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FROM CNN’s Jack Cafferty:
As the debate continues about global warming, the month of December was the 14th coldest in 115 years in the United States… and some scientists insist the earth is entering a cooling trend.
- Wind chills brought temperatures in the Dakotas to 50 degrees below zero, while record cold in parts of Florida is damaging some of the orange crops, and South Carolina called an early end to shrimping season.
- Parts of Canada have seen actual temperatures of 30 below zero… And freezing temperatures and record snowfalls are pounding parts of Asia and Europe too.
- Britain has experienced the worst snowfalls in half a century.
- In India – it’s estimated at least 100 people have died due to the cold temperatures… with dozens more killed in Bangladesh.
- In China and South Korea, heavy snow and unusually cold weather have brought chaos to travelers – blocking roads and trains, canceling flights. After one recent blizzard in Beijing – officials had more than 300-thousand people clearing the streets.
Meanwhile some of the world’s top climate scientists suggest this winter is only the start of a worldwide trend toward cooler weather, which could last for 20 to 30 years. They base their predictions on changes in water temperatures in the oceans.
The scientists say much of the global warming in the last century was actually caused by these oceanic cycles when they were in a “warm mode”… as opposed to the current “cold mode.” They suggest there will be cooler summers ahead too.
It’s the kind of research that could undermine lots of what we’ve been told about the warming of the Earth being caused only by man-made greenhouse gas emissions.
Here’s my question to you: How has this winter affected your belief in global warming?
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IIRC, the UK is 5 hours ahead of ET (east coast of US). So when it’s 6 PM in NYC, it’s 11 pm in the UK. (And 3 PM n our west coast.)
As soon as it becomes apparent to everyone that it’s no longer possible to make a buck pushing AGW most of its followers will switch to their back-up plan: Anthropogenic Contentenial Drift.
Here is very balanced piece on Global Warming I think This writer hits some very good points…..John……. http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/01/07/the-truth-is-out-there-somewhere/
paullm (15:05:03) :
Recent historically low solar flux also greatly influences our climate and should also indicate decadal cooling.
Except that the solar flux has been no lower than at any of the other solar minima since we started measuring it back in 1947. See page 19 of http://www.leif.org/research/Historical%20Solar%20Cycle%20Context.pdf
My submission:
As a medical researcher, I’m trained to look at what study numbers are saying without prejudice. Being very concerned about global warming, I began to look at the science and available information as objectively as possible almost a decade ago. I was disappointed to realize that global warming predictions were based solely on rudimentary models and backed by very little collaborating observational data. What data it was backed by would be considered too coincidental and confounding to pass as acceptable proof of anything in medical research.
Overall, the quality of historical climate data is poor for many reasons and the instrumental measurement history far too short to be suitable for long range forecasting. For this reason, I became skeptical of the alarmist view. With the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s failure to predict the last decade’s cessation of warming, and with the past several winters of colder and wetter weather, I remain convinced that the global warming of the past three decades was attributable to mostly long term natural cycles. With those cycles now transitioning to a negative phase, I feel confident that the now emerging scientific opinion which has identified cause for two or three decades of global cooling will be accurate.
Hank W. Hancock
Las Vegas, Nevada
‘Climategate’ professor Michael Mann protected ‘to maximum extent’ by Penn State policy
It ultimately falls to one man to decide if we ever see headlines that shout: “Penn State Climate Prof Fudged Facts to Fetch Funding”, or perhaps “Nittany Lyin’: Penn State’s Mann on the Street.”
Henry “Hank” Foley, the new vice president for research and dean of the graduate school, will hold professor Michael Mann’s academic future in his hands if an internal inquiry, now under way, sparks an investigation that finds Mann broke university policy.
But results of Penn State’s internal Climategate probe may not come until Mann’s part of the globe really warms up, in May or June. In addition, you may never learn what really happened between Mann and other leading lights in the global warming movement. That’s because Penn State, like other universities, treats such inquiries as confidential personnel matters, protected by policy “to the maximum extent possible.”
More surprising, the initial probe involves a committee of just three, all of whom are Penn State employees with a clear interest in preserving the reputation of a university ranked ninth in the nation in receiving government research and development grants. It may raise some eyebrows to know that no outsiders will monitor the proceedings.
