This is the face on environmentalism today – publicly issued threats from Greenpeace
We need to hit them where it hurts most, by any means necessary: through the power of our votes, our taxes, our wallets, and more.
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The proper channels have failed. It’s time for mass civil disobedience to cut off the financial oxygen from denial and skepticism.
If you’re one of those who believe that this is not just necessary but also possible, speak to us. Let’s talk about what that mass civil disobedience is going to look like.
If you’re one of those who have spent their lives undermining progressive climate legislation, bankrolling junk science, fueling spurious debates around false solutions, and cattle-prodding democratically-elected governments into submission, then hear this:
We know who you are. We know where you live. We know where you work.
And we be many, but you be few.
“…but you be few”
Yeah sure, whatever you say. Newsflash to Green Gene from Greenpeace India who wrote this.
Seen the latest US Gallup poll?
Gallup: Americans’ Global Warming Concerns Continue to Drop
Or maybe this one in the UK?
Or How about this one in Germany?
SPIEGEL Survey: How Germans Feel about Climate Change
Or the fact that the French gave up on carbon taxing?
French give up on carbon tax plan – for now
I’d say you and your friends are mightily outnumbered. h/t to WUWT reader “kwik”
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Andrew (06:27:42) :
Craig – If we were in charge then Obama wouldn’t be announcing off shore drilling, there would be net zero deforestation, a network of marine reserves would cover 40% of the worlds oceans, and this conversation would be powered by wind and solar.
LOL!
“And we be many, but you be few.
Ummm, I think you better check that math on that boys.”
Grammar, too.
@Jimbo.
If Greenpeace really want to ‘disrupt the CO2 chain’ maybe they should consider chopping down the Amazon rainforest and pouring acid into the Pacific Ocean – that would do the trick if I understand the CO2 cycle correctly
Gee ‘Goonpeace’ knows who we are, where we live and where we work. If this is true, then they would know we aint getting a penny from anyone for doing our duty. Although when they find out who we are, they can always adjust the data and make us all proxy billionaires.
“..The proper channels have failed. It’s time for mass civil disobedience to cut off the financial oxygen from denial and skepticism…”
What they seem to be missing is that there is no single valve, no single source. Worse yet, if they effectively cripple an energy industry and increase costs to the consumer, the ripple effect backlash will do them far more harm and alienate the unwitting public that currently supports them.
Btw, I told them to email me if they’d lost my address. Disobedience on my property or to me results in uncomfortable stimulation of nerve endings.
Michael Crichton is crowing and saying, “I told you so!”
Greenpeace: the biggest terrorist organization on the planet.
So;
Not Green
Not Peaceful
Someone needs a new Mission Statement methinks!
I suggest they storm Fort Knox, Marine Corp Base Quantico and for good measure, try to shut down the NYSE.
“we be many, but you be few”
I may be wrong here but I think the opinion polls say otherwise.
“We be many, but you be few.”
Don’t take this too lightly. What they mean is:
“We have an army of full-time, experienced, well-funded, professional and semi-professional above-the-law devotees of agit-prop, and a large following of useful idiots; but you, skeptics, have few (if any) of those things.”
I’d call this eco fascism and green’peace’ is the organization behind.
Okay, maybe Andrew and Peter Hearnden are right. We drop fossil fuels and adopt alternatives. Perhaps these gentlemen could explain to me what comes next? I will gladly consider their plans if they help me to understand their plans. If you are going to lead, you have to have somewhere to go. Help me out here, as it is difficult to make the leap without my family suffering. For myself, I am not worried, but I can only go along with your ideals if I am certain my family will be safe and healthy. This may be a big hurdle, but it is the one you will have to overcome with the general public. I await your reply.
Greenpeace could soon attract Neoconservatives to trump up some evidence that GP possesses WMD and is aiding OBL with this kind of talk. There’s always Jeb Bush…
“We know where you live.”
Implied threat of physical harm.
File with your local FBI office, department of homeland security or other security organisation.
Nothing less than cowardly pussy terrorists masquerading as environmentalists.
To Andrew from Greenpeace:
If Gene didn’t mean to be threatening and intimidating, then he needs to say so very clearly. Becuase as it stands, his article reads like a threat of violence to me. That is the usual implication of the stock phrase “We know where you live” – surely Gene is aware of that? If he isn’t, you need to explain it to him.
Andrew (02:39:54) :
Well, I’ve known Gene for years, and can can comfortably say a couple things about him…
1) He’s no blowhard.
