Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
There seem to be a host of people out there who want to discuss whether humanoids are responsible for the post ~1850 rise in the amount of CO2. People seem madly passionate about this question. So I figure I’ll deal with it by employing the method I used in the 1960s to fire off dynamite shots when I was in the road-building game … light the fuse, and run like hell …
First, the data, as far as it is known. What we have to play with are several lines of evidence, some of which are solid, and some not so solid. These break into three groups: data about the atmospheric levels, data about the emissions, and data about the isotopes.
The most solid of the atmospheric data, as we have been discussing, is the Mauna Loa CO2 data. This in turn is well supported by the ice core data. Here’s what they look like for the last thousand years:
Figure 1. Mauna Loa CO2 data (orange circles), and CO2 data from 8 separate ice cores. Fuji ice core data is analyzed by two methods (wet and dry). Siple ice core data is analyzed by two different groups (Friedli et al., and Neftel et al.). You can see why Michael Mann is madly desirous of establishing the temperature hockeystick … otherwise, he has to explain the Medieval Warm Period without recourse to CO2. Photo shows the outside of the WAIS ice core drilling shed.
So here’s the battle plan:
I’m going to lay out and discuss the data and the major issues as I understand them, and tell you what I think. Then y’all can pick it all apart. Let me preface this by saying that I do think that the recent increase in CO2 levels is due to human activities.
Issue 1. The shape of the historical record.
I will start with Figure 1. As you can see, there is excellent agreement between the eight different ice cores, including the different methods and different analysts for two of the cores. There is also excellent agreement between the ice cores and the Mauna Loa data. Perhaps the agreement is coincidence. Perhaps it is conspiracy. Perhaps it is simple error. Me, I think it represents a good estimate of the historical background CO2 record.
So if you are going to believe that this is not a result of human activities, it would help to answer the question of what else might have that effect. It is not necessary to provide an alternative hypothesis if you disbelieve that humans are the cause … but it would help your case. Me, I can’t think of any obvious other explanation for that precipitous recent rise.
Issue 2. Emissions versus Atmospheric Levels and Sequestration
There are a couple of datasets that give us amounts of CO2 emissions from human activities. The first is the CDIAC emissions dataset. This gives the annual emissions (as tonnes of carbon, not CO2) separately for fossil fuel gas, liquids, and solids. It also gives the amounts for cement production and gas flaring.
The second dataset is much less accurate. It is an estimate of the emissions from changes in land use and land cover, or “LU/LC” as it is known … what is a science if it doesn’t have acronyms? The most comprehensive dataset I’ve found for this is the Houghton dataset. Here are the emissions as shown by those two datasets:
Figure 2. Anthropogenic (human-caused) emissions from fossil fuel burning and cement manufacture (blue line), land use/land cover (LU/LC) changes (white line), and the total of the two (red line).
While this is informative, and looks somewhat like the change in atmospheric CO2, we need something to compare the two directly. The magic number to do this is the number of gigatonnes (billions of tonnes, 1 * 10^9) of carbon that it takes to change the atmospheric CO2 concentration by 1 ppmv. This turns out to be 2.13 gigatonnes of carbon (C) per 1 ppmv.
Using that relationship, we can compare emissions and atmospheric CO2 directly. Figure 3 looks at the cumulative emissions since 1850, along with the atmospheric changes (converted from ppmv to gigatonnes C). When we do so, we see an interesting relationship. Not all of the emitted CO2 ends up in the atmosphere. Some is sequestered (absorbed) by the natural systems of the earth.
Figure 3. Total emissions (fossil, cement, & LU/LC), amount remaining in the atmosphere, and amount sequestered.
Here we see that not all of the carbon that is emitted (in the form of CO2) remains in the atmosphere. Some is absorbed by some combination of the ocean, the biosphere, and the land. How are we to understand this?
To do so, we need to consider a couple of often conflated measurements. One is the residence time of CO2. This is the amount of time that the average CO2 molecule stays in the atmosphere. It can be calculated in a couple of ways, and is likely about 6–8 years.
The other measure, often confused with the first, is the half-life, or alternately the e-folding time of CO2. Suppose we put a pulse of CO2 into an atmospheric system which is at some kind of equilibrium. The pulse will slowly decay, and after a certain time, the system will return to equilibrium. This is called “exponential decay”, since a certain percentage of the excess is removed each year. The strength of the exponential decay is usually measured as the amount of time it takes for the pulse to decay to half its original value (half-life) or to 1/e (0.37) of its original value (e-folding time). The length of this decay (half-life or e-folding time) is much more difficult to calculate than the residence time. The IPCC says it is somewhere between 90 and 200 years. I say it is much less, as does Jacobson.
