Note: There’s a response and analysis to this post here.
NOTE: Predictably, Joe Romm has turned this post into a personal bashing of me over at his Climate Progress blog. For some eye opening viewpoints from his side of the argument, have a look at the 495 comments on his parent blog “Think Progress” here. UPDATE: many of those ugly and violent comments at TP have been “sanitized” since I drew embarrassing attention to them. The word “filthy” in my post below, is pointing to the multiple use of the word to describe humans in the manifesto of the gunman, also published below. I realize that may upset some people, and for that I apologize. However, it is instructive to read the manifesto to see how global warming hype drove this man to do what he did. From this MSNBC story:
Lee said he experienced an ‘‘awakening” when he watched former Vice President Al Gore’s environmental documentary ‘‘An Inconvenient Truth.”
UPDATE: It’s over, from MSNBC:
Police shot a gunman who held three hostages for several hours Wednesday at the Discovery Communications building in Silver Spring, Md., authorities said. They said the hostages were safe and the gunman was in custody. Police said the gunman’s condition was unknown. At least one explosive device went off when he was shot, and other explosive devices could still be in the building in Montgomery County in suburban Washington, D.C., they said.
UPDATE2: MSNBC is now reporting the gunman has been killed.
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Well, you filthy readers, see what happens when we don’t acquiesce? In case you haven’t heard by now, a gunman named James Lee, an Asian man with a years-long vendetta against the Discovery Channel cable network has entered the building and got an armed hostage taking situation going on right now.
Some news coverage here:
Armed Man Believed to Be Environmental Protester Takes Hostages in Discovery Channel Building
Among his demands from the manifesto on his website:
Find solutions so that people stop breeding as well as stopping using Oil in order to REVERSE Global warming and the destruction of the planet!
MSNBC reports:
Lee said he experienced an ‘‘awakening” when he watched former Vice President Al Gore’s environmental documentary ‘‘An Inconvenient Truth.”
Perhaps inspired by Gore, and Dr. James Hansen’s recent call for civil disobedience, we have today’s environmental public relations train wreck turned armed hostage situation.
THE MANIFESTO OF JAMES LEE:
(downloaded before traffic took it down):PDF here at TMZ
The Discovery Channel MUST broadcast to the world their commitment to save the planet and to do the following IMMEDIATELY:
1. The Discovery Channel and it’s affiliate channels MUST have daily television programs at prime time slots based on Daniel Quinn’s “My Ishmael” pages 207-212 where solutions to save the planet would be done in the same way as the Industrial Revolution was done, by people building on each other’s inventive ideas. Focus must be given on how people can live WITHOUT giving birth to more filthy human children since those new additions continue pollution and are pollution. A game show format contest would be in order. Perhaps also forums of leading scientists who understand and agree with the Malthus-Darwin science and the problem of human overpopulation. Do both. Do all until something WORKS and the natural world starts improving and human civilization building STOPS and is reversed! MAKE IT INTERESTING SO PEOPLE WATCH AND APPLY SOLUTIONS!!!!
2. All programs on Discovery Health-TLC must stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic human infants and the false heroics behind those actions. In those programs’ places, programs encouraging human sterilization and infertility must be pushed. All former pro-birth programs must now push in the direction of stopping human birth, not encouraging it.
3. All programs promoting War and the technology behind those must cease. There is no sense in advertising weapons of mass-destruction anymore. Instead, talk about ways to disassemble civilization and concentrate the message in finding SOLUTIONS to solving global military mechanized conflict. Again, solutions solutions instead of just repeating the same old wars with newer weapons. Also, keep out the fraudulent peace movements. They are liars and fakes and had no real intention of ending the wars. ALL OF THEM ARE FAKE! On one hand, they claim they want the wars to end, on the other, they are demanding the human population increase. World War II had 2 Billion humans and after that war, the people decided that tripling the population would assure peace. WTF??? STUPIDITY! MORE HUMANS EQUALS MORE WAR!
4. Civilization must be exposed for the filth it is. That, and all its disgusting religious-cultural roots and greed. Broadcast this message until the pollution in the planet is reversed and the human population goes down! This is your obligation. If you think it isn’t, then get hell off the planet! Breathe Oil! It is the moral obligation of everyone living otherwise what good are they??
