There’s a riotously funny bit of inside “Climate Math” humor over at Climate Audit from Steve Mosher that is well worth your time. I’m reminded of this famous sketch, but with enough players to actually make a baseball team:
See the next video and link.
Fair warning, if you don’t understand inverted Tiljander sediment proxies, FTP folders labeled “censored”, Real Climate Censorship al la Gavin, or the mindset of Mann and Tamino, you might not get it.
Here’s the link:
http://climateaudit.org/2010/08/06/mosher-on-gavins-frustration
Though, since Climate Math is involved, perhaps this Abbot and Costello sketch is more appropriate:
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This reminds me of a very funny cartoon sketch.
If Mann is the guy holding the bat, who’s the other – and why hasn’t he got a hockey-stick?
Absolutely wonderful. What is most disturbing is I remember watching and listening to Abbot and Costello on early TV and of course radio. Good satire is always in season since the situations never truly change on the names of those being the butt of the joke.
What those boys need is a good hot bowl of Campbell’s Cream of Catastrophic Soup.
Saw that Tiny Toon cartoon in college and nearly wet myself. I may have been drinking at the time too…
Funny video clips!
But the hockeyguys are hilarious at realclimate. Every comment is stand up comedy!!!
Yes, I am laughing out loud. But now all that AGW stuff makes sense. 😉
I think the cartoon is even better.
(Still laughing.)
For background, the math sequence originates from the comments section following an interview of Gavin Schmidt at:
http://www.collide-a-scape.com/
This is the way the hockey stick breaks,
This is the way the hockey team folds,
This is the way the hockey game ends;
Not with a goal, with a giggle.
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A real climate thread is also implicated in the amusing “New, New Math” Mosher article:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/07/the-montford-delusion/
Sadly the real climate moderators have been releasing only a trickle of additional comments into this thread – which is a shame because they were amusing too (in a somewhat less deliberate way):
To get a sense of the general tone try:
“Once McIntyre or Watts’ legions get wind of a forum discussion on AGW, it needs to be heavily moderated. They are just drones that ceaselessly regurgitate denier canards that have been debunked time and time again.”
Good to know that the science and logic are as crisp and robust as ever.
Ah, but you see “2 + 2 = 5” is actually true, for sufficiently large values of “2”.
It is also true that “2 + 2 = 3” for sufficiently small values of “2”.
Given random real numbers that are, to one digit of precision, “2”, their sum will be “4” three quarters of the time, “3” and “5” each one eighth of the time.
Or, how about instead of taking their ball and going home, the Hockey Team is getting the puck outta here.
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This is really a remarkable development. As discussed here:
http://climateaudit.org/2010/08/01/the-no-dendro-illusion/
and here:
http://www.collide-a-scape.com/2010/08/04/gavins-perspective/
…Gavin and Tamino are unable to defend Mann’s hockey stick against the criticism that it relies on the presence of suspect proxies amongst the input noise.
(Tamino’s attempted defense, posted here: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/07/the-montford-delusion/ was quickly dispatched by McIntyre’s article linked above).
What’s also amazing is that hundreds or thousands of people have been watching the debunking in public.
The unprecedented warmth claim itself is now highly suspect. What will happen next? Angry recriminations or acceptance of the facts (even if the fact is uncertainty) – it will be interesting to see!
Can someone (Anthony?) please give Steve M a hand with his new web site. The old one used to print beautifully. The new one is a mess. WUWT was changed recently to print nicely. CA could do with the same treatment. Thanks.
I am reminded of the problem Verizon had a few years ago admitting there is a difference between .02 dollars and .02 cents – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2isSJKntbg
AMac’s account of the Paleo Bank is hilarious too.
Steve isn’t having as much fun with the thread as some of us, but bless his heart for knowing that comic relief is a necessary part of any healthy conversation.
SteveM: 2 + 2 = 4
Gavin: Nobody cares!
Pielke Jr.: I don’t see a need to dwell on that when the future is a decarbonized economy based on free market principles, not political mandates and unworkable social engineering.
OT, but I came across a new word today – don’t ask me how to pronounce it: Totschweigtaktik – the Austro-German word for ”death by silence”. ”An astonishingly effective tactic for killing off creative work or fresh ideas or even news stories. You don’t criticise or engage with what’s being said or produced or expressed; instead you deprive someone and their work or opinion of the oxygen of attention”.
It sums up the MO of the official climate “community” perfectly. Dr. Spencer and others have complained about the wall of silence. The word came from an [unrelated] article here:
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/democracy-weakened-by-charade-20100806-11oe7.html
ABC (Australia) add to the humour with a story on Polar Bears that features a photo with the mouse over caption “A male polar bear waits for an ice sheet to form”.
http://abcnewswatch.blogspot.com/2010/08/abc-polar-bear-whisperers.html
May be waiting for some time, then again given this years low polar temps maybe not.
Mann: 2+2=5
McIntyre: No, 2+2=4
Mann: thats bizarre
Mc: 2+2=4, just say it Mike
Mann: it doesnt matter, look over here we say 3+3=6
Mc: 2+2=4
Mann: it doesnt matter, ask gavin
Amac: ya 2+2=4
Mann: it doesnt matter
Mosher: Can anybody besides steve just say that 2+2=4
Dehog: You said Piltdown Mann once.
