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Here’s their formal response. I’m providing this from: http://www.openletterfromscientists.com for all to see here and to discuss. – Anthony
An Open Letter from Scientists in the United States on the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and Errors Contained in the Fourth Assessment Report: Climate Change 2007
[Note: More than 250 scientists have already signed this open letter and signatures are still being collected. On Friday, March 12, 2010, when the letter has been delivered to federal agencies, a list of signers will be posted. The vast majority of the signers are climate change scientists who work at leading U.S. universities and institutions. They include both IPCC and non-IPCC authors. Additional signers include professionals from related disciplines, including physical, biological and social scientists. If you are a scientist wishing to sign the letter, please see the note below. If you have any questions, please contact the letter’s authors, contact information is below.]
Dear Colleagues:
We have written an open letter about the IPCC process, media attention, errors, and suggestions for improvement, which we are circulating to both IPCC authors and other scientists in the US. We plan to send the letter to the US Congress, State Department, EPA, NOAA, the Office of Science and Technology Policy, the Council on Environmental Quality, and other relevant US agencies and organizations.
If you would like to be a co-signer of the letter, please send your name and institutional affiliation to Gary Yohe at gyohe@wesleyan.edu by close of business on Friday, March 12. A note on the letter will say: ‘Signatories’ affiliations are listed for identification only and should not be interpreted as representing official institutional positions.’
Because it won’t be possible to coordinate multiple versions, we do not plan to edit this letter further at this juncture. However, if you do have comments, please feel free to include them in your email response.
Please circulate the open letter to your colleagues if you would like. We apologize for any cross-listings in advance.
Best,
Gary Yohe
Steve Schneider
Cynthia Rosenzweig
Bill Easterling
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Many in the popular press and other media, as well as some in the halls of Congress, are seizing on a few errors that have been found in the Fourth Assessment Report (AR4) of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in an attempt to discredit the entire report. None of the handful of mis-statements (out of hundreds and hundreds of unchallenged statements) remotely undermines the conclusion that “warming of the climate system is unequivocal” and that most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the mid-twentieth century is very likely due to observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations. Despite its excellent performance for accurately reporting the state-of-the-science, we certainly acknowledge that the IPCC should become more forthcoming in openly acknowledging errors in a timely fashion, and continuing to improve its assessment procedures to further lower the already very low rate of error.
It is our intention in offering this open letter to bring the focus back to credible science, rather than invented hyperbole, so that it can bear on the policy debate in the United States and throughout the world. We first discuss some of the key messages from climate science and then elaborate on IPCC procedures, with particular attention to the quality-control mechanisms of the IPCC. Finally we offer some suggestions about what might be done next to improve IPCC practices and restore full trust in climate science.
The Climate Challenge
Our understanding of human contributions to climate change and the associated urgency for humans to respond has improved dramatically over the past two decades. Many of the major components of the climate system are now well understood, though there are still sources of significant uncertainty (like the processes that produce the observed rapid ice-sheet melting and/or collapse in the polar regions). It is now well established, for example, that atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases from human sources have increased rapidly since the Industrial Revolution. Increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere reduce the heat going out of the climate system, i.e., the radiation balance of the Earth – and so first principles of physics tell us to expect, with a very high likelihood, that higher temperatures should have been observed.
Indeed, measurements of global average temperatures show an increase of about 0.6 degrees C over the twentieth century and about 0.8 degrees C warming since mid-19th century. The pattern of increase has not been smooth or monotonic. There have been several 10- to 15-year periods of stable or declining temperatures over the past 150 years, but 14 of the warmest 15 years on record have been experienced between 1995 and 2009. Since 1970, observational evidence from all continents and most oceans shows that many natural systems are already being affected by these temperature increases.
Because the long-term warming trends are highly significant relative to our estimates of the magnitude of natural variability, the current decadal period of stable global mean temperature does nothing to alter a fundamental conclusion from the AR4: warming has unequivocally been observed and documented. Moreover, well-understood lags in the responsiveness of the climate system to disturbances like greenhouse gas increases mean that the current temperature plateau will very likely not persist much longer. Global climate model projections show that present-day greenhouse gas concentrations have already committed the planet to about 0.5 degree C in warming over this century.