Now, how can we determine if it is actually the case that we are looking at exponential decay of the added CO2? One way is to compare it to what a calculated exponential decay would look like. Here’s the result, using an e-folding time of 31 years:
Figure 4. Total cumulative emissions (fossil, cement, & LU/LC), cumulative amount remaining in the atmosphere, and cumulative amount sequestered. Calculated sequestered amount (yellow line) and calculated airborne amount (black) are shown as well.
As you can see, the assumption of exponential decay fits the observed data quite well, supporting the idea that the excess atmospheric carbon is indeed from human activities.
Issue 3. 12C and 13C carbon isotopes
Carbon has a couple of natural isotopes, 12C and 13C. 12C is lighter than 13C. Plants preferentially use the lighter isotope (12C). As a result, plant derived materials (including fossil fuels) have a lower amount of 13C with respect to 12C (a lower 13C/12C ratio).
It is claimed (I have not looked very deeply into this) that since about 1850 the amount of 12C in the atmosphere has been increasing. There are several lines of evidence for this: 13C/12C ratios in tree rings, 13C/12C ratios in the ocean, and 13C/12C ratios in sponges. Together, they suggest that the cause of the post 1850 CO2 rise is fossil fuel burning.
However, there are problems with this. For example, here is a Nature article called “Problems in interpreting tree-ring δ 13C records”. The abstract says (emphasis mine):
THE stable carbon isotopic (13C/12C) record of twentieth-century tree rings has been examined1-3 for evidence of the effects of the input of isotopically lighter fossil fuel CO2 (δ 13C~-25‰ relative to the primary PDB standard4), since the onset of major fossil fuel combustion during the mid-nineteenth century, on the 13C/12C ratio of atmospheric CO2(δ 13C~-7‰), which is assimilated by trees by photosynthesis. The decline in δ13C up to 1930 observed in several series of tree-ring measurements has exceeded that anticipated from the input of fossil fuel CO2 to the atmosphere, leading to suggestions of an additional input ‰) during the late nineteenth/early twentieth century. Stuiver has suggested that a lowering of atmospheric δ 13C of 0.7‰, from 1860 to 1930 over and above that due to fossil fuel CO2 can be attributed to a net biospheric CO2 (δ 13C~-25‰) release comparable, in fact, to the total fossil fuel CO2 flux from 1850 to 1970. If information about the role of the biosphere as a source of or a sink for CO2 in the recent past can be derived from tree-ring 13C/12C data it could prove useful in evaluating the response of the whole dynamic carbon cycle to increasing input of fossil fuel CO2 and thus in predicting potential climatic change through the greenhouse effect of resultant atmospheric CO2 concentrations. I report here the trend (Fig. 1a) in whole wood δ 13C from 1883 to 1968 for tree rings of an American elm, grown in a non-forest environment at sea level in Falmouth, Cape Cod, Massachusetts (41°34’N, 70°38’W) on the northeastern coast of the US. Examination of the δ 13C trends in the light of various potential influences demonstrates the difficulty of attributing fluctuations in 13C/12C ratios to a unique cause and suggests that comparison of pre-1850 ratios with temperature records could aid resolution of perturbatory parameters in the twentieth century.
This isotopic line of argument seems like the weakest one to me. The total flux of carbon through the atmosphere is about 211 gigtonnes plus the human contribution. This means that the human contribution to the atmospheric flux ranged from ~2.7% in 1978 to 4% in 2008. During that time, the average of the 11 NOAA measuring stations value for the 13C/12C ratio decreased by -0.7 per mil.
Now, the atmosphere has ~ -7 per mil 13C/12C. Given that, for the amount of CO2 added to the atmosphere to cause a 0.7 mil drop, the added CO2 would need to have had a 13C/12C of around -60 per mil.
But fossil fuels in the current mix have a 13C/12C ration of ~ -28 per mil, only about half of that requried to make such a change. So it is clear that the fossil fuel burning is not the sole cause of the change in the atmospheric 13C/12C ratio. Note that this is the same finding as in the Nature article.