5. Immigration: Programs must be developed to find solutions to stopping ALL immigration pollution and the anchor baby filth that follows that. Find solutions to stopping it. Call for people in the world to develop solutions to stop it completely and permanently. Find solutions FOR these countries so they stop sending their breeding populations to the US and the world to seek jobs and therefore breed more unwanted pollution babies. FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THEM TO STOP THEIR HUMAN GROWTH AND THE EXPORTATION OF THAT DISGUSTING FILTH! (The first world is feeding the population growth of the Third World and those human families are going to where the food is! They must stop procreating new humans looking for nonexistant jobs!)
6. Find solutions for Global Warming, Automotive pollution, International Trade, factory pollution, and the whole blasted human economy. Find ways so that people don’t build more housing pollution which destroys the environment to make way for more human filth! Find solutions so that people stop breeding as well as stopping using Oil in order to REVERSE Global warming and the destruction of the planet!
7. Develop shows that mention the Malthusian sciences about how food production leads to the overpopulation of the Human race. Talk about Evolution. Talk about Malthus and Darwin until it sinks into the stupid people’s brains until they get it!!
8. Saving the Planet means saving what’s left of the non-human Wildlife by decreasing the Human population. That means stopping the human race from breeding any more disgusting human babies! You’re the media, you can reach enough people. It’s your resposibility because you reach so many minds!!!
9. Develop shows that will correct and dismantle the dangerous US world economy. Find solutions for their disasterous Ponzi-Casino economy before they take the world to another nuclear war.
10. Stop all shows glorifying human birthing on all your channels and on TLC. Stop Future Weapons shows or replace the dialogue condemning the people behind these developments so that the shows become exposes rather than advertisements of Arms sales and development!
11. You’re also going to find solutions for unemployment and housing. All these unemployed people makes me think the US is headed toward more war.
Humans are the most destructive, filthy, pollutive creatures around and are wrecking what’s left of the planet with their false morals and breeding culture.
For every human born, ACRES of wildlife forests must be turned into farmland in order to feed that new addition over the course of 60 to 100 YEARS of that new human’s lifespan! THIS IS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE FOREST CREATURES!!!! All human procreation and farming must cease!
It is the responsiblity of everyone to preserve the planet they live on by not breeding any more children who will continue their filthy practices. Children represent FUTURE catastrophic pollution whereas their parents are current pollution. NO MORE BABIES! Population growth is a real crisis. Even one child born in the US will use 30 to a thousand times more resources than a Third World child. It’s like a couple are having 30 babies even though it’s just one! If the US goes in this direction maybe other countries will too!
Also, war must be halted. Not because it’s morally wrong, but because of the catastrophic environmental damage modern weapons cause to other creatures. FIND SOLUTIONS JUST LIKE THE BOOK SAYS! Humans are supposed to be inventive. INVENT, DAMN YOU!!
The world needs TV shows that DEVELOP solutions to the problems that humans are causing, not stupify the people into destroying the world. Not encouraging them to breed more environmentally harmful humans.
Saving the environment and the remaning species diversity of the planet is now your mindset. Nothing is more important than saving them. The Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels.
The humans? The planet does not need humans.
You MUST KNOW the human population is behind all the pollution and problems in the world, and YET you encourage the exact opposite instead of discouraging human growth and procreation. Surely you MUST ALREADY KNOW this!
I want Discovery Communications to broadcast on their channels to the world their new program lineup and I want proof they are doing so. I want the new shows started by asking the public for inventive solution ideas to save the planet and the remaining wildlife on it.
These are the demands and sayings of Lee.
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h/t to the Seattle Weekly blogs and WUWT DocattheAutopsy
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Terrible tragedy.
You knew this had to happen eventually. Nevertheless, it’s very sad.
And to “Rod McLauglin”–Vis-a-vis your criticism of Anthony Watts for “inserting the word ‘warmist’ “–Did you perhaps note that this gentleman experienced his awakening AFTER WATCHING An Inconvenient Truth?
And I do hope that this self-serving gloating that some users decided to apply here is kept to a minimum.
You’re asking a lot.
One of the plastic card companies, think it was American Express, was recently running an ad campaign where people would send in their “feel good” ideas that might get funding. One featured a guy who mentioned an old dam they (who?) were trying to get rid of. He said how good it feels to take out a dam.
Beavers do it, it’s cute. Man does it, it’s a crime against nature. And here I thought with wanting renewable hydroelectric energy, with needing to increase water reserves due to expected AGW-induced droughts, and flood prevention initiatives to preserve life and property, we needed more dams.
