Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
James Hansen and others say that we owe it to our Grandchildren to get this climate question right. Hansen says “Grandchildren” with a capital G when he speaks of them so I will continue the practice. I mean, for PR purposes, Grandchildren with a capital letter outrank even Puppies with a capital letter, and I can roll with that.
In any case Hansen got me to thinking about the world of 2050. Many, likely even most people reading this in 2010 will have Grandchildren in 2050. Heck, I might have some myself. So I started to consider the world we will leave our Grandchildren in 2050.
In a recent post here on WUWT, Thomas Fuller floated a proposal that we adopt a couple of degrees as the expected temperature rise over the century. He says in the comments to his thread that
I think we owe it to the people of the world to give them an idea of how much warming they can expect, so they can plan their buildings, businesses, roads and lives. They matter. They don’t care how much of it is due to CO2 or how much is rebound from a LIA due to forcings we don’t understand. They don’t. They probably shouldn’t.
We have temperature rises that we can almost trust from 1958 that show a trend of about 2 degrees for this century if things go on.
To start with, I don’t think we owe people anything more than the scientific truth as we understand it. And if we don’t understand it, as in the case of what the climate may be like over the rest of this century, we definitely owe it to the people to simply say “We don’t know”. Those three little words, so hard to say … so no, we don’t owe people a number if we don’t have one.
Next, predicting the future by extending a linear “trend” is a bad idea, because it puts a totally false air of accuracy and scientific reliability on something that we haven’t much of a clue about, except we’re very sure it’s not linear … As Mark Twain famously wrote of that kind of extrapolation:
In the space of one hundred and seventy-six years the Lower Mississippi has shortened itself two hundred and forty-two miles. That is an average of a trifle over one mile and a third per year. Therefore, any calm person, who is not blind or idiotic, can see that in the Old Oolitic Silurian Period, just a million years ago next November, the Lower Mississippi River was upwards of one million three hundred thousand miles long, and stuck out over the Gulf of Mexico like a fishing-rod.
And by the same token any person can see that seven hundred and forty-two years from now the Lower Mississippi will be only a mile and three-quarters long, and Cairo and New Orleans will have joined their streets together, and be plodding comfortably along under a single mayor and a mutual board of aldermen. There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.
So extending linear trends is not a good plan, particularly in our current state of knowledge of the climate. The planet may be warmer in fifty years, or it may be cooler in fifty years, we don’t know.
But let’s set all of those difficulties aside. Here’s Fuller’s proposal graphically, using HadCRUT data. (As an aside, the trend 1958-2010 in the HadCRUT data is actually 1.3° per century, not 2°/century as Fuller states. So his figures are an exaggeration of the historical trend.)
Figure 1. A grapical representation of Thomas Fullers proposal that we decree that expected warming will be 2° over the 21st century. Image Source
However, Fuller’s proposal along with a comment from Michael Tobin got me to thinking. How about that two degrees per century, what if it actually happens? That two degrees has always been the big scare number, the tipping point, the temperature rise that would lead to the dread Thermageddon, the temperature where we fall into planetary immolation. So I got to pondering James Hansen’s statement about the Grandchildren, and also Fullers postulation of a historically unlikely 2°warming this century. Two degrees per century is eight-tenths of a degree by 2050, so my questions were:
What would I do differently if I knew for a fact that my Grandchildren would be eight-tenths of a degree warmer in 2050? Or alternatively, how would I feel if I knew for a fact that I had sentenced my as-yet-unborn Grandchildren in 2050 to live in a world that was eight-tenths of a degree warmer?
And you know, I couldn’t think of one single thing about buildings, or businesses, or roads, or lives, that I’d do differently for eight tenths of a degree by 2050. Not one thing. Even if I knew it was coming, I don’t know what that slight warming will do, so what would I do to get my Grandchildren and Puppies and business and bridges ready for it? How would I know what to do to prepare my buildings and roads and life for eight tenths of a degree of warming?
There might be some adverse outcomes from that eight tenths of a degree of temperature rise threatening my Grandchildren in 2050, but neither I nor anyone else knows what those outcomes might be. We’ll assuredly get an extra flood over here, and one less flood over there, it’s very likely to be drier somewhere and wetter somewhere else, in other words, the climate will do what climate has done since forever — change.
