Haven’t had one in awhile. Too tired and cold (4C and raining in Ballarat) to do much else.
Keep it clean. Play nice.
Bonus picture regarding events of this week:
Image from the Oregonian, h/t to “Gore Lied“
Haven’t had one in awhile. Too tired and cold (4C and raining in Ballarat) to do much else.
Keep it clean. Play nice.
Bonus picture regarding events of this week:
Image from the Oregonian, h/t to “Gore Lied“
I wonder if Leif would be able or willing to comment on the graphs shown here (solar ones)
http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2010/06/ipcc-consensus-on-solar-influence-was.html
they show a clear cut solar effect on climate. Also on the way the IPCC has handled this.. Its scandalous.
Anthony: A critical, as in constructive, observation for your consideration.
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You are tired – it’s Ballarat 😉
REPLY: yeah when I’m tired I have trouble with L’s and R’s thx -A
Hope you take warm clothes with on your tour to Perth next week!
Perth’s cold snap chilliest in four years
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/perths-cold-snap-chilliest-in-four-years-jandakot-continues-to-freeze/story-e6frg13u-1225884611858
Pretty warm here in England! It’s going to be 30 deg c here today (86 deg f for all you Americans). Tomorrow is the same.
The “Ice Dancing” thread below reminded me of ‘Snow Flakes Are Dancing’! Superb. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igHOaMOzzUo&feature=related
Go down to Craigs, in Ballarat, they have a nice fire in the bar, good food etc. Or go to Murphy’s for a Guinness. There’s also a good Indian restaurant at Bakery Hill that will warm the inner parts. Ballarat has great food from all over the world. If you fancy a bit of the other go to the Bonshaw (so I hear).
The Ballarat Environment Network formed in 1993 to provide a voice for environmental and nature conservation issues in Ballarat and surrounds[41]. Another large lobby group for sustainability in the city is the Ballarat Renewable Energy And Zero Emissions – BREAZE formed in 2006[42]. The City of Ballarat released an Environment Sustainability Strategy for the city in 2007[43].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballarat,_Victoria
Oh you poor chap, Ballarat in winter! I swear it is almost as cold as the South Pole (and that is probably where the winds are coming from!). Agree with Mike, there are some good eateries. The steak at Assuntas on Sturt St is definitely worth a visit and the Boatshed does a good breakfast (and you can look out onto the Ballarat evidence for global warming – a dry lake, unless the recent rain has filled it up again).
Dont worry, Canberra will be cool as well so get your Damart thermals out!
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965
This is a “MUST READ” article in my humble opinion.
Frightening but brilliant journalism.
It would be good to see a forum on alternative energy here.
I see that as having two parts-the necessity (or not) desirability, costs, security implication, technology involved and the overall desirability of Governments using renewables as the main plank in their energy policy-such as in the UK where we have a looming energy crisis.
The second part would involve the practicalities of individuals being able to use renewables cost effectively in real world situations. What renewables are cost effective, which are most advanced, practicalities 0of using electric cars, the upsides and downsides of various systems ec.
tonyb
I do not understand the obsession with arctic sea ice. Every week there are two or more posts here discussing arctic sea ice. Surely there are more interesting topics. (Reminds me of a skit where Howard Coselle (SP) describes paint drying.)
Yes, the earth is warming. Has been sinse about 1715. (Probably not caused by human activity.)
Yes, we are due for a slow descent into an ice age. Whereby the arctic ice cap will extend to about the Ohio River. (Where are all the people going to be put?)
Yes, the polar bears are going to survive it all. (Polar Bears in Central Park?)
Surely, there are enough interesting science based global climate topics, that you guys could insert here to replace at least one arctic sea ice post per week. (Such as the energy content of the various solar spectra incident on the earth, and their variability)
A big “thank you”. I’ve learned a lot from WUWT.
May I enter a plea to maintain the objective nature of debate as far as possible? I realise this is difficult, given the stakes (disaster from no action v disaster from stupid action, both seasoned by loads of money for some) but some of the threads recently, notably about Arctic ice, have been a little too heated and ad hom?
Different interpretations from different data and different models of not -fully-known provenance seem to abound re Arctic ice, so folk have to agree to differ, while trying to learn from each other? Yes, I know I’ an idealist…
(I’m not even clear that a warmer Arctic is a bad thing – it must dump a lot of heat out of the climate system. Bad if it is a tipping point before global cooling I suppose… dare i say “tipping point” these days!)
But thanks to all for your contributions
The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley,
Maybe in London it is; barely 25 C here in Oxford and away from the big City; and about time too: what a Spring we have had!
F D
Since CAGW promoters seem to universally defend “Mike’s Nature trick” do you all think it would be fair to start calling them “trickers” or “tricksters”?