If we’ve learned one thing from the terrorists, it’s how easy explosives can be made from common ingredients with minimal knowledge. Why not help the planet by taking out a dam? It’s not like anyone’s going to get hurt, it’s just stone and concrete getting blown up. Of course if you don’t want to risk getting blown up yourself, it only takes some brief work with a large pry bar at some out-of-sight railroad tracks to take care of one of Hansen’s “death trains” of coal. No higher cause than saving the planet, might as well do it. BTW, don’t worry about any crew on that train. They’re enablers, no better than guards at a concentration camp. They chose to be there, they accepted the risk. Get some friends to help out, repeat it often enough, get these money-grubbing Earth-destroying industrialists to reconsider what they’re doing by hitting them in the wallet, the only place they’ll notice.
I read some time ago there’s a “hidden” internet. You have to know the sites are there, they can be an otherwise-unknown part of a legitimate domain, numbered addresses, etc. You could plan some interesting things from your computer at home or work, and no one would know about it.
The projection going on in the comments at ThinkProgress is just astounding! I’m flabbergasted at these people!
Say hey old man / how can you stand to think that way…Steve Winwood
Maybe Gore’s movie wasn’t wrong about AGW killing people afterall. I believe I’m having an awakening too. Perhaps now I understand what is coming.
Rod McLaughlin says:
September 1, 2010 at 4:59 pm
@sandy jardine: unfortunately, on this occasion, Anthony did more than just ‘report the news’. He inserted the word ‘warmist’ into a story about a dangerous lunatic. It’s too easy to cherry pick stories about the lunatic fringe of whatever you don’t like. I don’t think this is one of the most responsible posts I have seen on this site.
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Get a grip and read his manifesto. Much of it is part and parcel of the warmista vernacular. The thing is, rational people don’t act in the manner Lee did. However, this world isn’t made exclusively of rational people. Irrational people will grab onto hyperbole and act. As Sandw15 has pointed out, there are several statements on the alarmist side that equate CO2 emitters to the lowest form not even worthy of human designation. Did they think the irrational people of this earth would never act on their portrayals? Or do they absolve themselves with allusion their words will be never acted upon?
After reading his manifesto, I’m surprised he didn’t target a hospital maternity ward.
I made the mistake of clicking the link to ThunkRegress. My eyes!!!!! I need to wash them with bleach. I’d forgotten those people were out there in blog land. And even worse, they are allowed to walk the streets as well.
That blog isn’t taken seriously is it? really?
So sad. Mr. Lee forget ancient Chinese saying, “We all die before Earth die.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/18/scott-brown-terrorism-yawn/
“Today a man flew a plane into a Texas federal building in an apparent domestic terrorist attack. The suicide bomber, identified as Joseph Andrew Stack, was allegedly a right wing extremist who wrote on a website that violence “is the only answer” and expressed anger at the IRS, the federal government, and health care reform.”
Yeah, Romm has a leg to stand on. Sure.
If you read his note, he is repeating what the green extreme sites publish.
It seems Joe Roomm can’t find words strong enough with enough drama.
On Tamino, they are just talking about this thread and not at all about the ecobomber.
This man was obviously a schizophrenic, not a “warmista”. Shame on you Anthony for exploiting his death, you are a sad man.
Wow, thanks for the heads up to the Romm blog. I know that blogs can be a bit of a moshpit, but that is over the top.
The Rage !
Wouldn’t take much to push some of the commenters over there into Lee territory. I hope none of them get cut off in traffic or maybe get a mistake with their fast food order…..
@James Baldwin Sexton
As Sandw15 has pointed out, there are several statements on the alarmist side that equate CO2 emitters to the lowest form not even worthy of human designation. Did they think the irrational people of this earth would never act on their portrayals?
And you don’t think that the rhetoric from both ends of the political spectrum is capable of fueling the kind of paranoia exhibited here? What about the “environmentalism is a plot to force socialism/world government on an unsuspecting population” argument. Or how about this one from above “This [environmental] movement has an underbelly that draws inspiration from the Khmer Rouge.”
It sounds pretty alarmist to me.
And none of the rest of you call anyone to account on these kinds of extremist statements.
Also, if I remember correctly, what Romm is referencing as hypocrisy in his Climate Progress post was someone showing up at Anthony’s house or office. That is just crazy. Where are all the people hijacking tv stations to stop the spread of ‘AGW propoganda’ and so forth?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/09/01/left-frantically-spins-discovery-shooters-radical-environmentalism-w
As I was saying a few days ago…
Animus homo inimicus delenda est.
Misanthropy is to be wiped out.
