Record cold down under

I swear, I had nothing to do with this. Speaking tonight in Canberra, details here. Weather records for Sydney here.

From the “weather is not climate department”:

Sydney recorded its coldest June morning today since 1949, with temperatures diving to 4.3 degrees just before 6:00am (AEST).

Cold snap set to stay By Amy Simmons

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Experts say it is unusual to see such widespread cold weather in June. (User submitted photo: Rick Box)

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People across south-east Australia are complaining about unusually chilly temperatures and experts say there will be no relief from the cold until Sunday at the earliest.

From Brisbane this morning, Miss7t7 wrote on Twitter “Still in bed, so dam cold.. What’s going on Brisbane !!!!”. While in Melbourne, lexandraKR tweeted “Waiting for frostbite to set in… Sooo cold in Melbourne! Too scared to get out of bed incase I get hypothermia”.

Others are embracing the weather and urging those who are complaining to toughen up.

“I am in love with this cold weather. Melbourne reminds me of Paris at the moment. How can that be a bad thing?” wrote hannahjtoy. “Is it seriuosly newsworthy that sydney temps are in the low single digits? seriuosly? it not cold! suck it up!” FilthiAssistant tweeted.

But ABC weather specialist Graham Creed says people’s complaints are justified.

“It’s definitely quite unusual to see such widespread cold weather in June, it would be more typical in July and August,” he said.

“So people are complaining about the cold for a good reason.”

Mr Creed says most areas across the south-east are experiencing temperatures well below average.

“Last weekend a cool change moved through and that introduced some significantly colder air across most of south-east Australia,” he said.

“Quickly in behind that we had a high pressure ridge move through, producing clear skies during both the day and the night, but it’s also helping to trap that cold air in.

“The clear skies mean we are losing what little daytime heating there is and overnight temperatures are dropping into the minuses through many of those states, producing widespread frosts.

“On top of that we’ve got quite a breeze in certain areas and the air is very dry so that’s producing very low wind chill, so not only is the sun not providing much warmth, you’ve also got the assistance of the wind making it feel colder than it actually is.”

He says Queensland is in for a particularly rough few days, as widespread rainfall will see the conditions change from cold and sunny to cold, cloudy and wet.

Yesterday, an icy blast through Adelaide brought enough rain to supply the city for a month, with a hail storm capping off the exceptionally wintry day.

Yesterday was also the coldest day in Melbourne in nearly two years, with the city not reaching its maximum temperature of 10.8 degrees Celsius until 7:55pm (AEST).

If the temperature in Melbourne fails to hit its forecast maximum today, it will be the first time in 14 years the city has recorded three consecutive days of temperatures below 12 degrees.

Last night Brisbane was coldest at 9:00pm (AEST), when the mercury dropped to below 8 degrees, but experts say it will be even cooler tonight.

Sydney recorded its coldest June morning today since 1949, with temperatures diving to 4.3 degrees just before 6:00am (AEST).

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Kate

We are on the green road to hell.
Want to “Save the planet”? No more toast for you, then.
Stop using toasters, islanders are told.
Residents of a Scottish island that claims to be the world’s greenest have been told to cut their power use because a shortage of rain is starving its hydro-electric generators. Renewable energy usually provides Eigg, in the Inner Hebrides, with 92% of its electricity, but it has not had any significant rain since May.
The 70 or so islanders have been warned to avoid using power-hungry appliances such as toasters in case demand for power makes their back-up diesel generators chug into life.
In January, the community won a £300,000 prize to spend on projects which reduce carbon emissions. (They can’t manage to say “carbon dioxide”)
You heard it here first. In the new “low carbon” economy you can only have toast if it has been raining.

Michael in Sydney

I work outdoors at Balmoral Beach and start work at 6:00am – it was bloody freezing!
Please please give me a little bit of global warming:)

But it can’t be anything to do with the sun being quiet… nononononononono
Cold winters 2008-9 2009-10 Quiet sun – long minimum, cycle 24 flops.
Cold winters 1970’s low solar cycle
Cold winters 1900-1914 low solar cycles
Cold winters 1800-1820 very low solar cycles
Cold winters 1600’s very few sunspots seen for 50 years – Thames and Rhine freeze.

