Academics fight back on climate issues

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Here’s their formal response. I’m providing this from: http://www.openletterfromscientists.com for all to see here and to discuss. – Anthony

An Open Letter from Scientists in the United States on the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and Errors Contained in the Fourth Assessment Report: Climate Change 2007

[Note:  More than 250 scientists have already signed this open letter and signatures are still being collected. On Friday, March 12, 2010, when the letter has been delivered to federal agencies, a list of signers will be posted. The vast majority of the signers are climate change scientists who work at leading U.S. universities and institutions. They include both IPCC and non-IPCC authors. Additional signers include professionals from related disciplines, including physical, biological and social scientists.  If you are a scientist wishing to sign the letter, please see the note below. If you have any questions, please contact the letter’s authors, contact information is below.]

Dear Colleagues:

We have written an open letter about the IPCC process, media attention, errors, and suggestions for improvement, which we are circulating to both IPCC authors and other scientists in the US. We plan to send the letter to the US Congress, State Department, EPA, NOAA, the Office of Science and Technology Policy, the Council on Environmental Quality, and other relevant US agencies and organizations.

If you would like to be a co-signer of the letter, please send your name and institutional affiliation to Gary Yohe at gyohe@wesleyan.edu by close of business on Friday, March 12. A note on the letter will say: ‘Signatories’ affiliations are listed for identification only and should not be interpreted as representing official institutional positions.’

Because it won’t be possible to coordinate multiple versions, we do not plan to edit this letter further at this juncture. However, if you do have comments, please feel free to include them in your email response.

Please circulate the open letter to your colleagues if you would like. We apologize for any cross-listings in advance.

Best,

Gary Yohe

Steve Schneider

Cynthia Rosenzweig

Bill Easterling

***********************************************

Many in the popular press and other media, as well as some in the halls of Congress, are seizing on a few errors that have been found in the Fourth Assessment Report (AR4) of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in an attempt to discredit the entire report.  None of the handful of mis-statements (out of hundreds and hundreds of unchallenged statements) remotely undermines the conclusion that “warming of the climate system is unequivocal” and that most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the mid-twentieth century is very likely due to observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations. Despite its excellent performance for accurately reporting the state-of-the-science, we certainly acknowledge that the IPCC should become more forthcoming in openly acknowledging errors in a timely fashion, and continuing to improve its assessment procedures to further lower the already very low rate of error.

It is our intention in offering this open letter to bring the focus back to credible science, rather than invented hyperbole, so that it can bear on the policy debate in the United States and throughout the world.  We first discuss some of the key messages from climate science and then elaborate on IPCC procedures, with particular attention to the quality-control mechanisms of the IPCC.  Finally we offer some suggestions about what might be done next to improve IPCC practices and restore full trust in climate science.

The Climate Challenge

Our understanding of human contributions to climate change and the associated urgency for humans to respond has improved dramatically over the past two decades.  Many of the major components of the climate system are now well understood, though there are still sources of significant uncertainty (like the processes that produce the observed rapid ice-sheet melting and/or collapse in the polar regions).  It is now well established, for example, that atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases from human sources have increased rapidly since the Industrial Revolution.  Increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere reduce the heat going out of the climate system, i.e., the radiation balance of the Earth – and so first principles of physics tell us to expect, with a very high likelihood, that higher temperatures should have been observed.

Indeed, measurements of global average temperatures show an increase of about 0.6 degrees C over the twentieth century and about 0.8 degrees C warming since mid-19th century.  The pattern of increase has not been smooth or monotonic.  There have been several 10- to 15-year periods of stable or declining temperatures over the past 150 years, but 14 of the warmest 15 years on record have been experienced between 1995 and 2009.  Since 1970, observational evidence from all continents and most oceans shows that many natural systems are already being affected by these temperature increases.