In addition, from an examination of the year-by-year changes it is obvious that there are other large scale effects on the global 13C/12C ratio. From 1984 to 1986, it increased by 0.03 per mil. From ’86 to ’89, it decreased by -0.2. And from ’89 to ’92, it didn’t change at all. Why?
However, at least the sign of the change in atmospheric 13C/12C ratio (decreasing) is in agreement with with theory that at least part of it is from anthropogenic CO2 production from fossil fuel burning.
CONCLUSION
As I said, I think that the preponderance of evidence shows that humans are the main cause of the increase in atmospheric CO2. It is unlikely that the change in CO2 is from the overall temperature increase. During the ice age to interglacial transitions, on average a change of 7°C led to a doubling of CO2. We have seen about a tenth of that change (0.7°C) since 1850, so we’d expect a CO2 change from temperature alone of only about 20 ppmv.
Given all of the issues discussed above, I say humans are responsible for the change in atmospheric CO2 … but obviously, for lots of people, YMMV. Also, please be aware that I don’t think that the change in CO2 will make any meaningful difference to the temperature, for reasons that I explain here.
So having taken a look at the data, we have finally arrived at …
RULES FOR THE DISCUSSION OF ATTRIBUTION OF THE CO2 RISE
1. Numbers trump assertions. If you don’t provide numbers, you won’t get much traction.
2. Ad hominems are meaningless. Saying that some scientist is funded by big oil, or is a member of Greenpeace, or is a geologist rather than an atmospheric physicist, is meaningless. What is important is whether what they say is true or not. Focus on the claims and their veracity, not on the sources of the claims. Sources mean nothing.
3. Appeals to authority are equally meaningless. Who cares what the 12-member Board of the National Academy of Sciences says? Science isn’t run by a vote … thank goodness.
4. Make your cites specific. “The IPCC says …” is useless. “Chapter 7 of the IPCC AR4 says …” is useless. Cite us chapter and verse, specify page and paragraph. I don’t want to have to dig through an entire paper or an IPCC chapter to guess at which one line you are talking about.
5. QUOTE WHAT YOU DISAGREE WITH!!! I can’t stress this enough. Far too often, people attack something that another person hasn’t said. Quote their words, the exact words you think are mistaken, so we can all see if you have understood what they are saying.
6. NO PERSONAL ATTACKS!!! Repeat after me. No personal attacks. No “only a fool would believe …”. No “Are you crazy?”. No speculation about a person’s motives. No “deniers”, no “warmists”, no “econazis”, none of the above. Play nice.
OK, countdown to mayhem in 3, 2, 1 … I’m outta here.




Willis
“Let me preface this by saying that I do think that the recent increase in CO2 levels is due to human activities.”
If you had include the caveat “partly” I could agree with you but as stated in the above preamble I disagree with you and I think you presented a great deal of confusing statements I still think your definition of half life is incorrect as I said if you cut something in half again and again it never reaches zero but it does become insignificant like 1/1012 after 10 half lives this point is lost on most peole and is a major source of propaganda and misinformation by the IPCC. Your article definitely did nothing to clarify this issue. Also your singular reference to the ice core data as the “gold standard” is not even close as other posts have demonstrated. Sorry but your article was confusing and misleading to those of us who have spent many years and thousands of hours studying this very complex subject.
“not all of the carbon that is emitted (in the form of CO2) remains in the atmosphere. Some is absorbed by some combination of the ocean, the biosphere, and the land ….
the excess atmospheric carbon is indeed from human activities”
Does this mean that, when the AGW meme finally bites the dust (as it surely must), the next prop for the carbon-based financial and industrial industry will be anthropogenic ocean acidification (AOA)?
Grumbler says:
“Hold on – CO2 straight line for 800 years and climate fluctuates dramatically over that period? And CO2 drives climate? What am I missing? ”
There is something wrong with Figure 1. It defies common sense that CO2 would remain constant for 800 years and then suddenly increase 70 years before AGW.
Z – point well taken but I was limiting my frame of reference to the next 200 not 2000 years I hope the next ice age will not come up on us that quickly, but it is comming I agree.
Ric Werme said:
Let me see if I can be more explicit. I’ll start by reiterating my previous comment:
As stated, I’m looking for the raw data behind the O2:N2 atmospheric ratio plot that was used in AR4 WG1, The Physical Science Basis, Chapter 2, Section 2.3.1. The Scripps Atmospheric Oxygen Research Group, which actively collects and manages the O2:N2 raw data, is presently headed by Ralph F. Keeling, who is still very much alive (his father, Charles D. Keeling, passed away in 2005). The data is protected behind a firewall. It cannot be accessed. As stated in my previous comment, this can be verified by clicking on the “Lab Data” link at the bottom of the following web site: https://bluemoon.ucsd.edu/data.html
I don’t know how much more explicit I can get than that.