H

Here in Port Macquarie (31 degrees south on the east coast of NSW) I used a hose to wash the frost/ice off the car this morning. It didn’t work. So I scraped it off with my credit card and my daughter (7) was so excited to see the “snow”! We have reasonably regular frosts but this one was pretty heavy for us. I just hope my mango trees survive. Up in Glen Innes, in the great dividing range west of here, I understand it went down to -10.

John Gorter

It is pretty cold here in Perth WA as well – Anthony you may recall when you were here last Sunday we’d just experienced -0.6 C. Rain predicted tomorrow and temperature will be just above freezing again in parts of Perth. Wonder if there will be flurries of snow on the Darling Range?
John Gorter

Nick

What ‘record cold’? Nothing here has broken an all-time record yet.You do recall that Melbourne experienced its longest ever duration of consecutive daily maxima of 20C or more-123 days-over the last summer and autumn. Previous record was 78 days in 2007/8. April 2009 to April 2010 in Victoria and Tasmania was their warmest 12 months for that period since records began.
What about the northern African/Middle eastern heatwave,eh? Pheew…

Michael Lewis

Brrrr! Living in a ninety year old house in Sydney, near the sea, (over optimistically) designed for a warm climate – with added winter ocean warmth -but with insufficient heating (nice in summer thankyou), but stll warmer than those parts further inland, one lies in bed at midnight, scrunched up against the cold – watching the tennis at Wimbledon – in 30 degreeC heat. Coldwave vs heatwave!

Gerard

Kyneton (500m Elevation) in Central Victoria is usually cold in winter but Monday was exceptionally cold starting out at -4.5 and with a max of 7.1, yesterday was even colder with a max of 5.1 brrr with strong northerly winds most unusual as the cold winds generally come from the south. I say thank God for global warming otherwise it would be really cold!

CodeTech

I’m not buying it.
They’re saying the clear skies overnight are the cause for losing daytime heating. But… we all know that clouds, being merely water, can’t possibly hold in heat. Not only that, but we also all know that CO2 is a much more effective blanket, holding in heat.
So, ignore the thermometer (climatologists do, and what’s good for them is good for me) and realize that this is actually a sign of a nearing tipping point of hyper-global heating.

geronimo

Nick: “What ‘record cold’? Nothing here has broken an all-time record yet.You do recall that Melbourne experienced its longest ever duration of consecutive daily maxima of 20C or more-123 days-over the last summer and autumn. Previous record was 78 days in 2007/8. April 2009 to April 2010 in Victoria and Tasmania was their warmest 12 months for that period since records began.
What about the northern African/Middle eastern heatwave,eh? Pheew”
You’re not gettin this are you Nick? Well that’s not surprising because the words climate change have been confated with global warming. Climate is always changing, up and down, more precipitation, less precipitation, warming cooling etc. What the warmists have been doing is pointing to every weather event as signs of global warming, Hurricane Katrina, the European 2005 heatwave etc. Then it went cold, and suddenly weather ceased to be an omen of global warming it became, well, weather not climate. They’re just rubbing it in, you know highlighting that if there weren’t these record lows the heatwave in the Middle East would have been touted as the result of GHG emissions, it’s a bit difficult to do that if you have simultaneous record lows. Hope this has clarified it for you.

Roy Martin

Bulletin from Melbourne:
Yes, it is cold, but the good part is that it is also raining. Sixteen wet days in here in June.
Folks, this is just like the ‘real’ winters I remember from my childhood during the 1930’s and through early adulthood in the 1950’s.
We might have to get used to it again after the drier and milder conditions that have prevailed since the 1997/8 El Nino. This could be the start of the colder period that many, like tallbloke, are predicting might result from a persistently quieter Sun.