But anyone who says they can predict exactly where the floods and droughts might be in that unknown climate future is blowing smoke. And I don’t know if we could even tell if the average temperature changed by eight-tenths of a degree. Here’s why:
Let’s take a real look at what that means, eight-tenths of a degree. Here is the record for the GHCN climate station nearest to me these days, Santa Rosa, California.
Figure 2. GISS Unadjusted and Adjusted Temperature records, Santa Rosa, CA. Adjusted temperature is shown in transparent red, to show the Unadjusted underneath (blue). Bottom panel shows the amount of the adjustment.
Santa Rosa has pretty good record, mostly complete from 1902 to the present. Now, there are a number of issues with the GISS adjustments to this station. Before adjustment there is a slight cooling, and after adjustment that has become a slight warming. Who knew that the urban heat island might work in reverse? In addition, the adjustment in recent years is very rapid. Seems counterintuitive.
However, none of the details of the adjustment is my issue today. Today, I want to highlight the fact that the adjustment in the Santa Rosa record is about a degree in a century. So the uncertainty in the historical record is at the very least about a degree. And this is a good record.
Now, which one is right, the adjusted or the unajusted temperature? Unfortunately, there’s no way to tell. Why? Because an adjustment of a degree in a century is lost in the noise. We often see winters and summers that are three or four degrees warmer or colder than the preceding year or two. We see warm decades and cool decades. A degree is simply not enough change to notice. The oldest men and women living in Santa Rosa couldn’t tell us whether average temperatures were a degree warmer on average when they were kids than they are now. And our thermometers can’t do any better. We simply don’t know whether the ~ 1°C adjustment to the Santa Rosa record is valid or not.
My point is that the adjustment is almost a full degree. This is slightly larger than the predicted temperature rise in the scary stories about 2050 and the Grandchildren and the Puppies. And since the adjustment of nearly 1°C in Santa Rosa is so small that we can’t determine if the adjustment is correct, why should I be concerned about eight-tenths of a degree in 2050? We can’t even measure temperature to that accuracy in a site with good historical records, and I should worry about that unmeasurable change?? I don’t think so.
So no, I’m sorry. I refuse to be scared, even by Fuller’s exaggeration of a linear extrapolation of a cherry-picked trend. I have no problem if my Grandchildren have to face a world in 2050 that is eight-tenths of a degree warmer than it is now, more power to them. Without alarmist scientists armed with megaphones and performance-enhancing mathematics, how would we even know if it were eight-tenths of a degree warmer in Santa Rosa in 2050? Our scientists can’t decide if there is a 1° change in the Santa Rosa record, and yet we’re supposed to fear a smaller change by 2050? I think not.
And what catastrophes will eight tenths of a degree bring? We see decadal swings in the Santa Rosa record that are much greater than that, and there are no ill effects. Yes, I know there’s hosts of scientists out there telling me that awful things will happen from Thomas Fullers stipulated warming, but here is my question:
First, let’s assume that the AGW folks are correct, and that global warming will lead to global catastrophes of a variety of types, all the biblical plagues plus a host more. Increasing temperatures is supposed to lead to more extreme weather and terrible outcomes, a perfect storm of hundreds of bad effects in what I have termed “Thermageddon”.
Next, let’s note that the globe has been warming, in fits and starts but generally warming, since the Little Ice Age. Estimates of the amount of the warming are on the order of one and a half to two degrees C.
And finally, note that since 1958 (to use Fuller’s start point) we have had much faster warming for half a century.
So my questions are … where are all of the catastrophes from that couple of degrees of warming since the Little Ice Age, and from the half century fast warming since 1958? I mean, James Hansen would excoriate the Elizabethans because they bequeathed not only their Grandchildren, but their great-great Grandchildren, a warmer world. I don’t know how the Elizabethans slept at night, after wishing a degree or more of warming on their poor innocent Grandchildren. And puppies. But where are the catastrophes from the couple of degrees of slow warming since the 1600s?
Seriously, people keep saying that the problem with the climate is that we can’t do laboratory experiments. But for the past three centuries we have two excellent natural experiments. In the first we saw warming century after century, and yet we didn’t experience Thermageddon. Where are the catastrophes?
Then in the second natural experiment we have the much faster warming Fuller talked about since 1958, as shown in Figure 1. During that time the Pacific atolls have gotten bigger, and Bangladesh has more hectares of land. People are better fed than at any time in history. There has been no increase in extreme weather events. Where are the catastrophes resulting from those two natural experiments in slow and fast warming?