The stakes couldn’t be higher. The perception of integrity in the climate research community will likely determine whether trillions of dollars are pumped into less-developed nations in the form of virtual reparations to atone for 150 years of unequal occupation of the so-called “carbon space” by more prosperous nations.
Still, the public is asked to trust the findings of a secret probe conducted by the colleagues of the accused.” (more)
http://dailycaller.com/2010/01/12/climategate-professor-michael-mann-protected-to-maximum-extent-by-penn-state-policy/
One NH winter how severe it is shall not be considered to prove or disprove global warming. However one NH winter such as this one, taken in context of increasing mid-latitudes storms, colder SH winters in Peru, Argentina setting earlier as a continuing trend, then it takes a different meaning.
maz2, thanks for the article on Mann. With a bit of luck, a whistleblower will be among these funding agencies, someone sufficiently P.O. with the use of funds to leak the results of the investigation.
Hank Hancock (17:41:29) :
Good on ya mate!
Winter has had no effect on my opinion of AGW. It’s nice to see that God, natural variability, and the potential for snow hasn’t been overwhelmed by the power of the SUV. But is any sane person surprised?
CO2 warms the earth, but it’s probably a heck of a lot less than scientists expect and natural trends are probably a heck of a lot bigger than the team would like to admit.
You guys have been very patient with these links. After a year, it’s time to announce voting for the most extreme predictions of 2009.
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2010/01/12/time-to-vote-2009-most-extreme-predictions-round-1/
Kum Dollison (14:56:53) :
Even if the January anomaly finishes up a little that does not mean the earth is warming.
“”Will (15:31:23) :
The GC Models did not forecast cooling even up to the last second and probably still couldn’t account for it in hindsight.””
Will it was a little worse than that.
The models were still predicting warming, after the lag in warming and cooling had begun.
Even when it was obvious that temps were dropping, the models were still showing warming.
That was the travesty.
“”The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.””
Lack of warming is code for it’s getting cooler.
Steve Goddard (16:37:35) :
Apparently, Putin wants to be remembered for having been ahead of the curve. Good.
MrX, I am in Southwestern Ontario. It is -12 right now. Not exactly sitting outside temperatures. Even if it above freezing this weekend, it is still not sitting outside temperature. Nor is it going to be warm enough to turn the furnace off. Remember we have not had a summer for two years so my furnace has been running straight for close to 3 years.
And there the man stood, his pockets full of holes and nothing else; the sweat-stained unsold tickets drifting slowly from hands to feet.
He watched the last car turn and leave the stadium as the life left the lights above and the echoes from the streetlamps below bade them goodnight.
My question is this: how difficult is it to shift from anthropogenic global warming to anthropogenic global cooling? The leftists and conspiracy theorists will simply change the “W” to a “C,” and the insanity will continue.
I was pretty impressed with Cafferty’s piece on Congresses wasteful trip to Copenhagen.
Parts of Canada have seen actual temperatures of 30 below zero???
How much AGW kool-aid did these clowns drink? One of the first things I learned when Canada switched from Imperial to metric was -40C equals -40F and anything below -15C was chilly.
Human GHG emissions (mainly CO2) could not have been a climate forcing factor before c 1940.
http://photos.mongabay.com/09/0323co2emissions_global.jpg
The AGW hypothesis, as dreamt up in the early 1980s, before any significant post-war warming was apparent, is based on 20 years of warming c 1980 – c 2000 and, particularly in its catastrophist mode, is failing – maybe has failed.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp/mean:25/plot/hadcrut3vgl/mean:25/plot/uah/mean:25
crosspatch (18:54:15) :
Is today’s show available on video yet?
Adelaide and Melbourne down here have been having record breaking heatwaves. I’m wondering if that is linked to the same ocean cycle that is causing the cold winter up over?
The warming and cooling of the Oceans has been studied by people like Dr. Bill Gray from CSU Tropical Meteorology Project. This is nothing new. Active and non-active hurricane seasons occur with the warming or cooling of the Oceans.
Concerning your question on how this Winter has affected my belief in Global Warming?
It hasn’t changed my mind at all. There is no such thing as man made Global Warming.
We have been experiencing a normal fluctuation of the climate. We can not depend on data that is scattered across the face of the planet. Nor can we depend on data that is located in areas of rapid industrial development. But, this is the same type of data that has been used by the scientists that claim we were all doomed by man made Global warming.
