I swear, I had nothing to do with this. Speaking tonight in Canberra, details here. Weather records for Sydney here.
From the “weather is not climate department”:
Sydney recorded its coldest June morning today since 1949, with temperatures diving to 4.3 degrees just before 6:00am (AEST).
Cold snap set to stay By Amy Simmons
Experts say it is unusual to see such widespread cold weather in June. (User submitted photo: Rick Box)
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People across south-east Australia are complaining about unusually chilly temperatures and experts say there will be no relief from the cold until Sunday at the earliest.
From Brisbane this morning, Miss7t7 wrote on Twitter “Still in bed, so dam cold.. What’s going on Brisbane !!!!”. While in Melbourne, lexandraKR tweeted “Waiting for frostbite to set in… Sooo cold in Melbourne! Too scared to get out of bed incase I get hypothermia”.
Others are embracing the weather and urging those who are complaining to toughen up.
“I am in love with this cold weather. Melbourne reminds me of Paris at the moment. How can that be a bad thing?” wrote hannahjtoy. “Is it seriuosly newsworthy that sydney temps are in the low single digits? seriuosly? it not cold! suck it up!” FilthiAssistant tweeted.
But ABC weather specialist Graham Creed says people’s complaints are justified.
“It’s definitely quite unusual to see such widespread cold weather in June, it would be more typical in July and August,” he said.
“So people are complaining about the cold for a good reason.”
Mr Creed says most areas across the south-east are experiencing temperatures well below average.
“Last weekend a cool change moved through and that introduced some significantly colder air across most of south-east Australia,” he said.
“Quickly in behind that we had a high pressure ridge move through, producing clear skies during both the day and the night, but it’s also helping to trap that cold air in.
“The clear skies mean we are losing what little daytime heating there is and overnight temperatures are dropping into the minuses through many of those states, producing widespread frosts.
“On top of that we’ve got quite a breeze in certain areas and the air is very dry so that’s producing very low wind chill, so not only is the sun not providing much warmth, you’ve also got the assistance of the wind making it feel colder than it actually is.”
He says Queensland is in for a particularly rough few days, as widespread rainfall will see the conditions change from cold and sunny to cold, cloudy and wet.
Yesterday, an icy blast through Adelaide brought enough rain to supply the city for a month, with a hail storm capping off the exceptionally wintry day.
Yesterday was also the coldest day in Melbourne in nearly two years, with the city not reaching its maximum temperature of 10.8 degrees Celsius until 7:55pm (AEST).
If the temperature in Melbourne fails to hit its forecast maximum today, it will be the first time in 14 years the city has recorded three consecutive days of temperatures below 12 degrees.
Last night Brisbane was coldest at 9:00pm (AEST), when the mercury dropped to below 8 degrees, but experts say it will be even cooler tonight.
Sydney recorded its coldest June morning today since 1949, with temperatures diving to 4.3 degrees just before 6:00am (AEST).
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Alarmists will have a hard time blaming our cold nights on aerosols … I would have thought that they should keep nights warmer. Clear skies mean greater radiant heat loss on a still night, ( despite the overhanging trees …
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/sydney_wxstation2.jpg )
JP says:
June 30, 2010 at 12:50 pm
[–SNIP–]
“I have no problem with the satellite soundings. But the soundings go back to only 1979. Big deal. I never get excited about the “coldest Sept or the Warmest Feb since…” because true climate science looks at time periods much long than 30 years. If one wants to be truthfull, it one should look at periods that go back 200-400 years.”
[–SNIP–]
“So when an Alarmists posts that 2010 was warmest year ever, what they really mean is that 2010 was the warmest year since 1979. And even then, there are many caveats.”
It’s interesting how much steam has run out of the Alarmist’s narrative. They are essientially relegated to chasing monthly Artic ice anomalies.
VILLABOLO SAYS:
Concerning your point about taking 200-400 years worth of data have you by any chance heard of ice core samples?
As for AGWs running out of steam I’ve heard them say the same thing about Skeptics. From what I have seen, without any taking their word for it, there is obviously a paradigm shift occuring amongst Skeptics. At least on this site it seems that they are shifting from “The Arctic Will Regrow” to “It’s Normal For the Arctic to Be Ice Free Every Once In While, and it Does No Harm”.