So no, I don’t worry about eight tenths of a degree warming by 2050. I sleep content, knowing that my Grandchildren might actually get to the point where they could measure eight tenths of a degree of warming and have a scientific reason to agree on the size of the adjustments … I figure they’ll be able to do it, they’ll be smarter and richer and more powerful than we are, with undreamed of technologies. Heck, they may find out that it actually did warm by eight-tenths of a degree between now and 2050. And by then they may actually have found out whether or not CO2 is the main planetary temperature control knob. And likely they will have a variety of other energy sources at that time.
But regarding the eight tenths of a degree of warming by 2050, I just don’t see what catastrophes that will cause in the real world for my Grandchildren. It certainly hasn’t caused catastrophes up until now.
But then people say, never mind the Grandchildren, what about the other species? Won’t their ranges change?
I’m at about Latitude 38 North. The global average temperature change as one goes north or south at that latitude is about one degree per hundred miles.
So under the Thomas Fuller 2°C assumption, the average isotherms will move 80 miles north by 2050. Again, this is lost in the noise. These kinds of changes have been happening in the climate since forever. The world generally doesn’t even notice. Eight tenths of a degree is just too small, it is dwarfed by the daily, monthly, annual, and decadal temperature swings.
Oh, people will say, but the warming in this case will be much faster than in the past, that’s where the problem will come in. But those people forget that all life adapts very quickly. It has to because the temperature changes so much and so quickly. When the temperature often changes by three degrees from one year to the next, either up or down, plants and animals must (and can) adapt to that change in a single year. The idea that plants and animals can’t adapt to eight tenths of a degree by 2050 doesn’t make sense, when they can easily adapt to a three degree swing up or down in a single year. And we have seen that in the rapid warming since 1958 that Fuller highlighted, there haven’t been any catastrophes, either among humans, animals, or plants. So the “fast warming causes catastrophes” claim doesn’t work either.
Final Conclusion? I’m sorry to be so contrary, friends, but I just don’t see that even Thomas Fuller’s exaggerated (by historical standards) 2° per century warming will bring any kind of problems or catastrophes. The IPCC’s greatest projected warming is said to occur in the extra-tropics, in the winter, at night.
And at the end of the day, you can call me a callow, unfeeling neo-Elizabethan brute willing to sentence his Grandchildren to a warmer world, but I’m not going to lose sleep over having less frigid December midnights in Helsinki Finland, or over Thomas Fuller’s possible (not guaranteed but only possible) eight tenths of a degree of warming by 2050. Warming has not caused catastrophes in the past, and if future warming does happen, there is no reason to expect catastrophes from that either.
I know mine is a minority view. But to change my mind, you’ll have to show me that warming in the past has caused catastrophes and huge problems. Until then, I’m not going to believe that warming in the future will cause catastrophes and huge problems, especially warming that we can barely measure.
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We need to break the connection between the AGW and Energy conservation. I’m all for conserving energy, but not for the sake of some Druidic theory. I want improvement to conserve resources and reduce prices.
I’m sorry Willis but you have missed the real danger of a 0.8 increase by 2050, one that will have very serious impacts on “our” grandchildren.
If we truly do see a 0.8 increase by 2050, Global Warming alarmist will not stop and very likely will increase their doomongering. That is a terrible thing that our children shouldn’t have to deal with.
Nothing we can do about it of course, but won’t we please think of the grandchildren’s puppies.
I’m absolutely sure, 100% positive, without-a-doubt certain, that things on this planet are going to get warmer and colder in the long run and that the ONLY solution is to adjust and evolve –well, if the past is any indicator of what the future holds in store, I am, I am, I am. I am also positive that Mr. Willis Eschenbach is absolutely giving the VERY BEST advice on how to deal with this little problem right here and now and everyone with half a brain cell in their head should listen to him.
See the following link –
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8615/allpaleotemp.png
Willis, thank you and Mark Twain for your wit and wisdom. God bless you both.
Oh, I forgot…. “There is no God, and Karl Marx is his Prophet.”
thomaswfuller says:
October 22, 2010 at 8:19 am
“…[W]e owe it to people to tell them the truth, no matter what it is.”
There is a wide divergence of opinion as to what the future climate will be. The IPCC, NASA and others have been claiming for years that there will be substantial, anthropogenic global warming. Skeptics have been claiming for years that there is too much uncertainty regarding paleo climate, surface temperature records and computer models to know what the global temperature will be in the future, but they believe there is no reason to accept the dire predictions of the IPCC et al.
