Some people claim, that there's a human to blame …

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

There seem to be a host of people out there who want to discuss whether humanoids are responsible for the post ~1850 rise in the amount of CO2. People seem madly passionate about this question. So I figure I’ll deal with it by employing the method I used in the 1960s to fire off dynamite shots when I was in the road-building game … light the fuse, and run like hell …

First, the data, as far as it is known. What we have to play with are several lines of evidence, some of which are solid, and some not so solid. These break into three groups: data about the atmospheric levels, data about the emissions, and data about the isotopes.

The most solid of the atmospheric data, as we have been discussing, is the Mauna Loa CO2 data. This in turn is well supported by the ice core data. Here’s what they look like for the last thousand years:

Figure 1. Mauna Loa CO2 data (orange circles), and CO2 data from 8 separate ice cores. Fuji ice core data is analyzed by two methods (wet and dry). Siple ice core data is analyzed by two different groups (Friedli et al., and Neftel et al.). You can see why Michael Mann is madly desirous of establishing the temperature hockeystick … otherwise, he has to explain the Medieval Warm Period without recourse to CO2. Photo shows the outside of the WAIS ice core drilling shed.

So here’s the battle plan:

I’m going to lay out and discuss the data and the major issues as I understand them, and tell you what I think. Then y’all can pick it all apart. Let me preface this by saying that I do think that the recent increase in CO2 levels is due to human activities.

Issue 1. The shape of the historical record.

I will start with Figure 1. As you can see, there is excellent agreement between the eight different ice cores, including the different methods and different analysts for two of the cores. There is also excellent agreement between the ice cores and the Mauna Loa data. Perhaps the agreement is coincidence. Perhaps it is conspiracy. Perhaps it is simple error. Me, I think it represents a good estimate of the historical background CO2 record.

So if you are going to believe that this is not a result of human activities, it would help to answer the question of what else might have that effect. It is not necessary to provide an alternative hypothesis if you disbelieve that humans are the cause … but it would help your case. Me, I can’t think of any obvious other explanation for that precipitous recent rise.

Issue 2. Emissions versus Atmospheric Levels and Sequestration

There are a couple of datasets that give us amounts of CO2 emissions from human activities. The first is the CDIAC emissions dataset. This gives the annual emissions (as tonnes of carbon, not CO2) separately for fossil fuel gas, liquids, and solids. It also gives the amounts for cement production and gas flaring.

The second dataset is much less accurate. It is an estimate of the emissions from changes in land use and land cover, or “LU/LC” as it is known … what is a science if it doesn’t have acronyms? The most comprehensive dataset I’ve found for this is the Houghton dataset. Here are the emissions as shown by those two datasets:

Figure 2. Anthropogenic (human-caused) emissions from fossil fuel burning and cement manufacture (blue line), land use/land cover (LU/LC) changes (white line), and the total of the two (red line).

While this is informative, and looks somewhat like the change in atmospheric CO2, we need something to compare the two directly. The magic number to do this is the number of gigatonnes (billions of tonnes, 1 * 10^9) of carbon that it takes to change the atmospheric CO2 concentration by 1 ppmv. This turns out to be 2.13 gigatonnes  of carbon (C) per 1 ppmv.

Using that relationship, we can compare emissions and atmospheric CO2 directly. Figure 3 looks at the cumulative emissions since 1850, along with the atmospheric changes (converted from ppmv to gigatonnes C). When we do so, we see an interesting relationship. Not all of the emitted CO2 ends up in the atmosphere. Some is sequestered (absorbed) by the natural systems of the earth.

Figure 3. Total emissions (fossil, cement, & LU/LC), amount remaining in the atmosphere, and amount sequestered.

Here we see that not all of the carbon that is emitted (in the form of CO2) remains in the atmosphere. Some is absorbed by some combination of the ocean, the biosphere, and the land. How are we to understand this?