Because the long-term warming trends are highly significant relative to our estimates of the magnitude of natural variability, the current decadal period of stable global mean temperature does nothing to alter a fundamental conclusion from the AR4: warming has unequivocally been observed and documented.  Moreover, well-understood lags in the responsiveness of the climate system to disturbances like greenhouse gas increases mean that the current temperature plateau will very likely not persist much longer. Global climate model projections show that present-day greenhouse gas concentrations have already committed the planet to about 0.5 degree C in warming over this century.

Increasing emissions of carbon dioxide from the consumption of coal, oil and natural gas as well as deforestation have been the major drivers of this observed warming.  While we cannot predict the details of our climate future with a high degree of certainty, the majority of studies from a large number of research groups in the US and elsewhere project that unabated emissions could produce between 1 and 6 degrees C more warming through the year 2100.

Other research has identified multiple reasons to be concerned about climate change; these apply to the United States as well as globally.  They include (1) risks to unique and threatened systems (including human communities), (2) risks from extreme events (like coastal storms, floods, droughts, heat waves, and wildfires), (3) economic damages (driven by, for example, pest infestations or inequities in the capacity to adapt), (4) risks from large-scale abrupt climate change (e.g., ice-sheet collapse, ocean circulation slowing, sharply increased methane emissions from permafrost) or abrupt impacts of more predictable climate change (generated by thresholds in the coping capacities of natural and human systems to climate variability), and (5) risks to national security (driven largely by extreme events across the world interacting with already-stressed situations).

These sources of risk and the potential for triggering temperature-driven impacts at lower thresholds, as well as the explicit recognition in the AR4 that risk is the product of likelihood and consequence, led the nations of the world to take note of the Copenhagen Accord last December.  The Accord highlights 2 degrees C in warming as a target that might reduce the chance of “dangerous anthropogenic interference with the climate system” to more manageable levels.  Research has shown that increasing the likelihood of achieving this goal over the next century is economically and technically feasible with emission reduction measures and changes in consumption patterns; but it will not be easy without major national and international actions to deviate substantially from the status quo.

The IPCC and the Fourth Assessment Report

The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) and the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) established the IPCC in 1988 to provide policy makers regularly with balanced assessments of the state of knowledge on climate change.  In so doing, they created an open intergovernmental organization in which scientists, policy analysts, engineers, and resource managers from all over the world were asked to collaborate.  At present, more than 150 countries including the United States participate in the IPCC.  IPCC publishes an assessment report approximately every six years.  The most recent Fourth Assessment, approved by member countries and released in 2007, contained three volumes: The Physical Science Basis (Working Group I); Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability (Working Group II) and Mitigation of Climate Change (Working Group III) and a Synthesis Report.  More than 44 writing teams and 450 lead authors contributed to the Fourth Assessment – authors who have been selected on the basis of their expertise in consultation with all member countries and who were assisted by another 800 scientists and analysts who served as contributing authors on specific topics.  Authors donated their time gratis, and the entire process was supported by four Technical Support Units (TSUs) that employ 5 to 10 people each.

Errors in the Fourth Assessment Report

It was hard not to notice the extraordinary commotion that erupted around errors that were eventually found in the AR4.  The wrong year for the projected disappearance of the Himalayan glaciers and the wrong percentage of ‘land below sea level’ in the Netherlands are examples of errors that need to be acknowledged frankly and rectified promptly.  In a few other cases, like the discussion of the correlations between crop yields, climate change, and climate variability in North Africa, caveats that were carefully crafted within the chapters were not included when language was shortened for the Synthesis Report. While striving to simplify technical details and summarize major points, some important qualifications were left behind. These errors of omission in the summary process should also be recognized and corrected. Other claims, like the one reported at the end of February suggesting that the AR4 did not mention the millions of more people who will see increases in water availability that were reported in the cited literature along with the millions of more people who will be at risk of water shortage, are simply not true.  In any case, it is essential to emphasize that none of these interventions alter the key finding from the AR4 that human beings are very likely changing the climate, with far-reaching impacts in the long run.