Increasing emissions of carbon dioxide from the consumption of coal, oil and natural gas as well as deforestation have been the major drivers of this observed warming. While we cannot predict the details of our climate future with a high degree of certainty, the majority of studies from a large number of research groups in the US and elsewhere project that unabated emissions could produce between 1 and 6 degrees C more warming through the year 2100.
Other research has identified multiple reasons to be concerned about climate change; these apply to the United States as well as globally. They include (1) risks to unique and threatened systems (including human communities), (2) risks from extreme events (like coastal storms, floods, droughts, heat waves, and wildfires), (3) economic damages (driven by, for example, pest infestations or inequities in the capacity to adapt), (4) risks from large-scale abrupt climate change (e.g., ice-sheet collapse, ocean circulation slowing, sharply increased methane emissions from permafrost) or abrupt impacts of more predictable climate change (generated by thresholds in the coping capacities of natural and human systems to climate variability), and (5) risks to national security (driven largely by extreme events across the world interacting with already-stressed situations).
These sources of risk and the potential for triggering temperature-driven impacts at lower thresholds, as well as the explicit recognition in the AR4 that risk is the product of likelihood and consequence, led the nations of the world to take note of the Copenhagen Accord last December. The Accord highlights 2 degrees C in warming as a target that might reduce the chance of “dangerous anthropogenic interference with the climate system” to more manageable levels. Research has shown that increasing the likelihood of achieving this goal over the next century is economically and technically feasible with emission reduction measures and changes in consumption patterns; but it will not be easy without major national and international actions to deviate substantially from the status quo.
The IPCC and the Fourth Assessment Report
The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) and the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) established the IPCC in 1988 to provide policy makers regularly with balanced assessments of the state of knowledge on climate change. In so doing, they created an open intergovernmental organization in which scientists, policy analysts, engineers, and resource managers from all over the world were asked to collaborate. At present, more than 150 countries including the United States participate in the IPCC. IPCC publishes an assessment report approximately every six years. The most recent Fourth Assessment, approved by member countries and released in 2007, contained three volumes: The Physical Science Basis (Working Group I); Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability (Working Group II) and Mitigation of Climate Change (Working Group III) and a Synthesis Report. More than 44 writing teams and 450 lead authors contributed to the Fourth Assessment – authors who have been selected on the basis of their expertise in consultation with all member countries and who were assisted by another 800 scientists and analysts who served as contributing authors on specific topics. Authors donated their time gratis, and the entire process was supported by four Technical Support Units (TSUs) that employ 5 to 10 people each.
Errors in the Fourth Assessment Report
It was hard not to notice the extraordinary commotion that erupted around errors that were eventually found in the AR4. The wrong year for the projected disappearance of the Himalayan glaciers and the wrong percentage of ‘land below sea level’ in the Netherlands are examples of errors that need to be acknowledged frankly and rectified promptly. In a few other cases, like the discussion of the correlations between crop yields, climate change, and climate variability in North Africa, caveats that were carefully crafted within the chapters were not included when language was shortened for the Synthesis Report. While striving to simplify technical details and summarize major points, some important qualifications were left behind. These errors of omission in the summary process should also be recognized and corrected. Other claims, like the one reported at the end of February suggesting that the AR4 did not mention the millions of more people who will see increases in water availability that were reported in the cited literature along with the millions of more people who will be at risk of water shortage, are simply not true. In any case, it is essential to emphasize that none of these interventions alter the key finding from the AR4 that human beings are very likely changing the climate, with far-reaching impacts in the long run.
The heated debates that have emerged around these instances have even led some to question the quality and integrity of the IPCC. Recent events have made it clear that the quality control procedures of the IPCC are not watertight, but claims of widespread and deliberate manipulation of scientific data and fundamental conclusions in the AR4 are not supported by the facts. We also strongly contest the impression that the main conclusions of the report are based on dubious sources. The reference list of the AR4 contains about 18,000 citations, the vast majority of which were published in peer-reviewed scientific journals. The IPCC also has transparent procedures for using published but not peer-reviewed sources in their reports. These procedures were not properly followed in the isolated Himalaya case, but that statement was never elevated into the Summary for Policymakers of either Working Group II or the Synthesis Report – documents that were approved unanimously and word for word by all member nations.