Both of these positions have been, and are still being, aired with regularity. Governments and people all over the world are aware of the dispute and have access to the primary arguments. In other words, the people are already being told the truth.
How is compromising on 2 degrees warming telling the people “the truth, no matter what it is?” Those who genuinely believe that the risk of catastrophic warming are too great should say that they now believe that warming will not be so severe? While skeptics should say that warming is now predictable enough to set a figure of 2 degrees?
If the CAGWers truly believe what they say about the science, they would be immoral to agree to tell people that warming will be limited to 2 degrees. If skeptics do not agree that 2 degrees is accurate, or that expensive remediation/adaptation is necessary right now, it would be immoral for them to tell the public otherwise. I have trouble seeing this as anything other than urging the vast majority to lie about their true understanding of the state of the science and adopt the lukewarmist position.
For the past couple of years I have challenged the students in my climate course in second year Earth Sciences at Carleton University in Ottawa to give me any examples from the history if civilization when warming hurt society or the environment. So far, in two years, not a single verifiable example has been put forward.
I think we need to use the argument of the excellent article above more often, namely, if it warms a bit, especially at night in cold places in the winter, so what? We have no instances of this being bad, let alone it being bad that it warmed in more temperate areas where the vast majority of people and nature are found.
Willis, My thoughts exactly. You envoke commen sense, Which is something i have siad here a few times before mainly because i am no scienctist just an old auto mechanic with common sense. Just the fact temp records such as SantaRosa CA. much less other cities around the USA and globe that has been posted here before, showing exactly what you are saying. much less the fact of how species of all kinds have adapted over the milions and billions of yrs. Those that do not adapt will go extinct. IT happened before and will continue whether we like it or not, The one problem I have with these temp sets that are used is WHAT,WHY,AND FOR are these temps being adjusted, I do not see a reason for it, just plot the temps that are recorded ther is no real reason IMO for doing it unless it is done to prove agw[yes no caps just as it deserves] by the warmist. Can you please explain this to me and if not possible in acomment how about it as post or possibly several to help ezplain the science to us layman? Thanks Gray
I live in the UP of Michigan. Winter temperatures can and do get to -30 F or less and summers almost never above 90 F. So everything here lives in world that can have a 120 F degree temperature variation in 1 year. The percent change for .8 C or 2 C increase is 1.4-3%. How could I notice that when it 30 below. So it changes to -29 below to 93 F. I doubt I would wear less clothing at either end of the range.
What, me worry?
Eight-tenths of a degree warmer might actually have more advantages than disadvantages for our planet. Did the people who lived through the Medieval Warm Period complain as much about the climate as the people living through the Little Ice Age? I doubt it.
The Thermageddon scenario that James Lovelock and Stewart Brand pose is that as we warm the planet with GHGs, we risk the climate falling into a positive feedback loop in which the climate abruptly shifts to some new equilibrium and in the process kills off a huge amount of flora and fauna and ultimately humans.
In particular Brand mentions the melting of permafrost in the Arctic which releases vast amounts of methane, which causes more warming, then the tropics are decimated into dead deserts, resulting in the loss of forests which release more CO2 and causes more heating, which warms the oceans causing the oceans to release more CO2, then more heating, and ultimately the oceans’ clathrates break down which release large amounts of methane, which causes even more heating.
Finally things stabilize around the point of Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum 55 million years ago, when crocodiles swam in the Arctic Sea and snakes grew to the size of school buses in Colombia.
Now you wouldn’t want that to happen…
To be slightly more accurate here are the high and low for where I live.
The highest recorded temperature was 98°F in 1921.
The lowest recorded temperature was -37°F in 1934.
The percentage change is even smaller than I thought. Also please note dates of high and low.
.8 of a degree? Oh my, my son may have to buy a new air conditioner for his house every 24years instead of every 25years.
If everyone in the AGW movement is sooooo worried about pollution and CO2 then why aren’t they lighting a fire under the butts of the scientists that have been messing around with fusion for the last 40 years? Bring some fusion reactors on-line and you stand to shut down every coal-fired power plant and most of the automobile internal combustion engines on the planet…. that might make a little dent in the CO2 use, wouldn’t it???