Now, we’re expected to believe that Global Cooling is now going to be the issue. Next we’re all going to freeze to death if the governments of the planet do not act soon.
This winter is not unusual. We have had a number of planetary oscillations occur and have become favorable of deep arctic air to be mixed southward in the Northern Hemisphere. We’re experiencing a moderate El Nino, a positive Pacific Decadal Oscillation, as well as during the arctic outbreak a strong negative North Atlantic Oscillation. The positive PDO enhanced El Nino, while the negative NAO which normally brings colder temperatures southward into the Northern Hemisphere was enhanced due to the strong forcing of the NAO.
So there is nothing real about man made global warming or cooling. This is all made up by certain scientists and governments to remain in control and make money. It also keeps third world countries from developing their economies. This scares some governments. Why, I don’t know.
We need to speak out, let our governments know we’re not fools.
I am half a century old. I have seen winters like this, I have seen sweltering summers. I have experienced them and I have survived.
Problem with the warming we have seen, being it may have been warmer then the medival period of the 1400 – 1600’s. We could see a cooler period. As we did from the late 1960’s to the early 1990’s. That’s about 30 or so years isn’t it.
Sounds like a natural variation of the Earth’s climate and atmosphere to me.
What do you think?
Thanks Jack for expressing an interest in climate feedback.
I urge you to return to basics and read a 2009 paper in E&E on “Earth’s Heat Source- the Sun.”
With kind regards,
Oliver K. Manuel
Emeritus Professor
Nuclear & Space Science
Former NAA PI for Apollo
Photon, it’s not up a “little bit;” it’s up a Lot. And, a little snow in the Winter doesn’t mean the earth is “cooling.”
I just can’t stand inconsistency of thought. I would just like the players on “My” team to be a little smarter than the players on the other.
“The longer the sun remains quiet, the higher the chances of a prolonged series of cold winters and shorter summers. This is the quietest sun we have seen in almost a century. The current solar cycle, which began in 1996, was expected to reach a minimum and transition to a new solar cycle in January 2007, post 11 years. It did not, although we have crossed 13+ years and are still counting in January 2010. We are experiencing an historically deep solar minimum! For those who study the sun, the length of the solar cycle, lasting an average of 11 years, has proven to be the best historical indicator of short-term climate. At the end of these solar cycles, sunspot activity first declines, and then picks up markedly, typically indicating the beginning of a new cycle. However, the slow return to the next phase of the solar cycle at present may portend a general decline in solar activity. 2008 was a sunspot “bear market” and 2009 was no better according to NASA. There were no sunspots observed on 78% of the days in 2008. To find a year with more blank suns, we have to go all the way back to 1913. Sunspots for 2009 dropped even lower: there were no sunspots on 90% of the days by April. ”
New Solar Minimum Ushers In Extreme Cold Climate?
http://www.mi2g.com/cgi/mi2g/frameset.php?pageid=http%3A//www.mi2g.com/cgi/mi2g/press/120110.php
“A frozen northern world and new heat records in the southern hemisphere are suddenly making the impact of a deep solar minimum on the world’s weather a politically correct topic.
Yet a year ago I was attacked in Crikey by global warming experts for daring to suggest, in Crikey, that something odd was happening on the sun.
It should emphasised, science has not yet linked the big freeze to the “quietest sun” since 1913 but the historical coincidences between supposedly insignificant deep solar minimums and cold weather are under review and references to them as being factors in very cold winters are appearing in places where they were previously dismissed out of hand.”
Weather extremes equal the sun of their parts … or do they?
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/01/12/weather-extremes-equal-the-sun-of-their-parts-or-do-they/
Kum Dollison (19:46:40) :
Photon, it’s not up a “little bit;” it’s up a Lot. And, a little snow in the Winter doesn’t mean the earth is “cooling.”
I figured you’d say something along those lines.
It is a little snow? Have you checked the data?
It’s a little cold?
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Cooling since 2004:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_4ruQ7t4zrFA/Sy0GNXuxT1I/AAAAAAAADqY/90Z472zMWPg/uah-temperatures-1995-2009.JPG
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Do you have data that shows warming?
Also, January data is not in. It will be so warm this month as to wipe out all cooling since 2004?
We may not be on the same ‘team’.