Bad News For Holland

By Steve Goddard

The World Cup was bad news for Holland, but that isn’t what I am talking about.

The world’s preeminent climatologist Dr. James Hansen (who is well known for quiet understatement) has forecast that Holland will drown in the next century. Looks like East Anglia is doomed too. Is that a bad thing?

If that isn’t bad enough, NASA’s Cape Canaveral, Key West, and Miami are toast!

Dr. Hansen says :

I find it almost inconceivable that “business as usual” climate change will not result in a rise in sea level measured in metres within a century.

According to the University of Colorado, sea level has been rising at 3.2 mm/yr since 1994, and has generally been slowing down over the last five years (except for the El Niño spike.)

http://sealevel.colorado.edu/current/sl_noib_global_sm.jpg

That means it will only take 312 years to rise one metre. Which is not far off from what it has been doing for the last century.

http://www.globalwarmingart.com/images/thumb/0/0f/Recent_Sea_Level_Rise.png/700px-Recent_Sea_Level_Rise.png

It is imperative that we make plans to protect Holland. First step is to hire Hansen to put his finger in the dike. Second step is to teach their strikers how to kick the ball somewhere besides straight to the goalkeeper.

At least they didn’t lose a penalty shootout this year.

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George E. Smith
July 13, 2010 8:57 am

Have you ever heard the expression: “Lighten Up.” ?
Of course nobody wishes any ill will for the Netherlands; and a goo dmany of us believe they are in no immediate danger of any inundation; other than from natural variability causes.

sky
July 13, 2010 5:40 pm

Does Hansen have friends or relatives in Holland who are peddling future beach-front property tens of kilometers inland from the North Sea? I raise this frivolous idea only because the totally unexpected question can stop the prophets of doom. The question whether SIO plans to locate uphill from its present site (UC has a prescient RE group) is what made a certain famous AGW professor visibly blush in a public forum.

BQuartero
July 13, 2010 8:22 pm

This story about Holland/The Netherlands disappearing in a hundred years comes from a man who apparently does not understand the basic principals of deltas, sedimentary processes or even elementary geology. Yet he is partially correct, for completely the wrong reasons. The only reason why Holland is likely to get flooded is that through more than a thousand years of engineering, the Delta has been constrained by dikes and thus controlled waterways.
Holland is sinking for a number of reasons. One is that Holland is on the opposite side of the post-glacial see-saw rebound (Scandinavia is coming up, Northern Germany&Holland is going down). Secondly, a major structural (low)/tectonic element, the Rhine Graben runs right through Holland. Hence major run-off (rivers) find the low spot and so, the Rhine ,Schelde and Maas, find their way to the Ocean through Holland.
As it is with deltas, rivers bring sediment and build land by dumping that sediment where the flow rates are reduced. This is a very dynamic process, where rivers and sea are in a constant battle for dominance. Deltas are areas where the rivers win and land is being added. With every spring flood new sediment is dumped on the flood plains, while sand and gravel is moved out to the shore line where beaches and dunes are formed in high energy processes (waves and winds). Sediments settle and compact over time, which is the third reason why Holland “sinks”. Sediments added by the rivers keep filling the low areas. All these processes have been going on for millions of years, and have little to do with climate variability (although climates play a minor role). Without building dikes, the delta would be an area constant under natural flood threats (river induced with occasional oceanic storm surges) because deltas are basically near sea level by virtue of they way they are formed. They tend to build out into the sea, not up to many tens or hundreds of meters. They remain flat and low and are located in low lying, generally sinking parts of the Earth’s Crust. Due to the constant sediment load brought by rivers, they remain at/near sea-level and build up to the highest possible flood level, so in general slightly above mean sea level. Every spring flood adds a few milli-meters and this keeps the delta as a land building phenomenon. Holland as a country has elected to control the spring floods with river dikes. This has significant advantages don’t get me wrong, but over a prolonged period of many hundreds of years, this will make the low lying areas sinking without the benefit of annual addition of thin layers of mud that could keep the land in balance with the sea. So… warnings about Holland eventually losing the battle need to be taken very seriously. Building bigger dams alone is not enough; where mother nature can not add sediment naturally, over time, geo-engineering has to step up and build up low floodplains. New developments are generally build on/with added sand, several meter thick, so some progress is being made. Funny enough is that might Holland eventually flood and conform the “2107 picture”, all manmade dikes are gone and the natural delta processes will be in full swing, thus completely contradict and counter the prediction. As long as the rivers bring sediment, the deltas always win. It is more predictable than who will win the World Cup.
On a side note: Bangladesh is a similar very successful delta, with the largest sediment supply in the world running off the Himalayas. As long as the rivers are not constrained, that delta will always be there, near sea level, prone to flooding, mainly by river run-off (not rising sea level), and growing. It still remains a very good idea when living in a delta to learn how to swim and have a boat.

