Here’s a chance to tell your congressperson not to waste more taxpayer money on repetitive services already handled by NCDC. This looks to be nothing more than a fast track press release service. Given how badly Tom Karl has handled PR in the past, such as the disastrous NCDC Climate Change Synthesis report with photoshopped images of floods that didn’t happen.
Image above taken directly from the CCSP report. Read more here
They had to hold the report to fix errors. I don’t expect this agency to be much better. – Anthony
From NOAA NEWS: Commerce Department Proposes Establishment of NOAA Climate Service
New office would target nation’s fast-accelerating climate information needs
NOAA launches www.climate.gov as portal for climate science and services
February 8, 2010
Individuals and decision-makers across widely diverse sectors – from agriculture to energy to transportation – increasingly are asking NOAA for information about climate change in order to make the best choices for their families, communities and businesses. To meet the rising tide of these requests, U.S. Commerce Secretary Gary Locke today announced the intent to create a NOAA Climate Service line office dedicated to bringing together the agency’s strong climate science and service delivery capabilities.
NOAA responds to millions of annual requests for climate data vital to planning and operations. In vulnerable areas, infrastructure can be designed with a better understanding of projected sea-level rise, flooding and/or changes in hurricane frequency and intensity.
High resolution (Credit: NOAA)
More and more, Americans are witnessing the impacts of climate change in their own backyards, including sea-level rise, longer growing seasons, changes in river flows, increases in heavy downpours, earlier snowmelt and extended ice-free seasons in our waters. People are searching for relevant and timely information about these changes to inform decision-making about virtually all aspects of their lives.
“By providing critical planning information that our businesses and our communities need, NOAA Climate Service will help tackle head-on the challenges of mitigating and adapting to climate change,” said Secretary Locke. “In the process, we’ll discover new technologies, build new businesses and create new jobs.”
“Working closely with federal, regional, academic and other state and local government and private sector partners, the new NOAA Climate Service will build on our success transforming science into useable climate services,” said Jane Lubchenco, Ph.D., under secretary of commerce for oceans and atmosphere and NOAA administrator. “NOAA is committed to scientific integrity and transparency; we seek to advance science and strengthen product development and delivery through user engagement.”
Leaders from numerous public and private sector entities support the creation of NOAA Climate Service:
NOAA researchers collect climate data throughout the world. This data yields important clues about long-term global changes, improving predictions of climate variations in the shorter term, such as during cold spells and periods of drought, and over centuries.
High resolution (Credit: NOAA)
“Addressing climate change is one of our most pressing environmental challenges. Making climate science more easily accessible to all Americans will help us gain the consensus we need to move forward,” said Jim Rogers, CEO of Duke Energy. “The new NOAA Climate Service is a welcome addition. It will help bring people together so we can also bring about an economic recovery by more rapidly modernizing our nation’s energy infrastructure.”
“NOAA has consistently led the world in climate research and observation,” said Carol Browner, assistant to the president for energy and climate change. “Businesses, communities and governments will rely even more on its expertise and the critical information it provides to make informed decisions based on the best science available. Through NOAA’s improved climate services we will be better able to confront climate change, and the many challenges it presents for our environment, security, and economy.”
“The establishment of NOAA Climate Service will be an important step forward in helping the nation better understand and forecast the changing climate. The Navy’s Task Force Climate Change looks forward to working closely with NOAA Climate Service to ensure that both the nation and the Navy are best prepared for the future challenges posed by climate change,” said RADM Dave Titley, oceanographer of the Navy and director of the Navy’s Task Force Climate Change.
“NOAA’s reorganization to consolidate its formidable capabilities relating to climate science and services in a single office is an important step forward in the larger effort of harnessing relevant capabilities across all the executive branch agencies to help citizens and businesses plan for and cope with climate change,” said Shere Abbott, associate director for environment and energy at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy.
To see what other leaders from government, business, science and environment are saying about NOAA Climate Service, and to get additional information, visit http://www.noaa.gov/climate.
Unifying NOAA’s climate capabilities under a single climate office will integrate the agency’s climate science and services and make them more accessible to NOAA partners and other users. Planning has been, and continues to be, shaped by input from NOAA employees and stakeholders across the country, with close consideration given to the recommendations of the NOAA Science Advisory Board, National Academies and National Academy of Public Administration.