To do so, we need to consider a couple of often conflated measurements. One is the residence time of CO2. This is the amount of time that the average CO2 molecule stays in the atmosphere. It can be calculated in a couple of ways, and is likely about 6–8 years.

The other measure, often confused with the first, is the half-life, or alternately the e-folding time of CO2. Suppose we put a pulse of CO2 into an atmospheric system which is at some kind of equilibrium. The pulse will slowly decay, and after a certain time, the system will return to equilibrium. This is called “exponential decay”, since a certain percentage of the excess is removed each year. The strength of the exponential decay is usually measured as the amount of time it takes for the pulse to decay to half its original value (half-life) or to 1/e (0.37) of its original value (e-folding time). The length of this decay (half-life or e-folding time) is much more difficult to calculate than the residence time. The IPCC says it is somewhere between 90 and 200 years. I say it is much less, as does Jacobson.

Now, how can we determine if it is actually the case that we are looking at exponential decay of the added CO2? One way is to compare it to what a calculated exponential decay would look like. Here’s the result, using an e-folding time of 31 years:

Figure 4. Total cumulative emissions (fossil, cement, & LU/LC), cumulative amount remaining in the atmosphere, and cumulative amount sequestered. Calculated sequestered amount (yellow line) and calculated airborne amount (black) are shown as well.

As you can see, the assumption of exponential decay fits the observed data quite well, supporting the idea that the excess atmospheric carbon is indeed from human activities.

Issue 3. 12C and 13C carbon isotopes

Carbon has a couple of natural isotopes, 12C and 13C. 12C is lighter than 13C. Plants preferentially use the lighter isotope (12C). As a result, plant derived materials (including fossil fuels) have a lower amount of 13C with respect to 12C (a lower 13C/12C ratio).

It is claimed (I have not looked very deeply into this) that since about 1850 the amount of 12C in the atmosphere has been increasing. There are several lines of evidence for this: 13C/12C ratios in tree rings, 13C/12C ratios in the ocean, and 13C/12C ratios in sponges. Together, they suggest that the cause of the post 1850 CO2 rise is fossil fuel burning.

However, there are problems with this. For example, here is a Nature article called “Problems in interpreting tree-ring δ 13C records”. The abstract says (emphasis mine):

THE stable carbon isotopic (13C/12C) record of twentieth-century tree rings has been examined1-3 for evidence of the effects of the input of isotopically lighter fossil fuel CO2 (δ 13C~-25‰ relative to the primary PDB standard4), since the onset of major fossil fuel combustion during the mid-nineteenth century, on the 13C/12C ratio of atmospheric CO2(δ 13C~-7‰), which is assimilated by trees by photosynthesis. The decline in δ13C up to 1930 observed in several series of tree-ring measurements has exceeded that anticipated from the input of fossil fuel CO2 to the atmosphere, leading to suggestions of an additional input ‰) during the late nineteenth/early twentieth century. Stuiver has suggested that a lowering of atmospheric δ 13C of 0.7‰, from 1860 to 1930 over and above that due to fossil fuel CO2 can be attributed to a net biospheric CO2 (δ 13C~-25‰) release comparable, in fact, to the total fossil fuel CO2 flux from 1850 to 1970. If information about the role of the biosphere as a source of or a sink for CO2 in the recent past can be derived from tree-ring 13C/12C data it could prove useful in evaluating the response of the whole dynamic carbon cycle to increasing input of fossil fuel CO2 and thus in predicting potential climatic change through the greenhouse effect of resultant atmospheric CO2 concentrations. I report here the trend (Fig. 1a) in whole wood δ 13C from 1883 to 1968 for tree rings of an American elm, grown in a non-forest environment at sea level in Falmouth, Cape Cod, Massachusetts (41°34’N, 70°38’W) on the northeastern coast of the US. Examination of the δ 13C trends in the light of various potential influences demonstrates the difficulty of attributing fluctuations in 13C/12C ratios to a unique cause and suggests that comparison of pre-1850 ratios with temperature records could aid resolution of perturbatory parameters in the twentieth century.