2) He’s a genuinely peaceful guy.
Have you spoken to him recently? His words are those of an “Apocalyptic True Believer” — the sort who can be radicalized in a very short time by a person adept at manipulating people’s emotions.
Yeah, he’s up for direct action – that means civil disobedience, protests and the sort. It doesn’t mean violence.
A call for direct action *is* a call for violence. It’s the euphemism every Western radical from syndico-anarchist to bright-Red revolutionary uses to avoid using the v-word — makes it easier for their lawyers to get them more lenient sentences. But don’t take my word for it — read Bill Ayers’ manifesto, “Prairie Fire.”
Expect more of this from the green movement. We’ve entered the ‘social marketing’ phase of the anthropogenic global warming movement.
Greenpeace has been patting itself on its back for ‘unearthing’ Koch Industries. Apparently they’ve been researching for months for this. :)a
They are also bright enough to think of themselves as a spontaneous group involved in environmental protection whereas the skeptical world is made of mindless zombies kept animated on financial oxygen.
More about the marketing of climate change
Andrew (06:27:42) :
Craig – If we were in charge then Obama wouldn’t be announcing off shore drilling, there would be net zero deforestation, a network of marine reserves would cover 40% of the worlds oceans, and this conversation would be powered by wind and solar.
So you consider the whole planet to be your personal zoo.
Rich Day (09:43:53) :
I suggest they storm Fort Knox, Marine Corp Base Quantico and for good measure, try to shut down the NYSE.
Simultaneously.
Lotta training ammo available for the tankers at Knox, and I hear the Marines are looking for a few good combatives targets — ummmmmm — assistant instructors. Not sure about the NYSE, though. I don’t think Wall Streeters are in any mood to take live prisoners…
Dr Patrick Moore left this organisation he co-founded because it became anti-scientific, anti-human, irrational and elitist.
Everything Greenpeace does is to help one corporation over another or to hinder development in poorer countries, especially on a racial basis. If you’re brown Greenpeace doesn’t want you to live in a house or drive a car. It wants you to live up to the myth of the noble savage and not use the energy resources that should be reserved for wealthy countries.
It is strange that Greenpeace dont like CO2.
CO2, food for green life. More three-growth, less deserts.
Very strange. They should love CO2.
“And we be many, but you be few.”
What are they trying to do now? Scare us with the ‘pirate’ talk? We be many, Jim lad! You be few! Arrrrrrrrr!
I’m positively shaking.
Not a threat but a promise to Greenpeace:
This Climate Realist, together with other AGW pacifists, realists, denialists, skeptics and dissidents, will hit AGW distortionists and eco-terrorists where it hurts most, by any means necessary: through the power of our logic, our discussions, our donations, political involvement, and more.
The proper channels are succeeding. It is time to step up mass political, social and scientific involvement to cut off the improper and dishonest influence AGW has had on plastic politicians and trough-feeding, activist scientists worldwide.
As one who believes this is not just necessary but also possible, we speak to you, AGW distortionists and eco-terrorists: We will report and counter your mass civil disobedience with a global watch, rule of law, logical persuasion, and friendly discourse.
As one who has spent his life studying and applying the precepts of science and engineering for the betterment of myself, my family, friends, neighbors and all mankind, I and others like me refute your Progressive climate legislation, junk science, and threatening tone. Your anti-civilized behavior supported by spurious debate based on false data, false premise, and false solutions makes your AGW theory impossible to convincingly defend. As you apply your methods of violence, threats, and coercion, and by pitch-forking politicians to yield to your warped set of values, hear this:
Our primary weapon is the Internet; our bullets include the vast array of scientific arguments that refute your false positions and misinformation campaign. We are not afraid of your hysteria and your death threats. As someone who has lost the argument, you have now turned to violence.
We know who you are and will send the police to round you up if you behave in a criminal manner. You are on notice. We will use all means to defend ourselves, our family, friends, community, and country. We are not without resources and certainly not without resolve.
Our cause is peace, our approach is logical, and our methods are scientific.
You may be many, but you are becoming far fewer.
Just if you don’t know: the “Gene” is Gene Hashmi, the communication director of Greenpeace India. Sources proving the statement and extra data about it on my blog:
http://motls.blogspot.com/2010/04/greenpeace-we-know-where-you-live.html
Argh, not the MWP, I meant the LIA. That’ll teach me to post without coffee. Grrr!