Since, in my not so humble opinion, I believe that the Arctic Ice Cap will be ice free during Summer, Global Cooling, Anthropogenic or Natural, is definitely not going to be all the rage. For those particular Skeptics who don’t suffer from Orwellian Amnesia it will be the ultimate embarrassment.
Since you like to predict what will happen in 20 years let me put my two cents in.
1) Arctic Ice Cap 90% ice free during the Summer by 2015-2020. There will be a remaining band of ice hugging the northern parts of Canada that will cling for dear life, not wanting to die. This would be due to their being over shallow colder waters that will take longer to warm up.
2) The process of the ice cap will not open up instantly throughout the entire Summer but in stages. Perhaps, at first, it will be open for a few days. Then later for a few weeks progressing to months. How long this progression will take I have no idea.
3) Since we are always getting La Ninas, this situation could reverse itself temporarily. I therefore predict that many will be celebrating as if it were 2008&2009.
4) I predict “Natural Global Warming” will be the official position of the Koch brothers and company.
[no disparaging other commenters please ~ ctm]
villabolo says:
June 30, 2010 at 12:32 pm
[–snip–]
VILLABOLO RESPONDS:
No, they weren’t dead silent. There was no need to specify Mongolia when AGW were emphasizing the entire colder than usual region which was only a small fraction of the entire Earth.
First, Mongolia is a cold desert. Second, the colder than average temperatures during the Winter of 2009/2010 affected up to 15% of the Earth’s surface area. The other 85% was in the typical range for Global Warming.
No mention of poorly sited weather stations.
Why do you keep avoiding the obvious?
KADAKA SAYS:
Weather is not climate unless weather is climate change. This is cold, therefore it is not climate change, therefore it is just weather.
🙂
So what?
So I guess that would be about 40 degrees? How many kilos or stone would that be, about half a kilometer?
DirkH says:
June 30, 2010 at 1:05 pm
villabolo says:
June 30, 2010 at 12:32 pm
“[…]
There was no need to specify Mongolia when AGW were emphasizing the entire colder than usual region which was only a small fraction of the entire Earth.[…]”
What do you mean with “AGW were emphasizing the entire colder than usual region”? Do you mean that Mongolia only appeared so cold because it was so hot everywhere else?
VILLABOLO RESPONDS:
Dirk, I specifically stated, right below the quote you present, that 15% of the Earth was colder than usual. Mongolia is not 15% of the Earth.
I am referring to a band (roughly speaking because it changed shape daily), that was colder than usual, positioned right below the Antarctic and most of Canada (at times).
From north to south it went from the Canadian border (often times) to somewhat south of Cuba. Then going eastward it would cover Europe and proceed to Russia, Siberia, parts of China and Mongolia, then southwest Canada completing the circuit.
This unusual situation where basically the Arctic region (10F above average) and the band I just described occurred because of a weather phenomenon called Negative Arctic Oscillation. It could, in simple terms, be described as the Arctic hurling more of its frigid air than usual and at the same time sucking in warm air from regions south.
It’s worth noting that the Arctic was hurling most of its frigid air south. It was not COLDER than usual as most people would assume.
This Negative Arctic Oscillation did not go further down than just below Cuba and it certainly did not reach the Equator let alone effect the Southern Hemisphere.
while Australia ‘freezes’ (memories of copenhagen?):
30 June: Brisbane Times: When ocean views get a little too close
The government should provide special loans to people who lose their homes to rising sea levels caused by climate change, a leading economist says.
The idea has been floated at the Climate Adaptation Futures Conference on the Gold Coast, which has attracted nearly 1000 delegates from around the world.
Economist Dr Leo Dobes, from The Australian National University in Canberra, says the time will come when people are forced to retreat from areas which will be flooded or eroded as our oceans rise….
(Donovan Burton from the National Climate Change Adaptation Research Facility ) “If we move (them) inland too far we have to deal with issues like heat stress, and with 25 per cent of Australia’s population going to be over the age of 65 by 2030 and more heatwave events predicted, it’s going to be a challenging task.”
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/environment/when-ocean-views-get-a-little-too-close-20100630-zlwz.html
30 June: ABC: Flannery urges Govt to push carbon reduction scheme
Former Australian of the Year, Professor Tim Flannery, has told delegates at the Climate Adaptation Futures conference on Queensland’s Gold Coast that it is vital a carbon pollution reduction scheme (CPRS) is introduced.