This isotopic line of argument seems like the weakest one to me. The total flux of carbon through the atmosphere is about 211 gigtonnes plus the human contribution. This means that the human contribution to the atmospheric flux ranged from ~2.7% in 1978 to 4% in 2008. During that time, the average of the 11 NOAA measuring stations value for the 13C/12C ratio decreased by -0.7 per mil.

Now, the atmosphere has ~ -7 per mil 13C/12C. Given that, for the amount of CO2 added to the atmosphere to cause a 0.7 mil drop, the added CO2 would need to have had a 13C/12C of around -60 per mil.

But fossil fuels in the current mix have a 13C/12C ration of ~ -28 per mil, only about half of that requried to make such a change. So it is clear that the fossil fuel burning is not the sole cause of the change in the atmospheric 13C/12C ratio. Note that this is the same finding as in the Nature article.

In addition, from an examination of the year-by-year changes it is obvious that there are other large scale effects on the global 13C/12C ratio. From 1984 to 1986, it increased by 0.03 per mil. From ’86 to ’89, it decreased by -0.2. And from ’89 to ’92, it didn’t change at all. Why?

However, at least the sign of the change in atmospheric 13C/12C ratio (decreasing) is in agreement with with theory that at least part of it is from anthropogenic CO2 production from fossil fuel burning.

CONCLUSION

As I said, I think that the preponderance of evidence shows that humans are the main cause of the increase in atmospheric CO2. It is unlikely that the change in CO2 is from the overall temperature increase. During the ice age to interglacial transitions, on average a change of 7°C led to a doubling of CO2. We have seen about a tenth of that change (0.7°C) since 1850, so we’d expect a CO2 change from temperature alone of only about 20 ppmv.

Given all of the issues discussed above, I say humans are responsible for the change in atmospheric CO2 … but obviously, for lots of people, YMMV. Also, please be aware that I don’t think that the change in CO2 will make any meaningful difference to the temperature, for reasons that I explain here.

So having taken a look at the data, we have finally arrived at …

RULES FOR THE DISCUSSION OF ATTRIBUTION OF THE CO2 RISE

1. Numbers trump assertions. If you don’t provide numbers, you won’t get much traction.

2. Ad hominems are meaningless. Saying that some scientist is funded by big oil, or is a member of Greenpeace, or is a geologist rather than an atmospheric physicist, is meaningless. What is important is whether what they say is true or not. Focus on the claims and their veracity, not on the sources of the claims. Sources mean nothing.

3. Appeals to authority are equally meaningless. Who cares what the 12-member Board of the National Academy of Sciences says? Science isn’t run by a vote … thank goodness.

4. Make your cites specific. “The IPCC says …” is useless. “Chapter 7 of the IPCC AR4 says …” is useless. Cite us chapter and verse, specify page and paragraph. I don’t want to have to dig through an entire paper or an IPCC chapter to guess at which one line you are talking about.

5. QUOTE WHAT YOU DISAGREE WITH!!! I can’t stress this enough. Far too often, people attack something that another person hasn’t said. Quote their words, the exact words you think are mistaken, so we can all see if you have understood what they are saying.

6. NO PERSONAL ATTACKS!!! Repeat after me. No personal attacks. No “only a fool would believe …”. No “Are you crazy?”. No speculation about a person’s motives. No “deniers”, no “warmists”, no “econazis”, none of the above. Play nice.

OK, countdown to mayhem in 3, 2, 1 … I’m outta here.

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G. Karst
June 7, 2010 8:11 am

SimonH:
“I propose “AGW believer”.”
I agree but “AGW convinced” or “AGW unconvinced” avoids religiosity, while retaining correct meaning. GK

Steve Hempell
June 7, 2010 8:22 am

Willis,
Care to comment on this?
http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2007/06/on_why_co2_is_known_not_to_hav.html
Just like to have your opinion. I get lost in the mathematics.