I’ll bet the Sun emits microwave energy. How much? Why aren’t we roasting like hot dogs? Sven??
Here’s a more complete english translation of the article about the German solar subsidies.
http://sppiblog.org/news/german-solar-energy-gravy-train-%e2%80%93-the-coming-meltdown
BTW, our Bundesrat (the second parliamentary chamber with representatives from the Länder – the provinces; we have a federal structure) has blocked the reduction of the subsidies and the Vermittlungsausschuss (mediation committee or something like that) is busy finding a compromise. Much like the Senate – Congress – conflicts you have in the U.S.A. The provinces fear for the pork jobs.
This relates to the golf of Mexico deep water horizon situation.
I know that not core issue but there are further conserns emerging.
In short, its emerging that its a ‘down the hole leak’. The lining is shattered and oil and gas is permeating into the sea bed strata and seeping out several miles from the BOP. The strata of the sea bed is showing signs of stress and structural failure and if that happens we could see an abrupt release of oil and gas sinking or damaging the rigs and vessels on the surface and the possibility of an tsunami produced by an underwater sink hole or landslide event. There are tilt meters installed on the BOP. It is clear the flow on the camera is not big enough to be the only flow. Its also clear that they haven’t sealed the flow from the BOP because that would transfer pressure to the seeps and speed geologies failure. Some of the links in my blog are from very strange groups on the web but we get called that to. Even a conspiracy theorist can get it right and find a scoop sometimes.
http://appliedimpossibilies.blogspot.com/2010/06/oil-leak-potential-catastrophe-and.html
The main stream media is catching on too.
BP and the government is stuck for a solution.
I have a solution here. I involves pitching large plastic tents over the leaks, anchoring them with robots inside the tents and clearing the methane hydrates with more robots. Then the leak can go freely without any pressure being applied to it.
http://appliedimpossibilies.blogspot.com/2010/06/capping-gulf-oil-leak-with-plastic.html
Any help getting this solution implemented would be appreciated.
See you in Canberra Anthony.
I imagine Steve Schneider and his Climate Scientist list was compiled in this fashion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adXuwZU-6lg
German Solar Energy Gravy Train, the coming meltdown.
http://pgosselin.wordpress.com/2010/06/22/german-solar-energy-gravy-train-the-coming-meltdown/
I just picked on an article at Greenie Watch
‘Her name is Judith Lean (photo left). On the basis of this “consensus of one” solar physicist, the IPCC proclaimed solar influences upon the climate to be minimal. Objection to this was raised by the Norwegian government as shown in the AR4 second draft comments below (and essentially dismissed by the IPCC):
Judith Lean and Claus Frohlich (authors of the single study noted above) “manipulated” the data. People who were in charge of the satellites and created the original graphs (the world’s best astrophysics: Doug Hoyt, Richard C. Willson), protested in vain against such manipulation. Wilson: “Fröhlich has made changes that are wrong’
http://climaterealists.com/?id=5910
See also
This is the next big thing, see it grow:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=judithgate&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images
Stephan says:
June 26, 2010 at 1:13 am
I wonder if Leif would be able or willing to comment on the graphs shown here (solar ones)
http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2010/06/ipcc-consensus-on-solar-influence-was.html
they show a clear cut solar effect on climate. Also on the way the IPCC has handled this.. Its scandalous.
No more scandalous than your link. I feel sure Leif will be be to respond to much the content as it looks to be based on old ideas and reconstructions (e.g. the increase in geomagnetic activity over the past century). However I’ll leave that to him.
I do have a couple of comments to make.
1. There is not a cooling trend in the satellite record since 1998, which is a bit surprising considering the deep solar minimum observed in the last 4 or 5 years.
2. The TSI/NH temperature link (7th plot) has completely broken down since 1980. You may notice that the author of the blog uses data only up to 1992. The temperature plot would be at least 0.2 deg higher if it were extended up the the present day while the TSI plot would be at much the same level (or lower). So, even if, there were a link (and I have some doubts) this suggests that causes of warming since ~1980 are most definitley not due to the sun.
It’s odd that those who argue for a strong solar link actually strengthen the AGW case.
I’m hoping for snow in Perth on Monday evening.
That should provide a refreshing view to those attending the sermons by Lewendowsky et al. at UWA.
Temperate at a nearby (to where I live) Ag. Research Station fell to -0.8 degrees C last night. And it was -0.2 degrees C the night before. It was sunny for most of yesterday with 12.3 MJ/m^2 for the whole day. Minimum RH fell to 34%, presumably the moisture got “dewed-out” with an observed max RH >99%.
It’s near sunset and the live feed says:
Time 17:25
Air Temp 10.5
Rel Hum 66.3
Soil Temp 11.4
SolarW/m² 4.3
Wspeed kph 1.4
Station Data