.
Well, first, whales don’t stay put so one would need to know whether or not whales and UV radiation are geographically correlated.
But another thought: Diet can affect an animal’s skin sensitivity so it may be that the whales with the higher incidence of problems have had a diet high in a problem food. The point is – don’t blame one thing until you have thought of other possibilities and eliminated them.
My analogy is with horses and clover. A common clover found in pasture seed mixes is called “Alsike” but usually as a smaller percentage. Under stress Alsike responds better and a couple of years of poor weather for clovers can result in a pasture having almost all Alsike clover. “. . . horses with alsike poisoning develop severe photosensitivity secondary to biliary (pertaining to the bile and/or bile ducts) disease.”
http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=302969
There is a Richard Feynman video where he talks about the issue of a scientist eliminating other possibilities for the issue being studied. If I can come up with one, then I don’t think these folks did their job.
Royal Society;
The risk is higher at the equator where the protective ozone layer is naturally less than at mid and high latitudes.>>
Huh? When did they move the ozone holes from the high latitudes to the equator? Did they bring the poles with them? What’s a pole without a hole look like? And what did they fill the holes with? Smoke perhaps? Yes that makes sense, they’re blowing smoke up our ozone holes.
Here ya go Willis, ask and ye shall receive (well, sometimes!). Since it’s for the whales, animal kingdom representatives seemed appropriate….
What a bunch of self-serving bollocks. “More research is needed”- and by whom, and funded by whom, one wonders. Or not.
I’m sure that LED-based lighting special interests are behind this study. They want to convince people that fluorescent light bulbs are the anthropogenic UVR, and by switching to all-LED light sources we will save the wales.
Did the scientists take a look at how many cloud-free days had occurred over the area of ocean where the whales were? A correctly timed stretch of cloudy weather in 2007 and sunny weather in 2009 could easily explain the observations.
Was this research funded by pharmaceuticals that produce sunscreen lotion. It’s a new big market. Application could be an issue.
Ask and ye shall receive (except that time…. sorry, lemme try again, hopefully this works)
First from the eminently appropriate representative for this situation
Then we havethe Mouse & Milk Brigade
Followed by anEpic fail.
When not even a bear of a day can excuse it….
Even this guy knows better.
Then theKing weighs in on the situation.
Last but not least & just because it seemed appropriate somehow, the Classic Double Facepalm
“Until this kind of bovine waste-product stops being shipped in containers ”
Not quite the way I would express it, but I concur with the sentiment.
Mark Twain could not have put that observation better, Willis.
Yeh, the first time I saw that study it got me laughing. I guess they don’t understand that every time a study like this gets released, they’re simply fueling the fires of disgust and now even ridicule. Is it really that easy to be a “scientist”? And is the scientific community really going to continue to allow people such as the Sunburnt Whales team be representative of them? Really? It is so pathetic that I can’t work up to anger anymore. I almost pity them. Obviously, there is something pathological at work here. Its like two powerful people are making bets as to how many ludicrous assertions can be placed in various studies and pass some sort of review. About the only thing left to say is put this on the list too!
Instead of calling it junk science I think junket science fits better.
Was this peer reviewed?
If so it says a lot about the quality of the author’s peers.
ZZZ says:
November 12, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Far as I can tell, they didn’t investigate a single alternate hypothesis … climate science at its finest.
Even the dolphins (bottle-nosed) are getting sunburned..
http://scienceblogs.com/zooillogix/2007/09/rare_pink_dolphin_pictures.php
It seems like there have been 3-5 of these sterling works of “science” every week for months now. Almost all heralded by PR puff pieces, which greatly amp up the already exaggerated alarmism in the studies themselves, and all exhibiting a similar level of scientific excellence, i.e. abysmal. And yet I also find myself bombarded by almost daily public pronouncements, from politicians with room temperature IQs, moronic Hollywood celebutards, and mouthbreather denizens of the blogosphere, declaring that, if I refuse to accept that these most excellent “scientists” have achieved a “consensus” judgement that completely solves the enduring enigma of the planet’s climate, I must be a knuckle-dragging ignoramus and evil Earth destroying spawn of Satan whose only just reward should be a quick and maximally bloody death.
Admittedly I am not now, nor have I ever been a practicing scientist, but I am old enough to have been educated when critical thinking was still the backbone of the curriculum. Having now spent decades following reference links that were supposed to provide convincing evidence of impending climatic doom and finding instead glaringly obvious holes in the underlying logic, flaws in experimental design and execution, statistical manipulations, and wild leaps beyond the evidence collected, my initial insecurity in challenging supposedly superior specialist expertise has been replaced by a firm conviction that anyone willing to declare themselves convinced of any position relative to the climate, other than “we don’t know”, is displaying a level of epistemological discernment on a par with those on Bernie Madoff’s client list.
Rant off.
davidmhoffer says:
November 12, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Although there is very little ozone at the South Pole (the ozone hole), the Royal Society is talking about the risk of sunburn or other damage to human skin from UV. While that is possible at the South Pole, if you take off your clothes there you’ll likely not die first from excess UV …