Nonetheless, failsafe compliance with these procedures requires extra attention in the writing of the next round of assessments. We propose implementing a topic-based cross-chapter review process by which experts in an impact area of climate change, such as changes in water resources, scrutinize the assessment of related vulnerability, risk analyses, and adaptation strategies that work downstream from such changes. Here we mean, to continue the example, assessments of possible increases in flooding damage in river basins and the potential for wetlands to provide buffers in the sectoral and regional chapters. This would be most productively implemented just before the first-order draft, so that chapter authors can be alerted to potential problems before the major review step.
Quality Control within the IPCC and US Review
The impression that the IPCC does not have a proper quality-control procedure is deeply mistaken. The procedure for compiling reports and assuring its quality control is governed by well-documented principles that are reviewed regularly and amended as appropriate. Even now, every step in the preparation of every chapter can be traced on a website: First Order Drafts (with comments by many scientists as well as author responses to those comments), Second Order Drafts in which those comments are incorporated (and comments by experts and country representatives on revised versions as well as another round of author responses), and so on, up through the final, plenary-approved versions.
To be clear, 2,500 reviewers together provided about 90,000 comments on the 44 chapters for the AR4. Each comment is documented on a website that also describes how and why the comment was or was not incorporated in the next revision. Review editors for each chapter worked with the authors to guarantee that each comment was treated properly and honestly in the revision; in fact, no chapter can ever move forward for publication without the approval of its set of two or three review editors.
The US Government opened its reviews of the draft IPCC report to any US expert who wanted to review it. In order to protect against having this preliminary pre-reviewed draft leaked before its ultimate approval by the IPCC Plenary, the US Government asked all potential reviewers to agree not to disclose the contents of the draft. For each report, the US Government assembled its own independent panel of government experts to vet the comments before submission to the IPCC. Anything with scientific merit was forwarded. There were multiple rounds for each of the Working Group reports and the Synthesis Report, and opportunities for US experts to review the drafts were posted as Federal Register notices.
IPCC principles also govern how authors treat published but non-peer reviewed sources. These procedures acknowledge that peer-reviewed scientific journals contain little information about on-the-ground implementation of adaptation or mitigation – matters such as the emission reduction potential in a given industrial sector or country, for example, or catalogues of the specific vulnerabilities and adaptation strategies of sectors and regions with regard to climate change. This information is frequently only available in reports from research institutes, reports of workshops and conferences, or in publications from industries or other non-governmental organizations. This is the so-called gray literature. The IPCC procedure prescribes that authors are obliged to assess critically any gray source that they wish to include. The quality and validity of a finding from a non-peer reviewed source needs to be verified before its finding may be included in a chapter text. Each source needs to be completely traceable; and in cases where gray sources are used, a copy must be deposited at the IPCC Secretariat to guarantee that it is available upon request for third parties.
We conclude that the IPCC procedures are transparent and thorough, even though they are not infallible. Nonetheless, we are confident that no single scholar or small group of scholars can manipulate the process to include or to exclude a specific line of research; authors of that research can (and are fully encouraged to) participate in the review process. Moreover, the work of every scientist, regardless of whether it supports or rejects the premise of human-induced climate change, is subject to inclusion in the reports. The work is included or rejected for consideration based on its scientific merit.
It is important to note that we are not addressing here the criteria and procedures by which the IPCC selects chairs and authors. These are handled exclusively by the IPCC and its members according to terms of reference that were initially defined in the authorizing language of 1988. That is to say, governments or their appointees frame and implement these policies; and they create, approve and staff Technical Support Units for each working group. We do not make suggestions on these topics since they lie beyond our purview.
What comes next?
We expect that the robust findings of the AR4 will be continue to be supported by new information gleaned from literature published since 2006 — i.e., that the climate change issue is serious and real. Given these findings, we believe that the climate change issue deserves the urgent and non-partisan consideration of the country’s legislative and administrative leaders. We feel strongly that exaggerated focus on a few errors from 2007 cannot be allowed to detract from open and honest deliberations about how to respond to climate risk by reducing emissions and promoting adaptation at home and abroad.