David
July 14, 2010 5:22 am

BQuartero says:
July 13, 2010 at 8:22 pm
“Holland is sinking for a number of reasons. One is that Holland is on the opposite side of the post-glacial see-saw rebound (Scandinavia is coming up, Northern Germany&Holland is going down). Secondly, a major structural (low)/tectonic element, the Rhine Graben runs right through Holland. Hence major run-off (rivers) find the low spot and so, the Rhine ,Schelde and Maas, find their way to the Ocean through Holland.”
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If Holland is subject to post-glacial rebound (isostacy) the effect, coming out of the last glacial some 14,000 years ago, must be quite small indeed. By contrast, Greenland’s isostatic rise, because of melting, is now about 5cm/year and accellerating.
Holland is not sinking, only the western part directly behind the dunes, has been artificially lowered by peat bog mining starting at about 1500.
Can you give some figures as to how much Holland is sinking? I mean, Holland as a whole, not just the ancient peat bog areas. Feel free to give the figures in millimetres or microns. There’s no point in comparing post-glacial rebound with sea level rises when the time scales don’t match.
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“As long as the rivers are not constrained, that delta will always be there, near sea level, prone to flooding, mainly by river run-off (not rising sea level), and growing. It still remains a very good idea when living in a delta to learn how to swim and have a boat.”
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River run-off v sea level rises, cause and effect. If the sea level rises say 1 metre, the river level will rise by 1 metre, causing flooding.

David
July 14, 2010 5:33 am

George E. Smith says:
July 13, 2010 at 8:57 am
Have you ever heard the expression: “Lighten Up.” ?
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Judging from a number of comments, the notion of Holland flooding was treated as a joke. Some comments were demeaning, ignorant and unintelligent. I have a good sense of humour including the self-depricating version, but some comments were not even remotely funny. That has nothing to do with “lightening-up”.
The Dutch take sea level rises quite seriously and it doesn’t have to be 7 metres, one or two will be a headache.

Pascvaks
July 14, 2010 6:46 am

The arrogance of mankind cannot be surpassed. “We must stop the ocean rise!” “We must make the Sahara Desert bloom like Edan once again!” “We must bring back dinosaurs, dodos, and every form of sea life that ever was!” “We must increase the orbit of Venus ever so slightly and Teraform that planet into another Earth to allow for the expansion of humanity’s zillions!” “We must … we must… we must… !!!!”
Humans haven’t changed a bit in the past million years. Oh, sure our toys become a little more complicated every so often; but the species is still as primitive as it ever was. There are the pragmatists, there are the dreamers, there are the worthless, there are the brilliant, there are the money grubbing thieves, there are the bleeding hearts, there are the old afraid of being forgotten, there are the young who only think of themselves; this list could go on for thousands of lines.
The Dutch are a wonderful people, Holland is a beautiful country — I’ve been there several times– I’ve also lived in Florida. Is the world going to change as we live and breath and watch? You bet it is! It always has! It always will! What’s the point of all the talk? Recognizing and learning the truth. Doing what we can and should.
Ref. Gore, Mann & Co. – We used to have some pretty good ways of dealing with these people, a million years ago; I guess –in this respect– we’ve taken a few steps backwards. Well, nobody’s perfect.

BQuartero
July 14, 2010 10:49 am

David,
if you are interested in isostatic rebound I am sure you will be able to do your own research, as you should, and don’t take my word for it. The estimates of positive (and negative) rebound run from about 0.5 to 1 cm/year. Maybe you can find some references as high as 2 cm/year. The estimates are based on dividing obvious uplifts and relative sinks from marker beds by the time/age difference of those marker beds. Then taking post glacial sea level rise into account. Wether the number is 0.5 or 2 cm/year does not really matter too much. The point is that it is the sediment supply that allows deltas to develop. Matching sea level rise to subsidence is missing the key element. But yes, Holland is sinking, and not by peat removal (which is not sinking, but human induced surface mining). But you are right, not every point is sinking and not at an equal rate. Brabant and Limburg are more under the influence of structural control. The Peel still shows active faulting due to tectonic activity in the Rhine graben. The rivers are where the subsidence leads them. The beauty of deltas is that they are in a dynamic balance with seal level. if sea level drops, the rivers bypass their previously formed delta and start forming a new lobe. rivers switch course and new sediment fills in an area under compaction. If sea level rises, the flood level rises, as you noted, and thus the accommodation space for new sediment deposition increases. As long as the sediment supply is sufficient, deltas build out and up (with and up to sea level, not much higher). Holland’s problem is not the sediment supply, but the fact that the rivers are diked-in and can no longer freely distribute their annual sediment load evenly, thus subsidence due to the formerly stated reasons takes over. The Bangladesh/Brahmaputra delta has been building for millions of years and has effectively kept up and thrived during one of the fastest sea level rises in geological history. It also has been flagged as an area that will drown (Gore’s movie). If there is any area that will never drown due to sea level rise, it is Bangladesh; as long as the Himalayas are there and the rivers are allowed their seasonal flooding. Get to know your deltas, how they are formed and what keeps them there. good luck.

Stephen Skinner
July 15, 2010 1:13 pm

David says:
July 13, 2010 at 7:40 am
“Schiphol airport is 7 metres below sea level and increasing. (meaning more below)”
According to aviation charts Schiphol is 11′ (just under 3.5 metres). Why exagerate and please can you show by measurment that Schiphol is sinking or sea level rising?
“By contrast, Greenland’s isostatic rise, because of melting, is now about 5cm/year and accellerating.”
I have to consider your last exageration in requesting to see the same information. By contrast to this in 1942 a squadron of 8 planes crash landed on the Greenland ice cap. The planes were located in the 1992 under 80 metres of ice!
If Greenland is losing ice where did the 80 metres of ice/snow come from?

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