John Hounslow
June 7, 2010 8:24 am

A couple of points to provide food for thought:
1. Add to figure 2 a total global population line.
2.Something odd about CO2 seems to have started 10,000 years ago – from the ice core results it has been on an upward trend, even though temperature has been on a downward trend. Contrast with what happened during 10,000 year periods at comparable points in previous cycles – 120,000 years ago to 130,000 years ago, 230,000 years ago to 240,000 years ago, 325,000 years ago to 335, 000 years ago, 400,000 years ago to 410,000 years ago. In each of those periods CO2 followed temperature down. What caused the change? Total human population was pretty puny 10,000 years ago.

A C Osborn
June 7, 2010 8:25 am

I have not read all the posts on here so I apologise in advance if this has been mentioned before.
I have to disagree with the accuracy of this remark.
“It is unlikely that the change in CO2 is from the overall temperature increase. During the ice age to interglacial transitions, on average a change of 7°C led to a doubling of CO2. We have seen about a tenth of that change (0.7°C) since 1850, so we’d expect a CO2 change from temperature alone of only about 20 ppmv.”
On the grounds of the 600-800 time lag that is supposed to be shown in Ice Core evaluation. The changes we see would relate to what happened to temperatures in the Past, not what is happening now.

AndrewS
June 7, 2010 8:27 am

One is the residence time of CO2. This is the amount of time that the average CO2 molecule stays in the atmosphere. It can be calculated in a couple of ways, and is likely about 6–8 years.
The other measure, often confused with the first, is the half-life, or alternately the e-folding time of CO2. Suppose we put a pulse of CO2 into an atmospheric system which is at some kind of equilibrium. The pulse will slowly decay, and after a certain time, the system will return to equilibrium.

That I don’t get. Assuming residence time of 6 years we get ~16.7% of all pulse absorbed in first year. ~30.5% is gone after two years. And after only four years more that half of original pulse will be absorbed (~51.77%). That means that 6 years residence time results in less than 4 year of half-life time. Same analysis for 8 years of residence time results in just above 5 years of half-life time. Is anything wrong with my reasoning?
Andrew

Dave Springer
June 7, 2010 8:29 am

Willis asks what else other than human CO2 emissions might have caused recent rise.
Land use changes – primarily taking out old growth forests. Remember how the Kyoto protocol was originally supposed to credit countries for reforestation efforts until it was discovered that the US had planted so many trees it would get a huge credit then the Europeans balked at giving a credit for reforestation and then Clinton and Bush both decided not to sign it when the reforestation credits were removed.
Warming oceans. Natural warming of the ocean releases dissolved CO2 like a glass of beer.
Question for Willis: throughout the vast majority of earth’s history atmospheric CO2 levels were at least several and as much as order of magnitude higher than today. It’s only during the relatively recent period of glacial-interglacial cycles where the earth’s temperature and CO2 content of the atmosphere has been this low. The whole damn planet was tropical for most of its history. How do you explain that given the sun was 10% cooler in the distant past and fossil fuel reserves were being built up instead of being burned up.
2) warm
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3)

PJB
June 7, 2010 8:31 am

From the Vostok data, CO2 lags the temperature from 50 to 600 years or so….
We are at the “end” of a warming period with a gradual lowering of temperatures and despite the recent “increase”, shouldn’t the natural trend of CO2 content be somewhat downward? That being the case, are we “diverting” the temperature drop into the next ice-age by our carbonaceous ways?
Just askin’.

Stop Global Dumbing Now
June 7, 2010 8:32 am

This is a fun exercise for us climate laymen. Not much time to play this morning.
1) Ice core data is a little too level for my taste. Could the newer ice be the “saturation” state (for lack of a better word) and the older ice reflects leaching (out gassing) to a a more stable concentration?
2) We didn’t have a way of measuring CO2 until 1890s but I have never seen a comprehensive pre-industrial estimate (guesses don’t count). Does one exist? That table going back to the 1700s is quite suspect as recent papers show that even hunter-gatherers participated in burning forests to change the landscape to improve hunting conditions. The poor neglected anthropologists finally have their chance to get in on this.