Federal Climate Change Minister Penny Wong has called for scientists to help build a consensus for a price on carbon but Professor Flannery says the Government must also argue the case…
“If we don’t get the CPRS in place there is a risk that adaptation will become just unmanageable,” he said.
“The changes will be so big we won’t be able to adapt. ..
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/30/2940783.htm
CORRECTION!:
IN MY PREVIOUS POST OF JUNE 30, 2010 2;48 PM I MADE REFERENCE, IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH OF MY RESPONSE, TO “ANTARCTICA” WHEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN “THE ARCTIC”
My bad. 🙁
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/06/30/record-cold-down-under/#comment-420503
1st of July here in NZ.
Our government has today, despite almost total opposition from the people of NZ, implemented an all-gasses, all-sectors Emissions Trading Scheme. In doing so, the governemnt has been able to fund domestic wealth transfer from consumers to Maori forrestry interests thereby shoring up their electoral coalition. The NZ government has also set itself up for a windfall from state-owned power generators as prices rise to sustain ETS costs. It is a scam. It is broken election promises. It is a dark day for NZ.
In Adelaide, until 29 June our weather reports were full of doom and gloom mentions that we were well below the June rainfall average. Then, on 30 June, we had enough to exceed the average. The weather report then stated that Adelaide is still below the 6 month average.
I always thought that an average was a figure created from measurements above and below it. We seem to be more than happy to accept rainfall above the average but it’s disaster when below. However, when we look at temperatures, readings above the average are bad but not those below, as with the current cold temps as this will be claimed to be ‘weather’, not climate.
I’m confused.
No one believed me when I told them it was the Sun stupid.
Not knowing precisely how your government operates down under, allow me this: Short of not actually repealing that machination (ETS), you should have your government tax the power companies at the same rate as your increase, and then have those increases rebated back to you, either directly or through tax breaks.
A tax break is scheduled, as it happens.
Carbon tax on power generation and fuel use in New Zealand is a non-issue. Almost all our carbon fuel is imported. Anything that reduces our reliance on imported petrol is a good thing.
NZ electricity generation is mostly hydro, with a bit of geothermal. Houses are heated by electricity, sometimes wood. Coal and oil are almost never used to heat homes. We have very little heavy coal or oil consuming industries. (The same scheme in Australia would have a very different effect, since they have so little hydro.)
The big deal with the ETS is the taxing of farming. That is where we have an economic advantage over the rest of the world, and where the ETS could hurt us badly. The farming case is sadly weakened because farmers are doing very well economically at the moment, with high commodity prices.
So ETS will barely effect most of us in the towns, and the farmers are already wealthy. Hence the scheme could be pushed through.
We may think it is cold in Sydney but wait until they have ‘adjusted and corrected’ the figures – it will no doubt prove that this was the warmest June ever.
Harvard University have given their name to the usual climate alarmist stories, while the investment manager for Harvard University has around a billion dollars invested in New Zealand’s forests, thus obtaining millions of dollars in carbon credits from the NZ Emissions Trading Scheme that became operative today, 1 July 2010.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aNxW1iyn095E
Harvard Says Kidney Stones, Malaria Are Climate Risks
http://www.nzsuperfund.co.nz/news.asp?pageID=2145831983&RefID=2141733114
The New Zealand Superannuation Fund announced today [31 October 2006] that it has entered into an agreement with Harvard Management Company (Harvard) to acquire a minority interest in the Kaingaroa forest estate for approximately NZ$300 million. Harvard will retain ownership of the majority of the estate. Property management will continue to be undertaken by Timberlands Limited, based in Rotorua.
Kaingaroa is an estate of approximately 170,000 hectares of cutting rights to plantation forest located in the Central North Island of New Zealand. The bulk of the timber is Radiata Pine, with a small quantity of Douglas Fir. The combination of high rates of growth, flat topography, and close proximity to numerous timber mills plus the Port of Tauranga make Kaingaroa one of the premier timber estates in the world.
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Harvard Management Company is the investment manager for Harvard University.