NOAA Climate Service will encompass a core set of longstanding NOAA capabilities with proven success. The climate research, observations, modeling, predictions and assessments generated by NOAA’s top scientists – including Nobel Peace Prize award-winners – will continue to provide the scientific foundation for extensive on-the-ground climate services that respond to millions of requests annually for data and other critical information.
Thomas R. Karl, director of NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center, will serve as transitional director of NOAA Climate Service. New positions for six NOAA Regional Climate Services Directors will be announced soon and will provide regional leadership for integrating user engagement and on-the-ground service delivery within the Climate Service.
NOAA Launches Landmark Climate.gov Portal
NOAA is also unveiling today a new Web site – http://www.climate.gov – that serves as a single point-of-entry for NOAA’s extensive climate information, data, products and services. Known as the NOAA Climate Portal, the site addresses the needs of five broadly-defined user groups: decision makers and policy leaders, scientists and applications-oriented data users, educators, business users and the public.
Highlights of the portal include an interactive “climate dashboard” that shows a range of constantly updating climate datasets (e.g., temperature, carbon dioxide concentration and sea level) over adjustable time scales; the new climate science magazine ClimateWatch, featuring videos and articles of scientists discussing recent climate research and findings; and an array of data products and educational resources.
NOAA understands and predicts changes in the Earth’s environment, from the depths of the ocean to the surface of the sun, and conserves and manages our coastal and marine resources.
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The “dramatic decline” water level photos from Lake Powell were taken in 2002 and 2003 at the height of a normal western drought cycle.
http://www.climatewatch.noaa.gov/2010/images/dramatic-decline-in-lake-powell-water-levels
There has been a “dramatic” increase in the water level since then. I walked a few miles along the rim of the lake, near Glen Canyon Dam, just two weeks ago.
This portrayal of a current global warming crisis is very dishonest and propagandistic. Surely NOAA knows why we have reservoirs all over the west.
“The interviewer Andrew Neil” did very well…and we need t o see much much more of the same.
Gary Lock started the State of Washington down this road while serving as Governor. His successor is so committed to the AGW cause that she is diverting money from pollution prevention and cleanup programs to keep up funding for AGW PR programs. Now she is proposing tripling environmental taxes to keep those now underfunded environmental programs running.
Hmmm … “Lunar Designational Tides” not exactly terminology in common use; I came up with EXACTLY one (1) hit using Google – care to guess where that was?
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‘The NOAA announcement brought quick praise from Sierra Club President Carl Pope: “As polluters and their allies continue to try and muddy the waters around climate science, the Climate Service will provide easy, direct access to the valuable scientific research undertaken by government scientists and others.”’
You mean like at CRU? We definitely do NOT need another climate agency in the Federal Government to muddy the waters and waste the taxpayer’s money on AGW propaganda over good science.
Engineering snafu on a par with … wait for it … LED-based Traffic Lights in the same climate!
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Perfect. It will say exactly what it is politically designed to say, and everybody will know it’s nothing but a cheap paint job.
What’s the point?
106 million watched the Super Bowl yesterday and caught ‘The’ commercial.
Who’s going to be fooled by this:
Psst…. hey buddy… want to buy a bottle of Green Snake Oil Paragoric?
I guess the NOAA didn’t see this email:
http://assassinationscience.com/climategate/1/FOIA/mail/1120593115.txt
John Christy,
The scientific community would come down on me in no uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998. OK it has but it is only 7 years of data and it isn’t statistically significant.
– Phil Jones
What a wonderful idea … and the perfect candidate to head this new agency … Kevin Trudeau.
_Jim (19:19:40) :
Richard Holle (16:16:50) :
Looked at it earlier, why does the (incoming sunlight) solar output data stop in 2000?
Using patterns in The Natural variability of the weather, caused by Lunar Designational Tides,
Hmmm … “Lunar Designational Tides” not exactly terminology in common use; I came up with EXACTLY one (1) hit using Google – care to guess where that was?
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Darn spell check; was to be “Lunar Declinational Tides,” in the oceans they are almost nonexistent, due to the high density of water, and being bounded by land. In the atmosphere, however they are unbounded, and there for produce the turbulent flow expected in an unbounded “ocean ” of air, as well as the really weak height anomaly shifts, seen around the higher mountain chains.