The heated debates that have emerged around these instances have even led some to question the quality and integrity of the IPCC.  Recent events have made it clear that the quality control procedures of the IPCC are not watertight, but claims of widespread and deliberate manipulation of scientific data and fundamental conclusions in the AR4 are not supported by the facts.  We also strongly contest the impression that the main conclusions of the report are based on dubious sources. The reference list of the AR4 contains about 18,000 citations, the vast majority of which were published in peer-reviewed scientific journals. The IPCC also has transparent procedures for using published but not peer-reviewed sources in their reports.  These procedures were not properly followed in the isolated Himalaya case, but that statement was never elevated into the Summary for Policymakers of either Working Group II or the Synthesis Report – documents that were approved unanimously and word for word by all member nations.

Nonetheless, failsafe compliance with these procedures requires extra attention in the writing of the next round of assessments.  We propose implementing a topic-based cross-chapter review process by which experts in an impact area of climate change, such as changes in water resources, scrutinize the assessment of related vulnerability, risk analyses, and adaptation strategies that work downstream from such changes.  Here we mean, to continue the example, assessments of possible increases in flooding damage in river basins and the potential for wetlands to provide buffers in the sectoral and regional chapters. This would be most productively implemented just before the first-order draft, so that chapter authors can be alerted to potential problems before the major review step.

Quality Control within the IPCC and US Review

The impression that the IPCC does not have a proper quality-control procedure is deeply mistaken. The procedure for compiling reports and assuring its quality control is governed by well-documented principles that are reviewed regularly and amended as appropriate.  Even now, every step in the preparation of every chapter can be traced on a website: First Order Drafts (with comments by many scientists as well as author responses to those comments), Second Order Drafts in which those comments are incorporated (and comments by experts and country representatives on revised versions as well as another round of author responses), and so on, up through the final, plenary-approved versions.

To be clear, 2,500 reviewers together provided about 90,000 comments on the 44 chapters for the AR4.  Each comment is documented on a website that also describes how and why the comment was or was not incorporated in the next revision.  Review editors for each chapter worked with the authors to guarantee that each comment was treated properly and honestly in the revision; in fact, no chapter can ever move forward for publication without the approval of its set of two or three review editors.

The US Government opened its reviews of the draft IPCC report to any US expert who wanted to review it. In order to protect against having this preliminary pre-reviewed draft leaked before its ultimate approval by the IPCC Plenary, the US Government asked all potential reviewers to agree not to disclose the contents of the draft.  For each report, the US Government assembled its own independent panel of government experts to vet the comments before submission to the IPCC. Anything with scientific merit was forwarded.  There were multiple rounds for each of the Working Group reports and the Synthesis Report, and opportunities for US experts to review the drafts were posted as Federal Register notices.

IPCC principles also govern how authors treat published but non-peer reviewed sources. These procedures acknowledge that peer-reviewed scientific journals contain little information about on-the-ground implementation of adaptation or mitigation – matters such as the emission reduction potential in a given industrial sector or country, for example, or catalogues of the specific vulnerabilities and adaptation strategies of sectors and regions with regard to climate change.  This information is frequently only available in reports from research institutes, reports of workshops and conferences, or in publications from industries or other non-governmental organizations.  This is the so-called gray literature. The IPCC procedure prescribes that authors are obliged to assess critically any gray source that they wish to include. The quality and validity of a finding from a non-peer reviewed source needs to be verified before its finding may be included in a chapter text.  Each source needs to be completely traceable; and in cases where gray sources are used, a copy must be deposited at the IPCC Secretariat to guarantee that it is available upon request for third parties.

We conclude that the IPCC procedures are transparent and thorough, even though they are not infallible.  Nonetheless, we are confident that no single scholar or small group of scholars can manipulate the process to include or to exclude a specific line of research; authors of that research can (and are fully encouraged to) participate in the review process.  Moreover, the work of every scientist, regardless of whether it supports or rejects the premise of human-induced climate change, is subject to inclusion in the reports.  The work is included or rejected for consideration based on its scientific merit.

