Gore concedes on climate this year
By Steve Milloy GreenHellBlog, August 10, 2010
Speaking about the likelihood of climate bill being passed by Congress in 2010, Al Gore told a conference call of supporters tonight that, “this battle has not been successful and is pretty much over for this year.” Gore bitterly denounced the Senate and federal government stating several times, “The U.S. Senate has failed us” and “The federal government has failed us.” Gore even seemed to blame President Obama by emphasizing that “the government as a whole has failed us… although the House did its job. [emphasis added]”
Gore urged his listeners to take the “realistic view that they had failed badly.” Gore said that “Comprehensive legislation is not likely to be debated” and that a “lame duck debate” is a “very slim possibility indeed.” (N.B. We thought, because Gore told us, that “the debate” was over.)
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Gore blamed the skeptics for “attacking science and scientists.” “They [the skeptics] did damage and cast doubt,” Gore said.
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In a warm-up discussion before Gore addressed the call, National Wildlife Federation chief Larry Schweiger referred to the skeptics as “enemies” and that he hoped the alarmists would “outlive the bastards.”
Read entire story: Gore concedes on climate this year at Greenhell blog
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Oh, and those NWF folks surely could find a way to squeeze in the word “donate” a couple more times on their web page:
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Bastards!!! This is a badge of honour my friends.
““They [the skeptics] did damage and cast doubt,” Gore said.”
This is the job of a sceptic. Gore should now say “the debate is over” and let’s all find some usefull employments and earn an honest days work.
As for the National Wildlife Federation they are well advised to steer well away from Gore and concentrate of protecting wildlife in general and forget about the trace gas co2. Co2 is at the base of the food pyramid chain whilewildlife is at the top. Can’t they see the bitter irony? Gore and his ilk may soon be tarred and feathered within a couple of years.
Here is one possible reason for calling us “bastards” namely:
From my RSS reader…speaking of believers gone wild, here’s one who told a conference last week that, faced with a choice between planting trees for carbon credits or using the land for food production, “We must not think food is special”. It was a head to head debate between NIWA climate scientists and NZ-based skeptics Ian Wishart and Barry Brill. Interesting reading, and the believer walked out when the debate wasn’t going his way.
http://briefingroom.typepad.com/the_briefing_room/2010/08/quote-of-the-month-we-must-not-think-that-food-is-special.html
sometimes these web ads that pop up at random are the funniest parts of a page!
When I read this, right at the end of the article detailing Al Gore’s frustration and anger was a picture of a sweet young thing with the big caption; “WANT A GIRLFRIEND?”
ROFL!!!
Al Gordo snivels. ☺
Though I’m rather late to the party on this story, allow me to take on Mr. Gore’s assertion that the government has failed us.
If the point of any form of representative democratic government is to provide a forum for the orderly debate of issues affecting the whole electorate, then it follows logically that all of the points of view within that electorate be provided at least as much credence and voice as they exist within the population at large. If the point of view held by Mr. Gore were the only point of view active within the whole population, then, yes, I would agree that the government has failed us by not enacting a federal legislative mandate.
But that’s not the case.
There are indeed other points of view held by those within the electorate, and in order for our representative democracy to actually do it’s job, those points of view must be provided the same credence and voice as Mr. Gore’s. Additionally, there’s the matter of perceived level of importance which must be taken into account. As our economic position has continued to erode, evidence continues to mount that the public at large place the whole climate change issue at a steadily lower level of importance as compared with other concerns. I don’t think that’s even particularly controversial at this point in time. People care much more about jobs, keeping their homes, the wars in which we’re engaged, than they are about climate change.
So based on this brief analysis, since there are other points of view than Mr. Gore’s, and since the issue is declining in importance to most Americans, it’s axiomatic that our representatives to the government should rightly a) hear out both (or should I say all) sides in the debate, and b) ultimately turn their attention to the issues and concerns which weigh most heavily upon the minds of their constituents. Without doing both, they would indeed be failing us.
Mr. Gore’s assertion that government is failing us is based entirely on the dual premises that they a) should have suppressed any points of view different than the one he holds, and b) they should have placed much greater importance on the issue than the body politic does. But those premises run contrary to the purposes of a real representative and democratic form of governance. Therefore, we can only interpret Mr. Gore’s statement in one way – his understanding of the fundamental role of representative democracy is faulty, because it’s only that faulty understanding which can support the conclusion that government failed us.
Thank Adonai for Chad. Can you imagine where we would be with this cretin as the present dunce.
“As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;
“And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!”
While I in no way expect this war to be over, how much of a debt does the world owe the person(s) who leaked the emails from CRU?
We are winning the argument but loose the battle.
Green legislation is introduced in virtually every corner of our economies and nobody up to this moment in time has been able to stop this process.
“the government as a whole has failed us”
– My nomination for QotW.
Hobo says:
August 11, 2010 at 2:40 am
“It’s been a summer of near biblical climatic havoc across the planet, with wildfires, heat and smog in Russia and killer floods in Asia. But the moment the Petermann glacier cracked last week — creating the biggest Arctic ice island in half a century — may symbolize a warming world like no other.
“It’s so big that you can’t prevent it from drifting. You can’t stop it,” said Jon-Ove Methlie Hagen, a glaciologist at the University of Oslo.
During the Little Ice Age, when Ice that large was plowing down the Swiss Alps, nothing could stop it, except the prayers of 1 cardinal. See, this is what gets Warmist Alarmists into trouble. The public has caught on to the reverse logic, and they stop to think about it.
When it rains too much, you get floods.
When it snows too much, you get avalanches.
When glaciers melt away, they recede.
When glaciers are growing, they advance.
Maurauding Killer Ice Masses are not a sign of warming at all, they never were, and they never will be.