Main stream Meteorologists found no declinational tidal effects, in the oceans and ASSUMED, that there would be even less chance of finding them in the Atmosphere, so they did not look.
The atmospheric tides, driven by the Lunar Declinational movements of the North/South movement of the Moon, are the main drivers of the medial flows surges in the atmosphere. These pulses of equatorial air move off the ITZ following the Moon’s movement, maintain the patterns in the Rossby waves, and resultant patterns in the Jet streams.
I have found a repeating pattern in the global atmospheric circulation that repeats naturally, with an approximately 87% correlation, well enough that three cycles of it added together result in the forecast you can see on the web site mentioned (click my name).
The individual daily weather data from 6,992 days ago, 13,550 days ago and 20,108 days ago when averaged together, produce the forecast maps presented for the next 4 years. The data was tabulated, in August of 2007 and generated into the maps September – December 2007, that have been posted unchanged since onto the site .
Just trying new options, as models don’t work farther than 10 to 15 days out, and farmers and others, need better long lead forecasting than that.
Larry, in the Sierra Club announcement ““As polluters and their allies continue to try and muddy the waters around climate science … ”
is the Sierra Club referring to such “pollution” as the IPCC Assessment Reports?
There’s a “Tell Us What You Think” button at the bottom of the new Climate Service web page. Here’s what I wrote … I encourage everyone to tell them exactly what you think about this nonsense …
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This new Agency will neither change the sign of the negative slope of global temperatures over time nor the sign of the negative slope of the number of US citizens who believe in AGW over time
Richard Holle, but you have the patterns over SE Minnesota wrong, and have forecast between two and four times as much snow as we are getting.
Once you create a federal department, it is very hard to get rid of it. That it parallels existing departments doesn’t seem to matter.
Steve Schaper (21:38:01) :
Richard Holle, but you have the patterns over SE Minnesota wrong, and have forecast between two and four times as much snow as we are getting.
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My reply: The data from the past three cycles, all came from periods of higher solar activity, and would fall into the same type of pattern, if the current extended solar minimum had not of occurred.
The current prevailing conditions of colder, dryer northern US is in all probably, a result of the more southern extension of the jet streams, that itself may be caused by the lower level of solar activity.
That I have found a natural analog that shows ANY promise at all was unexpected when I started looking.
That it can predict the timing of the outbreaks in severe weather, months and years in advance, with any recognizable patterns, gives me reason to further explore the interactions causing, this preliminary study to do better than the models perform out past 10-15 days.
Richard Holle,
Have you come across Ken Rings site, Predict Weather in NZ ? He uses similar methods to yours and locks in forecasts 4 years ahead, and I have found over the past three years that his forecasts whilst not spot on, he says give a few days leeway, give rain periods in a month with much better accuracy than BoM in Australia.
He forecasts for NZ, UK, Ireland and Australia
I keep rainfall records and over the years have noticed bands across the pages that translate to lunar periods, and an ~18 year repeat.
http://www.climatewatch.noaa.gov/2010/images/dramatic-decline-in-lake-powell-water-levels
Dave N (17:30:47) : Thanks.
The comments come from 1997, The picture of record low levels is 2003
The article with picture was posted Feb 8 (yesterday)
Oh, I see, this was the reason you are going bankrupt:
Individuals and decision-makers across widely diverse sectors – from agriculture to energy to transportation – increasingly are asking NOAA for information about climate change in order to make the best choices for their families, communities and businesses
Seriously, don’t think a private company would take into consideration any NOAA forecasts. They pay private companies to do that. It’s about risking real money not to please somebody’s ideology.
Is it true that this new NOAA will operate in six or seven new territorial regions instead of the known states. Is somebody thinking to change your political structure?
Julian Braggins (02:33:51) :
Richard Holle,
Have you come across Ken Rings site, Predict Weather in NZ ? He uses similar methods to yours and locks in forecasts 4 years ahead, and I have found over the past three years that his forecasts whilst not spot on, he says give a few days leeway, give rain periods in a month with much better accuracy than BoM in Australia.
He forecasts for NZ, UK, Ireland and Australia
I keep rainfall records and over the years have noticed bands across the pages that translate to lunar periods, and an ~18 year repeat.