Neil Jones

To those in Australia feel the cold from one who lives in Switzerland.
Try the Swiss “cure” for cold weather, – Eat melted Cheese! Fondue, Raclette, Spätzli (Fried pasta with melted cheese) etc. It’s the one culinary contribution the Swiss made to the world. Not very imaginative, but it sure keeps the cold out, even at -15C daytime temp.

Dave N

I haven’t checked the records, but it seems a colder June here in Adelaide than it has been for many years as well.. I also note over at Chiefio’s, the coffee in Brazil is iced.
Weather isn’t climate, but climate is weather 🙂

Old Goat

I fail to comprehend why, when the “models” and Joe Bastardi appear to agree that we’re in for a prolonged major cooling, there are no screaming headlines in the mainstream media to that effect. The powers that be and their spokesmen are still blithely prattling on about low carbon this and that, “saving” the planet for our grandchildren, etc., etc,. whilst all the time Mr. Planet carries on as he’s always done in his cyclical way, regardless of all these stupid human efforts to tame him.
All the signs and portents for cold are there, but they’re being ignored, when the world at large SHOULD be being warned and given assistance to prepare. Instead of which, the truth is being kept very quiet. What happens over the next few years, and it gets progressively cooler, and governments are totally unprepared, spurning proper generation capacity in favour of useless wind and solar farms?
Surely governments are not that stupid to not believe what is so evidently happening?
I’m a mere layman, and I can see the writing on the wall, why can’t they?
Or is it it one gigantic conspiracy after all? And if so, what happens when everything we suspect will occur, comes to pass? What will these charlatans have achieved, other than total world poverty? And will they be permitted to get away with it?
Why are they preparing for one unlikely eventuality, when it’s so obvious that the opposite scenario is just around the corner.
It sends shivers down my spine. Is this the level of madnes that those governing us have descended to? It’s not as though they’re all going to make a mint out of carbon trading and promoting windmills, and escape somewhere safe whilst we all suffer – they, too, will still have to exist somewhere, and hopefully will suffer the same predicament eventually.
I’m just gobsmacked at some of the rubbish spouted by Lord this, or Lord that on the TV and radio, about how we all need to cut carbon emissions, and those interviewing them never bother to question the whole idea, they just blandly accept everything they’re told.
Have we become some sort of dangerous, subversive intelligentsia under-class, now labelled “deniers”? If so, it speaks volumes about those who “believe”. I was always under the impression that a civilised world was basically a more sensible one, but it would appear that the reverse is true.
It’ll soon be far too late for “told you so’s”

brokenhockeystick

Its so cold because its getting warmer…surely? Simples

boy on a bike

My bike computer told me is was 3 degrees here in Sydney just before 7am. I believed it – halfway into work, I thought my ears were going to snap off.

Gerard

Nick: “What ‘record cold’? Nothing here has broken an all-time record yet.You do recall that Melbourne experienced its longest ever duration of consecutive daily maxima of 20C or more-123 days-over the last summer and autumn. Previous record was 78 days in 2007/8. April 2009 to April 2010 in Victoria and Tasmania was their warmest 12 months for that period since records began.
Nick, Nick, Nick, have you heard about UHI effect. Check out the location of Melbourne’s weather station in Victoria Street. Melbourne has developed a little since it was established and this would account for the run of above 20 degree days last summer. It certainly wasn’t the case in the outer suburbs!

Stephen Wilde

tallbloke said:
“Cold winters 1970′s low solar cycle.”
Well yes, cycle 20 was lower than cycles 19 and 21, 22 and 23 but the trouble is that it was still pretty active in historical terms. Also cycle 19 was the highest but still the globe was cooling.
That’s pretty much why long ago I decided one really needed to introduce another factor and I chose the oceanic oscillations because they were negative during high cycles 19 and 20 but positive for cycles 21, 22 and 23 which served to fit the observations very nicely.
So it’s the solar / oceanic interplay that gives the best fit and then there’s those other pesky ‘coincidences’ of a cooling stratosphere and falling ozone levels and positive polar oscillations with more poleward jets all happening at the same time as the more active sun and all going into reverse from the late 90s as the solar activity levels dropped after the peak of cycle 23.
It’s no longer a matter of whether solar influences are significant but how such small changes in raw power output from the sun can produce so many simultaneous effects on our energy budget and atmospheric chemistry with substantial climate consequences despite the much more powerful oceanic effects.
That’s what we need to resolve.