Do I need to put it up on the Jumbotron for you?The “starting point” you provided does not help. It simply points back to the same Scripps web site which leads back to the same Scripps firewall which leads to a dead end. See here: http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/obop/mlo/programs/coop/scripps/o2/o2.htmlIf anyone else has any idea of where I might be able to download the raw atmospheric O2:N2 ratio data, I’m all
earseyes.@Steve Garcia says:
Is it coincidence that China becoming the industrial park of the world, with little controls, just when all those curves start climbing? Or is there linkage there?
I suspect linkage.
I so agree. And not only that, on exporting our jobs, they now want us to pay via taxes for the lack of emmision controls in the very countries they have exported our jobs to. No! Tax the people you have given our jobs to or bring our jobs back, only then will a bit of justice be served.
Dr A Burns says:
June 7, 2010 at 4:46 pm:
See my post at 3:45 that shows empirically that ice diffuses from within ice over years, reducing initial high concentrations.
barry moore says:
June 7, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Z – point well taken but I was limiting my frame of reference to the next 200 not 2000 years I hope the next ice age will not come up on us that quickly, but it is comming I agree.
The 2000 years is not a guarantee – it *could* start at Christmas. This Christmas.
In fact it could happen in a couple of months – I’m being very northern hemisphere biased, and assuming it’ll happen during a northern winter.
Simple fact, is that no one knows. It’s one of the reasons why I’m firmly against geo-engineering to cool or warm things. Given a 50/50 chance, people will get it wrong 90% of the time.
Now Mann, Hansen et al are promising a few degrees warmer – that’s good news. I wish they were right.
Willis
See my post of 4.43 pm this is only the tip of the iceberg but there is a lot of evidence to show that human emissions are a minor contributor to global CO2 concentrations so after many years of research I will stand by my comments and I will not cap my electronic pen. I note how selective you have been in your responses, answer the easy questions do not touch the tough ones.
Nick Stokes says:
June 7, 2010 at 2:38 pm
“My understanding of the way concrete/cement works is that over time calcium silicate is formed, which is the hardening process. ”
While Portland cement does not have a precisely defined composition, in all cases the primary reaction is one of hydration of anhydrous calcium silicates, which are formed from calcium carbonate and silicate minerals in the cement kiln, with CO2 being driven off in the process. The dry calcium silicate solids initially dissolve in the added water, then gradually precipitate from solution in hard (rock-like) hydrated structures. Here is a very nice PDF presentation that lays out all the basic chemistry:
Portland Cement Hydration
Dr. Kimberly Kurtis
School of Civil Engineering
Georgia Institute of Technology
Atlanta, Georgia
I didn’t get the web address, but a Google search with title and author will bring it up on the first page of results. Anyhow, the setting of Portland cement it is a hydration/dissolution/precipitation process, and CO2 is not at all involved.
By the way, too much water in the concrete results in soft/fragile precipitated hydrates and very weak concrete, so if you are ever getting concrete poured, don’t let the truck driver add water to make the wet concrete easier to work with!
Dr A Burns says:
June 7, 2010 at 4:46 pm
What is the basis for the assumption that air surrounded by ice is any more a closed system than air in a balloon ? Why should air in ice be immune from diffusion and dissolution ?
Especially given that ice can freeze leaving tiny “tunnels” of water where microbes/algae can live and CO2 can dissolve. Also at the bottom of an ice core, the pressure must be incredible.
Any dissolved CO2 must outgas like a smashed bottle of champagne when the core is pulled into the ambient pressure.
I too find straight lines in nature a source of suspicion, rather than reassurance.
Nick Stokes says:
June 7, 2010 at 5:06 pm
“Willis,
This can’t work. If there were no manmade emissions, your model would have airborne CO2 down to 31 ppm within a century. ”
No, the level will only fall to the natural background level of the ocean (that is the vast majority of the deep ocean, which has never seen the recently elevated CO2, and so has a concentration that is roughly in equilibrium with 285 PPM in the atmosphere. The decay is from the current atmospheric CO2 level down to the pre-industrial CO2 level see: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/05/22/a-look-at-human-co2-emissions-vs-ocean-absorption/ for further discussion and description of the process.