As the process of producing the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report (AR5) begins, the IPCC should become more responsive in acknowledging errors rapidly and openly as they become known. To this end, we urge the IPCC to put an erratum on its website that rectifies all errors that have been discovered in the text after publication. In doing so, a clear distinction needs to be made between errors and progressing knowledge. IPCC assessments are detailed snapshots of the state of scientific knowledge at a given time, while knowledge evolves continuously through ongoing research and experience; it is the errors in the assessments that need immediate attention. In contrast, progressing knowledge is published in new scientific journal articles and reports; this information should be used as a basis for the AR5, but it cannot be listed as errata for the AR4 because it was not available when that assessment was conducted. The website should, as well, respond rapidly and openly when reports of errors in past assessments are themselves in error. We cannot let misperceptions fester anymore than errors go uncorrected.
Climate research and the IPCC reports on the state of knowledge provide a scientific foundation for climate policy making, whose agenda is defined by the governments of the IPCC and not the lead authors per se. The quality of and the balance in the knowledge delivered by any assessment is certainly essential, as is clear and explicit communication of associated uncertainties. Given the recent political and media commotion surrounding a few clear errors, it is now equally essential that we find ways to restore full trust in the integrity of the overwhelming majority of the climate change research and policy communities. To that end, we are pleased that an independent critical evaluation of IPCC procedures will be conducted; we hope that the process will solicit participation by the National Academies of the member nations.
The significance of IPCC errors has been greatly exaggerated by many sensationalist accounts, but that is no reason to avoid implementing procedures to make the assessment process even better. The public has a right to know the risks of climate change as scientists currently understand them. We are dedicated to working with our colleagues and government in furthering that task.
March 10, 2010
Signed:
Gary W. Yohe Wesleyan University and Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies
gyohe@wesleyan.edu
Stephen H. Schneider Stanford University
shs@stanford.edu
Cynthia Rosenzweig NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies and Columbia University
crosenzweig@giss.nasa.gov
William E. Easterling Pennsylvania State University
billeasterling@psu.edu

Sorry for keyboard errors.
They could only get 250 sigs for this “consensus” letter, and that’s including biologists and social scientists?
LOL, I can get more (and probably more intruiging) signatures with my daughter’s girl scout cookie drive every year.
Last month, 55 scientists in the Netherlands issued a similar (albeit briefer) letter. At that time I wrote a blog post that argued, in essence, that the opinions held by scientists regarding the quality of the IPCC report are pretty much irrelevant.
While a meal is being prepared in a restaurant kitchen, the opinions of the chef matter a great deal. But once the meal is delivered to a table, the chef’s opinion becomes irrelevant. It is the customer – the public – who decides whether the meal is acceptable, the price is reasonable, and the experience worth repeating.
Sometimes scientists’ opinions are irrelevant
Juraj V. (03:22:46) : You wrote as an example, “…falsely altered SST record…”
I have to ask: beyond the HADSST2 upward shift in 1998 caused by the Hadley Centre’s splicing of two incompatible SST data sources…
http://bobtisdale.blogspot.com/2008/12/step-change-in-hadsst-data-after-199798.html
…what other irregularities are you discussing?
For being “smart guys”, they sure are dense. They are missing the point completely. It’s not about “The Science”. It’s about the use to which that science is being put. The fact that much of it is in error, or deliberately misrepresented, speaks to the irritation that people have and our anger at being manipulated for political ends. Climategate and subsequent fallout, merely brought it to our attention, which is a good thing. We won’t be fooled again.
Typical. In industry the same claptrap would be stating that you have well documented QA/QC and testing procedures for your product. Then we find out that they’re never implemented or the results are just ignored.
Stating that all the review comments were treated honestly, given what we have heard from skeptical commenters, is insulting. Those comments were treated in the same way as “we’ll give him a fair trial before we hang him”.
They’ve reverted to the denial stage. These must be the holdouts. Many of the others have gone into the bargaining stage where they say that humans must still try and keep our environment clean. Others have already gone through depression and acceptance that the data has been forged. But to still be at the denial stage makes them look downright silly.
I don’t know, but it do sound like a feeble attempt at sweeping the seriousness under the rug.
No one can exaggerate a scientific error but those that made the error in the first place. Were it an error in the basic science of maggots mating rituals, not a whole lot would care if they even had noticed it, but now these errors lead to consequences for everyone on this planet, since the wish is to affect everyone even a negative effect will affect the same amount.