Glenn

Loving the cold, but as a Canberran, it comes with the territory. A long string of sub-zero nights, very frosty mornings and dry conditions. Brilliant! To anyone who can’t take it, HTFU!
Not at the talk this evening because, well, 6.30pm is a very un-family friendly time to run stuff. :/

roger

Fingers of cold reach westwards across the Pacific and northwards from Antarctica relentlessly marching on towards an Australia already suffering at the hands of the England Cricket Team.
The Atlantic cools in sympathy and we await the first hurricane of the forecast active season.
The one bright spot for trolls, who are akin to lizards in their love of warmth, is the warm anomaly off Greenland, Where Gaia, having moved El Nino heat northwards in a mocking display of humour, keeps their hopes and witterings alive in a last attack on the sea ice summer minimum, before she punishes us all for having the temerity to suppose that we might forecast and control the complexities of climate.
http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.html

Louis Hissink

Here in Newman, Pilbara region of Western Australia, it is………cold, but this is normal for this time of the year in a desert environment.
Usually a snap cold event has previously been associated with Al Gore, but as he has been somewhat quiet these weeks, might he be secretly hiding in Oz?

TomFP

I have a couple of questions, and I’m hoping the more scientifically-literate of you can spare a moment to help:
1. Can anyone point me to a graphical synopsis of all the various model “predictions” that lie behind the “consensus” on CAGW, plotting also the instrumental record, for comparison? It would be quite interesting to start the series early enough to include the “global cooling” predictions.
2. One of the difficulties faced by proponents of CAGW theory is surely in dealing with the “weather isn’t climate” issue. As I understand it CAGW postulates a “tipping point” whereat the pace of climate change would accelerate at such a pace that “climate” would indeed begin to vary on a timescale similar to “weather”. Sceptics seem to be at no such disadvantage, and may fairly point to the failure of the climate to warm over a short timescale as disconfirmation of CAGW, while equally fairly dismissing hot weather as evidence of a warming climate. Have I got this right? If not, why not?

old construction worker

The “Al Gore Effect” must be gaining strength. I understand he’s in California.

MattB

I swear, I had nothing to do with this. Speaking tonight in Canberra, details here. Weather records for Sydney here.
Dont worry Anthony, your power is to control sunspot activity by use of negative feedback, Al Gore is the one that brings in cold snap’s (unless there is a massage therapist nearby, alegedly 🙂 ). So unless you invited Al down for a talk, the cold cannot be your fault.

Ulric Lyons

It is to be expected around the solstices that polar and high lattitude temperatures will be going the opposite directions at each pole. At the equinoxes, they move in unison.
I was talking with Piers about this happening recently, with the heat waves we have been getting in the N.Hemisphere, I was anticipating much cooler weather in the South of Australia, but not the North;
http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/temp/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=minanom&period=week&area=nat
http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/temp/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=maxanom&period=week&area=nat

Annabelle

My brother lives in Australia and he tells me the greens are blaming the cold on global warming!

Joe Lalonde

Funny how quiet reporting is on colder temperatures, flooding and other parts of what is happening in other areas of the world. Unless it is sensationalism on CO2 warming the planet or effecting all manner of things.
Big push on carbon taxes and carbon credit schemes, green this and green that.
All this attention has taken away the research into what should be important and corrupted our knowledge base for generations. Secure professors teaching garbage science is the biggest mistake our society is pushing on our young and generating new politicians and scientists with closed minds to any other causes or science.
Like minded people are in the peer-review control and will only allow further garbage science to be published to protect the system that has been created.

RexAlan

I love your “Swiss Cure” Neil apart from tha fat and cholestoral, but then that’s supposed to be bad for us as well. Can we ever win!