It is important to note that we are not addressing here the criteria and procedures by which the IPCC selects chairs and authors. These are handled exclusively by the IPCC and its members according to terms of reference that were initially defined in the authorizing language of 1988.  That is to say, governments or their appointees frame and implement these policies; and they create, approve and staff Technical Support Units for each working group. We do not make suggestions on these topics since they lie beyond our purview.

What comes next?

We expect that the robust findings of the AR4 will be continue to be supported by new information gleaned from literature published since 2006 — i.e., that the climate change issue is serious and real.  Given these findings, we believe that the climate change issue deserves the urgent and non-partisan consideration of the country’s legislative and administrative leaders.  We feel strongly that exaggerated focus on a few errors from 2007 cannot be allowed to detract from open and honest deliberations about how to respond to climate risk by reducing emissions and promoting adaptation at home and abroad.

As the process of producing the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report (AR5) begins, the IPCC should become more responsive in acknowledging errors rapidly and openly as they become known. To this end, we urge the IPCC to put an erratum on its website that rectifies all errors that have been discovered in the text after publication.  In doing so, a clear distinction needs to be made between errors and progressing knowledge.  IPCC assessments are detailed snapshots of the state of scientific knowledge at a given time, while knowledge evolves continuously through ongoing research and experience; it is the errors in the assessments that need immediate attention.  In contrast, progressing knowledge is published in new scientific journal articles and reports; this information should be used as a basis for the AR5, but it cannot be listed as errata for the AR4 because it was not available when that assessment was conducted.  The website should, as well, respond rapidly and openly when reports of errors in past assessments are themselves in error.  We cannot let misperceptions fester anymore than errors go uncorrected.

Climate research and the IPCC reports on the state of knowledge provide a scientific foundation for climate policy making, whose agenda is defined by the governments of the IPCC and not the lead authors per se.  The quality of and the balance in the knowledge delivered by any assessment is certainly essential, as is clear and explicit communication of associated uncertainties.  Given the recent political and media commotion surrounding a few clear errors, it is now equally essential that we find ways to restore full trust in the integrity of the overwhelming majority of the climate change research and policy communities.  To that end, we are pleased that an independent critical evaluation of IPCC procedures will be conducted; we hope that the process will solicit participation by the National Academies of the member nations.

The significance of IPCC errors has been greatly exaggerated by many sensationalist accounts, but that is no reason to avoid implementing procedures to make the assessment process even better. The public has a right to know the risks of climate change as scientists currently understand them. We are dedicated to working with our colleagues and government in furthering that task.

March 10, 2010

Signed:

Gary W. Yohe                          Wesleyan University and Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies

gyohe@wesleyan.edu

Stephen H. Schneider               Stanford University

shs@stanford.edu

Cynthia Rosenzweig                 NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies and Columbia University

crosenzweig@giss.nasa.gov

William E. Easterling               Pennsylvania State University

billeasterling@psu.edu

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Adrian Ocneanu
March 15, 2010 9:42 am

Shouldn’t we have an IPCW, with CW as in Climate Watch, instead of IPCC?
Shouldn’t IPCC be established AFTER the first well documented, measured instance of clearly unprecedented climate change?

March 15, 2010 9:50 am

“Robust”, again?

Mike Bryant
March 15, 2010 9:54 am

“fredb (07:48:53) :
Flame away, I guess.”
No flames from me… The truth will set you free…

Dan in California
March 15, 2010 9:56 am

“The significance of IPCC errors has been greatly exaggerated by many sensationalist accounts”
Please identify one sensationalist account. As far as I have seen, the sensationalist accounts are all part of the AGW scare mongering tactics used by Gore and Hanson. I am reminded of the movie “Back to School” in which the pompous professor lectured the successful businessman on how to set up a business.