June 7, 2010 8:38 am

“1. Numbers trump assertions. If you don’t provide numbers, you won’t get much traction.”
I love numbers, I really do. I once wanted to be the statistician that threw out the various statistics at sporting events…….such as Team A wins 90% of the time when Joe Blow runs for over a hundred yards for the game, or, up next, here’s Jose Golpe, he’s batting .431 with runners in scoring position against left-handed pitchers on Wednesdays in a dome this year!(My apologies to the people not familiar with American sports).
My point is, numbers are often meaningless. For anyone that cares, every team that has a runner rushing for over 100 yards in a game should win at least 90% of the time, so attaching a meaning for a particular team to a specific runner going over 100 yards is silly. In my other example, while batting .431 is a lofty goal, this is example is bereft of “ifs” and “buts”. First, typically, a batter performs better against a pitcher throwing from the opposite hand.(Righty vs. Lefty, I assumed it is the same with cricket, but I don’t know.) Also, averages are skewed by lower incidents. Even if it is at the end of a season and Mr. Golpe was a full time player, how many times would Mr. Golpe have batted against a lefty on a Wednesday, in a dome with runners in scoring position for the year? Not often enough for the number to hold any meaning. For those that don’t know the last hitter to bat over .400, regardless of day of the week, right or left, ect. was Ted Williams in 1941.
Most people here, will say “so what?”
Numbers and averages skew a perspective. Like the team winning with the hundred yard rusher, atmospheric CO2 should increase. Why? For the obvious reason, man’s advancement! Anthropogenic CO2 is simply a by-product of economic growth and societal progress. My latter scenario, too, can have parallels with the CAGW discussion. In the CAGW discussion we use terms such as El Nino and La Nina. Almost always, they are accompanied by terms such as albedo and currents and solar phases ect. In other words, if solar activity X is accompanied by Nino or conversely Nina along with other astral convergences(a recent discussion here) combined with volcanic activity apparently, other than the one by Muana(Muana’s CO2 emissions are the good kind that we use a CO2 ruler for the world) then we’re likely to see Y in regards to Arctic ice extent in May(apparently meaningless in relation to ice extent in Sept). All that to mean……..nothing. Don’t get me wrong, man’s knowledge of our climate has increased significantly……sort of. As with many of the great questions of man, we’re often left with more questions than answers. I believe this will be the case for many years to come. Sadly, agenda driven science has altered the course of climate science. To what extent and what degree, we won’t know for many years to come.
Numbers are great when put in proper perspective, but useless unless the proper logic and critical thinking have been applied. Figures lie and lairs figure. I’m not sure what the exact number is, but my verbosity increases exponentially when I see a hockey stick graph.
Cheers

Malaga View
June 7, 2010 8:44 am

Enneagram says:
June 7, 2010 at 7:33 am

Thanks for the link to http://biocab.org/carbon_dioxide_geological_timescale.html
which includes following diagram showing the “Area of Continents Flooded” vs “Change of Tropospheric Temperature” http://biocab.org/Geological_TS_Sea_Level_op_713x534.jpg
I am left wondering did someone pull the plug out of their bath 500 mya?
Or perhaps the earth is expanding after all….