Mc: 2+2=4
Gavin: it doesnt matter:
Tiljander: 2+2=4
Arthur Smith: I”ll look into it.
Amac; 2+2=4
Gavin: Can we change the subject, we said it doesnt matter.
Mosher: can you say 2+2=4
Lambert: Fuller is full of it.
Bishop: Mike said 2+2=5, but 2+2=4
Tamino: Bishop said 2+2=5
Mc: Bishop was explaining Mann.
Amac: 2+2=4
Kloor: why can’t we reason together?
Gavin: we try, but they wont read our answers.
Amac: 2+2=4
Gavin: There he goes again, please shut him up.
Mc; 2+2=4
RC commenter: Do your own science Mcintyre
Mc: 2+2=4 is not publishable. Mann needs to correct this.
Mann: its all in the SI
Amac: hey mann website now says 2+2=4
Gavin: The exact value of 2+2 is uninteresting. move along
RC commenter: Hey McIntyre said 2+2=5
Mc: no I didnt
RC commenter: oops, my bad, but I’m right in spirit
Gavin: discussion over, lets talk about the black list.
Kloor: all you people who think 2+2=4, can discuss this further.
Scientist: Tiljander’s paper wasn’t perfect, lets pressure test her.
Amac: but 2+2=4
Scientist: Can you give me a reading list?
Bender: read the whole blog.
Amac: in summary 2+2=4
Deltoid Commenter: tw pls tw eqls fr
Lambert: You’ve been disemvoweled
Amac: 2+2=4
Hank Roberts: I can’t find Amac on google scholar
Jim Praul: Good I’ll put him on the list.
Shell Oil: 2+2 =4
Deep Climate: that proves McIntyre’s Oil connection.
Briffa: I got 2+2=3
Harry: I didnt write that code.
Mann: Keith, hide that decline, here borrow 2 from me.
Jones: Keith, we match Mann now 2+2=5
Obsborn: Somebody email Amman and see what he thinks.
RyanO: good luck with that, Amman never answers mail
Palmer: Perfect, ask him if our mail is confidential.
Amman:
Jones: I think Amman would agree,deny the FOIA
Briffa (CONFIDENTIAL) gene, McItyre says 2+2=4. Can you help.
Wahl: We replicated his work, 2+2=5
Holland: I heard that.
Amac: 2+2=4
Amman: Oh MAN! will this crap ever end?? (http://eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=887)
RyanO: Hey, how’d you get Amman to answer mail?
YAD061: 2+2=5 (+-6sigma)
Amac:2+2=4
Brian Angliss: Lots of mails you havent read might say 2+2=4
Santer: Amac, you and me in the alley.
Dehog: Christy Believes in God.
Spencer: wrong skeptic, dehog.
God: 2+2=4
Jones: Dear God, delete your mail
Overpeck: Keith we need something more compelling than the Hockey stick
Briffa: 2+2=4.1?
Overpeck: MORE compelling keith
Wigley: McIntyre may have a point on this 2+2=4 thing.
Mann: “Who knows what trickery has been pulled or selective use of data made.”
Eli rabbet: Spencer made a mistake, therefore, 2+2=5
Amac: 2+2=4
Briffa: I got it, Peck, 2+2=5
Mann: I said that first.
Gavin: In a massive waste of time and money Independent researchers have investigated this uninteresting thing.
Moshpit:{ slaps forehead}
Amman: http://www.naturesongs.com/cricket1.wav
Shell Oil: Hulme we gave you 2 million last month and you want another 2 million?
Hulme: Ya, 5 should be enough. Pachauri, promised us 6, so that makes 12.
Shell oil: Who is your accountant?
Hulme: Wei-Chyung Wang, at Suny
Jones: He keeps great records ask Keenan.
Amac: 2+2=4.
Deltoid commenter: can I buy a vowel?
Lambert: buy 2 get 2 free
Mann: He doesnt need 5, Tim, sheesh.
Judith Curry: can you boys please stop this nonsense
Mann: They started it
Mc: did not
Gavin: did too
Amac: did somebody say 2? 2+2=4
The Monster says: August 6, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Ah, but you see “2 + 2 = 5″ is actually true, for sufficiently large values of “2″.
It is also true that “2 + 2 = 3″ for sufficiently small values of “2″.
Given random real numbers that are, to one digit of precision, “2″, their sum will be “4″ three quarters of the time, “3″ and “5″ each one eighth of the time.
Given a large number of readings, you can increase the accuracy of your results beyond the precision of your measurements. – Geodesy 321.
Or you can use alternative methods like PCA and homogenization if you’re more concerned with precision than accuracy.
Steven mosher says: August 7, 2010 at 12:10 am
Mann: 2+2=5 . . .
Brilliant. (+-6 sigma)
If the sun refused to shine
I don’t mind, I don’t mind
If the mountains, fell in the sea
Let it be, it ain’t me
Got my own world to live through
And I ain’t gonna copy you
Yeah (sing the song brother…)
Now if a six turned out to be nine
I don’t mind, I don’t mind
OMG! Brilliant Mr. Mosher!!
wtfLOLbbq!!!!11
If the Josh ever tries an animation- that’s the perfect script!!!!!