It doesn’t matter how many reviewers you have be it 2500 or 25000, since everything has to do with what the deciding body includes and excludes. The deciding body, which seem to be a rather small band of like minded, decided to include errors against the critique from reviewers. So the amount of reviewers didn’t shield from including errors.
If only the errors had been the wrong font size, or a misspelt word. But the reports are riddled with errors, and people are even finding errors in WG1 where all the fundamental science, math, and logic is supposed to be rock solid, but no not even the rules of basic science and logic could they adhere to.
Out of context seemingly not a big deal. But the actual goddamn context is to influence policy around the globe, and that will affect everyone.
You have to be an irrational la la land fairy or, worse, completely mental to not take the errors very seriously.
Don (05:51:00) :
“What exactly is a “climate change scientist?””
Answer: Scientists who have drunk deeply from the wells of Post Normal Science, given up being climate scientists and become climate change advocates.
So, Mike Hulme at UEA, for example, is not Professor of Climate Science, but Professor of Climate Change. That’s why UEA advertise for lecturers in climate change, not climate science, as last October just before Climategate:
“Situations Vacant: Three Lecturers in Climate Change at Tyndall UEA:
These new academic staff appointments at UEA have been created as a result of substantial new investments in the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research. The posts offer excellent opportunities for continuing, or developing, internationally outstanding research careers.”
Climate scientists seldom had these opportunities, but if you will only serve the government agenda, you will be well rewarded. Meanwhile, physics and chemistry departments around UK are shrinking and closing. Follow the money.
As Mike Hulme, Professor of Climate CHANGE says,
“…dangerous climate change will not emerge from a normal scientific process of truth-seeking…scientists – and politicians – must trade truth for influence.”
“In the end, politics will always trump science…we need better politics, not better science.”
Three thoughts: First; I notice that this letter appears to be addresssed solely to governmental entities, not the media. Since the US media has ignored climategate this letter would have to bring attention to it would it not? Second; any group that has the audacity to actually write “…improve its assessment to further lower the already very low rate of error” deserves to be very closely scrutinized. Finally; I find it hard to believe that a group that virtually invented the word ‘hyperbole’ could actually write that it’s their intention “…to bring the focus back to credible science, rather than invented hyperbole.”
One of the most overused tactic of the AGW convinced, is a blatant appeal to authority. The IPCC has been that authority for most.
So it is vitally important to the AGW movement, that the IPCC remain as a authoritative body. Can enough makeup be applied to this corpse, to convince people, that it retains vigor? GK
Show us the data
Show us how you measured the data
Show us the code
Reply
1) Skepticism is neither a mood nor is it dangerous. It is, in fact, the hallmark of, and crucial to, good science, with objections to it being the absolute antithesis.
2) The IPCC’ mistakes have been neither few nor are they minor, and it has proved itself time and again, to the most casual observer not in any camp, to be not only a thoroughly co-opted cabal, but alarmist as well. Not the thousands of contributors, but those at the top who rewrite, in summary form, their works, and then claim it as a peer reviewed “consensus” view.
3) IPCC scientists (et al — they are not all scientists, for the most part they are bureaucrats and politicians) have been too busy on the public offence, having basked for so long in the presumptive pretence as being the gold standard of climate change infallibility, such that it’s no wonder that they are now surprised to find themselves having to actually mount a public defence of their integrity.
You write as if they have not been willing or able to hit the airwaves or make their case in newspapers, while failing to acknowledge that they have had nothing but thousands upon thousands of willing publicists and propagandists to do this for them.
4) The scientists are not faced by powerful lobbies working to distort and discredit the science behind climate change. Rather they are faced with an even more powerful public, made up of rightly sceptical individuals, who are demanding that the science behind the climate change finally be transparent, fully justified and answerable to dissenting claims (without any offhand dismissals that pretend to do just that), and absolutely and completely void of politics and bias, which it is currently not.
People are not, by and large, stupid. They are discerning, and not so easily swayed by dismissive condescension. They do not have to be scientists to perceive when they are being sold something.