Steve Fitzpatrick
June 7, 2010 8:46 am

stevengoddard says:
June 7, 2010 at 6:09 am
“Carbon dioxide is slowly absorbed to convert the portlandite (Ca(OH)2) into insoluble calcium carbonate. “
Well yes, in theory at least, and this is certainly true near exposed surfaces of newly cast concrete. But most Portand cement based concrete is cast in slabs thick enough to preclude the easy entrance and diffusion of CO2, once the hydration process gets underway and the cement has a firm “set”. Indeed, reinforcing steel is normally set at a depth in the concrete sufficient to insure that carbon dioxide does not diffuse enough to reach the steel at any time during the expected useful lifetime of the concrete (since having the carbonation front reach the steel would lead to corrosion of the steel and possible failure of the concrete). So, while CO2 absorption certainly takes place, the “carbonation” process is extremely slow (taking hundreds of years) unless the concrete is demolished and broken into small pieces to expose more surface area to the air. In very thick sections (concrete in dams, large structural members, etc.) for all practical purposes (less than many hundreds of years) there is no significant CO2 absorption.
Cement manufacture is a net CO2 emissions source over less than geologic time scales, but is in fact a small fraction of other CO2 sources.

Bruce Cobb
June 7, 2010 8:46 am

According to Jaworowski:
“More than a decade ago, it was demonstrated that…the ice cores cannot be regarded as a closed system, and that low pre-industrial concentrations of CO2, and of other trace greenhouse gases are an artifact, caused by more than 20 physical-chemical processes operating in situ in the polar snow and ice, and in the ice cores. Drilling the cores is a brutal and polluting procedure, drastically disturbing the ice samples.”
“Liquid water is commonly present in the polar snow and ice, even at the eutectic temperature of −73°C. Therefore, the conclusions on low pre-industrial atmospheric levels of greenhouse gases cannot be regarded as valid, before experimental studies exclude the existence of these fractionation processes.”
“Recently, Brooks Hurd, a high-purity-gas analyst, confirmed the previous criticism of ice core CO2 studies. He noted that the Knudsen diffusion effect, combined with inward diffusion, is depleting CO2 in ice cores exposed to drastic pressure changes (up to 320 bars—more than 300 times normal atmospheric pressure), and that it minimizes variations and reduces the maximums (Hurd 2006).”
It seems very plausible that the carbon dioxide ice core records are highly questionable, meaning that hockey stick chart (where have we seen that before) is probably wrong, and that C02 levels have indeed been at least as high as todays’ over the past millennium. I doubt the rise in C02 is nearly as great as is supposed, and therefor, the % attributable to man is probably considerably less than what is supposed. It would be nice if we were responsible for more of the beneficial gas, though.

Tom Jones
June 7, 2010 8:48 am

I went through a lot of the same material, when I first got interested in AGW. Having come to the same conclusion then, I would be hard-put to disagree with it now. And, the insights of the Thermostat Hypothesis are really quite good. Nice work, Willis. It seems like a pretty good model for a piece of the puzzle. But, the question that bedevils is “what is changing the set-point of the thermostat?” There is a lot of chaotic short-term variation, which is not surprising given the feedback mechanisms, but there also seems to be an underlying long-term movement in the center value of the whole thing. There is obviously a large and loud school of thought that the atmospheric concentration of CO2 is what is moving the set-point. Perhaps it is, but correlation and causation are different things, and that theory seems to keep needing patching, which is not exactly reassuring. Nor am I convinced by any of the alternatives. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Anton
June 7, 2010 8:57 am

Bob says:
June 7, 2010 at 5:05 am
“Off Topic, but I’ve been following the evolution of David Hathaway’s “Solar Cycle Predictions” of the sunspot cycle for a while. I’ve noticed that when he posts the current month’s real data, he quietly adjusts his predicted curve to fit the real data.”
This is what MSN Weather does with its WTD/iMAP weather module on MSN homepages. Towards the end of the day, it goes back and changes incorrect forecasts to match what actually happened. It’s fraud, but what else is new in the climate community? Doesn’t Michael Mann spend much of his time rewriting temperature records to make them match his theories?
Does anybody ever admit to being wrong?