Brilliant, Willis! Your piece now adorns my PC’s desktop. Whenever I take my dogs by car for a walk in the sand dunes, about 6 miles from my home by the Irish sea, I often notice that temperatures can drop by 2 to 3 degC on the way out and rise again by the same amount on return. But we always survive the trip!
Steven Mosher says:
October 22, 2010 at 9:28 am
Mosh, thanks for your thoughts as always. It took me a couple of days to spot the logical flaw in your argument. I am talking about an estimated future planetary temperature trend. You are talking about a count. Counts are much easier to estimate than the future evolution of climate. For starters, counts are static. Also, they are a present value, rather than an estimate of a future event.
For a count of stars, we have a variety of ways that we can estimate the value. At the most bozo level, we know the number of stars is greater than zero. We have no such hard floor for the temperature trend, it can be less than zero.
Next, of course is to count the visible stars. That immediately gives us a lower bound to the count.
From there we can estimate the number of stars in our galaxy and multiply by the number of galaxies to get an estimate of the total number of stars. We can also estimate a maximum value for the number of stars, through knowing the rate of the expansion of the universe and the average mass of a star.
For estimates of the temperature trend of the planet, on the other hand, we have no such methods to estimate maxima, minima, or exact values. There is no way to put a hard lower bound on the value, as we could with stars. There is a small but non-zero chance of us falling off of a cliff into the onset of the next Ice Age before 2050. There is a larger chance that a solar minimum will depress temperatures for decades. And of course, there’s a good chance that the warming of the last 300 years will continue. So unlike estimating stars, we can’t establish a hard minimum value.
Nor can we measure part of the temperature trend and multiply by the number of parts, as we can with stars. Because stars are a count and not a measurement, we can say (stars per galaxy) multiplied by (galaxies per universe) = stars per universe. We can’t do that with planetary temperature trends. So your comparison with star counting doesn’t stand up.
You say:
OK, that’s fair enough. What do we know about the temperature trend between here and 2050, and what is the likely range?
Yes, I know that the computer models assume (not demonstrate but assume) that the temperature of the planet is controlled by CO2. As a result, the models show the temperature of the planet varying with CO2 concentration. While that is less than shocking, it is also not evidence of future climate states.
We don’t know what will happen with the sun, with cosmic rays, with volcanoes, with black and brown carbon, with winds, with albedo, with aerosols, with plankton, and all the rest. We don’t know what the effect of all of that will be by 2050. So despite your assurance, we truly don’t know much about the number we are looking for.
We can, as you suggest, give a range that we think will include the actual result. But here’s the thing. My estimate of the 95% confidence interval (95%CI) of the temperature trend from now to 2050 would be from -0.5 to +1.0 degrees per century. Here’s the problem with that. As you know, a 95%CI that includes zero is not statistically significantly different from zero. So in this case, knowing the range doesn’t really help us a lot.
And my 95%CI is not any real scientific result. It is a SWAG (a scientific wild-@ur momisugly$$3D guess). There is no mathematical way to establish a real confidence interval on the question, and my SWAG will be different from that of other people who have studied the question. But we can’t really put hard limits on the future climate. So range estimates don’t have much value.
In short, you are right that we don’t “know nothing about the number”. But we truly have very little information about the number in question, the future temperature trend to 2050.
Please note that to obviate these questions, I have assumed Thomas Fuller’s historically unsupported estimate of 2° temperature rise this century. I have shown (I think) that even that exaggerated rate of rise will not affect the Grandchildren. Or the Puppies.
Note also that although I have used Fuller’s estimate in this essay, I think it would be a huge mistake to give people a number like Fuller’s 2° just to have something to plan around. If we don’t know, we don’t know. If we can only give a SWAG and not a scientific result, we should say so explicitly. And if our range of answers includes zero, we should say so and explain what that means.
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Well, I am over 60, and so I could expect to have experienced nearly 1 degree of warming during that time – but can’t say that I’d noticed..
I do remember halcyon days of my childhood of warm sunny days, I remember rain, and I remember snow lasting for days – in fact I remember black snow that as children we were forbidden to play in just one day after it fell in England’s Yorkshire Dales – the soot from pollution had a profound effect back then.