Now scientists are faced by powerful lobbies who are working to distort and discredit the science behind climate change. Quite so. But how about the carbon trading lobby, the nuclear power lobby, the wind-farm lobby, the bio-fuel lobby, and the pressure from governments to find any excuse to levy green taxes?
The idea that the IPCC could possibly be independently minded and unbiased after what it has unleashed is clearly nonsense when there are literally trillions of dollars at stake predicated on man-made climate change being a fact.
The IPCC was founded in 1988 by the World Meteorological Organisation and the UN Environment Programme with a mandate to produce accurate, balanced assessments about human-induced climate change. In other words IPCC’s mandate was to prove man-made global warming, not weigh man-made versus natural global warming.
Explain to us. Just how balanced can that be? This is a jury given a verdict and asked to present the evidence to back it up. And where have we come across that socialist methodology before? Oh, yes. The USSR, and look what happened to them.
renminbi (06:02:22) :
Sorry for keyboard errors.
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Well, at least you published a retraction before we caught you red-handed!!
Well, at least the EPA will have a big list of names to
subpoena for support, when their endangerment
finding is challenged in court.
A fitting epitaph for the IPCC:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
“My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away
They completely ignored the issue of anti-science activists like greenpeace and WWF being IPCC contributors. If the climate science community cannot recognize Erhlich is insane, they are part of his doomsday cult.
Correction
In my earlier post; Paragraph 7 should read: “Now scientists imagine themselves to be faced by powerful lobbies who are working to distort and discredit the science behind climate change. But how about the carbon trading lobby, the nuclear power lobby, the wind-farm lobby, the bio-fuel lobby, and the pressure from governments to find any excuse to levy green taxes?”
About 5 hours since I posted, so assume I’ve been moderated out. But let me try again:
If I was a USA citizen, I would be pleased to sign this document. In effect it reinforces the fact that none of the “scandals” have changed the fundamental message, and that all continued accumulation of observed evidence subsequent to the AR4 only reinforces the same message.
Flame away, I guess.
Bill Illis (05:54:47) :
“Then this in February 2010, he uses more up-to-date data and finds there is even more “Missing Energy” now or “can’t be accounted for” would be more accurate (no need to talk about water vapour and albedo feedbacks now since there is little net forcing for a positive feedback to build on).”
As of 2009, the missing energy flux that Trenberth’s calculations show up constitute an equivalent of a whopping 1.6 W/sq.m. Missing, of course, based on the assumption of greenhouse gas forcing (assumed but not proven). This is the same magnitude as the assumed GHG forcing itself. If the GHG forcing is, for the sake of argument, considered to be nonsense, the ‘missing energy flux’ disappears as well.
This is not ‘proof’ that greenhouse forcing is poppycock, but it should certainly concentrate the mind. Perhaps climatologists, taking a leaf from the astrophysics books (I jest), will have to come up with the concept of ‘dark energy’ to explain this. They will doubtless come up with something even more complicated, rather than use Occam’s razor and revisit their preconceptions and presuppositions. After all, it keeps the money rolling in: as Trenberth finishes his articles:
“A climate information system that firstly determines what is taking place and then establishes why is better able to provide a sound basis for predictions and which can answer important questions such as ‘Has global warming really slowed or not?’”
“How can we understand whether the strong cold outbreaks of December 2009 are simply a natural weather phenomenon, as they seem to be, or are part of some mysterious change..?”
Answer: Keep sending us the money, and we’ll keep telling you how important we are to your salvation and ultimate human redemption.
A completely discredited report (IPCC Fourth Assessment Report). A completely discredited research/policy group (IPCC). A completely discredited uber-orgnization (UN). There is no science, no scientific method, or good-faith public service. All must be fired and blackballed from ever entering the professions they once claimed to represent. The UN, which answers to no representative group of voters, must be unfunded. No more elites appointing elites appointing elites to give us the shaft.
George Grisancich (04:35:10) noticed: “What’s particularly interesting is the list of signatories. No Erhlick, no Hansen, no Mann, no Jones. I wonder why they haven’t signed it?
Even though these non-signatories must be the first to get their just deserts, nevertheless, because of this letter, the 250 should taste what lying and fraudulent practices deserve. You may be underlings; you may be in completely different professions; but if you dare to diminish the scientific method in any way — other than an honest mistake — you are on your way out. No more joking on your break time around the grant-water cooler. It has been repossessed.