This is coming from left field, but if no one has mentioned it, I wondered if it might have relevance. If not all “fossil fuel” is in fact biogenic, then wouldn’t that affect C12/C13 ratios?
I have no opinion either way, incidentally, about abiogenic oil or anthopogenic CO2 increase. The more I read pro- and contra, the more I come to realise that agnosticism is the only sane position for me.
A more informative exercise is to use the Scripps seasonally adjusted monthly CO2 averages, convert to global gigitons/year (annual difference or accumulation rate) and compare the cyclic behavior to the relatively straight line for anthropogenic emissions. They average about the same but the natural cycles vary by orders of magnitude. This does not play well for cause and effect.
Steve Fitzpatrick says:
June 7, 2010 at 6:07 pm
“No, the level will only fall to the natural background level of the ocean”
But not in Willis’ formula – no such level appears. Try it – P goes to zero.
I had assumed Willis was doing that in my earlier comment, and said the background level needed to be updated. But it seems that he’s been using zero.
On concrete, I think we’re agreeing that the end product is a calcium silicate, and the CO2 can’t come back as Steve Goddard suggested.
“Nick Stokes says:
June 7, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Steve Fitzpatrick says:
June 7, 2010 at 6:07 pm
“No, the level will only fall to the natural background level of the ocean”
But not in Willis’ formula – no such level appears. Try it – P goes to zero.
I had assumed Willis was doing that in my earlier comment, and said the background level needed to be updated. But it seems that he’s been using zero.”
OK Willis, what say you? I don’t think it can fall below the long-term background level.
John Finn says:
June 7, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Malaga View says:
June 7, 2010 at 12:52 pm
The Real Co2 site by Ernst-Georg Beck is very interesting:
http://www.biomind.de/realCO2/realCO2-1.htm
Especially the Atmospheric CO2 Background 1826-1960 diagram:
http://www.biomind.de/realCO2/bilder/CO2back1826-1960eorevk.jpg
Seems a lot more natural and believable than the ice core flat lining….
So a drop of ~80 ppm in a few years around 194o is believable is it?
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Yes, I find it believable, especially when you go from Bern Germany with Duerst to Barrow Alaska with Scholander to Chapman in Nebrasca. Heck you see more than 80 ppm variation in Harvard forest. From 320 ppm to around 420 ppm with a set of outliers to 500 ppm as Beck shows.
The only reason “official source” data does not have that type of variation is because it is not RAW DATA. And I quote:
“At Mauna Loa we use the following data selection criteria:
3. There is often a diurnal wind flow pattern on Mauna Loa ….. The upslope air may have CO2 that has been lowered by plants removing CO2 through photosynthesis at lower elevations on the island,…. Hours that are likely affected by local photosynthesis are indicated by a “U” flag in the hourly data file, and by the blue color in Figure 2. The selection to minimize this potential non-background bias takes place as part of step 4. At night the flow is often downslope, bringing background air. However, that air is sometimes contaminated by CO2 emissions from the crater of Mauna Loa. As the air meanders down the slope that situation is characterized by high variability of the CO2 mole fraction…..
4. In keeping with the requirement that CO2 in background air should be steady, we apply a general “outlier rejection” step, in which we fit a curve to the preliminary daily means for each day calculated from the hours surviving step 1 and 2, and not including times with upslope winds. All hourly averages that are further than two standard deviations, calculated for every day, away from the fitted curve (“outliers”) are rejected. This step is iterated until no more rejections occur…..”
If any data that is not within 2 standard deviations is rejected then of course you will never see swing of 80 ppm, it has already been edited out of the final “product”
Michael
C12 and C13 are not radioisotopes therefore their concentration ratio does not change, the only radioisotope is C14 which is created in the upper atmosphere by the action of cosmic rays on N14 thus the abundance of C14 will vary with solar variability and has a half life of 5300 years, this property is used in carbon dating. Isotopes have the same chemical properties but they do have different physical properties such as absorbtion through a semipermeable membrane i.e. leaves and the plants ability to uptake CO2 with different isotopes, so a plant will have a different C12/C13 ratio than normally found on the surface. Fossil fuels are the product of plants and have been buried for millions of years thus the C14 content is very low and the C12/C13 ratio is different from surface conditions so by tracking the C12/C13 and C14 trends in atmospheric CO2 certain conclusion are drawn as to the source of the CO2. Unfortunaely like most things conclusions drawn from these observations are not as simple as they appear so the data is subject to considerable error.