March 15, 2010 9:57 am

Many of the major components of the climate system are now well understood
And many are not. Say clouds for instance. So what is your point?
Oh. Yeah. Another shake of the money tree. Good luck with that.

Steve J
March 15, 2010 9:57 am

These self proclaimed “scientists” are showing gross disrespect for their colleagues – by continuing the party line.
Science should not be like politics where it is supposed that if you tell a lie over and over, eventually it will be believed.
I am not sure what we should do with this list, they are advocating a reduction in CO2, and if that occurs we are talking about a massive reduction in the food supply. A massive reduction in the food supply will cause starvation – can you say genocide?
Perhaps this issue of genocide should be aired in the court of public opinion – the courts are obviously too ignorant.

March 15, 2010 10:02 am

. . . It is now well established, for example, that atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases from human sources have increased rapidly since the Industrial Revolution. Increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere reduce the heat going out of the climate system, i.e., the radiation balance of the Earth – and so first principles of physics tell us to expect, with a very high likelihood, that higher temperatures should have been observed.
Indeed, measurements of global average temperatures show an increase of about 0.6 degrees C over the twentieth century and about 0.8 degrees C warming since mid-19th century. . .

[my emphasis]
There, in a nutshell, is their whole argument. “First principles of physics” (what the Goracle called “a natural law, like gravity”) predict increasing CO2 causes increased temperatures, and—lo and behold!—CO2 has gone up, and so have temperatures!
Of course “The pattern of increase has not been smooth or monotonic,” but “the long-term warming trends are highly significant relative to our estimates of the magnitude of natural variability, [so] the current decadal period of stable global mean temperature does nothing to alter a fundamental conclusion from the AR4: warming has unequivocally been observed and documented.”
When the skeptics complain, “Correlation is not causation,” these alarmists can simply retort, “It’s a physical law, like gravity. You jump up, you come down. Every time. So CO2 goes up, temps go up. See?” And if the skeptics complain, “What about the ’70s? What about the present?” the alarmists simply respond, “‘The pattern of increase has not been smooth or monotonic’; a falling feather is buffeted by the wind, but still it falls. It’s ‘the long-term warming trends’ that count.”
The beauty of this argument is its simplicity. It is easily marketed to the public and the press, and to scientists who are not ‘climate scientists’. Quite irrespective of its appeal on political or emotional grounds (to statists and environmental activitists), I expect that for many scientists it satisfies the requirement of Occam’s Razor.
There is great virtue in parsimony, but none in over-simplification. Never mind that the actual effect of CO2 in the atmosphere is hotly disputed (is it logarithmic or not? is it multiplied or diminished by other factors? can it play more than a marginal ‘greenhouse’ role?), nor that the complicating effects of oceans, water vapor, clouds, winds, ocean currents, tropical thunderstorms are largely ignored, even, it is reported, by the complex computer models the alarmists place so much faith in.
The problem for the empiricist is that once the simplifier has promulgated his ‘law’, contrary evidence can be handily dismissed as ‘exceptions that prove the rule’. Even if we’ve been cooling, it’s just messy old oceanic cycles or something interfering with the inevitable course of things, which will resume presently. Even if heavy snow is covering the northern hemisphere, it’s just ‘global warming’ causing more evaporation and precipitation. You can’t win the argument, because every contrary datum can be explained away as just a complicating wrinkle.
This happens all the time in science, as Thomas Kuhn demonstrated; eventually a paradigm can be overturned by the sheer weight of exceptions. The problem here is that the over-simple ‘greenhouse’ paradigm has become the centerpiece of an international political movement. It’s as if the medieval theory of imbalanced ‘humors’ causing disease were seized upon by the UN and all the governments of the world which then insisted that no other treatments could be countenanced or supported. The sheer weight of officialdom and vast sums of money supporting the ‘orthodox’ view is unprecedented in science (since Lysenkoism, at any rate). Too many institutions and too many people have too much invested in the ‘climate change’ mantra to let it simply join the wastebasket of discarded theories.
In other words, the establishment(s) are going to “fight back,” and although the arguments will sound ‘scientific’, they will really represent intrenched vested interests. Despite the establishment complaints about a ‘well-funded’, ‘organized’ skeptical movement, the alarmists have every advantage over what is really a ragtag, grassroots upswelling within the new media. So long as they can keep the controversies over Climategate, the Hockeystick, and the IPCC errors confined to the Internet, the conflict will take place largely outside the purview of the mass media and the halls of government, industry, and finance.
What has to happen is a breakthrough, perhaps a few public conversions by prominent warmists. We need them to acknowledge that, “We were wrong. CO2 is not a pollutant; it is not a problem; it does not cause any measurable warming. There is no need for radical mitigation, no need to stop using fossil fuels. We were overzealous because we feared for the planet, but now we realize it’s in pretty good shape after all, and we’re sorry.”
When that happens, it will burst upon the public like a thunderstorm, and the alarmist movement will collapse of its own weight.
/Mr Lynn