KevinUK
June 7, 2010 8:57 am

David Archibald
“The CDIAC is the nuclear industry’s contribution to global warming hysteria. If you look at their experiments on the growth response of plants to increased CO2, they added ozone to their artificial atmospheres in order to get a negative response.”
Do you have a citation for your statement above?
I once had a late night (in UK time zone) conversation with Steve M on CA about the possible link between the nuclear industry and CAGW. From my personal experience of working within the UK nuclear industry in the past, I told SteveM that I had never come across this link i..e that IMO CAGW propoganda was not eminating form the UK nuclear industry in order to justify building new nuclear plants – in fact from it!
Just because ORNL is a former nuclear R&D site but is now largely an ex-nuclear research site/institution doesn’t mean that CDIAC is part of the CAGW propaganda industry. Because of Steve M’s concerns I’ve spent quite a few days researching for evidence of this possible link between the US (and UK) nuclear industry (it definitely doesn’t exist in the UK) and the CAGW propaganda industry. The closest I’ve come to any evidence of it, is a fairly tenuous link between certain DOE funded staff at Pacific Nuclear Labs and some of their CAGW pronouncements and thats about it.
On the other hand there is a clear demonstrable link between the the UK universities that form part of the Tyndall Centre and BADC, the UK Met office and other DECC/DEFRA funded institutions/organisations like the Centre for Hydrology and Ecology and CAGW propaganda. None of these organisations/institutions have any connections with any of the UK’s former research and development sites like AERE Harwell or Winfrith despite their proximity (Harwell to Oxford and Winfrith to Exeter).
In fact I fully expected to see some familar names (from my days in UKAEA) on the staff compliment at UK Hadley Centre given my past involvement in modelling with the ‘severe nucelar accident catastrophe modelers’ at Harwell and Winfrith but I have been sadly disappointed to find that not one of them has ended up at Exeter as I was looking forward to contacting them and having some heated debates on thw usefulness (NOT!) of GCMs.

June 7, 2010 9:00 am

G. Karst
June 7, 2010 at 8:11 am
SimonH:
“I propose “AGW believer”.”
“I agree but “AGW convinced” or “AGW unconvinced” avoids religiosity, while retaining correct meaning.” GK
Hmm, perhaps for many, but for others it would seem including religiosity would be appropriate.
Religion
From Latin religiō (“‘moral obligation, worship’”)
1. A collection of practices, based on beliefs and teachings that are highly valued or sacred.
2. Any practice that someone or some group is seriously devoted to.
3. Any ongoing practice one engages in, in order to shape their character or improve traits of their personality.
4. An ideological and traditional heritage.
Numbers 1 and 2 seem to hit some CAGW convinced people dead on.

Ben
June 7, 2010 9:00 am

Side-notes that I think might be relavent. For one, I saw a study posted about 3 years ago by NASA that showed the Earth overall was 5% greener then 10 years before. I tried to find that study and can’t now, so as much as I hate to say it, you might need to take my word for it.
Our ecoystem may be able to counter the rising tide of CO2 given enough time, however this is speculation as is the question of how much CO2 our oceans can hold and sequester. There are no facts really known about this, and studies of those two relationships would have been much more beneficial then studies of say mammoth farts…but I digress..

Gail Combs
June 7, 2010 9:00 am

Andrew W says:
June 7, 2010 at 3:19 am
Of course, those nasty warmists have been trying to explain for years just how solid the evidence is that it is indeed human activity that’s causing the CO2 rise, it’s laughable that many “skeptics” are only capable of accepting the reasoning when it’s explained to them by one of the good people at WUWT.
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I am more open to Willis and Anthony because I know they are more interested in science than in their next pay check or the next big financial bubble.
There have been enough people who have run a foul of the establishment and lost their jobs or what ever to make me examine ANYTHING that comes out of the government these days.
A neutral example: Since the international HACCP system replaced the old US meat inspection system there were ninety-four meat recalls in just one year, over 1000 Food inspection non-conformance reports found as a result of a freedom of Information act request from ‘Public Citizen’ and the Food Inspection Union’s chairman, Stan Painter accuses the USDA of ignoring the problems with HACCP during a Congressional investigation.
The official “Answer. …. The FSIS investigation has been completed and the allegations concerning improper enforcement of SRM regulations were not substantiated. In addition, the OIG independently sent an investigator and an audit team to examine the allegations concerning SRM regulatory compliance. Their observations also concluded that the chairman’s allegations were unsubstantiated.”
GRRRRrrrrr PEOPLE died horribly and the US government covered it up! http://www.marlerblog.com/tags/john-munsell/
http://www.foodsafetynews.com/contributors/nicole-johnson/
Now, tell me again why I should take the word of any scientist who is on the government payroll or gets government grants without checking his work closely.