This is exactly how the Warmists have managed to wind up in a wheelchair of public opinion: They too many holes in thier feet.
It tells us we didn’t attack him because he is not associated with either science or being a scientist.
According to Gore, the planet is several million degrees right below the surface.
And they say this is science and not a religion.
Well done America. Now in the UK we have this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/greenpolitics/taxandtheenvironment/7937911/Business-facing-a-wave-of-green-taxes.html Our ridiculous Climate Change Act is beginning to bite. Just when we need businesses to increase their profitability. Our Conservative/LibDem coalition is as pro CAWG as was Labour.
Well, I am going to try to say something about the climate science situation presented in this WUWT post without resorting to labels, tags or stereotypes.
a) Some people are critical of some published pieces of climate science.
b) Some people are publishing critical reviews of published pieces of climate science.
c) Some people are actively engaged on a steep learning curve to understand climate science and in the process realize that all is not as they are told. The science has not been settled and there is nowhere near any kind of consensus.
They (a, b, c above) are given a tag, a name and a stereotype that is insulting by other people. This implies that the other people are somehow threatened by the actions in a), b) & c) above. Note: several other behaviors by the other people occur as well that imply they are threatened by the some people.
Why are they threatened, when the above (a, b, c) sound like the reasonable behavior of any free independent person?
My evolving conclusion is that the “some people” above are facing a belief system that dominates the “other people”. It is my experience that it is fundamentally traumatic to a belief system to be questioned by any consistent use of the human tools of reason and logic. I perceive that any climate focused belief system is profoundly threatened by the reasonable behavior of any free independent person.
There have been suggestions on this and other blogs of compromise on disputed climate science to bring the disputing parties together for the good of all. I cannot find merit that there should be any compromise on principle in science. As for the “good of all” tactic, that is the fundamental reason why the two parties are disputing climate science so intensely in the first place, so it cannot be the basis for agreement.
The only solution to the dispute is the open practice of science. Everyone should see everything in climate science. Also, the peer review system should be opened up.
There, I think I said something about the current climate science situation without using any bad names.
John
Blade says:
August 11, 2010 at 12:37 am
Bingo.
Col. Hans Landa: [giddy] Oooh, that’s a bingo!
Col. Hans Landa: Is that the way you say it? “That’s a bingo?”
Lt. Aldo Raine: You just say “bingo”.
Col. Hans Landa: Bingo! How fun! But, I digress. Where were we?
Yep, a bastard all the way, congratulations 😛
Once again the alarmists are misplacing the blame. The average person has been told of “catastrophic weather events” with “no more snowy winters”, “hurricanes out the wazoo”, blah, blah, blah. It is the good ol’ earth that has refuted their claims, but they dare not blame it on her. I think it is quite funny that to the alarmists, Katrina had signal the beginning of devastation from hurricane after hurricane. Has not turned out to be the case. Anthony, keep doing what you are doing, but apparently the earth does not need us to defend her.
My opinion for what its worth:
Its just a tactic to test support and leverage free publicity.
If the Bill had been of any value, it would have been supported for its merits.
He is simply playing the blame game to take the focus off the true issues.
And watch out for the lame-duck session after the November elections. The radical left will not give up easily.
/Mr Lynn
he hoped the alarmists would “outlive the bastards.”
Not possible, Larry. Our side still believes in reproduction. I’ll be passing on my skepticism along with my genes.
“…Gore bitterly blamed a ‘biased right-wing media… bolstered by professional deniers.’ Gore claimed the Wall Street Journal published 30 editorial and news articles about Climategate and ‘not a single one presented [his] side of the science.’ ”
Oh, the irony of it all. I believe I proved in my 7/29 American Thinker article “The Left and Its Talking Points” http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/07/the_left_and_its_talking_point.html that his side of the issue was almost exclusively presented ever since 1996 on one particular main stream media outlet. He would be hard pressed to say the other news outlets gave him any less coverage or any usable amount of skeptic science that would have changed the average uninformed citizen’s mind about AGW.
Calling all global warming/cooling alarmists!
Here’s where the answer to rapid warmings and coolings is… how they happen. We don’t need a bunch of confu$ion from profiteer$ of doom$, we need proper volcanic gas plume altitude monitoring and the temperature record to be accurate and not manipulated. Read the parts about ozone destruction, Al. Also ‘Year Without a Summer’
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_sulfur_aerosols
Timetable of major worldwide volcanic eruptions
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timetable_of_major_worldwide_volcanic_eruptions
Main article: Global dimming
The Global dimming through volcanism (ash aerosol and sulfur dioxide) is quite independent of the eruption VEI.[79][80][81] When sulfur dioxide (boiling point at standard state: -10°C) reacts with water vapor, it creates sulfate ions (the precursors to sulfuric acid), which are very reflective; ash aerosol on the other hand absorbs Ultraviolet.
So at low altitude you get warming, at stratosphere level or above its the opposite. But it always contributes to later warmings in a few ways. Ozone destruction and low atmosphere loading of aerosols.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_winter
More on ozone destruction…
Volcanic Gases and Their Effects
http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/index.php
To a small extent man does contribute, but something like Eyjafjallajökull can easily overwhelm that. I look for the oceans to quickly warm back up unless we get a good size high altitude eruption or two(3) pretty soon.
The Church of Climatology, like all religions, needs an adversarial backdrop to display their piety against and a scape goat to shoulder the burden of their own all too frequent failures.
I doubt L.Ron Hubbard could have ever imagined, in his all too fertile mind, Al Gore being able to out wacky him so thoroughly.
We should deeply thank HIM for his astounding feat of convincing everybody that Global Warming/Climate Change and all associated mantras were a JOKE.
Only fools now believe.
RockyRoad:
The screwtype letters?