Sun Spot

Southern Ontario Canada, we were to have a hot dry summer due to El Nino, instead it’s cold and wet. We have nothing to fear from a little warming and everything to fear from a little cooling like the Maunder Min.

Paul R

I love it, I work outside in South East Queensland and to me this is heaven. We have our hot humid Summers here that don’t seem to want to end so It’s nice to have a cold spell to punctuate our winter. I’m not sure who’s to blame but our climate is very old and Mr Watts just got here.

J.Hansford

Bluddy freezing up here in Tropical Nth Qld too!….. 28C durin’ th’ day and a freezing 16C at night…. If it keeps this up I’ll probably have to put a shirt on….. 😉

From the beginning of June towards the middle of June we had one of the coldest spells in 15 years here in South Africa. There was even snow on Table Mountain in Cape Town. The snow on the other mountains was unusually lower than the normal snow line. Pipes in people’s homes here in Johannesburg and Pretoria froze up as well during the night. That usually does not happen until late in July. So now you know what I am going to do: I have to take more precautionary measures against the cold! I think it will get colder still.

Geoff Larsen

Sydney recorded its coldest June morning today since 1949, with temperatures diving to 4.3 degrees just before 6:00am (AEST).
Eh Anthony you’re not big Al in disguise are you?
As they live so close to the ocean in Sydney I never thought I would have the opportunity to show my grandchildren frost icicles on their front lawn.

Richard111

Clear nights? Temperatures dropping? Where’s this greenhouse effect?

Bob in Castlemaine

Anthony
It’s been cold here in central Victoria, on Monday 28 June we had ice on our bird bath and stock water until midday. I heard also that the lake at the Castlemaine Botanical Gardens was frozen over. We should also be mindful that these Melbourne and Sydney’s lows come despite the impact of UHI. But as you state in your caveat “weather is not climate”.
Thanks to you and David Archibald for your interesting presentations at Ballarat on 26 June. This note is a follow-up to my comments then about the University of Melbourne (UOM) UHI study. I must express my embarrassment at the insulting tirade from the warmist zealot in the audience, so ably handled with dignity by both of you.
A comment by Geoff Sherrington June 24, 2010 at 5:24 am to Willis Eschenbach’s post “Before One Has Data” dated 24 June, 2010 includes a link to a study of the influence of UHI on temperatures in Melbourne, Australia here. This study (a precis) includes the usual disclaimers reaffirming the climate change message, but it also includes some interesting information about over night minimum temperatures across urban Melbourne:
Using a dataset complied from twice daily observations from 1985 to 1994 from weather stations maintained by the Victorian Environmental Protection Authority and the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, results indicate that just prior to sunrise the CBD and IS are on average 4.0 deg C warmer during the summer months and 3.2 deg C warmer during the winter months. Interestingly over the 10 year period the summer months indicated that the CBD was the warmest area, whilst during the winter months the industrial area of Dandenong was 0.3 deg C warmer than the CBD.
These values for the UHI represent its average intensity during all of the weather events between 1985 and 1994. The values have been adjusted to a reference level to account for the effects of topography. The study has also found that the UHI is most pronounced when the wind speed in the CBD and at the airport is less than 3 m/s. On some occasions when there is little or no cloud and wind speeds below 1.5 m/s the heat island may be as high as 10 deg C around midnight. During very windy evenings the heat normally retained by the urban area is dispersed more easily which results in a smaller difference in temperature between the CBD and the outer suburbs.