My reply; I have been in contact with Ken Ring since 2002, and I am even mentioned on his site and in one of his books. He uses a slightly different set of periodicities than I am looking at, but the method he uses to extract his forecast is an active process that can consider more than I do.
What I have done is pull out a repeating pattern of 6558 days(`18 years) and passively combine three repeats, of the cycle together with out any active filtering, nor applying any algorithms, adjustments, or exclusions of any data, so I get a very fuzzy picture that could be much improved if a good programmer could be utilized to make a v2.0 product of what I have been doing.
This just in from that AGW fighter Senator Inhofe’s EPW Minority Blog (http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs):
EPW HEARINGS POSTPONED DUE TO WEATHER
February 9, 2010
Posted Matt Dempsey matt_dempsey@epw.senate.gov
UPDATE: The following Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works hearings have been postponed due to inclement weather this week:
– The Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, Subcommittee on Water and Wildlife, will hold a hearing entitled, “Collaborative Solutions to Wildlife and Habitat Management.”
– The Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works will hold a hearing entitled, “Global Warming Impacts, Including Public Health, in the United States.”
Once the hearings are rescheduled, information will be posted at http://www.epw.senate.gov
“HONK IF YOU [HEART] GLOBAL WARMING”
Here’s another good one from Sen. Inhofe (http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs):
Inhofe Family Pokes Fun at Al Gore, Global Warming During DC Blizzard of 2010
February 9, 2010
Posted by Matt Dempsey matt_dempsey@epw.senate.gov
Heard on the Hill: Global Warming Snow Job
By Emily Heil and Elizabeth Brotherton
Roll Call Staff
Feb. 9, 2010
While most Washingtonians took cover during the Blizzard of 2010 (or Snowpocalypse, or Snowmaggedon – whatever you want to call it) Sen. James Inhofe’s family braved the storm to poke fun at former Vice President Al Gore.
The Oklahoma Republican’s daughter, Molly Rapert; her husband, Jimmy; and their four children built an igloo – roomy enough to fit several people inside – at Third Street and Independence Avenue Southeast.
They officially dedicated the humble abode in honor of global-warming crusader Gore, even posting a cardboard sign on the igloo’s roof reading “AL GORE’S NEW HOME” on one side and “HONK IF YOU [HEART] GLOBAL WARMING” on the other.
Inhofe, the ranking member of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, is famously one of Congress’ most vocal critics of global warming. And he told HOH that he found his family’s ironic tribute to Gore – which came during one of Washington’s snowiest winters on record – “really humorous.”
Inhofe was so proud of the construction effort, in fact, that he posted several pictures to his official Facebook page. Inhofe noted he wasn’t the only person who liked the igloo – several people honked to show support.
It took five hours Saturday and three hours Sunday to build the igloo. “The funny thing was seeing how many people would stop to pose in front of it,” Molly Rapert said.
And while this week’s expected snowy weather will ensure the igloo won’t melt, Inhofe did admit that he fears the structure might meet a premature demise by global-warming believers.
“I know that somebody is going to end up tearing it down,” Inhofe said. “Because there are a lot of people who can’t take a joke.”
Visit Senator Inhofe’s Facebook Page For More Pictures
You can build an igloo with an Eskimold (reviewed in Cool Tools favorably), here: http://www.eskimold.com/
The issue should not be “Is AGW true?”
It should be “What are the odds of it being true?”
And — if true “What are the odds the outcome will be a very bad thing?”
We ask these two questions in one form or another every time we start up our car. Most times we put on a seatbelt. In 55 years of driving, I’ve never needed one. The odds are very much against it being necessary. But I still use it. So do you (well — many of you).
So the task we must all take on is to assess the probability of the AGW advocates substantially overestimating the environmental effects of an ever increasing CO2 level.
Those who deny the scientific claims, or denigrate them, or ignore them, or “study” them only on anti-AGW web sites are, implicitly, claiming that their personal assessmant of climate danger is effectively 0%. My personal assessment of this threat, made after a year of study, is that it is at least 67%. Even if it were 1%, I’d still be in favor of an insurance policy. The current “cap and trade” bill is such a policy — probably not the best policy. Right now, it appears to be the only one we might “buy.”