Fred from Canuckistan (04:57:09) : “’The vast majority of the signers are climate change scientists who work at leading U.S. universities and institutions”. Simplified English translation: ‘we are all on the government funded AGW hysteria Gravy Train, in First Class, and we want to keep being entitled to our entitlements’”
It is time for the marxists (read: social control totalitarianism by THE elite) to return to naval gazing. The public spigot is turning off.
On to the names. Let us begin with The Two-Hundred-Fifty.
How many in the biological and social sciences?
Vigilantfish (5:38:59) begins with the name Robert S. Coleman, THE supposed “great authority on climate science”, but when he looked up THIS Robert S. Coleman, he found a DNA researcher. Was using his name a subterfuge? Is there a DNA of climate science? Maybe it is the marxist DNA of the 250 that is important.
A few to begin with: Gary W. Yohe, Stephen H. Schneider, Cynthia Rosenweig (oh, boy, a leftist Columbia U-NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies – drop-the thermometers-GISS? employee), and William E. Easterling. Anthony, I imagine your readers know them and their research. Are any of them credible climate scientists?
Must stop for now but two items re Gary Yohe. On his Wesleyan-dot-edu bio site, his research was behind a password – not for public perusal – but His Bigwigness on the IPCC and global-warming/the-sky-is-falling panels and testimony before the Senate were right up there in front., On the “See Grant Marine Career” site (yes, it says “See Grant”), he writes: “The director” part of my job consists of overseeing the University’s pursuit of external funding from public sources…and coordinating efforts for corporate and foundation support with my counterpart the development office.” His salary is listed as between $125,000 and $150,000 (~2009). Can’t you imagine how he has parlayed that into at least 100’s of thousands, if not millions. And how many get their 100’s of thousands from him. And, oh, the university salivates – it gets the vast majority of $s from all grants for “general operating expenses”. I am continuing to research his research. Is he credible?
“Academics fight back on climate issues”
Nothing wrong with that, as long as they leave politics and the scaremongering out. Science needs the data, data needs to be analysed without favour or prejudice, and many academics are perfectly capable of doing that. Adversarial system is good for legal profession to get to the truth, so it can’t do any harm to the climate science.
fredb (07:48:53) :
About 5 hours since I posted, so assume I’ve been moderated out. But let me try again:
If I was a USA citizen, I would be pleased to sign this document. In effect it reinforces the fact that none of the “scandals” have changed the fundamental message, and that all continued accumulation of observed evidence subsequent to the AR4 only reinforces the same message.
Flame away, I guess.
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*sigh* Accumulated evidence? Temperature data from stations next to parking lots, jetways, factories etc.? Growing Arctic and Antarctic ice mass? Ongoing solar minimum?
No flames needed, we have enough warming! Just honest discussion of facts. Thus far, the observations do not seem to support the contentions of AGW proponents.
Cry me a river:
“Climate-change scientists feel ‘muzzled’ by Ottawa: documents”
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2682162
Apparently they feel the MSM isn’t fawning over them as they used to. 😉
Paul
Bottom line (open letter: to the government): we want you to strong-arm the people to do what we want them to do because we are scientists.
When a doctor tells you he’s going to cut your legs off, the ‘trust me, I’m a doctor’ statement doesn’t validate the action.
The scientists are using an extreme scientific threat. I can’t recall anywhere in history that such extremism is or has been effective – essentially, do this or millions will die. Of course, climate scientist argue this is a ‘global’ issue, and is bigger than anything we have encountered before.
Coupled with the fact that the AGW proponents keep on stating it’s warmer that it has ever been, yet the very people that are supposed to believe this are experiencing the exact opposite. It’s not surprising the scientist is becoming the poster child for the (global) village idiot.
Many of us who actually work for a living are doing our darnedest to provide for those who have less than us, while reducing our own environmental impact as well as saving ourselves a bit of coin; supporting industries which actually are providing real and practical solutions; and actually educating our fellow man, who, it turns out aren’t as stupid as these scientists and politicians think they are.
Honestly, I’m getting pretty fed up of the GW propaganda as many are; it’s at the point where people will rally against it on principle – we are fed up of keeping your ship afloat while you lecture us on the hole in the hull.