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At June 30, 2006, the Harvard endowment was valued at US$29.2 billion. Timberland investments currently represent just over 4% of that total. [US$1.2 billion]
Mooloo says:
June 30, 2010 at 3:57 pm
“A tax break is scheduled, as it happens.
Carbon tax on power generation and fuel use in New Zealand is a non-issue. Almost all our carbon fuel is imported. Anything that reduces our reliance on imported petrol is a good thing.”
Actually the tax break is completely unrelated to the ETS.
I guess you are unaware of the Oil fields off Taranaki that are just starting to come on-line and the ones proposed in Hawkes Bay.
Also seem unaware of the coal we export to China.
“So ETS will barely effect most of us in the towns, and the farmers are already wealthy. Hence the scheme could be pushed through.”
Guess the scheduled power and fuel price rises that are planned (and have been predicted in the media) will catch you by surprise then.
At a recent Logging expo there was a presentation by someone representing the wood fuel pellet industry. He went through all the usual AGW BS at the start of his presentation (Polar bear on the usual melting ice berg etc.)
He also went through the process to create these enviro-friendly pellets. The pellets are debarked, dried, ground up & compressed trees. (Nothing more or less)
The contention is that they are much better for the environment than burning wood as they produce much less ash- apparently the bark produces that.
However, the pellet creation process involves drying the wood chips (wet chips are shipped 80km from Rotorua to Taupo because Taupo has a drier at its plant, whilst already dry chips are shipped in the opposite direction to the dry chip only plant in Rotorua). When the chips are compressed this raises the temperature of the chips to about 80C, meaning they have to be cooled.
I (amongst many others in the audience) was left wondering how much pollution (let alone any C02 emissions) was produced by the process, and how much could be saved by just burning the wood the old fashioned way!
I guess Solomon was right- everything under the sun is folly!
I’m in Sydney. Getting into bed is an unsavoury experience. I’m currently working late, and slipping between the sheets in the small hours is like getting into a refrigerator.
Yup, it’s record-breakingly cold in Sydney, and we know that when record cold days happen somewhere around the world, global warming must be a hoax.
However, there’s a little fly in that ointment. The number of record-breaking hot days far outweigh cold in cities around the world.
http://www.mherrera.org/temp.htm
And that has been the case annually since the inception of that website in 2002.
http://www.mherrera.org/records.htm
barry says:
“However, there’s a little fly in that ointment. The number of record-breaking hot days far outweigh cold in cities around the world.”
Yes, there’s a fly in the ointment. But it isn’t the one you’re imagining.
[PS: my condolences on the frigid weather there. I recommend an electric blanket. Don’t forget to purchase the requisite carbon offsets!]
Smokey, that site covers about 1600 cities and towns around the world. Anthony points out that his post is a weather, not climate report. My reply was in general to the commenters here that seem to see a climatic significance in the abnormally cold weather of one city.
But perhaps you’re referring to UHI? Never mind that the effect is minimal, as shown at various skeptic websites recently (The Air Vent, Lucia’s), it would appear from the few data points referred to in the top post that Sydney has bucked the imagined trend, eh?
If you have a comprehensive list of rural sites that displays record-breaking weather over time, by all means substantiate whatever it is you’re implying. However, I seem to remember a post not too long ago at WUWT showing a stronger heat island trend in small towns than in the cities. Fortunately, there aren’t any cities or towns in the seas, at the North Pole or in space (satellite record), so we’ve non-city/town data to peruse and these all show warming. It’s statistically very likely that we’ll see the same results of record-breaking hot weather for cities as any other broad data set. I don’t see how you’re going to find data that supports whatever it is you’re hinting at.
Unless you zero in on a few cold data points in a city or two. 🙂
Thanks for the condolences. Bon mots are always appreciated. Luckily, I don’t suffer the cold as I used to, and I believe that’s come about from a thickening of the skin.
Barry,
Based on your last comments, I’d love to have a beer with you. Thick skin and all.☺
Cheers. 🙂
Off Topic: But a damn fine interview with Anthony at http://www.quadrant.org.au/blogs/doomed-planet/2010/06/anthony-watts-interviewed
That’s OK, the cold will help keep the funnel web and redback spider populations down!! The upside of global cooling = less critters.
Why is the AAO so positive?
http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/aao/aao_index.html