Philip T. Downman
June 7, 2010 9:01 am

Excellent reasoning, perhaps with the exception of those sorrow “tree rings” again. “The Problems in interpreting tree-ring δ 13C records”
There seems to be considerable difficulties to use the tree rings as a proxy for 13C content of the atmosphere too: The presumption is that plants prefer 12C. So if the concentration of 13C increases. this ought not to be directly mirrored in the 13C content in wood. It ought to be less, wouldn’t it? The extent to which 13C is accepted by different plants might vary with concentration and perhaps other factors as say temperature, water, nourishment.
My bet is that ice cores are better proxies for athmospheric CO2-content. I just guess that the difference in diffusion rate between 13CO2 and 12CO2 is negligible even over thousands of years.

P. Berkin
June 7, 2010 9:04 am

I was starting to worry a bit . . . then I re-drew the top graph with the y-axis going from 0 – 1,000,000 and I stopped worrying.
I am not a climate scientist, by the way.

Ian H
June 7, 2010 9:08 am

Anyone who doesn’t think the CO_2 rise is due to human beings should explain where all that CO_2 we have emitted actually went if not into the atmosphere.
I find it interesting that the sequestration rate seems to be getting larger – it is trending above the exponential line. If we were using up the capacity of the sea to absorb CO_2 we’d expect to see the opposite. Of course the sea has a huge capacity to absorb CO_2 and so far we’ve barely made a dent in it. Nevertheless you wouldn’t expect the sea to actually be getting more efficient at absorbing CO_2 … or would you?
In related news … my lawn needs mowing yet again. Perhaps the increased rate of sequestration is due to increased plant growth in the higher CO_2 environment.

June 7, 2010 9:09 am

Interesting CO2/Temp chart.

Timothy Chase
June 7, 2010 9:10 am

The paper is:
Farmer, John G. (1979) Problems in interpreting tree-ring δ 13C records, Nature, Volume 279, Issue 5710, pp. 229-231.
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1979Natur.279..229F
When I was arguing with young earth creationists they would often trot out old papers to suggest that there were major unresolved issues. One even such paper even showed the sun to be shrinking at such a rate that if it had been shrinking as quickly in the past the sun couldn’t be very old. That was from the 1970s. Older papers. More difficult to track down — or get PDFs of them off the web.
Used to be that if you were going back to the early 1990s things were tough. Nowadays, however, it is possible to get PDFs of all the Sol Spiegelman and Manfred Eigen papers from the 1960-70s on different strains of Spiegelman’s Monster — the shortest of which is in the neighborhood of 50 nucleotides long — about the same length that linear polyribonucleotides will spontaneously form in the presence of montmorillonite. But I can’t find an actual copy of the paper you are referring to — although I can see that there are a number of papers that dealt with the same topic in the following years.
Have you checked to see if there was any progress made on this problem?

June 7, 2010 9:10 am

The return of the LOST SHEEP:
There were ninety and nine that safely lay
In the shelter of the fold.
But one was out on the hills away,
Far off from the gates of gold.
Away on the mountains wild and bare.
Away from the tender AL BABY Shepherd’s care.
Away from the tender AL BABY Shepherd’s care.

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