DirkH
March 15, 2010 10:11 am

Trenberth/Fasullo : Tracking Earth’s energy: From El Niño to global warming
http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache%3Ay1BBdODlQ8QJ%3Awww.cgd.ucar.edu%2Fcas%2FTrenberth%2Ftrenberth.papers%2FTracking%2520Energyv5.pdf
For unknown reasons i was only able to see it via the google cache. Does anyone have a better working link?

March 15, 2010 10:30 am

Don (05:51:00) :
What exactly is a “climate change scientist?”

That would be similar to a “diaper change scientist”. You may fill in the rest at your own risk. But I can tell you one thing. It is worse than we thought.

Dennis Wingo
March 15, 2010 10:32 am

I just google the first name, Tom Adams, and he is a leading biofuels researcher.
http://www.uga.edu/news/artman/publish/070518_Biofuel.shtml
Considering your newer post on the CO2 impact of biofuels, why is this guy pushing climate change?
How many of these people have the competence to comment on the subject?

Dennis Wingo
March 15, 2010 10:35 am

“The significance of IPCC errors has been greatly exaggerated by many sensationalist accounts, but that is no reason to avoid implementing procedures to make the assessment process even better. The public has a right to know the risks of climate change as scientists currently understand them. We are dedicated to working with our colleagues and government in furthering that task.”
Whether or not you “believe” in AGW, the IPCC does not have the competence to dictate mitigation strategies. That is best left to the engineering community.

Editor
March 15, 2010 10:43 am

Sou (04:52:49) :
Now, why would you link to an article about a report when you can link to the report itself? The joint BoM / CSIRO report can be found here:
http://www.csiro.au/resources/State-of-the-Climate.html
Anyone who does care to look it at it will find it a slick piece of fluff and mendacity: propaganda constructed by the “Communication Manager
Sustainable Ecosystems” and issued by the Rudd Government.
No, Sou, we are not prepared to hear any more appeals to authority.

Editor
March 15, 2010 11:07 am

It was never about the science. One of the signers is “Gus Speth, Yale University”. Dr. James Augustus Speth, dean of the Yale University School of Forestry & Environmental Studies, has an interesting pedigree and rates his own wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Speth
His thinking on environmentalism and politics can be found here:
http://www.e360.yale.edu/content/feature.msp?id=2075
Read it and be afraid.

Paul Nevins
March 15, 2010 11:25 am

I too, am looking forward to the list of “scientists” who sign this thing. As a scientist and a science educator it will be helpful to me in advising my students where not to go for quality science education. With any luck it could be a useful tool for advising on both the graduate and undergrad levels.
The errors in the IPCC report are only minor in relation to the howling screamers in the global temperature record.