The final paragraph explains that
The plot above shows the 1985-94 Summer Mean Minimum Potential Temperature contours for Melbourne. This plot shows a UHI of 1.81 deg C, which is determined by subtracting the average value of Melbourne and Laverton airports from the average value of the three inner city sites of Melbourne, Paisley and Alphington. The peak in the contours is located over Melbourne’s CBD. The key shows a UHI of 2.0 deg C, with a contour interval of 0.1 deg C.
The sites selected to establish a rural comparative temperature reference, Laverton Airport (presumably Laverton RAAF, location -37.8565, 144.7566) and Melbourne Airport (location -37.6655, 144.8321), appear somewhat compromised in their suitability for the purpose. As pointed out in the comments to the above mentioned WUWT post, Laverton RAAF is within Melbourne’s urban fringe and is likely to have been UHI corrupted even 16 years ago when temperature data for this study was recorded. Melbourne Airport is the city’s main international and domestic airport carrying very heavy traffic; the weather station is located approximately 100 metres from a main taxiway where temperature data would almost certainly have been corrupted by the effects of jet exhausts. However, it should be acknowledged that for such a study utilising static temperature recording points clearly it is difficult to obtain suitable rural reference temperature data due to the conflicting needs of minimising corruption due to UHI, and yet remaining close enough to be relevant to the urban area under study. But the study does perhaps indicate that while UOM/BOM and their ilk attempt to play down the significance of UHI, in reality they are the real “deniers” being well aware of just how much it has distorted the ground based planetary temperature record.

Neil Jones

“RexAlan says:
June 30, 2010 at 4:23 am
I love your “Swiss Cure” Neil apart from tha fat and cholestoral, but then that’s supposed to be bad for us as well. Can we ever win!”
The fat insulates and burns off over the winter, they clear the cholesterol with quantities of Scnapps ( of various flavours) or so they tell me.

maz2

O/T.
What about Up Over?
What’s a “bergs”?
“Sea ice will continue to be too much of a complicating factor for some time to come, Lasserre said. Freeze-up and break-up is unpredictable. Even small bergs — called growlers — can slow down a cargo ship, ice-strengthened or not.”
>>> “In data that has since been circulated by organizations from the Arctic Council to NATO, he found the answer is: not much.”
…-
“Little interest in Arctic shipping
Survey: Most firms wouldn’t use route
By BOB WEBER The Canadian Press
Wed. Jun 30 – 4:54 AM
A recent survey is pouring cold water on the prospect of international shipping traffic steaming through Canada’s Northwest Passage despite visions that melting sea ice and longer periods of open water will turn the fabled waterway into a busy cargo route.
“These companies are really, really not interested in Arctic routes,” said Frederic Lasserre of Quebec’s Laval University. “It’s never going to be a Panama Canal.”
When Arctic sea ice dropped to record low levels in 2007, observers began to suggest that the Northwest Passage could offer a money-saving alternative to southern routes. The passage, many pointed out, could trim nearly 10,000 kilometres off common trips such as London-Yokohama or Rotterdam-Singapore.
Foreign policy experts in Canada and the United States were predicting commercial shipping was a matter of when, not if.
So Lasserre decided to ask the ones who send out the ships what they thought of the passage. In data that has since been circulated by organizations from the Arctic Council to NATO, he found the answer is: not much.
Lasserre contacted 125 shipping firms from Asia, Europe and North America and got responses from 34 companies representing 62 per cent of the market in 2008. Only 11 of them expressed any interest at all in shipping through the Northwest Passage.
Most of the interested firms were in North America. And most of those were already present in the North through efforts such as the annual sea lift of bulk supplies to northern communities.
Lasserre got similar results from a second, more extensive survey last summer. That survey suggested that resistance to the passage was strongest among companies focused on container shipping — the largest part of the market, but one that relies on dependable, accurate delivery times.
Only six out of 46 container shippers would even consider an Arctic route, the results suggested.
Sea ice will continue to be too much of a complicating factor for some time to come, Lasserre said. Freeze-up and break-up is unpredictable. Even small bergs — called growlers — can slow down a cargo ship, ice-strengthened or not.
“What the companies are selling is not merely transportation, it’s also schedules,” Lasserre said.”
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Canada/1189772.html

Bill Illis

NASA’s Earth Observatory page (whih has lots of different satellit measurements available) is showing there has been a substantial cool-down on Land during June.
This link will give you May’s temperature anomaly, but you can check off 8-day anomaly (June 18-25) or 1-day anomaly (1-day doesn’t give full coverage of the Earth so is not as useful) but there are also spreadsheets of the spatial anomalies available and the numbers are down a surprising amount as June has rolled-out. I’m not sure how accurate it is but southern Oz, is showing up cool: 3 or 4 or up to 7C below normal.
http://neo.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/Search.html?group=67

Richard_the_I

Always remember, and never forget:
Every temperature anomaly that is ever-s0-slightly above average is proof of global warming;
Whilst every weather event that is a record-setting, below normal temperature is normal fluctuation and has nothing whatsoever to do with climate.