Gail Combs says:
June 7, 2010 at 6:46 pm ,
Woa. Too much speculation there. Please note that air samples collected by airplanes match the Mauna Loa (and Barrow Alaska, and Antarctica) data stations almost perfectly. There is very good reason to believe the procedures used a Mauna Loa lead to CO2 data that is representative of the upper troposphere…. which is what matters.
Daniel
Ch1 Page1 of IPCC AR4 has an anecdote concerning Albert Einstein which I must admit sets the gold standard for scientific proof per AE ” why 100 it only takes one providing he has testable results” the secracy surrounding the data and computer programs negates a lot of the IPCC data on the grounds that it is not testable.
bubbagyro says:
June 7, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Gail:
Here is the direct answer to your question from the good scientists at Scripps Oceanographic:….
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Thank you. I will add it to my notes. The whole set of data is just too smooth and that includes present day data. Beck’s historic data and the Harvard Forest data show swings of up to 200 ppm, yet we are to believe the levels hardly varied for millions of years while the earth went through ice ages and major changes in plant and animal life??? That the present day data shows a straight line trend over decades with little variation from place to place on the earth’s surface???
I sure wish my production analysis data was that nice and neat from day to day.
Actually the ice core CO2 data looks more like a “process” that has reached equilibrium than a geologic record.
Richard S Courtney: June 7, 2010 at 11:06 am
Richard, here’s another version of Faraday’s reply:
It would seem that Faraday wasn’t just smart, but also prescient. The extension of what he said is utterly germane to what is happening today.
/dr.bill
I believe they can determine the cycling time of carbon in the atmosphere pretty precisely based on radioactive carbon-14. Basically, IIRC each of the big atmospheric fusion bomb explosions in the 1960s generated a spike of C-14. This soon becomes globally distributed in the atmosphere and gets incorporated into plants, mud layers, etc., and then its fate can be tracked as it ages & as the spike works it way into various systems.
A correction to my earlier comment. (June 7, 2010 at 10:19 am)
1/ I undersized the atmosphere and
2/ I used ppmw without converting to ppmv.
Sorry.
To pick up from where I have made the corrections.
Total CO2 from burning all known fossil fuel reserves would be 2,340,140 billion kg. Loads! – but what is that in ppmv of the total atmosphere? Well…
The total mass of the atmosphere is 5.3E18 kg
(http://scipp.ucsc.edu/outreach/balloon/atmos/The%20Earth.htm)
Total mass of atmosphere: 5.1E18 kg
(http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/earthfact.html)
Atmospheric mass is between 5 and 5.5E18 kg
(http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/LouiseLiu.shtml)
The difference seems to be mainly the extent to which the mountainous regions are taken into effect (where pressure is lower).
Using our golden rule of trying for the highest possible CO2 level we will use the smallest given figure of 5E18 kg for atmospheric mass. 2,340,140 billion kg / 5,000,000,000 billion kg = 468ppmw which is about 308ppmv of CO2 to be produced by burning all the known reserves of fossil fuel.
(My ppmw to ppmv conversion above uses an air to CO2 molecular mass ratio of 28.97/44.01)
(http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/molecular-mass-air-d_679.html)
Except that only 40% of that will stay in the atmosphere for any meaningful length of time. A constant unchanging 40% by the way. Knorr, W. (2009), Is the airborne fraction of anthropogenic CO2 emissions increasing?, Geophys. Res. Lett., 36, L21710, doi:10.1029 / 2009GL040613.
(http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/knorr2009_co2_sequestration.pdf)
This reduces the potential CO2 from burning all known reserves of fossil fuel to just 123ppmv beyond where we are now. Given what Willis Eschenbach tells us here about natural out-gassing; however much is in the oceans most of it seems to be staying there. There may be another 20ppmv to come from “feed-back” out-gassing, giving us 143ppmv in all?
Even if the IPCC are right about 3degC per doubling of CO2 that means we would struggle to find much more than 1degC of warming left in all remaining fossil fuels with feed-backs. Added to post industrial warming to date that still sees us struggling to reach 2degC above pre-industrial levels.
And…relax.
barry moore says:
June 7, 2010 at 5:42 pm
I answer the questions that I think are important. Since you haven’t raised any substantive issues in this post, and since you want to insult me instead of simply quoting the question that you think is so important, go find someone else to answer your questions.