CRS, Dr.P.H.
March 15, 2010 11:31 am

OceanTwo (08:30:52) :
The scientists are using an extreme scientific threat. I can’t recall anywhere in history that such extremism is or has been effective – essentially, do this or millions will die.
—–
I’ll give you two:
a) avian influenza pandemic preparedness – as the H5N1 flu virus (not the recent H1N1 swine flu variant) continued to infect poultry flocks and wild birds in Asia and elsewhere, the public health infrastructure geared up with a major panic campaign to stimulate funding for equipment, training etc. Forecasts were more dire than for AGW, calling back a black-death type of scenario. Haven’t heard much about bird flu lately, have we?
Dr. Mike Osterholm of Univ of MN was on “Oprah,” spinning a REAL scare-monger spiel! “Science can’t save you, there is no treatment, pregnant women will will die in the streets….” Easily as bad as anything I’ve seen Al Gore spin. I knew some who were in a state of panic from that one show.
b) bioterrorism – after the events of 9/11, we endured an anthrax attack upon media offices that caused illness in postal workers and others in the US northeast. This led to a widespread panic among the public health community, including calls for mandatory smallpox vaccinations of all police, fire and healthcare providers. I was proud to work for the man who was influential in pulling the plug on that misdirected, panic-driven policy.
Same-same…thanks to panic mongering, public health received tons of money for grants & equipment, just as the climate-change boys did for their research. Panic is profitable in science, sad but true. Unfortunately, when you cry wolf too many times, the public tunes you out, to our detriment in the eventuality of a genuine emergency.

Wondering Aloud
March 15, 2010 11:35 am

Regarding
“CRS, Dr.P.H. (08:18:34) :
fredb (07:48:53) :
About 5 hours since I posted, so assume I’ve been moderated out. But let me try again:
If I was a USA citizen, I would be pleased to sign this document. In effect it reinforces the fact that none of the “scandals” have changed the fundamental message, and that all continued accumulation of observed evidence subsequent to the AR4 only reinforces the same message.”
Where do you think you are? Real Climate? They didn’t edit you. Besides you gave us a good chuckle with the “continued accumulation” stuff. Best part is you seem unaware of the irony.

David Alan Evans
March 15, 2010 11:38 am

As has been noted, Hansen is not, (as yet,) a signatory of this letter.
I suspect he won’t sign it either, James Hansen sees himself as a latter day Robin Hood whereas crap & tirade is more like this…

As for CO2, from Vostok…
http://www.palisad.com/co2/slides/img7.gif
Best regards.
DaveE.

AnonyMoose
March 15, 2010 11:42 am

I haven’t seen so many clowns getting out of a car since that show in Copenhagen.

Sean Peake
March 15, 2010 11:46 am

As of 2:52 EDT, here is the link to those who signed:
http://www.openletterfromscientists.com/list-of-signers.html

Editor
March 15, 2010 11:52 am

Paul Nevins (11:25:01)
“… I too, am looking forward to the list of “scientists” who sign this thing…”
Well, if you follow Anthony’s links to the letter and scroll to the bottom of the page, you’ll find a link to the list of signers…. or you can click on the link below…
http://www.openletterfromscientists.com/list-of-signers.html

Richard Sharpe
March 15, 2010 11:52 am

DirkH (10:11:31) said:

Trenberth/Fasullo : Tracking Earth’s energy: From El Niño to global warming
http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache%3Ay1BBdODlQ8QJ%3Awww.cgd.ucar.edu%2Fcas%2FTrenberth%2Ftrenberth.papers%2FTracking%2520Energyv5.pdf
For unknown reasons i was only able to see it via the google cache. Does anyone have a better working link?