I also remember the dire warnings that we were headed for a new ice-age – but no-one panicked over it – it was just a few cranks
The clean-air act sorted out the black snow, and we began to experience Yorkshire winters as now – and I don’t believe for one second that the winter just gone was that “exceptional” – I have experienced winters just as exceptional. Snowed in for days or weeks at a time – in fact we youths used to head for a remote moorland pub in the hope that we would be snowed in !!!! Regret only once did it happen and we had 3 days to try to drink the place dry – ah halcyon days indeed!
I must have experienced rising tide, but can’t actually perceive how – the sand at Blackpool remains the same. Perhaps Parkgate on the Wirral could explain why the sea is receding?
Have I personally experienced Climate Change – YES – over 20 years ago I moved to New Zealand and to a Climate where I don’t see snow other than on the surrounding hills (OK there has been snow one day in all that time – about Y2K) – I have to travel to high-altitudes to find snow here on the North Island.
From personal experience, I can tell anyone from England that you will get far more from a warming (about 2 degrees in my case) and a far more pleasant year-round weather system despite the wind here in Wellington.
For me, another 2 degrees – bring it on !!!
And yes, I do have thoughts are for those less fortunate in places such as the Tropics – and the West could help – if only the Political will allowed – both ours and more especially the despotic dictatorships.
Andy
huxley says:
October 22, 2010 at 1:18 pm
OH NOES …
Seriously, we are currently at the cold end of the Holocene (the current interglacial period). Ice cores show that eight thousand years or so ago it was a couple of degrees warmer than it is now. In addition, the previous interglacial was even warmer than that.
In neither case did we see any runaway warming. So the idea that a couple of degrees of warming above our current temperature will cause some huge climate shift is unsupported by history. It was that warm only a few thousand years ago.
So I’m not going to buy the idea that a couple of degrees of warming will radically destabilize the planet. If so, we would have seen that in the (geologically) recent past, when it was warmer than that.
Huxley, you can raise any kind of quasi-possible scare scenario you want. But I say again, I have cited periods where 2° of warming did not cause catastrophes. So until you can show me where 2° of warming caused past catastrophes, I will not believe it when you want to cry “Wolf” about some imagined future catastrophe.
Willis: I’m just reporting what I’ve read from the other side of the fence. I burned out on Stewart Brand’s alarmism back in the seventies.
My point, though, in this topic and the previous, is that Tom Fuller’s 2C compromise won’t satisfy the climate change folks either. The 2C scenario, if accepted and as you demonstrate, isn’t serious enough as a threat to convince people to acquiesce to the big green climate change agenda.
To get that kind of leverage, the climate change movement needs real catastrophic scenarios, even if they are no more than hand-waving too speculative to include in IPCC reports.
My impression is that this kind of apocalyptic thinking drives many environmentalists and progressives even though they are somewhat careful not to say so directly lest they get pinned down by skeptics.
(I do give Brand and Lovelock credit for coming around on nuclear power. They take AGW seriously, therefore they accept the necessity for nuclear power.)
“I know mine is a minority view.” Really?
I believe that anyone who has seriously thought about this issue has come to that same conclusion. Unless, of course, they make a living saying otherwise. That’s why we “deniers” often call it CAGW. There’s nothing catastrophic about it at all.
Excellent post. If we step back from the debate a bit and just exercise some common sense, there is no reason whatsoever to be concerned about a degree’s change in temperature. While it is possible for our ordinary everyday common sense to deceive us (e.g., quantum mechanics), we need strong evidence to abandon our everyday experience. In terms of CAGW, the evidence just isn’t there yet.
Willis Eschenbach says on October 22, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Willis, I think you have misunderstood. They do not claim that temperatures will run away. Rather, they claim we will have to run away from the crocodiles and snakes the size of buses. 🙂
Where I live in Canberra, Australia, we often have a daily temperature range of 20ºC (36º F). So of course we are all dead here – after all, a 2º rise will mean the end of life as we know it all over the world! Or will it? Most of us would not even notice it, as it is so far down in the noise or ordinary weather.
Willis
Great article – as is always with you. The writing style is so enjoyable apart from what you actually say. So great stuff and thanks Willis. But in this the humour just creases me with laughter. Also DirkH at October 22, 2010 at 3:00 am. I love your dry cynical humour as well. I just had to comment after picking myself up off the floor.
Doug
@polistra
Mark Twain would, of course, have been familiar with Swift’s work. There was a time when most high school graduates in the US would have been familiar with both Twain and Swift. Those graduates still living form the cadre of sceptics/skeptics we know today.
When people ask me if the planet is warming I reply that I fear it is not.