Stephen Wilde says:
June 30, 2010 at 2:28 am (Edit)
It’s no longer a matter of whether solar influences are significant but how such small changes in raw power output from the sun can produce so many simultaneous effects on our energy budget and atmospheric chemistry with substantial climate consequences despite the much more powerful oceanic effects.
That’s what we need to resolve.

Its the clouds Stephen. Primarily anyway. If Svensmark is right, it’s the effect of increased GCR’s at times of lower solar activity. Shaviv’s work on using the oceans as a calorimeter is the bridge here.

Ulric Lyons

OMG, all the cold water on the planet is migrating towards the USA!
http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.html

Paul O'Brien

Any sighting of Al Gore?

Enneagram

Though someone corrected “wrong” satellites recording TSI back in 1989, actual temperatures did not change! (Oh, quite astonishing, nature doesn´t want to follow our intelligent models, made by US, quasi post normal bedwetter Semi-Gods!).
We can see all world records here:
http://www.mherrera.org/temp.htm

Henry@Stephen and Tallbloke
According to my books (which go back 40+ years) there has been no difference in the energy output from the sun as received on earth. I think the secret is in the effect of the sun on the clouds but not necessarily exclusively as Svensmark has put it. Who is – and where is Shaviv’s work? My theory is that the major cloudbanks (jets) who may carry (very) small amounts of iron in them may be influenced by magnetism to move either more towards the poles or more towards the equator – depending on what happens on the sun and how its magnetic field affects that of earth’s. Obviously, if they move more towards the equator, a larger amount of square area earth does not receive the full sunshine, hence the global cooling.

sHx

It is bloody freezing here, mate. Right now my electric heater is on full blast. To supplement it, I’ve turned on the oven with the door open. I keep thinking about that cartoon from the last Northern winter:
“-What do we want?
Global warming!
-When do we want it?
Now!”

Henry chance

Hide the decline. Joe Romm is scouring the lesser 48 and finding a record high temp or two. They were dead silent during the winter when thousands of cattle froze to death in Mongolia.

Ulric Lyons

@Henry Pool says:
“According to my books (which go back 40+ years) there has been no difference in the energy output from the sun as received on earth.”
Have you read this book? it only goes back a few years, but there is a great correlation between higher Solar wind velocity and warmer months. See how low the speed was during the last 2 winters, with big gaps in the appearance of coronal holes last winter, and a clear drop in the total number of holes for the last year or more. Conversely, look at some of the high values before 2008, bang on the really hot months.
I think it should be a best seller!

Ulric Lyons

Henry Pool says:
June 30, 2010 at 6:19 am
Link; http://www.solen.info/solar/coronal_holes.html

Good grief. These Ozzies are whining like a bunch of Kiwis!
44 (F) overnight here in Western Pennsylvania, in the Hemisphere where it’s supposed to be, you know, summer right now. Celebrated by liberating some carbon this morning, I did.

Stephen Wilde

tallbloke,
We’re agreed it’s the clouds primarily but then the issue is as to whether it is cosmic rays affecting quantities affecting albedo as per Svensmark or whether it is the solar variability influencing the latitudinal positioning of the clouds affecting albedo as per me. Possibly a combination.
Not convinced by Henry Pool’s suggestion involving an iron content in the clouds responding to solar magnetic changes. We need a mechanism that also covers changing temperature trends in the stratosphere and ideally but not necessarily changes in ozone quantities.
The best guess I can come up with at the moment is variability in the upward energy flux from the stratosphere responding to solar surface and hence solar wind variability but I’m open to plausible alternatives. Changes in the upward energy flux would affect the intensity of the temperature inversion at the tropopause to change the size position and intensity of the polar high pressure cells.