At the top of the cached page is a link to the PDF. I have included it here for your convenience.
http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/Trenberth/trenberth.papers/Tracking%20Energyv5.pdf

Wondering Aloud
March 15, 2010 11:56 am

For a good laugh copy and paste the signatories in the search bar. I did about a dozen, not a physical scientist in the bunch. The closest I ofund of anyone in terms of profession to competence on this issue was a statistician at Bowling Green; and if he actually thinks that the IPCC report isn’t crap in regards to statistics than Bowling Green may need some help in their math department.
Ok I’ll stop now… for a while

Laws of Nature
March 15, 2010 11:57 am

Hi there,
actually there are many sentences in this document I and maybe most of the readers here would sign woithout hesitation. However working together we might be able to point out a few differences in opinion and go from there. In order to answer the letter to J. Curry, Willis made a list of key statements from her letter in order to start formulating an answer. I really liked that approach, but certainly lack Willis skill on that. But perhaps someone is willing to read the letter above and fill in/ correct my pick on it:
1. Introduction
1.1. Small error get lots of media attention
1.2. None of them undermine the warming conclusion
1.3. IPCC perform excellent in accurately reporting the state-of-the-science
1.4. IPCC should become more forthcoming in openly acknowledging errors
2. Climate Challenge
2.1. Many of the major components of the climate system are now well understood, though there are still sources of significant uncertainty (like the processes that produce the observed rapid ice-sheet melting and/or collapse in the polar regions)
2.2. The atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases from human sources have increased rapidly since the Industrial Revolution
2.3. Increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere reduce the heat going out of the climate system
2.4 Measurements of global average temperatures show an increase with the recent decade being the warmest, anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations have an 0.5 degree-C part in warming over this century, with 1-6 degree-C possible until 2100.
2.5. Multiple reasons to be concerned, large-scale abrupt climate change, changing the face of the planet, 2degrees C in warming is the maximum tolerable and feasible with emission reduction measures
3. IPCC and 4thAR
3.1. clear errors and errors of omission (f.e. Himalayan glaciers and correlations between crop yields and climate change) should be rectified promptly, some claims were not true
3.2. Key finding in AR4 unchanged: human beings are very likely changing the climate, with far-reaching impacts in the long run
3.3 IPCC quality control needs improvement, but widespread and deliberate manipulation of scientific data did not happen.
3.4. AR4 is based to the vast majority on peer-reviewed articles
3.5. Suggested way to improve the review: a new cross-chapter review process with experts of the impact area
4. Quality control for IPCC and US Review
4.1. IPCC does already have QC, and the process is well documented on a webpage and it is guaranteed that each comment is treated properly.
4.2 “gray literature” is thoughtfully verified and available for 3rd parties on request.
4.3. IPCC procedures are transparent and thorough, no single scholar or small group of scholars can manipulate the process to include or to exclude a specific line of research
4.4 Not addressed are the criteria and procedures by which the IPCC selects chairs and authors
5. What next?
5.1. A few errors cannot detract deliberations about how to respond to climate risk
5.2. For the AR5 IPCC should acknowledge errors rapidly probably online, with a clear distinction between errors and progressing knowledge.
5.3. IPCC reports provide a scientific foundation for climate policy making, thus quality and balance in the knowledge delivered essential
My pick on this:
While I do aggree with most of the sentences, there are some points a cannot aggree on! Starting with the treatment of S. McIntyre, who has documented very detailed, that his justified reviewing comments where overruled and ignored and the fact, that there is critical literature which does not make its way into the report, the letter misses one grave point in my oppinion:
The political agenda (pa) of the scientific authors making this report.
How other than with pa it can be explained that Panchauri withheld the correction of the glacier mistake until after the Kopenhagen meeting?
However, please help me to get a correct list with statments and probably on of the smarte people here can start to formulate a detailed answer.
I think this is a good starting point in order to formulate a stand to the postion expressed in this letter.
Have fun,
LoN

manfred
March 15, 2010 11:57 am

those who deliberately team up with schneider should no longer have a place in tax payer funding.

Bill Illis
March 15, 2010 12:00 pm

DirkH (10:11:31) :
Part of the NCAR website was down for awhile. Try again.
http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/Trenberth/trenberth.papers/Tracking%20Energyv5.pdf