Just another inconvenient reminder that irrational dogma breeds fanaticism. First the Unabomber, now this… what next? MSNBC has found a youtube video of a TV show that James Lee allegedly pitched to The Discovery Channel. Please note the calving iceberg that features prominently in the program at about the 40 second mark:
Mental illness. When people have this, we cringe, stay silent, or roll out unending pithy blame comments. When someone says, “I have cancer”, get-well cards come rolling out. Folks, I am sorry, but I can’t go along with most of the comments here.
My heart goes out to the family of this man. I would send a get-well card to them, but alas, there is no cure yet for such mental torment as I see written in his manifesto. Unless you have a close family member with mental illness, you have no idea. Just no idea.
This thread has brought up all kinds of feelings and bad memories and I will not comment again. I wish the thread had never seen the light of day. It speaks of making hay out of devastation and I am deeply disappointed that it appeared here.
Well… some of us have been saying “you first” for a while now. Apparently the truly deranged are listening. Unfortunately, they’re going to try to take others with them, which can not be allowed. I propose we set up “extermination booths”, as shown in the original Star Trek, for people to voluntarily walk into when the urge hits them.
Although “heartless” is the absolute LAST word anyone can use to describe me, I also have zero tolerance for stupid. People who immerse themselves into a fantasy world of AGW, Peak Oil, and a few other ridiculous conspiracy theories to the point they feel they have to “take action” get zero respect from me. Neither do those who goad them, feed them, and DEFEND THEM IN COURT (yes, you, Hansen).
This is a very sad event, but alas as we sow so shall we reap. Think of all the alarmist global warming and extremist-green propaganda being pumped into our kids today. Even now, I bet some science teacher is showing his class “An Inconvenient Truth”. This, along with all the alarmist messages in the media on how we urgently need to “do something” to stop global warming (or harming the earth in some other unlikely way). With kids growing up with this junk science all around them, it’s inevitable that some not-so-sane types decide to take matters into their own hands.
Unfortunately the CAGW types and eco-extremists will never moderate their message – too much money in the climate business to turn back now…
Come on, folks. I’m no fan of warmistas, but this unfortunate man was most probably just mentally ill and if it hadn’t have been one thing, it would likely have been another that prompted him to go postal.
LOL was just over at the Rommanista site, he’s claiming that the gunman is only a “purported” ecoterrorist. Some of his commenters are claiming this guy is a conservative anti-immigration terrorist.
Duckster says:
September 1, 2010 at 6:43 pm
@James Baldwin Sexton
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And you don’t think that the rhetoric from both ends of the political spectrum is capable of fueling the kind of paranoia exhibited here? What about the “environmentalism is a plot to force socialism/world government on an unsuspecting population” argument. Or how about this one from above “This [environmental] movement has an underbelly that draws inspiration from the Khmer Rouge.”
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Oddly, I don’t find the parallels. Sir, we’ve been dealing with communists/socialists since the first person realized he could rationalize himself into equal value with people that contribute.(never bothering to understand it kills initiative of the people that do) The response from the skeptics hasn’t been to round them up and kill the alarmists. Conversely, the Khmer Rouge, was and is, indeed a communist movement that engaged in such actions. The worst free market capitalists did was hold Senate hearings. I’m terribly sorry if you take offense to the actions of Stalin, Mao, and the ilk, but they were indeed communists and socialists. You see, the difference of the death trains of the Soviet Union, National Socialist Germany, and the Khmer Rouge versus the death trains of Jim Hansen’s coal is a thing called REALITY.
Lunatics won’t understand the difference like you and I do. Do I sometimes wish the rhetoric would ease up? Sure. Do I, for one second, believe we should not always remind people of the realities of communist/socialism. Never. If we are delivered unto them, this fate will assuredly be delivered unto us. History has taught us this lesson over and over again.
Duckster, I may be unique here and may not be representative of many people here. But this is the sole reason of why I engage here. I don’t care if the earth is warming or not. I don’t care if the arctic melts or not. I don’t care about the thermodynamics of our atmosphere. I care about self-determination(as individuals and collectively). I care about choice. I believe mankind should be allowed to achieve to the heights of his greatest ambitions and not be defined by the least common denominator. I believe mankind’s freedom, both physically, intellectually and spiritually is mankind’s salvation, not his destruction. I believe mankind’s destruction comes from the inhibition of his achievement. I believe mankind should not be defined by what he was forced not to do, but rather, by what heights he did ascend to.
I find my listed beliefs in direct conflict with the AGW movement.
well i took a look around at RC and thinkprogress…unlike WUWT or even MSM they do not post Lee’s actual words.
and FWIW joe romm truly is a hypocrite